Unfuckingbelievable. Gliebe decides to defend himself...on an anti-racist site!

http://citizensagainsthate.com/site/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=224&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

CLAIM: Shaun Walker cut Erich Gliebe a check in the amount of $10,000 for a new car. Erich, instead of buying a $10,000 car bought a new Jeep V-8 with leather seats, sun roof, the works. This car cost $40,000 which the Alliance is now paying for. The Jeep is reported to already have 81,000 miles on the speedometer. It was also asserted that numerous members in the Cleveland Unit dropped membership because of this.

QUESTION: Apparently, more than a few members consider a $40,000 automobile a little extravagant. It has long been said that the NA was the wealthiest of all. Is it still that way? Is it losing money? Where is the organization, financially, in comparison with where it was at Dr. Pierce's death?

GLIEBE'S RESPONSE: "I bought my Jeep with my own money and a trade-in and took out a loan, on which I am making monthly payments with my money. Prior to the purchase of this vehicle, I drove nothing but beaters for years. In fact, the September '91 issue of GQ poked fun at my old '92 Pontiac Sunbird, which was way too small for my 6'4" frame. The Jeep does NOT have leather seats and 31,000 miles on it.


Um....in 1991 he was driving a 1992 and it was criticized as being "old"? That 92 would have been next years model back in '91.

Either he is full of shit or brain damaged.

QUESTION: In a time when many of you are striving to gain mainstream status and mainstream attention, you cannot blame those for disagreeing with what they consider to be immoral. How do you justify the calendar charges or the Satanic music? There have been dozens of statements made about your lack of initiative and action on numerous promised projects. Is that because of lack of money or an oversight on your part?

GLIEBE'S RESPONSE: Resistance is not interested in carrying any Satanic music, but we do sell a lot of Pagan Metal.

Ari Gliebowitz (aka The Easterbunny) obviously has no idea what the HELL is going on at Resistance...OR, he's lying. This image is from the latest RESIST! List. RESIST! List (http://www.resistance.com/Resistlist/Resistlist.htm)

http://www.resistance.com/Resistlist/Images/loc.jpg

I don't have any direct knowledge about Gliebe's Jeep purchase, so I can't say with certainty whether he bought it with NA money and tried to get away without reimbursing the National Alliance, or whether he bought it with a loan that he took out prior to agreeing to buy the Jeep.

If Gliebe can show proof that he took out a bank loan prior to the Jeep purchase, or else a loan from an independent third-party which can document that the loan was made prior to the Jeep purchase, then Gliebe would be cleared of suspicion.

However, if Gliebe "borrowed" money from the NA, then the idea that this money was a "loan" may be of recent manufacture. There would remain a suspicion that Gliebe tried to steal a lot of money from the National Alliance, but got caught, and now hopes to deflect criminal charges.

Again, I don't know what the truth of this matter is, and I have made no allegations in this regard. I'm merely pointing out that Gliebe's response to the anti-racists was worded as an equivocation, leaving him room to hedge on exactly what he meant.

I am surprised that the "Citizens Against Hate" reporter (Nicole Nichols) failed to ask Gliebe about his takeover of the National Alliance by illegally removing his codirectors from the corporate records with the Virginia State Corporation Commission. I wonder why they didn't ask that?

Jerry Abbott

I have read how he Illegally he removed his codirectors. Okay so why do you codirectors not pursue this and do something legally about it.

[QUOTE=TonyClametti]I have read how he Illegally he removed his codirectors. Okay so why do you codirectors not pursue this and do something legally about it.[/QUOTE]
I think they've answered this question before. By the way, I was not one of the original NA directors. The original board was Kitti Molz, Fred Streed, Erich Gliebe and Dr. Bob DeMarais.

Jerry Abbott

[QUOTE=Ben Vinyard]Unfuckingbelievable. Gliebe decides to defend himself...on an anti-racist site!
[/QUOTE]

CLAIM: Erich Gliebe and Shaun Walker have caused at least 20 key staff people to leave the National Alliance.

QUESTION: In watching the reports of the various people jumping ship since your tenure, I tend to believe this claim. To what do you attribute this exodus?

GLIEBE"S RESPONSE: Membership is not down and I would have to say that the overall quality of our membership is probably at its highest peak ever.

Is Gliebe capable of giving a straight answer to anything, ever?

