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NicolasGrassmuller
December 4th, 2011, 05:41 PM
National Socialism and Nazism

“A great idea had been misused by small men. Himmler was the evil symbol of that.” – Alfred Rosenberg

National Socialism is the ideology which lifted Hitler to power in Germany until WWII destroyed his regime. Nazism is a separate phenomenon which occurred after WWII ended: the result of Zionist Allied wartime propaganda to demonize National Socialist Germany combined with selective confessions elicited via deception and duress during the Nuremberg Trials, which subsequently became the ‘official’ version of Hitlerism for the Zionist Allies in WWII, the backdrop to the endless stream of Holocaust fiction. This misrepresentation was then applied by some British and Americans who saw in Nazism the solution to petty fears of their day (for Britain the loss of empire and the influx of immigrants, for America the 1960s Civil Rights movement). Thus, Nazism – a malicious distortion of National Socialism originating in Zionist Allied countries, and then ironically even spread backwards(!) into Germany (e.g. NPD) – has largely replaced authentic National Socialism in the world’s eyes and become the ideology of modern neo-Nazis.



At the core of the confusion is popular failure to recognize that what was called “nationalism” in the pre-WWII period refers to a completely different idea than what is commonly called “nationalism” in the present day. “1930s nationalism” - what we now more accurately call folk independence - was about achieving total economic and political self-reliance (autarky and autonomy) for a country as opposed to bondage by international banking and finance. This was the origin of Hitler’s German folkish state: a rejection of the Treaty of Versailles – and, by extension, all the assumptions of prevalent Western thought underlying it. “2010s nationalism”, on the other hand, is mostly about sowing division within a country between so-called “indigenous-descended” and so-called “immigrant-descended”, and agitating as much hostility as possible towards the latter by the former.

Needless to say, the objectives of “1930s nationalism” and “2010s nationalism” are fundamentally incompatible. In order to achieve independence for a country, as the “1930s nationalists” intend, it is necessary to first encourage unity within the country, which is the exact opposite of what the “2010s nationalists” are doing. Hence it has often been joked that, had neo-Nazis actually lived in National Socialist Germany, they would have been among the first groups put into concentration camps by Hitler.



While neo-Nazism itself has remained a fringe phenomenon, it has indirectly benefited opportunistic racists (including the aforementioned “2010s nationalists”) who have perniciously set up non-racists as one extreme and neo-Nazis as the other extreme, and then presented their so-called “common sense racism” as a false middle ground towards which to lure the poorly informed, thus generating interethnic conflicts exactly in accord with the Zionist agenda.

Awareness of authentic National Socialism as a system wholly distinct from Nazism was initially restricted to a few apolitical historians, who lacked the philosophical perception to properly understand the ideology, and a few eccentric ideologists commonly known as “esoteric Hitlerists”, who could not even agree with each other on National Socialist theory beyond shared acknowledgement that authentic National Socialism was nothing like Nazism. (In fairness, within Hitler’s cabinet had been similarly dramatic ideological divergence and corresponding personal feuds, which led to a humourous claim of the time that there were as many versions of National Socialism as there were NSDAP members – of which the Zionists of course chose the absolute worst (e.g. the traitor Heinrich Himmler, whom everyone else in the cabinet hated) to ‘officially’ represent the party.)

But while some communication occurred between the esoteric Hitlerists and a few honest leaders of neo-Nazi groups, it quickly became apparent (to the considerable dismay of both parties) that bloc-conversion of neo-Nazis to authentic National Socialists was not feasible, for the very reason that the vast majority of those attracted by Nazism had exactly the wrong type of personality for National Socialism.

“Dear Savitri, … You simply must try to understand the almost unbelievable difficulties I face in working here with Americans … they are just plain ignorant and often unbelievably dumb.” – George Lincoln Rockwell

Correspondingly, those with personalities most suitable for National Socialism were exactly those most likely to be put off by Nazism and hence unlikely to study the subject deeply enough to discover the misrepresentation. This simple Zionist trick of associating a noble ideology with an ignoble label has made gaining support for authentic National Socialism extraordinarily difficult. (This trick is hardly new. The same has been done with Gnostic Christianity - the true teachings of Jesus – being given the label ‘Luciferianism’, with similar effects.)

For example, authentic National Socialists view Muslims as allies by default, both remembering the former support of Hitler from the international Islamic community and seeing the continuing sacrifices of Muslims in their struggle against Zionism. Neo-Nazis, on the other hand, typically hate Muslims out of plain xenophobia. When David Myatt personally converted to Islam, hoping to reforge this much-needed alliance, Muslims understood and accepted his gesture while neo-Nazis called him a traitor.



“National-Socialist Germany – what it had evolved to be by the beginning of The First Zionist War – was a modern mostly unconscious expression of the numinous, honourable, warrior ethos, and stood in complete and stark contrast to the materialism, the hubris, of the Magian and their allies and servants in the West, represented by the arrogant, profane, White Hordes of Homo Hubris.” – David Myatt

The next significant mark in the revival of authentic National Socialism is recent, beginning with 21st century anti-Zionists looking for positive political options and culminating in the short-lived OWNP (One World Nazi Party). Its explicitly multiethnic presentation was unprecedentedly effective in breaking the monoethnic stereotype, but did not result in mass conversion to National Socialism. The majority of anti-Zionists pride themselves in their scepticism, a quality which enabled them to unravel Jewish conspiracies in the first place, but which by the same token made it hard for them to take the idealistic leap of faith necessary for an ideology as radical as National Socialism. Instead, many of them prefer to suspect Hitler himself of being a Zionist agent or even a Jew.

