We have a few problems here in Australia among the so called WN. First we have people trying to make martyrs out of people they claim have been jailed for offences they were not jailed for. We have people who claim Fred Toben was jailed for holohoax deniel when in fact he was jailed for contempt of court. To claim he was jailed for a crime that does not exist in Australia is pathetic. We also have 2 so called WN parties,neither of which are led by WN, hell, one of them Australia First Party is led by a half breed arab with an arabic surname named Jim Saleam. His supporters try to claim he is of Greek heritage. The other party is led by zionists who have no problem with race mixing. One of its leaders is in a relationship with a gook. Another went onto Jewish task force forum looking for allies in his fight against muslims. We also had the National Anarchists who tried to organise a trip to Laos to help gooks,they also took part in a pro tibetan rally and held up a sign saying we are all tibetans, they also spoke in favour of abo land rights.No member of any of these groups ever expressed interest in helping with White Pride Day rallys.

Yes there are problems with what some people are doing and the ways they are doing it.

You would have to think that a lot of these people do what they do for their own self-indulgent personal entertainment.

If we were clearer about what we want, it would be easier to dismiss those who have their own selfish personal agendas.

We need to step back and look at the policies Australia has at the moment and the reasons why they are there. Then we need to show a way that those of us who want to change things can best be political activists, whether as part of a lobby group, members of a separate political party, or as activists within the existing mainstream parties.

The existing mainstream parties are under the control of jews,no point joining them as both parties are pro israel. A White Nationalist lobby group would not work because the jews run the system and the group would be ignored. A real WN political party has a chance but needs to realise that the media and mainstream parties will be slinging mud from day one. It also needs a leader who has no baggage attached, nothing that will give the media ammunition to be used against the party.

The existing mainstream parties are under the control of jews,no point joining them as both parties are pro israel. A White Nationalist lobby group would not work because the jews run the system and the group would be ignored. A real WN political party has a chance but needs to realise that the media and mainstream parties will be slinging mud from day one. It also needs a leader who has no baggage attached, nothing that will give the media ammunition to be used against the party.

Yes both national Opposition and Government are pro-Israel. Obviously this is the result of jew activists. Did they achieve this as a lobby group or as members of these political parties? They didn't use the third option of a separate political party, so why should their actions be opposed by this method?

The jews got control by becoming members of the parties and using both lobby groups and the media to influence both politicians and the public.

If we are going to use politics then we need to start a new party. The public will never accept the APP or Aus First. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting a different result. Well that applies to both those parties. They think the public will accept them when in truth both parties are regarded as a fucking joke. More and more Aussies are realising the truth about lebos and yet the Aus First party thinks they will achieve victory by having a half breed lebo talk about White Nationalism, lol.

Yes there are problems with what some people are doing and the ways they are doing it.

You would have to think that a lot of these people do what they do for their own self-indulgent personal entertainment.

If we were clearer about what we want, it would be easier to dismiss those who have their own selfish personal agendas.

I am convinced that most so called WN groups in Australia at the moment are headed by those who only care about themselves. I have no faith in working with any of them as none have shown the slightest interest in actually doing things that help regain a White Australia Policy. Both APP and Aus First have been around for years and to this day its members are more concerned with sniping each other than doing anything. We have to start over from scratch and just dismiss the others as worthless relics. We dont need or want groups of internet warriors.

The jews got control by becoming members of the parties and using both lobby groups and the media to influence both politicians and the public.

There are some jews in all political parties, but their numbers are overestimated. There are only 2 jews in a national parliament of 150 House of Representatives seats, Danby and Frydenberg, one on each side.

The lobby groups on the other 148 members have had a far greater effect.

The jew media influence is not to be underestimated, but is it as great as the influence of lobby groups over elected politicians?

The media is owned by the jew, and although the jew only has 2 of its people in parliment, it has many more as members.