Granting an interview with an "anti-racist" site instead of at least going onto a WN website to answer your critics is to say the least a very bad case of judgement. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Draco]CLAIM:

GLIEBE'S RESPONSE: "I bought my Jeep with my own money and a trade-in and took out a loan, on which I am making monthly payments with my money. Prior to the purchase of this vehicle, I drove nothing but beaters for years. In fact, the September '91 issue of GQ poked fun at my old '92 Pontiac Sunbird, which was way too small for my 6'4" frame. The Jeep does NOT have leather seats and 31,000 miles on it.


Um....in 1991 he was driving a 1992 and it was criticized as being "old"? That 92 would have been next years model back in '91.

Either he is full of shit or brain damaged.[/QUOTE]

I seem to remember the GQ interview coming out around 2001.

[QUOTE=Ben Vinyard]Unfuckingbelievable. Gliebe decides to defend himself...on an anti-racist site!

http://citizensagainsthate.com/site/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=224&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0[/QUOTE]

As each of us carefully reads that interview between Gliebe and his anit-racist pals, we should as , "Did he answer the question fully." He dodged almost every question.

[QUOTE=Little Colleen]I seem to remember the GQ interview coming out around 2001.[/QUOTE]So, I guess that means we're going wtih "brain damaged".

How pathetic is Nicole Nichols who has lifted all this crap off vnnforum without a single attribution. "eye on hate" is nothing more than a recycling of vnn content and it has been such going on a year or more.

Does it feel good to these feckless "antis" that their whole "jouralistic" existence is nothing more than a rehashing of VNN content with a few "naught naughties" appended?

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]How pathetic is Nicole Nichols who has lifted all this crap off vnnforum without a single attribution. "eye on hate" is nothing more than a recycling of vnn content and it has been such going on a year or more.

Does it feel good to these feckless "antis" that their whole "jouralistic" existence is nothing more than a rehashing of VNN content with a few "naught naughties" appended?[/QUOTE]
Here is the attribution. About one-third of the way down she links to the actual email that she says came from Erich Gliebe. She put it back in a question-and-answer format. Presumable she sent him questions. The answers would not make sense without the questions. And she listed the questions that he refused to answer at the end. You can find her link it by searching her article for the word "entirety." Or you can just hit the link just below.

http://citizensagainsthate.com/eg.html
[QUOTE=Erich Gliebe alleged e-mail to Nicole Nichols]
Daer Nicole,

I would say use Shaun Walker's complete post, as it sums up the situation in a nutshell. I can, however, refute a few of the ridiculous accusations.

First of all, since 1990 (when I joined the NA), I averaged spending $100 a week on Alliance activities. All in all, I've easily spent over $100,000 of my own money on NA recruiting and activities over the years. And I have quite a few receipts to back up my claims. Also, in the late '90s, an elderly member of the Cleveland Local Unit told me he was going to leave me his entire estate which was valued at $150,000, but I told him to leave it all to the National Alliance instead, which he did. Now I could have really used that money at the time, but have always thought the Cause to be of much greater importance than myself. I'm probably one of the few people who would put spending money on the Cause before buying food for myself.

Facts:
- Resistance Records has absolutely no record deal with someone called "King Kuumba."

- Resistance is not interested in carrying any Satanic music, but we do sell a lot of Pagan Metal.

- As for a member being behind on dues, Dr. Pierce would drop everybody who was six months behind, no exceptions. We currently do not do this and always take into consideration a member's financial situation if we are aware they are having difficulties paying dues.

- I bought my Jeep with my own money and a trade-in and took out a loan, on which I am making monthly payments with my money. Prior to the purchase of this vehicle, I drove nothing but beaters for years. In fact, the September '91 issue of GQ poked fun at my old '92 Pontiac Sunbird, which was way to0 small for my 6'4" frame. The Jeep does NOT have leather seats and 31,000 miles on it.

- Despite becoming Chairman in July 2002, I refused to give myself a pay raise for quite some time, despite the fact I was only earning $27,000 a year, which is not a lot of a CEO of any corporation. I also have to pay my own health insurance out of my salary.

- Duke NEVER told me to go to hell and Mr. Kelso was NOT roughed up at the Leadership Conference and, in comparison, I'm treated a lot worse at airports.

- Membership is not down and I would have to say that the overall quality of our membership is probably at its highest peak ever.

- Shaun Walker and I are in no way living a comfortable lifestyle. Shaun sleeps in his small office most of the time. Also if you take a look at my trim waistline, I think you can see I'm not living "high off the hog."

- As for firing employees for poor performance or bad behavior, some of Dr. Pierce's final words to me were, "Don't be afraid to be ruthless."

