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RickHolland
July 22nd, 2011, 06:00 PM
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http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/deruntermensch.html

(Translated from the rare original SS picture book "Der Untermensch")


"As long as there are men on the earth, the struggle between man and subhuman will be the historical rule; this Jewish-led struggle against the folks, as far back as we can look, belongs to the natural course of life on our planet. One can safely be convinced that this struggle for life and death is just as much a law of nature as the struggle of an infection against a healthy body."

Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 1935


Just like night rises against day, just like light and shadow are eternally hostile – so is the greatest enemy of world-dominating man, man himself.

The subhuman – that biologically apparently same shaped creation of nature with hands, feet and a kind of brain, with eyes and mouth, is nonetheless a totally different, a terrible creature, is only an approximation of man, with human-like facial features – spiritually, psychologically, however, standing lower than any animal. Inside this being a chaos of wild, uninhibited passions: nameless will to destruction, most primitive desires, most undisguised baseness.

Subhuman – nothing else!

For not everything with a human face is equal.

Woe to whomever forgets that!

Whatever this earth possesses in great works, ideas and arts – man has conceived, created and perfected it; he reflected and invented, for him there was only one goal: to work his way upward into a higher existence, to shape the inadequate, to replace the insufficient with something better.

So developed culture.

So developed the plough, the tool, the house.

So did man become social, so developed family, so developed folk, so developed state. So did man become good and great. So did he rise far above all living beings.

So did he become second to God!

But the subhuman also lived. He hated the work of the other. He raged against it, secretly as thief, openly as slanderer – as murderer. He associated with his own kind.

The beast called the beast.

Never did the subhuman give peace, never did he give rest. For he needed the half-dark, chaos.

He shunned the light of cultural progress.

He needed for self-preservation the swamp, hell, but not the sun.

And this underworld of subhumans found its leader: the eternal Jew!

He understood them, he knew what they wanted. He fed their most base lusts and desires, he let the terror come over humanity.

It began in the historical time of the annihilation of the Persians, the Purim Fest, the first glorification of organized mass murder. 75,000 Aryan Persians fell victim to Jewish hatred. Even today, Jewry celebrates this deed of horror as its greatest "religious" holiday.

Eternal is the hatred of the subhuman against the light figures, the carriers of light. Eternally does the decline of the west threaten from the deserts.

Eternally do the powers of destruction gather together in the distant steppe, do Attila and Jenghiz Khan mass their hun hordes and race across Europe, leaving behind a living apocalypse, fire and death, rape, murder and terror, so that the world of light and thousand-fold knowledge, the powers of progress and human greatness, sink back into the abyss of primeval condition.

Eternal is the subhuman’s desire:

That it again becomes desert, where the light of sublime knowledge creatively illuminates the darkness, then his final goal would be achieved, chaos.

So does the struggle of both opposites happen for millennia in accordance to terrible, incalculable laws; again and again there is an Attila, a Jenghiz Khan, who rips open Europe’s gate, who knows only one thing: the total destruction of everything beautiful!

The embodiment of this will for destruction is today called Bolshevism! But this Bolshevism is not a manifestation of our time. It is not a product of our days! It is also nothing new in the framework of human history. Rather it is as old as the Jew himself. His pioneers are named Lenin – Stalin.


"The leading minds in a folk are butchered, and then it comes into governmental, economical, cultural, spiritual, psychological and bodily slavery. The rest of the folk, robbed of its own value through countless blood mixtures – becomes deformed – and in the historically short course of centuries one knows at best that such a folk had once existed."

Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 1935

http://www.od43.com/SS-Der_Untermensch_1942.html

Hadding
October 21st, 2011, 01:15 AM
I am not sure that subhuman is really the best word to translate Untermensch. The German word menschlich doesn't just mean human; it means humane or decent. Untermenschlich therefore means less than humane, less than decent. When Hitler says in Mein Kampf that the Jews of Vienna had taken on a menschlich appearance, he doesn't mean that they had learned how to hide their lizard-tails: he means that they had learned to present themselves in a civil manner. This is a kind of problem in translation that feeds the caricature of Hitler and company as crazy people.

Note that the term Untermensch as used in this SS booklet does not -- contrary to a widespread misconception -- designate any racial or ethnic group (other than Jews, who mobilize the Untermensch for their own purposes). If the translation had included captions of photos, this would have been emphasized, for example with the photos of starving Russian children and Russian women whose husbands are in prison. Russians were victims of the Untermensch because they were living under Communism.

Alfred Rosenberg called the Untermensch "the scum that is present in every people, which through envy and high treason seizes power." What he's describing is the riffraff that forms the constituency for Marxism.

"Subhuman," however, as applied to some of the lower types of our own race, without any further explanation, seems a bit crazy. If the word subhuman is to be used as a translation for Untermensch, it should be made clear that what is meant is an inhuman character in some people rather than a subhuman racial type.

