Previously I posted the following in the "Concerned Alliance Member" thread:


[QUOTE=Fred Streed]In early August of 2003 Unholy Records was nothing more than a P.O. box in Marlington. There was a bank account in that name also but I think it contained like 2 or 3 hundred bucks. I think Dr. Pierce either got Unholy Records from Hendrick Moebus or they set it up together, I'm not sure which, but I think Hendrick Moebus figured in there somehow. It was just one of those projects that was in the planning stage but never got off the ground. Evidently Gliebe has pumped some money into it, I would like to know more about it.[/QUOTE]

In response I received an e-mail that said, in part, the following:

"Hendrik Möbus had nothing to do with Unholy Records and
was utterly opposed to this name. After all, our cause is holy
not unholy. He did want to start another record label with WLP,
but the purpose of it would be to put out "heathen" and "viking"
metal and have it distributed in mainstream channels. Therefore
there would be pro-North Europe stuff, but nothing overtly
political (no mention of gassing Jews or stringing up niggers).
He also was going to carefully avoid anything satanic or
nihilistic for this label as he was ideologically opposed to
that. Anyway, this label did not get off the ground before he
was arrested."

I was in error. The person who sent me this e-mail would know. I did not mean anything derogatory toward Hendrick Moebus. Hendrick is currently a political prisoner, locked up for thought crime, and if any WN is wrongfully imprisoned it is Mr. Moebus.

I am not sure how Unholy Records came to be. I suspect that Erich Gleibe had something to do with it. Erich has already proven that HE isn't ideologically opposed to ANYTHING if he thinks it will enrichen Erich Gliebe.

Fred,

If you get a chance, I'd like to contact you either on email or by phone. My email address is tmxt@bellsouth.net

Ron

Also if this is the right area, I'd like to find more information on the recent Dave Pringle statements.

[QUOTE=Fred Streed]I was in error. The person who sent me this e-mail would know. I did not mean anything derogatory toward Hendrick Moebus. Hendrick is currently a political prisoner, locked up for thought crime, and if any WN is wrongfully imprisoned it is Mr. Moebus.
[/QUOTE]

Moebus is a nutcase. He ended up in jail for the killing of a classmate. They first performed some satanist torture and then finished the job.
Only a fool would call HM a political prisoner. The NPD wants nothing to do with him.

By the by, his court case also revealed that he was a compulsive masturbator, that is, while watching horror movies.
Political prisoner, my ass!

Yeah, he is NOT a political prisoner. Murder tends to end ya up in jail, y'know.

[QUOTE=EuroKnight]Moebus is a nutcase. He ended up in jail for the killing of a classmate. They first performed some satanist torture and then finished the job.
Only a fool would call HM a political prisoner. The NPD wants nothing to do with him.

By the by, his court case also revealed that he was a compulsive masturbator, that is, while watching horror movies.
Political prisoner, my ass![/QUOTE]

By the by, his victim was WHITE. Some, like the NA, gave the impression that he was non-white by saying that he was killed for having an 'non-aryan attitude'.

Most translated "non aryan attitude" by non white. I think the NA knew very well that most would misunderstood it.

One ranting about how it all was ok was Alex Curtis. The "Lone Wolf" who got nicked for stupid juvenile pranks. And... is now out of jail, though he is under strict parole (ask GM was that means...) for a couple of years.

Ohhhh, okay. So he's just serving the mandatory German Nazi time? I think Germans must have the basic White guilt complex, except ten times worse than most other countries. Its really sad.

I also bet he's more hated for his racism than the fact he killed a peer...

[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]He is a scumbag indeed, but right now he is not serving for the murder. I believe he already served that sentence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EuroKnight]Moebus is a nutcase. He ended up in jail for the killing of a classmate. They first performed some satanist torture and then finished the job.
Only a fool would call HM a political prisoner. The NPD wants nothing to do with him.

By the by, his court case also revealed that he was a compulsive masturbator, that is, while watching horror movies.
Political prisoner, my ass![/QUOTE]

Moebus stayed at NAHQ for a time, couple months or so. I did not know him very well, he was a quiet guy and did not go out of his way to make friends. Based on the few conversations I had with him he seemed very intelligent and sincere in his beliefs. He seemed to be totally commited to a national socialist ideology. He was arrested and sent back to Germany to face imprisonment for political thought crimes, not for the murder he participated in as a 16 year old. The details can probably be found on the internet somewhere, I am not going to bother because I frankly don't really give a damn.

Perhaps you know something I don't. Perhaps he has renounced his former beliefs or something and I have not heard about it. But if you are going to engage in an argument over whether Hendrick Moebus was a good guy or not you are going to have to do it without me.

I was at NAHQ as Dr. Pierce's editor while Hendrick Moebus was working as a clerk in the warehouse handling Resistance orders. I also typed an account of his teenage involvement in a murder in Germany.

Moebus wasn't the killer, but he was a part of the gang that did the killing, and Moebus was sent to prison as an accessory. He was convicted under Germany's "youthful offender" laws, which roughly parallel similar laws in the United States. Crimes that an underage person commits don't count toward his adult criminal record - or, anyway, that's how it's legally supposed to be.

In prison, Moebus learned of the philosophy of National Socialism, and he began turning from his former fixation on death and Satanism toward a much more positive attitude toward life.

Hendrick Moebus served all the required time in prison for being an accessory to murder. It did not actually figure thereafter in Germany's efforts to re-jail him, later, in 2001. All the hoopla to the contrary in the media is merely so much Jewish obfuscation.

What happened is that Moebus was seen giving the "Hitler" salute (i.e., the Roman salute) at a concert. He became aware that reporters had noticed the salute and was worried that someone would get a warrant for his arrest for the crime of making a prohibited gesture with his arm. Before Germany could issue the warrant, Moebus obtained a visa and an airplane ticket and came legally to the United States. He was brought (possibly by Erich Gliebe) to NAHQ, where he became a clerk in the NA/NVB/Resistance warehouse.

Germany's government became angry that Moebus had evaded arrest for making prohibited arm gestures and asked the Clinton administration to extradite Moebus back to Germany. It was, in fact, illegal for the Clinton government to agree to do this, since the "crime" for which Moebus was wanted in Germany is regarded by US law as protected free speech.

In other words, the U.S. Government entered into a conspiracy with a foreign power to deprive a person of his rights under the U.S. Constitution. The same president who let it happen would later pardon a bunch of rich Jewish criminals (such as Marc Rich) as his last official act.

Further, when Moebus appealed for political asylum on the grounds that the "crime" under German law is in conflict with civil rights under American law, the judge used a bogus pretext to deny him sanctuary. The pretext was that Hendrick Moebus "is a criminal" and the U.S. never grants asylum to criminals.

Not only is that not true - the U.S. has frequently sheltered criminals - it also ignores the fact that the only known crime in Moebus past was a YOUTHFUL OFFENDER crime, which isn't supposed to count toward his adult criminal record.

So Hendrick Moebus got kicked around quite a lot. When the Federal Marshals served the warrant on skinny little Moebus in Lewisburg, they unnecessarily smashed his head on a steel car door frame and twisted his arm until it broke, all while jamming a pistol barrel into the side of his face.

Such polite cops we have.

Anyway, I don't know whether Hendrick Moebus gets more thrills from horror movies than other people do, but it probably doesn't matter. I think he was a White nationalist at heart and that he's as much a victim of ZOG abuse as Matt Hale, Chester Doles, Christine Greenwood, Pierpont of Panzerfaust or Artie Wheeler.

Jerry Abbott