- As for women, I'm quite happy with the relationship I am currently in and am interested in settling down and having a family. I have never been married and thus have had to answer to no one, although the same can't be said for some of the hypocrites who attack me.

- It doesn't matter if Pringle has ever talked to the authorities, because threatening to do so unless I gave him money is just as bad.

- As for the Arizona meeting, I roomed with Shaun Walker and not a woman.

- I do NOT go to strip clubs. Only a sucker would pay for a "lap dance." I am also one of the few people I know who has NEVER looked at a porn Web site, not even once in my life.

- I have NEVER been charged or even questioned about "child molestation," and have never had to hire an attorney for any such thing. However, I feel that a person falsely accusing someone of such a hideous act should face the same penalties of a person convicted of such a crime.

- As for the term "six-shooter," I think the innovator of that has a big imagination and little facts. How the hell can one man keep six women happy? I am quite happy with my girlfriend and am not interested in anyone else.

- Resistance is not a quarterly magazine; we publish when we can.

- By the way, I dumped around $20,000 of my own money into Resistance Records when I first started managing the company and I have all the receipts to prove it. The company was in such bad shape at the time, that the only way to put out the magazine was to give the company a financial boost myself. I even took out a loan to pay for the entire recording costs of the band Wolfheart when they were recording their "Return of the Past" album.

- It's actually quite humorous that some of my detractors are chronically unemployed or receive government assistance. All I need ask, when was the last time David Pringle held a job in the real world? How about Will Williams or David Wayne Sims (a.k.a. Jerry Abbott)? It must be nice to have all day to play on the Internet and slander people.

Sincerely,

Erich Gliebe [/QUOTE]

youre right I see she does say "vnnforum" on there.

I also see this Shaun Walker person sort of halfassedly threatens VNN with a slander suit. That is a joke. VNN meaning Alex Linder is not responsible for any defamatatory statements uttered by his forum participants under current law, plain and simple.

http://citizensagainsthate.com/eg2.html

Plus, such statements made would only be defamatory if untrue. I personally, speaking only for myself, am pretty convinced that these allegations about the current NA leadership are not defamatory but true.

Of coure, if Skippy wants to sue Alex, then Alex will be able to himself use the tools of civil discovery to prove the truth of the allegations for all to see. And assuredly, he would. That is, provided the suit wasnt summarily dismissed because he is not liable for defamatory statements made by forum participants. Which is certainly the law. What's more is that I seriously doubt any jury will be giving NA any damages whatsoever for injury to its "reputation."

So, we wont be seeing any defamation suit filed by this character against VNN any time soon, is my prediction. LOL

I guess this comment by "Nicole" about sums it up for the antiracists where the NA is concerned:

"However it all ends up, we can relax in the knowledge that what was once the premiere hate group has been rendered ineffective, at least for the time being. And, if all of the pieces fall into place, as they very well might, there is a very good possibility that one more hate group will bite the dust

--Nicole Nichols"

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]I guess this comment by "Nicole" about sums it up for the antiracists where the NA is concerned:

"However it all ends up, we can relax in the knowledge that what was once the premiere hate group has been rendered ineffective, at least for the time being. And, if all of the pieces fall into place, as they very well might, there is a very good possibility that one more hate group will bite the dust
--Nicole Nichols"[/QUOTE]
Anti-racists often fail to think carefully. Racists won't disappear just because a racist group does. The tendency for White nationalists to hang on to "name brand" organizations, despite any amount of exposed corruption, is a problem that would be remedied by the collapse of the NA. Though neither Gliebe nor the Citizens Against Hate might know it, the "new" NA's inefficiency, its laxitude of morals, it's abandonment of Dr. Pierce's ideology, and its wish to become "mainstream" have pulled its teeth; the very last thing the Jews should want is the final demise of the Gliebe NA.

Jerry Abbott

I could have died when I read this part:
CLAIM: It is alleged that when Gliebe and Walker went to visit the Arizona Unit, where trouble had been brewing, Gliebe kept the members waiting two and one half ours while he holed up in his room with his girlfriend getting ready for the meeting. Reportedly, the meeting was a disaster.

QUESTION: Uh…Erich, is this an accurate characterization of what took place?

GLIEBE"S RESPONSE: As for the Arizona meeting, I roomed with Shaun Walker and not a woman.

So, the next question should be... Is GoGoNaziGirl really Shaun Walker in Drag????

