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Hal Turner
12-01-2004, 03:01 PM
According to Public Records obtained by The Hal Turner Show, Aryan Nations New Jerey State Leader, James Mazzone, who was arrested for selling cocaine in 2002, knew (from the legal Discovery Process) that his cellular telephone was tapped by law enforcement. A court ORDER, obtained by HTS via the Freedom Of Information Act, shows that many taped conversations obtained by police wiretaps, were to be admitted into evidence in his trial. Despite knowing his phone was tapped, Mazzone continued to use that phone for confidential Aryan Nations business - and his other endeavors - and did not reveal that fact to anyone.

Mazzone knew his phone calls were being taped by law enforcement yet he cooperated with them by failing to reveal this fact. If you have spoken to James Mazzone about anything in the past four years, chances are excellent that law enforcement has a tape recording of it.

One apparent result of his "cooperation" seems to be he will serve LESS jail time for his THIRD drug dealing offense, than he did for his first! Prosecutors have offered him a Ten (10) year jail sentence, but according to public records, he will be eligible for Parole after only serving FIVE years. That's five years for a THIRD offense!

Many of us, myself included, trusted this guy. I truly believed he was my firend. It appears we have ALL been severely betrayed.
This may explain why the ADL an Southern Poverty Law Center do not mention Mazzone on their web sites and why it took
more than two years for this case to be handled. The cops apparently left him free to work for them.

Complete Details available at: Hal Turner Show (http://www.HalTurnerShow.com)

PSC
12-01-2004, 03:34 PM
Hal is whining about Mazzone but it was Mazzone who was Hal's cocaine dealer when Hal was snorting coke while doing his talk show. The One People's Project years ago exposed Mazzone as being the man whom Turner bought his cocaine from.

Hal is crying because Mazzone is probably going to tell law enforcement about Hal buying illegal drugs from him. Especially now that Hal is stabbing him in the back knowing he is in jail right now.


http://www.google.com/search?q=mazzone%20%22hal%20turner%22

PSC
12-01-2004, 03:37 PM
or it was Hal who was the informant (long, long rumored) and Hal was the one who set up Mazzone. Like he has done with several others.

Hal Turner
12-01-2004, 03:42 PM
[QUOTE=PSC]Hal is whining about Mazzone but it was Mazzone who was Hal's cocaine dealer when Hal was snorting coke while doing his talk show. The One People's Project years ago exposed Mazzone as being the man whom Turner bought his cocaine from.

Hal is crying because Mazzone is probably going to tell law enforcement about Hal buying illegal drugs from him. Especially now that Hal is stabbing him in the back knowing he is in jail right now.


http://www.google.com/search?q=mazzone%20%22hal%20turner%22[/QUOTE]


I never snorted cocaine during my radio show. No one can ever say otherwise. The One People's Project said they THOUGHT my health troubles might be related to drugs, but they were wrong.

Even if I did buy drugs from Mazzone and/or even if he did tell law enforcement such a thing, I could not be prosecuted because there is no evidence.

In order to prosecute someone for a crime, there must be evidence; actual or circumstantial. In this case, there is neither.

As for me stabbing Mazzone in the back "while he's in jail right now" again, you're wrong. He is still out on bail until his sentencing on Janaury 7.

I published what I published because like me, a lot of people trusted James and it appears our trust has been totally betrayed.

Hal Turner

Hal Turner
12-01-2004, 03:44 PM
[QUOTE=PSC]or it was Hal who was the informant (long, long rumored) and Hal was the one who set up Mazzone. Like he has done with several others.[/QUOTE]

This is good stuff. How about naming names. Who did I allegedly "set up?" What's the proof?

As for me setting-up Mazzone, the twelve count indictment (http://www.halturnershow.com/MazzoneIndictment.html) proves he sold drugs to undercover police officers. Cops. Not confidential informants working with cops. Cops themselves.

So let's hear who I set-up. C'mon big mouth, name names.

MidnightSun
12-01-2004, 04:01 PM
I WOULD NOT TRUST anyone who is CI, or anyone who talks like Fade, JJT, ErikD, Prozak, Gabrielle, etc., or anyone that is high up in any of the older groups like AN or NA or "Creativity" movement. Past performance is an indicator.

WN needs a good purge.

