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SmokyMtn
December 19th, 2011, 12:55 AM
Defense and Social Security are going to be the two areas that the neocons are going to try to distort Ron Paul's stance.
This thread will concentrate on Social Security. I will try to break things down so that you can dispel the propaganda.
This is shaping up to be an historic race and you are going to kick yourself for not getting involved. Many of Ron Paul's views are similar to ours.
He thinks they are like contract rights He would not have created the programs to start with, but he believes once people have been forced to pay in the government has to pay for it. His three year plan to balance the budget doesn't cut either by a penny.
You can also tell them that since he thought the Congressional pension was immorally rich, and refused it, he has also been forced to pay into social security and medicare, so his interests are aligned with theirs.
He wants to preserve it for those who are dependent on it, let younger people opt out but in order to save it we have to cut spending from somewhere, you guessed it, overseas.
SmokyMtn
December 19th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Social Security
Paul has given 12 updates on his Texas Straight Talk archive on the issue of Social Security.[131] Paul says that Social Security is in "bad shape ... The numbers aren't there"; funds are depleting because Congress borrows from the Social Security fund every year to fund its budget.[13] He considers himself the rare member of Congress who has voted for such little spending that it has never required borrowing from existing Social Security funds. To stem the Social Security crisis and meet the commitment to elderly citizens who depend on it, he requires that Congress cut down on spending, reassess monetary and spending policies, and stop borrowing heavily from foreign investors, such as those in China, who hold U.S. Treasury bonds. Paul believes young Americans should be able to opt out of the system if they would not like to pay Social Security taxes, in order to protect the system.[13][132]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Social_Security
Rab4
December 20th, 2011, 10:30 AM
They take money that is allotted for one purpose, and spend it on something else. And then tell people they need more taxes to cover it. Bastards.
Steven L. Akins
December 20th, 2011, 10:45 AM
Social Security recepients need to be means tested. If they are millionaires and are drawing Social Security checks, then they should be the first ones to be kicked off. Let what they had been drawing in Social Security go to others who don't have money in the bank to live off of.
SmokyMtn
December 20th, 2011, 10:56 AM
They take money that is allotted for one purpose, and spend it on something else. And then tell people they need more taxes to cover it. Bastards.
We have known about this for a long time. I can remember back in the 1970s, when my grandfather returned from Washington D.C. on behalf of the Home Builders Association, telling me that there was no social security fund, it was nothing more than a book entry, as Congress took the money to pay for ever increasing social programs.
I chuckled during the 80s when the con men in Washington D.C. cried out, "the Social Security fund is going to run out in x number of years, if we did not raise payroll taxes", knowing full well that the fund was raided long before then.
Three-four years ago on Stormfront, I posted a photo of the Social Security fund, which is nothing more than a filing cabinet along the banks of the Ohio River, filled with IOUs.
Rick Ronsavelle
December 20th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Well, that'z better than nothing.
Armstrong
December 20th, 2011, 11:56 AM
And what have we spent it on but what Israel wants us to do, and Israel's agents inside our government have created as policy while our treasonous government have rubber stamped it. Now Romney, if elected, says he won't do anything our prime ally wants him to do....we need to remind him this is American, not Israel.
Contact Governor Romney.... (http://www.mass.gov/governor/utility/contact-us.html)
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