Apparently not concerned with his mind-boggling lack of judgment in granting an exclusive interview to Citizens Against Hate, Gliebe has yet again used this unconventional White Nationalist vehicle to answer charges. (He’s a strategist, you know.) In the latest update the clairvoyant Gliebe speaks to Dr. Pierce from beyond the grave.

http://citizensagainsthate.com/site/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=224&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Dear Nikki,

Sorry for not replying sooner, but I've been on-the-road the past couple of days and haven't had access to a computer.

Dr. Pierce once told me that nobody was to ever be buried on the property, including himself (he was cremated and his ashes scattered on the property). If we allowed our property to be used as a public cemetary, then that would probably open up the door to anyone (including those who hate us) who would want to enter the property at anytime to visit the grave site. I did, however, tell Fred Streed to cut an NA check for $1,000 to give to the Hartnell's for the burial of their child in a real cemetary.

Sincerely,

Erich

Gliebe’s good friend, Nicole, has now become the more familiar Nikki. I was privy to the phone conversation in Billy Roper’s office when Lawrence Myers called Gliebe in an effort to persuade him to do the correct thing. Though Gliebe’s end of the conversation was mumbled, just like in real life, there was never once any mention made of Dr. Pierce’s orders—orders apparently known only to Gliebe and not even to Dr. Pierce’s best friends, advisors or Board of Directors. Instead, there was a great deal of talk about the video game created by Bob Hawthorne called Cleansing Erich. Myers end of the conversation repeatedly stated, “You need to grow a thicker skin.” This would leave me to believe there was absolutely no consideration of orders that Dr. Pierce gave Gliebe (since there was no mention of it at that time) but rather an act of vicious, petty vindictiveness. The only check issued that day was a blank check from Fred Streed’s personal account, an act that would seem to be unnecessary if he was directed to cut an NA check for $1000.

If Dr. Pierce could speak from beyond the grave, without a doubt his first words would be, “Gliebe, you’re fired.”

Ben Vinyard

[QUOTE=Originally Posted by Erich Gliebe in his email to Nicole Nichols of Citizens Against Hate] Despite becoming Chairman in July 2002, I refused to [COLOR=Indigo]give myself a pay raise[/COLOR] for quite some time, despite the fact I [COLOR=DarkRed]was[/COLOR] only earning $27,000 a year, which is not a lot of a CEO of any corporation. I also have to pay my own health insurance out of my salary. [/QUOTE]
This is typical of Gliebe's vague and misleading answers.

First, unless the corporate bylaws specifically allow it, a Chairman cannot give himself a raise, even he thinks that he the new Hitler. Maybe Gliebe couldn’t convince the board of directors to give him a raise, or maybe he was waiting until he put his own board of directors in.

Also notice is says he was making $27,000 per year. Looks like an admission that he did give himself a big raise. Rumor has it that the raise was equal to or greater than his new SUV payment and just happened to occur when he bought the SUV. Looks very much like the NA members may be playing for the car through a pay raise to Gliebe.

Another interesting thing:

In Gliebe's first email to Nicole Nichols, he addressed her as
Dear Nicole,

In Gliebe's second email to Nicole Nichols, he addressed her as
Dear Nikki,

Why did Gliebe change from her formal name to a "familiar" or nick name? How did he know to switch, unless he talked her on the phone? Was he trying to schmooze or has he some other interest is this leftie?

Gliebe refused to give a straight answer to a single goddamned question. And what the hell is he doing even dealing with our avowed enemies. I found one of Dear Nikki's comments especially interesting. She stated:

"As it stands, it appears that a lot of the heavyweights of the racist right are gathering to take aim at the Aryan Barbarian. We can only speculate as to what all of this means and where it will end up. Is the National Alliance going under? One can only hope. But, looking ahead…who will emerge as the victor? Sometimes it is wise to be careful what we ask for."

That sure sounds to me as if she realizes that ANYONE who replaces Gliebe will probably do a better job. From our enemies perspective it would be damned hard to find a chairman more to their liking than Gliebe, and "Dear Nikki" knows it.

Can we really trust someone whose list of friends include "Dear Nikki" of Citizens Against Hate, "Elizabeth, one of Erich's Jewish friends", "King Kumba" the nigger, the degenerates who are the band "Anal Cunt", and who knows what else? And then there was Gliebe's mentor, proven FBI informant and SPLC mole Lawrence Meyers. SHOULD Gliebe be trusted?