It is clear that little further progress will be made so long as the discussion continues to tolerate academics interested only in endless historical nitpicking, barbarians prepared to debase National Socialism to the lowest possible level in order to suit themselves, and cynics who join the conversation without actually believing that the ideology is viable. So how should we proceed? Rudolf Hess provides a solution that we recommend: “Do not seek Adolf Hitler with your mind. You will find him through the strength of your hearts!”

Aryanism categorically rejects reconstructing National Socialism from history alone, for we propose it is but a name for the one political system that will inevitably be expressed by truly noble and selfless thinking. We propose that it is time to emphasize how what we saw in National Socialist Germany was hardly the completed system, but only the tiniest first steps towards it. We face situations that Hitler never had to deal with, from global resource shortages to a nuclear-armed Israel. If we are in this to change the world for the better, then the only worthwhile discussion for us is not what National Socialism was or is, but what it should be.

RickHolland
December 5th, 2011, 03:37 AM
http://aryanism.net/politics/national-socialism-and-nazism/

The owner of that site have some usable ideas but i suspect that he is a subversive tool or maybe he is just a whining soft cunt.

Paul Smith
December 5th, 2011, 12:28 PM
That sounds like another fantasy of that mulatto aryan-National-Socialist-wannabe guy.

He can intellectually somewhat rationalize his views, but I suspect he is creating his own raceless version of NS from obvious personal reasons.

I forgot his name. :rolleyes:

Jim Harting
December 6th, 2011, 03:24 PM
George Lincoln Rockwell's fundamental political insight, which struck him at the very beginning of his career as a National-Socialist, is that our Race is not dying from a lack of good ideas but from a lack of FIGHTING SPIRIT.

I became involved in American National-Socialism in 1966, at age 14. From the very beginning, I encoounted well-meaning people who wanted to redefine, or update, or improve, or tone-down, or americanize National-Socialism. These people feel that by tinkering with Adolf Hitler's core ideas, or by presenting them in a manner less-offensive to ordinary American Whites, that people will welcome the Movement with open arms.

But these efforts have never proven successful.

In point of fact, National-Socialism as conceived of and implemented by Adolf Hitler is PERFECT the way it is, and does not need any "improving, etc., by intellectuals to timid to take on the struggle in a manly and forthright manner.

What people who believe in or who are are sympathetic to National-Socialism need to do is NOT to try and come up with a new (watered-down) version of it. Rather, they need to spend every minute of every day working and fighting to put the original Hitlerian version back into effect!

See the NEW ORDER's redesigned and relaunched web site for an example of how this is to be done:

http://www.theneworder.org.

HWR!

SA Mann
December 10th, 2011, 12:26 AM
George Lincoln Rockwell's fundamental political insight, which struck him at the very beginning of his career as a National-Socialist, is that our Race is not dying from a lack of good ideas but from a lack of FIGHTING SPIRIT.

I became involved in American National-Socialism in 1966, at age 14. From the very beginning, I encoounted well-meaning people who wanted to redefine, or update, or improve, or tone-down, or americanize National-Socialism. These people feel that by tinkering with Adolf Hitler's core ideas, or by presenting them in a manner less-offensive to ordinary American Whites, that people will welcome the Movement with open arms.

But these efforts have never proven successful.

In point of fact, National-Socialism as conceived of and implemented by Adolf Hitler is PERFECT the way it is, and does not need any "improving, etc., by intellectuals to timid to take on the struggle in a manly and forthright manner.

What people who believe in or who are are sympathetic to National-Socialism need to do is NOT to try and come up with a new (watered-down) version of it. Rather, they need to spend every minute of every day working and fighting to put the original Hitlerian version back into effect!

See the NEW ORDER's redesigned and relaunched web site for an example of how this is to be done:

http://www.theneworder.org.

HWR!

Jim,
First welcome to VNN. It's always nice to see a veteran activist sign up. You've fought the fight and walk the walk. Jim is the real deal and if you need advice or a question answered about the NSWPP or New Order, he is your go to guy. You will get straight honest forward answers from Jim.

88!

SaraT
December 10th, 2011, 08:17 AM
Not only are Americans unwilling to fight, they are not even willing to live.
Look at the latest generation and their symbiosis with techno-gadgets. Who is the master in this relationship? And what do they primarily do with those gadgets.... "social networking" and staying on top of what passes for "news" these days (poor Ashton Kutcher, how will he survive the break up with Demi?; did you see the new dress so-and-so wore to the Lakers game last night?.... ad nauseum).

All of our efforts will be for naught, unless a deep paradigm-changing disaster occurs of global proportions involving many deaths across all social strata. The current order and security must not only be threatened it must be completely swept away before people will consider other possibilities. Until then, all we can do is shield the guttering candle which we hold and protect it for the future.