PSC
12-01-2004, 04:03 PM
Some evidence directly from VNN Forum itself. Shows Hal knew full well that Mazzone was a drug dealer and that Hal was the one running to the cops.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=44002#post44002

Shows Hal Turner not only was an informant to the police but that James Mazzone was with him in the next door. Hal knew full well that Mazzone was a drug dealer and now is only acting surprised.

The evidence shows it was Hal who probably set up Mazzone and Hal is really upset now that Mazzone might have stuff on Turner.

PSC
12-01-2004, 04:04 PM
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=44002#post44002

In that link, scroll down to #58
Hal mentions about running to the cops and running his mouth to them.

So much for the five words Hal keeps telling others to say to the police.

Hal Turner
12-01-2004, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=PSC]http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=44002#post44002

In that link, scroll down to #58
Hal mentions about running to the cops and running his mouth to them.

So much for the five words Hal keeps telling others to say to the police.[/QUOTE]


The cops CALLED ME and INVITED ME to a meeting about the security they were planning. They weren't asking me questions about a crime or any investigation. They wanted to go over their intentions to protect MY house and MY family from an ARA/One People's Project Protest.

With such savages threatening to protest in front of my house, was I supposed to NOT go? Should I have ignored their efforts?

In fact, I took James mazzone WITH ME to that meeting.

You really are a coplete asshole. Now everyone can see that for themselves.

PSC
12-01-2004, 04:35 PM
You knew James Mazzone was a drug dealer when you took him to talk to the cops. A real nationalist would have told the cops "I have nothing to say". Instead, you told them about your weapons and tons of other information right in front of the cops and the One People's Project. You shit on your pants when they called and didn't have the guts to do what you tell others to do.

You expect any of us to believe you just found out Mazzone was a drug dealer?
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=44002#post44002
Proves you wrong.

Anyone who would trust you would be a fool. Seems everyone who associates with you ends up in trouble except for you.

Now go have another fake heart attack, fake aryan invasion, or invent another fake disease you claim you are suffering from and pray for forgivness from your hispanic preacher and wife. And if you do a show again, don't sniff coke while on the air. It was so obvious that was why you were sniffing all the time.

Hal Turner
12-01-2004, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=PSC]You knew James Mazzone was a drug dealer when you took him to talk to the cops. A real nationalist would have told the cops "I have nothing to say". Instead, you told them about your weapons and tons of other information right in front of the cops and the One People's Project. You shit on your pants when they called and didn't have the guts to do what you tell others to do.

You expect any of us to believe you just found out Mazzone was a drug dealer?
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=44002#post44002
Proves you to be lying.

Anyone who would trust you would be a fool. Seems everyone who associates with you ends up in trouble except for you.

Now go have another fake heart attack, fake aryan invasion, or invent another fake disease you claim you are suffering from and pray for forgivness from your hispanic preacher and wife. And if you do a show again, don't sniff coke while on the air. It was so obvious that was why you were sniffing all the time.[/QUOTE]

"When I took him to the cops?" What did I do, kidnap him? Do you think he didn't know where we were going? For Christ's sake, when I told him what I was doing, he ASKED if he could come.

Oh, and about my weapons, under New Jersey law, the local cops have copies of my pistol purchase permits. They already knew I owned guns. They knew what type, how many, the make, model and serial number. It was no secret to them. So again, your stupidity is shown.

For the record, yes. I knew what James did. I kept my mouth shut about it.
When he was arrested, it was not a surprise to me. He even told me about it.
None of that was a problem. I remained his friend.

But now that I - and everyone else - sees what has transpired with James, it is totally clear to anyone with a brain, why he got off so easily. And his situation has terrible implications for me and others who trusted him.

It means we mayall be in legal jeopardy for some of our pro-white activities. Remember, the FBI collects intelligence on our activities. Look who they got it from: a guy we all trusted.

THAT is the point of my article. THAT is the point of this thread.

My wife is Italian. My preacher is Father Victor Kennedy, he's Irish -- and he can't stand my beliefs. We do not have a good relationship but he tolerates me in church and I tolerate him.

You wrote: "Seems everyone who associates with you ends up in trouble except for you" Who? Who ever got in trouble for associating with me? name names or shut up.


Once again, your facts are all wrong. Your efforts to find fault with me for exposing an informant have fallen flat on their face.

Antiochus Epiphanes
12-01-2004, 04:54 PM
I generally mistrust men with really long hair. that would have been enough to keep me away from this wierd looking mazzone character to begin with.