[QUOTE=Jenab]Anti-racists often fail to think carefully. Racists won't disappear just because a racist group does. The tendency for White nationalists to hang on to "name brand" organizations, despite any amount of exposed corruption, is a problem that would be remedied by the collapse of the NA. Though neither Gliebe nor the Citizens Against Hate might know it, the "new" NA's inefficiency, its laxitude of morals, it's abandonment of Dr. Pierce's ideology, and its wish to become "mainstream" have pulled its teeth; the very last thing the Jews should want is the final demise of the Gliebe NA.

Jerry Abbott[/QUOTE]

You're right, of course, Jerry. I don't have time to read all about Gliebe's latest efforts at damage control -- I'm too busy doing real world work. But I see here that you and I are lumped with Mr. Pringle as a big problem to the Aryan Barbarian in an interview he granted to some anti-racist???

Gliebe wrote:
"It's actually quite humorous that some of my detractors are chronically unemployed or receive government assistance. All I need ask, when was the last time David Pringle held a job in the real world? How about Will Williams or David Wayne Sims (a.k.a. Jerry Abbott)? It must be nice to have all day to play on the Internet and slander people."

That Punchy the time clock puncher puts such a premium on employability in revolutionists IS humorous, isn't it? I'm proud that the only employers I've had since 1974 have been Ben Klassen and William Pierce. That's the sort of resume I have and the employable wage slave working stiffs who don't like it can kiss my lily white butt. People who haven't figured out how to get by in life without being dependent on "the Man" should be careful criticizing those who have, eh, Jerry?

Pink Nikki didn't buy the Aryan Barbarian's written defensive denials any more than all the NA members who have voted with their feet have. Why in the world would Gliebe grant such an interview in the first place?

[quote=EG]- I do NOT go to strip clubs. Only a sucker would pay for a "lap dance." I am also one of the few people I know who has NEVER looked at a porn Web site, not even once in my life.
[/quote]

Biggest. Lie. Ever.

Anyone who buys that, well come see me, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.

Dazed and confused, Gliebe continues his friendly dialogue with Nikki and the good folks at Citizens Against Hate, praising them in almost glowing terms:

http://citizensagainsthate.com/site/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=224&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Erich - thanks for the response - and I can understand that. What is really interesting is that they are crediting Streed with the $1,000 for the casket - and so far, he hasn't said anything different. Also...how is Kevin Strom holding up through all of this? It is being heavily rumored that he is moving toward the Duke camp. It is also being rumored that Erika is going to take over Resistance Records. (Like I said, "rumored." They are flying every which way!)
Nikki

GLIEBE'S RESPONSE

Nikki Of course they will try to credit Fred Streed with the $1,000. They'll try to take a swipe at me every chance they get. Fred, of course, is mad at me because I fired him. The fact remains, I told Fred to write a $1,000 check to the Hartnell family.

Kevin is doing fine and I'm sure he will always be a valuable part of the National Alliance. It's no secret, however, that our enemies will always try their "divide and conquer" routine. They'll try to pit one member of an organization against another, causing dissension from within.

No, Erika will not be taking over Resistance Records. I would, however, prefer to have less involvement with the record company and spend more time building and organizing the Alliance.

Rumors will always be flying around in fringe politics, so I appreciate the fact that you are really interested in getting the story straight rather than relying on rumors. A couple of people have criticized me for answering your questions, but I always prefer to speak with someone who's honest with me, despite them perhaps having opposing viewpoints.

Erich

[QUOTE=White Will]You're right, of course, Jerry. I don't have time to read all about Gliebe's latest efforts at damage control -- I'm too busy doing real world work. But I see here that you and I are lumped with Mr. Pringle as a big problem to the Aryan Barbarian in an interview he granted to some anti-racist???

Gliebe wrote:
"It's actually quite humorous that some of my detractors are chronically unemployed or receive government assistance. All I need ask, when was the last time David Pringle held a job in the real world? How about Will Williams or David Wayne Sims (a.k.a. Jerry Abbott)? It must be nice to have all day to play on the Internet and slander people."

That Punchy the time clock puncher puts such a premium on employability in revolutionists IS humorous, isn't it? I'm proud that the only employers I've had since 1974 have been Ben Klassen and William Pierce. That's the sort of resume I have and the employable wage slave working stiffs who don't like it can kiss my lily white butt. People who haven't figured out how to get by in life without being dependent on "the Man" should be careful criticizing those who have, eh, Jerry?