If we are going to use politics then we need to start a new party. The public will never accept the APP or Aus First. They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting a different result. Well that applies to both those parties. They think the public will accept them when in truth both parties are regarded as a fucking joke. More and more Aussies are realising the truth about lebos and yet the Aus First party thinks they will achieve victory by having a half breed lebo talk about White Nationalism, lol.

Anyone can see the problems with the two "parties" you have mentioned.

Political parties are not the only players in politics.

While political parties are very public and can be attacked and discredited publicly, lobby groups can defend themselves better. The jew lobby groups are especially good at defending themselves from criticism. White people can learn something from this.

What is to stop the personality problems that are evident in the parties you have mentioned appearing again in any new party?

The media is owned by the jew, and although the jew only has 2 of its people in parliment, it has many more as members.

Not all media is owned by the jew, just look at White Christian Zionist Rupert Murdoch. The jew influence over media should be measured and the causes found. Are the jew lobby groups again behind this?

Of course there are more than 2 jews as members of the political parties. We might find their membership is concentrated in small geographic pockets, like most of their population in the nation. Do you really think that if jews had the ability to pick their own as candidates for more seats they would not do this? They are obviously very weak across the geographic electorate based structure of the political parties.

Not all media is owned by the jew, just look at White Christian Zionist Rupert Murdoch.He may as well be a jew. We need to treat all zionists as race traitors to the White race.

Of course there are more than 2 jews as members of the political parties. We might find their membership is concentrated in small geographic pockets, like most of their population in the nation. Do you really think that if jews had the ability to pick their own as candidates for more seats they would not do this? They are obviously very weak across the geographic electorate based structure of the political parties.The jew controls the money in the parties, they sit at the top levels. Do you realy think that the branch is the only force in choosing who gets in the seat, wake up Darius

The jews prefer to be the power behind the throne rather than sit on the throne itself. That way they can avoid blame and being questioned by the public

What is to stop the personality problems that are evident in the parties you have mentioned appearing again in any new party?Pick the right people to be the public representatives and hope for the best. Dont allow idiots like VK.

The jew controls the money in the parties, they sit at the top levels. Do you realy think that the branch is the only force in choosing who gets in the seat, wake up Darius

There as a wretched jew Labor NSW Treasurer called Eric Roozendaal who pimps power stations for the Labor Party but how many of the other money positions are held by jews? Let's not make assumptions about how many jews there are in political parties until we actually know.

The ALP has union involvement in preselections, but how many unions are controlled by jews?

The Liberals have a structure where the great majority of local preselectors can outnumber the executive members many times over.

If you have seen jews in student politics they will exploit their position to take everything they can. The only reason Frydenberg was preselected by the Liberals in Victoria is because of the jew concentration of the local membership in one particular seat. Jews can not and could not do this anywhere else because there are not enough of them in these places at any one time.

White people joining the major political parties in most places in Australia would find very few jews, and become aware of many easily exploitable opportunities.

Why are you talking of the main parties, they are a lost cause. We will not gain anything by trying to take them over.Those parties bow to the jew. Forget them

Pick the right people to be the public representatives and hope for the best. Dont allow idiots like VK.

The only people who tend to step up for the leadership positions of these public political parties do so for the boost to their ego which it provides. Their actions are focused more on promoting themselves rather than the policy principles of their party.

You need people of deep principle who can see beyond themselves and their own actions to what their organisation is trying to achieve. Those that have this solid core are often not natural public performers.

The jews have many of these crazy narcissists and sociopaths amongst them, and find their efforts are more effective together for the cause as a lobby group.

Why are you talking of the main parties, they are a lost cause. We will not gain anything by trying to take them over.Those parties bow to the jew. Forget them

How do you know?

The fact that the jews have only 2 members of 150 in the House of Representatives shows they are inactive and very weak in the major political parties.

The jews did not take them over, and we not take them over either. We only need to apply political pressure where it counts.

Anyone who wants to waste their time playing with their own political party is more interested in themself than any White goals.

Yes I am aware of this. I know what jews are like,grew up in Melbourne. What does narricistic jews have to do with a WN party though?