PSC
12-01-2004, 05:11 PM
[QUOTE=Colonel.Kurtz][SIZE=2] Remaining "friends" with a known cocaine dealer belies your unbounded stupidity, Hal. You deserve whatever comes from Mazzone's troubles. [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Bullseye!!!!!

Cocaine Hal knew this man was poisoning white children & adults with drugs and Cocaine Hal was his best friend! I can't find a single news story on this Mazzone conviction but Cocaine Hal sure is upset about it. Probably because Mazzone has the goods on Cocaine Hal.

VONBLUVENS
12-01-2004, 11:41 PM
Hal Turner as far as I can tell is a decent human being. I hope Hal learned his lesson about hanging out with those criminals that use WN as a cover. I had a love-hate relationship with him over the years but discovered he is a true patriot.

Hal, I sent you a letter to do an interview on my show. Have you given it any thought?

Paul Drake
12-02-2004, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=MidnightSun]I WOULD NOT TRUST anyone who is CI, or anyone who talks like Fade, JJT, ErikD, Prozak, Gabrielle, etc., or anyone that is high up in any of the older groups like AN or NA or "Creativity" movement. Past performance is an indicator.

WN needs a good purge.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better. Add hal turner and von levin; my sentiments EXACTLY!

heaven above
12-02-2004, 12:09 AM
WTF !

I listened to the Hal Turner radio things. If the posts are true, WTF.


I thought we were in a shit state in Europe. :(

MidnightSun
12-02-2004, 03:32 PM
[QUOTE=Rounder]Arrests of WNs for drugs is a whole other ball of wax. And any WN witnessing any WN leader taking drugs or dealing in drugs, ought to turn his ass in to the cops anyway. That's not informing. That's not ratting. That's justice.[/QUOTE]

No, that's not right. I don't use any illegal drugs, but turning in fellow WN for taking drugs is just plain stupid. I don't think I can be a part of anything that promotes views like this. If you call that "justice" then what's next? Ratting them out for [insert any number of activities here]? Count me out. :(

hitler goddess
12-02-2004, 03:48 PM
[QUOTE=MidnightSun]No, that's not right. I don't use any illegal drugs, but turning in fellow WN for taking drugs is just plain stupid. I don't think I can be a part of anything that promotes views like this. If you call that "justice" then what's next? Ratting them out for [insert any number of activities here]? Count me out. :([/QUOTE]


I think it depends on the type of drug we are talking about. I don't know if I would turn anyone in, but I certainly wouldn't wish to be associated with someone who was using meth, heroin, cocaine, etc. It is just a very negative scene all the way around, and whether you were using it or not, it would create negative influences in your life. If this person was dealing drugs to other white people, then I would not hesitate to turn them in.

I would feel quite different about something like Marijuana, however. Aside from it being illegal, I don't see ANY difference between marijuana and alcohol.

MidnightSun
12-02-2004, 04:09 PM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]I think it depends on the type of drug we are talking about. I don't know if I would turn anyone in, but I certainly wouldn't wish to be associated with someone who was using meth, heroin, cocaine, etc. It is just a very negative scene all the way around, and whether you were using it or not, it would create negative influences in your life. If this person was dealing drugs to other white people, then I would not hesitate to turn them in.

I would feel quite different about something like Marijuana, however. Aside from it being illegal, I don't see ANY difference between marijuana and alcohol.[/QUOTE]

Many of the greatest leaders and most influential persons in history were drug users. You talk about "negative scenes" but I fail to see anything positive about the modern world. If someone was out of control I probably try to help him out but I wouldn't ever consider turning him in to the feds unless I thought that he was an informer or infiltrator or weak leader.

hitler goddess
12-02-2004, 04:12 PM
[QUOTE=MidnightSun]Many of the greatest leaders and most influential persons in history were drug users. You talk about "negative scenes" but I fail to see anything positive about the modern world. If someone was out of control I probably try to help him out but I wouldn't ever consider turning him in to the feds unless [COLOR=Red]I thought that he was an informer or infiltrator or weak leader.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]


I would not turn a drug USER in either, but when you talk about "weak leaders", don't you think that if this person was a meth freak, or a junkie that would make them a weak leader? It certainly makes them a weak person.

MidnightSun
12-02-2004, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=hitler goddess]I would not turn a drug USER in either, but when you talk about "weak leaders", don't you think that if this person was a meth freak, or a junkie that would make them a weak leader? It certainly makes them a weak person.[/QUOTE]

I don't know, was Hitler weak? This is all case by case. I don't judge all persons the same.