Pink Nikki didn't buy the Aryan Barbarian's written defensive denials any more than all the NA members who have voted with their feet have. Why in the world would Gliebe grant such an interview in the first place?[/QUOTE]


So I guess what he means that working for the NA isn't working in the "real world." If that's the case Gliebe has been away from the lathe a lot longer than I have been away from the diesel shop.

[QUOTE=Ben Vinyard]

GLIEBE'S RESPONSE

Nikki Of course they will try to credit Fred Streed with the $1,000. They'll try to take a swipe at me every chance they get. Fred, of course, is mad at me because I fired him. The fact remains, I told Fred to write a $1,000 check to the Hartnell family.[/QUOTE]


At that time I was not writing checks for the NA. My name wasn't on any of the bank accounts and I could not have written an NA check even if Gleebo had asked me too, which he didn't.

[QUOTE=Ben Vinyard](quote from Gliebe)
Rumors will always be flying around in fringe politics, so I appreciate the fact that you are really interested in getting the story straight rather than relying on rumors. A couple of people have criticized me for answering your questions, but I always prefer to speak with someone who's honest with me, despite them perhaps having opposing viewpoints.

Erich[/QUOTE]

Jeezus H. Keerist, what next? I can see the SPLC headlines now.

LEADER OF WORLD'S FOREMOST HATE GROUP RENOUNCES RACISM!
ERICH J. GLEEBEE ANNOUNCES MERGER OF NATIONAL ALLIANCE WITH CITIZENS AGAINST HATE!


Guess ol' Gleeber must not have any friends left in White Nationalist circles if he has to resort to scum like this in order to tell his side of the story. Yeah, I'm just REALLY impressed that Dear Nikki is so interested in getting the story straight, so honest and caring and all, not like them nazi lunatics on the political fringe.

[QUOTE=Fred Streed]At that time I was not writing checks for the NA. My name wasn't on any of the bank accounts and I could not have written an NA check even if Gleebo had asked me too, which he didn't.[/QUOTE]


The problem with being a perpetual liar like Gliebe is constructing an alternate time-line. Why would Gliebe ask Mr. Streed to write a check for $1000 when every National Alliance member knows that Mr. Streed didn't take over the accounting duties until over a year later? I'll repeat that for the sake of the jury. Why would Gliebe ask Mr. Streed to write a check for $1000 when every National Alliance member knows that Mr. Streed didn't take over the accounting duties until over a year later?

Gliebe: "The fact remains, I told Fred to write a $1,000 check to the Hartnell family."


Oops, Erich, your pants are down again. Looks like you got your time-line confused. Maybe you could write another nice letter to Nikki and the gang at Citizens Against Hate and re-phrase your answer.

Ben Vinyard

Not knowing Mr Gleebe personally, I find it hard to believe that he would give an interview to such an outfit like this in the first place. Is he dropping all pretense of being a valid leader of a pro-White group or what? Did you catch the comment where he calls WN "fringe politics?" Sounds like freakin Anarchy Bill!

For the fact of giving this interview alone he should be ousted by the membership. Whatever remains.

[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2]
Can you imagine Dr. Pierce doing this? [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

No. I remeber his only interview being one that was on national tv, prime time, during the OKC thing. he spoke well and I considered it worthwhile.

Gleebe has enhanced this outfit's credibility considerably by his actions and thus harmed the cause of WN. He is a sucker.

Nicole, who has reported much on these circles, has scored a coup. Maybe she is good looking eh? That would explain much.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]No. I remeber his only interview being one that was on national tv, prime time, during the OKC thing. he spoke well and I considered it worthwhile. Gleebe has enhanced this outfit's credibility considerably by his actions and thus harmed the cause of WN. He is a sucker. Nicole, who has reported much on these circles, has scored a coup. Maybe she is good looking eh? That would explain much.[/QUOTE]
What Dr. Pierce did was different. When he was allowed to speak in Zionist media venues, he spoke about Jewish influence, non-White criminality, White nationhood aspirations, and suchlike issues. My guess is that Nicole is hoping that one of us will step up to bat against Gliebe on CAH's website. That way she would induce a WN catfight in an anti-racist forum, which would amuse the Jews to no end.

Hi Will. I play on the Internet, sure - who doesn't? I also use the Internet to help young astronomy students with their celestial mechanics homework. But I've never slandered Gliebe as far as I know. I've tried to be careful to limit my remarks about him to what I know to be factual, and, otherwise, to label reasonable speculation as such, rather than asserting it as fact.