Are you a fucking troll or just stupid. You have been here for 2 years and learnt nothing. If your not interested in helping regain the White Australia policy then why the fuck are you here

How do you know?

The fact that the jews have only 2 members of 150 in the House of Representatives shows they are inactive and very weak in the major political parties.

The jews did not take them over, and we not take them over either. We only need to apply political pressure where it counts.

Anyone who wants to waste their time playing with their own political party is more interested in themself than any White goals.Well I can see your just a troll, not interested in anything. If you realy believe that the jews are inactive and weak then your fucking crazy and know nothing. Your not a White Nationalist, fuck off

Yes I am aware of this. I know what jews are like,grew up in Melbourne. What does narricistic jews have to do with a WN party though?

Narcissism and sociopathy are not personality disorders exclusive to jews, although they are common traits amongst jews.

It is those White people with these disorders that cause the problems in White society and White political parties. One way to keep them in check is to remove the public spotlight that leadership of a political party provides and stay in the shadows as an agent of influence.

The jews have been more effective at minimising the damage of their personality misfits than the existing White parties.

Another problem is trolls like you that pretend to be WN then come out with shit about jews being weak and inactive in political parties.

Well I can see your just a troll, not interested in anything. If you realy believe that the jews are inactive and weak then your fucking crazy and know nothing. Your not a White Nationalist, fuck off

So after a few beers your intentions become apparent.

You want to lead your own pretend political party?

Very Sober troll,and I have no intention of leading a party as I dont believe I am the right person for it. Besides my past as a Klansman would give the jew media way to much ammo against the party. As VK or any other Aussie could tell you I have hep C...therefore I dont drink

Very Sober troll,and I have no intention of leading a party as I dont believe I am the right person for it. Besides my past as a Klansman would give the jew media way to much ammo against the party

The sort of people who like to dress up need to have their energies focused on the cause.

I don't care if you are a drunk or sober troll, the cause if bigger than you. You need to find a way of promoting the cause.

Before you even think of telling me what to do, how about you learn the truth about jews in Australian politics troll. I already promote the cause as a Klansman. I was trying to make people think of creating a new party as well. You on the other hand would rather just lie about jews in Aussie politics.

What do you do to promote the cause Darius, other than lie about jew involvement in politics...are you APP? sure sound like it

This is the other problem Aussie WN`s face. People like darius who refuse to believe jew involvement in our politics. These people come on WN forums and downplay jew involvement in the media and politics

Not APP or AFP, stop clutching at straws and debate the issues.

You state some facts about jew involvement in AUSTRALIAN politics, and I might be able to tell you how it relates to my real experience.

How can I debate the issue when you refuse to acknowledge the corruptive influence the jews have on our media and in our political parties. Both major political parties take advice from the jews. We must start again. No point wasting time trying to gain influence over the major parties, they have to much jew money in them

Liberal party is controlled by big business..that means jews..Are you a multi millionaire..if not then we dont have the money to spare to buy favours and influence in the Liberal party

Darius, have you ever met any Aussie WN..can anyone vouch for you?

Let's not give the jew as much power and influence as he tells us he has.

Don't buy the propaganda about the Liberals from Labor or about Labor from the Liberals.

Big business might give a lot of money to the head office of the ALP and the Liberals, but head office only has so much influence over the grassroots.

I meet White people who are nationalists every day where I live, which is a little further than from you.

The whole point of this discussion was to think about the options for our particular local situation, and I thank you for that.

You have no idea what your talking about darius. Your attempts to down play jew involvement in politics makes you suspect. Your comments on jew involvement in our politics sound as though they come from either a very naive person or a troll. Considering you have been here for 2 years,you are a troll

You have no idea what your talking about darius. Your attempts to down play jew involvement in politics makes you suspect. Your comments on jew involvement in our politics sound as though they come from either a very naive person or a troll. Considering you have been here for 2 years,you are a troll

You don't know what I know about jew involvement in Australian politics. It does exist.

