I was wondering why Nicholas Griffin hasn't sued Martin Webster over his claims of having a homosexual affair with Nicholas ?

Anybody care to share views on why ?

[QUOTE=White Dragon]I was wondering why Nicholas Griffin hasn't sued Martin Webster over his claims of having a homosexual affair with Nicholas ?

Anybody care to share views on why ?[/QUOTE]

This one is 100% obvious. He is shit scared of losing, and its not just the money he would have to pay Martin Webster and the court costs, it is also the money he would lose being thrown out of nationalist politics for ever.

If he thought he had a cat in hells chance of winning he would sue, Webster inherited a fortune. One thing is true, Webster is NOT a man of straw. And he may be a poofter, but I have it on excellent authority from more than one source, that he is an honest poofter. Which is more than can be said for his ex bum chum Nick. :eek:

[QUOTE=White Dragon]I was wondering why Nicholas Griffin hasn't sued Martin Webster over his claims of having a homosexual affair with Nicholas ?

Anybody care to share views on why ?[/QUOTE]

Maybe that's the "Leverage" Tony wells has?

At one time Tony followed Gadaffi jr (oops I mean Griffin) everywhere (possibly as a sort of bodyguard) as weak worm Griffin would need a strong man around to protect him.

My view is, if anyone would know about a gay relationship between Griffin and whoever, I would expect Tony to known something about it!

[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]This one is 100% obvious. He is shit scared of losing, and its not just the money he would have to pay Martin Webster and the court costs, it is also the money he would lose being thrown out of nationalist politics for ever.

If he thought he had a cat in hells chance of winning he would sue, Webster inherited a fortune. One thing is true, Webster is NOT a man of straw. And he may be a poofter, but I have it on excellent authority from more than one source, that he is an honest poofter. Which is more than can be said for his ex bum chum Nick. :eek:[/QUOTE]

I never met Webster, before my time. I have heard that he was an up front queer, but could handle himself. So if there was a gay relationship between Griffin and Webster, I bet we can ALL guess who'd be taking it up the arse! :eek:

The ever changing Nick Griffin.

Is he a Suffolk boy or Welsh... Is he Gay or hetro.... Is he a revolutionary nationalist(ITP), a radical supporter of Islam(Official NF) - a hater of Islam(BNP), a Third Positionist, a friend to the Skinheads (white noise "rip-off"), a neo-con committed to ballotbox politics and the 'modernisation' of British Nationalism in a more inclusive way?

For me he has only shown one aim in every one of his various identities, the link that joins up all of the above is the desire to make money out of Nationalism and profit from Englands misfortune.

[QUOTE=White Dragon]I was wondering why Nicholas Griffin hasn't sued Martin Webster over his claims of having a homosexual affair with Nicholas ?

Anybody care to share views on why ?[/QUOTE]
Because it's true and webster isn't the only one.
Unfortunately his other boyfriend committed suicide or there would be another person to tell how NG likes it from behind.
griffin won't dare sue though, he knows the family and friends of his other boyfriend would go public if griffin started making up stories.
It's not just straw that griffin sucked in suffolk.

[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]If he thought he had a cat in hells chance of winning he would sue, Webster inherited a fortune.[/QUOTE]
Well, quite a bit. I believe that he spent the lot though. When He was kicked out of the NF, he ended up signing on.


One thing is true, Webster is NOT a man of straw. And he may be a poofter, but I have it on excellent authority from more than one source, that he is an honest poofter.
This is true. Of Webster it can be said that he is intelligent, articulate and well informed. He's direct and by no means a coward, either.

[QUOTE=STORMSOLDAAT]Maybe that's the "Leverage" Tony wells has?[/QUOTE]
Not so much Lecomber, as those behind him.

The state knows all that we know and more. A secret homosexual past, innumerable financial scams, Roberto Fiore ...

I amongst a few others, were at the Griffin household during the night before the 1979 NF AGM, at Great Yarmouth. The Griffin home, was a 16th Century cottage. A beautiful home somewhere near the Norfolk/Suffolk border, it was 'out in the sticks' .


Mr. Webster spent the evening upstairs , together with other young men ,with Mr. Griffin and others. They numbered about 6- 8 young men average age 16 - 18.

MW arrived after 11pm, and said he had been 'kicked out' of his digs at Caister on Sea due to him/ and they, turning up late.

Suffice to say, he was welcomed into the younger Griffin household. I have no reason to suggest that the Griffin family senior, knew anything about this.

Mr. Webster spent the evening upstairs , together with other young men ,with Mr. Griffin and others. They numbered about 6- 8 men.

I believe they paired off and played chess :eek:

I like your metaphors, but no.


I was naive in those days. I didn't know that MW was a poofter till about 1981.

Herr Griffin did :eek:

Martin Webster has his 'Electronic Loose Cannon' e-mail which [COLOR=Red]VNN Britain[/COLOR] intelligence gets. I want to know was Nick the receiver or the giver? Knowing Nicholas Griffin I'm sure Martin told him to "touch his toes" :D

Errrm, Mr Griffin took it up the bottom. :eek:

This has nothing to do with the job on hand. However, being as Mr. Griffin has stuck the knife into me on many occasions, why should I show him , and many others in the BNP, loyalty ?