Lothrop Stoddard used the word Underman, and I prefer that.

Maxfield Parrish
October 21st, 2011, 10:57 AM
Hadding: Does the word Untermenschlich also apply universally to negroids, Mexicans, Chinese, Arabs, and Japanese?

If not - why not?

Hadding
October 21st, 2011, 11:38 AM
Hadding: Does the word Untermenschlich also apply universally to negroids, Mexicans, Chinese, Arabs, and Japanese?

If not - why not?

That's my point. It's not a racial designation.

We in the United States are attracted to the assumption that it's a racial designation because of our Negro problem, but it's not how the German National-Socialists used the word.

In any race the number of the worse types will increase if no care is taken. This is something that has to be addressed with racial hygiene.

They might very well say that some peoples have a higher proportion of Untermenschen than others.

Jimmy Marr
October 21st, 2011, 02:25 PM
I'm struggling with what appears to be a contradiction:

We're mistaken to characterize our crisis as a racial dilemma, but the requisite solution will come in the form of a program of racial hygiene?

Karl Lueger
October 21st, 2011, 06:11 PM
The subhuman – that biologically apparently same shaped creation of nature with hands, feet and a kind of brain, with eyes and mouth, is nonetheless a totally different, a terrible creature, is only an approximation of man, with human-like facial features – spiritually, psychologically, however, standing lower than any animal. Inside this being a chaos of wild, uninhibited passions: nameless will to destruction, most primitive desires, most undisguised baseness.

Subhuman – nothing else!

For not everything with a human face is equal.

Woe to whomever forgets that!



OK, thats certainly true,
treating any zhyd or shitskin like a Human is proof of insanity.

"Jews, racially are monsters, flunked hybrids, who have to disappear.
Everything they fiddle, everything they scheme is cursed."_

Jew-vermin are nation wreckers. WHITE MEN created the nations they wreck.

"Just like a potato beetle destroys potatoes, the Jew destroys nations and peoples.
There is only one solution: to deal radically with the danger" -

RickHolland
October 21st, 2011, 07:59 PM
I am not sure that subhuman is really the best word to translate Untermensch. The German word menschlich doesn't just mean human; it means humane or decent. Untermenschlich therefore means less than humane, less than decent. When Hitler says in Mein Kampf that the Jews of Vienna had taken on a menschlich appearance, he doesn't mean that they had learned how to hide their lizard-tails: he means that they had learned to present themselves in a civil manner. This a kind of problem in translation that feeds the caricature of Hitler and company as crazy people.

Note that the term Untermensch as used in this SS booklet does not -- contrary to a widespread misconception -- designate any racial or ethnic group (other than Jews, who mobilize the Untermensch for their own purposes). If the translation had included captions of photos, this would have been emphasized, for example with the photos of starving Russian children and Russian women whose husbands are in prison. Russians were victims of the Untermensch because they were living under Communism.

Alfred Rosenberg called the Untermensch "the scum that is present in every people, which through envy and high treason seizes power." What he's describing is the riffraff that forms the constituency for Marxism.

"Subhuman," however, as applied to some of the lower types of our own race, without any further explanation, seems a bit crazy. If the word subhuman is to be used as a translation for Untermensch, it should be made clear that what is meant is an inhuman character in some people rather than a subhuman racial type.

Lothrop Stoddard used the word Underman, and I prefer that.

Underman would be a better translation than subhuman?

Hadding
October 21st, 2011, 08:16 PM
Underman would be a better translation than subhuman?
Superficially the Latin-derived word subhuman looks as if it should mean the same as Untermensch, but it does not. An Untermensch in NSDAP usage does not mean somebody taxonomically outside of the human species. It does not even necessarily mean a person of a different race.

I know that there are people who want to say that Negroes are not part of the human species. If they want to say that, they should not use the word Untermensch, because it properly connotes less than what they are trying to say, and abusing the word that way perpetuates a caricature of the NSDAP. If you want to say that Negroes are a different species or a lower species ("subhuman") then say that.

Hadding
October 21st, 2011, 08:50 PM
I'm struggling with what appears to be a contradiction:

We're mistaken to characterize our crisis as a racial dilemma ...

I am only saying that the SS publication Der Untermensch is not about race, at least not in any obvious way.

Jimmy Marr
October 21st, 2011, 09:31 PM
I think I get it, Hadding. You're point is not so much and ideological one, but one of accuracy of translation and strategic style. Not only did NSDAP intend untermensch as something other than subhuman, it would be unwise for us to go public, as National Socialists, with that interpretation because it would reflect poorly on both us and them inasmuch as it reflects the nastiness of the Jewish term "Goyim", and is therefore a language habit worthy only of untermenschen?