What I am interested in doing is examining it and explaining it clearly. It is better to be able to say it is a monster that looks like a comodo dragon than saying it looks like the boogyman.

I am not playing it down, I am trying to get us to look at the shape of the beast, and then we might have an idea of what is required to slay it.

If you want to spend your life playing fantasy role playing games in useless little political parties that achieve absolutely nothing then that is up to you. I am interested in real action for a real clearly defined problem.

To be honest I aint that interested in politics. Nor do I play fantasy role playing games, I leave that to trolls like you. You have made it clear you are not interested in trying to achieve anything so why are you realy here

You don't know what I know about jew involvement in Australian politics. It does exist.

Then why not tell us what you know

Then why not tell us what you know

If you are not really interested in Australian politics then you are the one who looks like a troll.

Until you are interested in examining the real problem of jew influence in Australian politics, and are willing to do what it takes to confront it then you are not the person to discuss it with.

People who label themselves as WN rather than White people who are interested in promoting nationalism are putting themselves in a little box that is easy for the jew to limit and control.

If you and others get more out of being boxed WNs than being Whites who achieve something then you are not able to be part of the solution.

What you are saying is that you have such a limited potential that you prefer to look like a pork chop who dresses up and attracts negative attention, and that negative attention is worth more to you than achieving real progress and objectives that confront the jew.

I see you ignored the question I asked and decided to attack me instead. Once more darius... Tell us what you know about the jews

I see you ignored the question I asked and decided to attack me instead. Once more darius... Tell us what you know about the jews

Us? Like most of the people who call themselves WN in Australia you are on your own. You like it that way, and will not change.

You pick this little box because it gives you identity. Receiving negative attention from being in this little box builds your ego. You think that dressing up as "White" and being attacked for that makes you a good person. However fighting the good fight does not in itself achieve anything.

If that is your character flaw then you are determined to stay in a position which is useless to providing real opposition to the jew and their agents.

Keep doing your own thing and getting whatever you can out of it, and we will get on with the job.

Still avoiding the question,lol, also who do you mean by we.. when you say we will get on with the job

Still avoiding the question,lol

Why would you give plans and strategy for landing on the beach to someone who will never fight on the beach, but will only go and sit up in the lighthouse?

Most of the people who read this forum are only interested in finding their own lighthouse, rather than fighting and winning the battle on the beach and moving inland taking more territory.

Stop talking shit and just answer the question

The main problem with the "WN movement" (LOL!) in Australia is that it's basically a tiny number of isolated and irrelevant individuals, fighting among themselves and achieving absolutely nothing, apart from making themselves look like idiots. As this thread demonstrates...

No offence fellas, but it's the truth...

I've seen both of you going on about "making Australian WN look bad", e.g. whenever Frederick Toben's name comes up. What the hell do you think this thread does? It's almost as embarrassing as "Stormfront Downunder". Well at least they occasionally publicise anti-white crime, which is useful I guess, unlike this discussion, which is a complete joke...

The main problem with the "WN movement" (LOL!) in Australia is that it's basically a tiny number of isolated and irrelevant individuals, fighting among themselves and achieving absolutely nothing, apart from making themselves look like idiots. As this thread demonstrates...

No offence fellas, but it's the truth...

I've seen both of you going on about "making Australian WN look bad", e.g. whenever Frederick Toben's name comes up. What the hell do you think this thread does? It's almost as embarrassing as "Stormfront Downunder". Well at least they occasionally publicise anti-white crime, which is useful I guess, unlike this discussion, which is a complete joke...

Andrew, all this discussion is, is a druggie fighting a middle class liberal.

Andrew, all this discussion is, is a druggie fighting a middle class liberal.

You keep hypocritically bringing up this druggie business which does not relate to him, when it is you who is regularly drunk on this board, writing shameful commie drivel which just embarrasses you in different ways to when you are sober.

Last time you tried to call me a middle class Liberal, so which is it? Too dopey to know the difference.