Many are going to see what loyalty really means. Come'on folks like MT (who have slagged my family off again, in spite of a tragedy. You are 'calling' my family again. Bloody hero ! Just check the criminal convictions of YOUR family first, before you call me or mine. I would put my family's service record along with ANY family. Put up or shut up !) and all the rest.

[QUOTE=heaven above]Errrm, Mr Griffin took it up the bottom. :eek:

This has nothing to do with the job on hand. However, being as Mr. Griffin has stuck the knife iinto me on many occasions, why should I show him , and many others in the BNP loyalty ?[/QUOTE]

His supporters always say he can't be a hom because he is a married man with 4 children ?

A Job In hand is worth a bang up the butt ?

Even famed poofter OSCAR WILDE had kids.

So is Griffin half as poofterish as Oscar Wilde ?

As I say, it's not an issue with me.

I just don't want to put my willy up another blokes bottom. It does not turn me on.

Being a scumbag and 'selling us out' IS a major issue for real nationalists.

Mr. Griffin looses on both counts.

Any experienced police officer will tell you that the vast majority of homosexuals are married. The wives only usually find out when they get a call from the station asking them to come down there because their husband has been arrested.

Of course, at first, they assume it's because he's been picked up because he was drunk ...

[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]he may be a poofter, but I have it on excellent authority from more than one source, that he is an honest poofter. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Hmmmm. So not all 'poofters' are bad.......that's an interesting about face!

check:-

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/62104letters.htm


where you will find Martin Webster's CV, containing:-

"* In December 1983 I was ousted from the NF by a coup perpetrated by people (including Nick Griffin, who 16 years later was to become Chairman of the BNP). Within four years the NF divided into factions and disintegrated. Since that time I have not not joined any other political organisation, but maintain contact with a nation-wide and world-wide circle of friends.

* In 1985 I set up in business as a typesetter, graphic designer and writer.

* In 1992 my services were retained by the late Dowager Lady Jane Birdwood, Editor of Choice, and I wrote and typeset every issue for her until she died in 1998.

* From 1999 onwards my political output is conveyed by the Internet in two occasional e-bulletins: Electronic Loose Cannon which comments on nationalist movements and personalities in Britain and abroad; and Electronic Watch on Zion, whose title explains its purpose. These are issued via martin.webstir@virgin.net.

I also publish occasional printed leaflets on topics of interest to Nationalists.

[END] "

As soon as Nick Griffin becomes BNP chairman Martin Webster Starts publishing "Electronic Loose Cannon". Having been an employee he suddenly becomes self-employed.


Hmmm.....

New Loki ?

I see you are a relative newcomer to the movement.

Webster has been unable to gain real employment since he was sacked by the NF Directorate around 1984. They used the homosexual card against him. Now, when we see that Pat Harrington, Ian Anderson and maybe even Mr. Griffin himself were indulging in this behaviour, and who also expelled Webster from the NF, what are we to make of this ? WTF !


People are supposed to admit their own prejudices/proclivities/advantages, of making a certain decision happen. The above were certainly guilty of hiding their own sexual behaviours, and using that card to dis-credit Webster. They outed him.


Webster met with Tony Lecomber at a Witherspoons pub in North London around 1998. They wanted 'dirt' on John Tyndall for Nick Griffins challenge for the BNP leadership. Lecomber almost dropped his pint when Webster said that he and Nick Griffin had been 'lovers'.

That was not the info that Lecomber wanted to hear, or maybe it was !

Lecomber has used it to his advantage ever since, with Griffin.

After many years someone had rattled Websters cage. Griffin had supported, in a limited way, the bomber Copeland . Webster went ape !

This is why Webster was re-awakened.

You can't defend this 'shirt lifter'... what ever his politics, he deserves a 'Pink Triangle' and placed in a camp!!

It's not a case of defending a poofter.

It's about the sheer hypocrisy of people like Nick Griffin. Homosexuality is a bane. But Brighton WNP made a rational comment.

This does not make him, or me, a pro- shirtlifter.

I happen to know that 'Brighton' has an house full of young kids. More power to his elbow.

I regard him as a friend. We have met on more than one occasion.

[QUOTE=heaven above]It's not a case of defending a poofter.

It's about the sheer hypocrisy of people like Nick Griffin. Homosexuality is a bane. But Brighton WNP made a rational comment.

This does not make him, or me, a pro- shirtlifter.

I happen to know that 'Brighton' has an house full of young kids. More power to his elbow.

I regard him as a friend. We have met on more than one occasion.[/QUOTE]

Yes indeed I agree. However if it wasn't for the dickheads on the NF National Directorate not following John Tyndall's words of expelling this homo, then maybe the NF would have people elected now.

I'm of the view that we needed a name change, as the NF was in the eyes of the British people (wrongly) viewed with violence.

The BNP was the right choice, it still is the right choice, we need to win our party back.....And we will !