I've noticed a tendency from some of his (other) opponents to claim to find too much culpability from limited or unclear evidence, which I wish we'd stop doing. Such as alleging that the Resistance cover art with Lynx and Lamb is kiddie porn, when it certainly is no such thing. There's no need for that kind of exaggerating, and we should avoid it because in the long run it tends to cost us credibility, which Gliebe and Walker could use against us when we discuss their genuinely immoral or unlawful deeds.

For the past four years, I've been steadily building a homestead that will one day be self-sustaining, with me never needing to leave home for any reason. I hope to make my own food, collect my own water, maintain my own shelter, gather my own firewood, all without having to travel more than a half mile in any direction. I'm not there yet, and I won't be until my orchard starts dropping apples and walnuts, and my annual crops of potatoes, (open pollenated) field peas and triticale are bearing in reliable abundance. But that's where I'm headed.

And as far as working for someone else goes, the someone else is Dr. Bob. I proofread Thunderbolt for him just as I once did proofreading for Dr. Pierce. Gliebe chooses which facts he will acknowledge and which facts he will not, according to how it fits the deception he hopes to put across.

Jerry Abbott

http://resistance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32_66&products_id=1213&osCsid=e709cef0d2af44c5a4d6ba488bb0e480
Thunderbolt - Burning Deed Of Deceit

"Resistance is not interested in carrying Satanic music"

Oh really?????

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Thunderbolt - Burning Deed Of Deceit

"Resistance is not interested in carrying Satanic music"

Oh really?????[/QUOTE]
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Some Lyrics from first song:
We were spawned by Satan's wrath
Born to drown the Earth in blood
Rape the angels in the embraces of death
Son of god must be crucified again

Sodomize the holy whore
Spit in the face of cruel hoax
Destroy all who oppose us
Crush the worshippers of merciful bastard

Die with your religion

Let the demons gather
... Blood will flow
Let the dragoon swallow the world
...Blood will flow
Slay the whole world to sacrifice

Lucifer will laugh at your pity religion

Sodomize the holy whore
Spit in the face of cruel hoax
Praise the beast in the underworld
Sworn the unwritten oath

...Black dawn comes

Erich told our UC he got a $10,000 "bonus" which he used as a down payment on his Jeep Grand Cherokee. My question is, who pays for the gas that his Jeep guzzles? I wonder how much he spends on gas each year driving to visit all his girlfriends and his long commute?
I'm sure he never uses a NA expense account for the trips to meet his girlfriends. No, he's much to honest for that.

[QUOTE=kenb1946]Erich told our UC he got a $10,000 "bonus" which he used as a down payment on his Jeep Grand Cherokee. My question is, who pays for the gas that his Jeep guzzles? I wonder how much he spends on gas each year driving to visit all his girlfriends and his long commute?
I'm sure he never uses a NA expense account for the trips to meet his girlfriends. No, he's much to honest for that.[/QUOTE]

A 10k bonus! FOR WHAT?!!!! He hasn't attained a single goal he set for 2004, has printed one less issue of Resistance Magazine a year since he took over and had ten members attend his last Cleveland Unit meeting. The guy is a total failure! If he was a Jew I'd say he had a lot of Chuztpah.

10k bonus, 10k loan, 10k advancement to offset his expenses-- all would be different things in accounting terms wouldnt they?

I wonder which one is it? LOL

Do you really now? You seem to have an amazing memory.

[QUOTE=Little Colleen]I seem to remember the GQ interview coming out around 2001.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=David_Pringle]So I guess what he means that working for the NA isn't working in the "real world." If that's the case Gliebe has been away from the lathe a lot longer than I have been away from the diesel shop.[/QUOTE]

I noticed this too. A real racialist has thought ideologically at least long enough to be immune to this "glamour" type of thinking. I suppose that a movie star in the "real world" who draws a million dollar "cheque" for a "contract" is suppose to be more honorable than someone who chops their own wood, plants and harvests their own food, and butchers their own livestock ? Hmm. Wait though. Isn't THAT the "real world" ? The movie star's world is wholly artificial by comparison isn't it?

[QUOTE=Ron Stevens]Do you really now? You seem to have an amazing memory.[/QUOTE]

Umm.... Ya I guess I do, I bought the issue when it came out as I do with all mainstream mags that feature racialists.