Since the first post this Andrew has contributed very little, except to show us the personality disorder which is unfortunately too common in people who are desperate to assert themseles on the internet.

Since the first post this Andrew has contributed very little, except to show us the personality disorder which is unfortunately too common in people who are desperate to assert themseles on the internet.


Coming from you, this is absolutely hilarious. But it's also quite sad....

Do you know the meaning of the word "irony"?

Do you have something positive you would like to contribute Andrew? Do you have any ideas that might help create unity among Australian White Nationalists?

Do you have something positive you would like to contribute Andrew? Do you have any ideas that might help create unity among Australian White Nationalists?

Not really - you and Darius are doing a great job!

Onward to Victory!!

Andrew,instead of being a smart arse, do something totaly radical and come up with an idea that will help create unity. I notice your good at pointing out mistakes of others, now how about coming up with ideas that might work,or aren`t you interested in doing something worthwhile

Looks like chronic stormfart degenerates need an intensive deprogramming session to shock them into saying anything at all.

Looks like chronic stormfart degenerates need an intensive deprogramming session to shock them into saying anything at all.

Darius, this makes no sense. Think before you type. Try not to come across as a complete idiot, if at all possible. But maybe you just come on here to get into arguments with people. If so, you're doing well, carry on....

You were mocked so mercilessly at stormfart that you retreated here. Even if your screen names do identify you there is an interest in showing what a little feather you are.

You were mocked so mercilessly at stormfart that you retreated here. Even if your screen names do identify you there is an interest in showing what a little feather you are.

OK Darius - please show me where I was "mocked so mercilessly" on "Stormfront"?

Please provide proof of what you say.

You might find that a bit hard because I've never made one post on "Stormfront", and I've never even been a member of "Stormfront".

You really are an idiot...

I want to create unity among Australians but all I see is bullshit and internet warriors. Does not matter what forum I am on, never see any Aussie that actually wants to achieve real results.

I want to create unity among Australians but all I see is bullshit and internet warriors. Does not matter what forum I am on, never see any Aussie that actually wants to achieve real results.

The fact that it was andrew who took a big bite out of that one tells you all you need to know.





You couldn't discuss how you would achieve results publicly here AussieWN. Skype might be the way to send secure communications.

Maybe you should have a nice long Skype conversation with yourself, that way you might not get into an argument (then again you probably would, after about 5 minutes)....

I want to create unity among Australians but all I see is bullshit and internet warriors. Does not matter what forum I am on, never see any Aussie that actually wants to achieve real results.

Like running the KKK in a Australia helped by a Jew and injecting yourself down at the Slavation Army?

Like running the KKK in a Australia helped by a Jew and injecting yourself down at the Slavation Army?

Another stalinist night on the goon juice. The Russians numbed the everyday pain of communism with vodka.

Like running the KKK in a Australia helped by a Jew and injecting yourself down at the Slavation Army?You really do speak a lot of shit VK. The Aus First Party must be real proud having you as a member

You really do speak a lot of shit VK. The Aus First Party must be real proud having you as a member

The ALP doesn't allow membership of other political parties and neither does Australia First.

VK claims to have attended Warwick ALP branch meetings as a member.

He is lying about membership of one or the other, and probably both.

Well to be honest I cant imagine that Aus First would want anything to do with him and there are members who would recognise VK`s real name. As for him lying at being a member of one or both parties,lol..lying is second nature to him. If any Aus First member can tell us VK is lying then I would believe them.

Well to be honest I cant imagine that Aus First would want anything to do with him and there are members who would recognise VK`s real name. As for him lying at being a member of one or both parties,lol..lying is second nature to him. If any Aus First member can tell us VK is lying then I would believe them.

So much you claim but so little you know, druggie

What are you talking about retard. Your the one who knows nothing. You keep claiming a bloke with an arabic name is White. You have claimed to be a member of ALP and you have Aus First in your signature. Why dont you just tell the truth for once in your pathetic life.