[QUOTE=White Dragon]Granting an interview with an "anti-racist" site instead of at least going onto a WN website to answer your critics is to say the least a very bad case of judgement. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Gliebe's defense has been to say that he didn't know who Nicole Nicole's was when he gave the interview. Gliebe told this to April Gaede, and she posted it on that secret forum on Stormfront. That prompted this award-winning post from Pringle. [QUOTE= April Gaede 12-01-2004] I just got off the phone with Chairman Gliebe and we talked specifically about the supposed "interview" with the Nicole person.

Mr. Gliebe explained to me that he never met with her and that the entire contact consisted of him answering an email that was sent to him in which certain questions were asked and he answered. I guess we members should have emailed him our questions too instead of speculating. From what I understand Chairman Gliebe didn’t give the interview with the intention that it be an "interview" she just cut and pasted the two emails to make it appear that way on her website. He told me the list of questions she had was very long and he answered just a few of them.

As far as the questions that some have asked as to why he refers to her as "Nikki" in one email. I bet he does what I often do and just addresses the email to the person in the same either formal or informal way they signed their name on their last email. "Nikki" and the Chairman are not on a friendly basis and he just knew that she had identified herself as a "reporter". From what I understand she did not make it clear that she was reporting for an anti racist site.

This answered a lot of my questions; I hope that it answered some of yours too.
April Gaede[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dave Pringle 12-01-2004]April, the Chairman is lying. Flat out, lying. In fact, here, Erich Gliebe is actually caught lying about lying about his lies. Seriously.

Now, Fenris, as Gliebe’s defense lawyer, you are always demanding “evidence” every time I make a statement here. I would like to briefly present my case.

If I may approach, your honor:

Exhibit A - Gliebe knew full well that Nicole Nichols was a “reporter” with the Jewish-controlled “anti-racist” site, Citizens Against Hate, when he did the interview. He commented about the CAH “profile” on him last year at a Cleveland unit meeting. Furthermore, Gliebe exchanged emails with Nicole Nichols of CAH more than 10 WEEKS AGO when he demanded a retraction over a CAH article regarding an NA connection with a Bronx man who was recently arrested.

(A now-expired link deleted)

Notice the date and the name of the author. Note also that in the UPDATE section, Nicole Nichols states that “in an email received from Erich Gliebe....”

So you see, April, Erich was, in fact, lying to you when he claimed, “I thought she was just a reporter. I didn’t know she was with an anti-racist site.” Tell us, April, did the Chairman start to cry again as he explained how he has been unfairly maligned over this matter?

I withdraw the question.

Exhibit B: The CAH article Chairman Gliebe demanded a retraction over is in reference to Thomas Zibelli. More than two months ago, Gliebe convinced his friend “Nikki” to refrain from connecting Zibelli to the NA.

And clever Nikki played along with the “highly intelligent” chairman. But why?

SNIP

“Nikki” took Gliebe’s word for it, ran the retraction as he asked, and, clever little Jew girl that she is, subsequently set the idiot up for the exclusive email interview that became the topic for this and several other threads on the World Wide Web.

Fenris, your witness. [/QUOTE] As of yesterday (December 11) Gliebe was still doing the emial interview bit with Nicole Nichols. :rolleyes: Gliebe must think his remaining members are stupid.

Well Ive never been a member of the NA, and I am certainly not going to with this clown at the helm. I rarely visit VNNForum because this place seems to mostly be a bitch board. At the same time, Im disgusted with the censorship at Stormfront (courtesy of JohnGayTree)...

I heard on an ADV program that Gleibe is the son of an SS soldier and obviously none of his father rubbed off on him.

Who are these Eyeonhate morons? Their websites are more full of fluff and flashy graphics than substance. Looks like something I would expect from one of these conmen who set up a stupid website with the ulterior motive of scamming for donations.

I was disappointed to see their MSN whining section is so outdated. I was hoping to see myself on some of them. True to a so-called "enlightened" organization, they seem to have placed censorship high on their priority list. That's always funny. People who squeal about images of burning books in Spielberg movies are the first to line up to force their opponents into silence. Oh bra-vo.

Is it just me or have they not found anyone who is a "hater" and not white?

[QUOTE=Lagergeld]I rarely visit VNNForum because this place seems to mostly be a bitch board. At the same time, Im disgusted with the censorship at Stormfront (courtesy of JohnGayTree)...

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Bitch board you say? How so? Do you mean we take exception to the fact that the White race is well on its way to extinction and that we believe the jew himself is behind it all? Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying. If so, please elaborate.

btw - I'm in total agreement with your sentiments on the censorship at Stormfront. I left of my own accord just about this time a year ago for precisely that reason -- after lasting exactly one week on that "pro-White" board.