One nice thing about the white race is there is quite a bit of aesthetic diversity within the race. I myself am a blend of quite a few white ethnicities - Polish, Italian, Russian, German. I also look at overall genetic quality (eugenics) along with whiteness.

Assuming a white state could be constructed, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a few "exotic types" being allowed in (not suggesting flooding the state with them). Any opinions on this? If these individuals are let in they would be held to very high standards, IQ, aesthetics, health, etc. Granted I realize there are quite a few purists on this board.

This model is blend of quite a few different ethnicities.

http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/lima8.jpg

One fear WN's tend to have is preservation of Nords (blonde hair, blue eyes) but I think this fear is unfounded if a white state is constructed. Whites in Northern climates will tend to evolve toward this lighter skin tone with blonde hair, blue eyes. You can see this in some of the undiluted white gene pools of the upper Midwest.

First, I think it's worth pointing out that most "exotic types" are not going to resemble this specimen. So let's not overidealize "exotic types" from the getgo.

That aside, when we mull the fact that "pure" Whites--by functional definition, anyone whose family comes from Europe as it were in 1492--vary quite a bit among themselves, we notice that this fact does not really strengthen our hand in evoking a sense of racial community in America. For her own good, it would have been better if the solid, undeniable core of America had remained more or less North Western European, as the resulting "America", as a whole, would have been more close to a recognizable homogenous type (happening to be celto-germanic), instead of this situation being more-or-less confined to sections of mostly rural South and MidWest regions.

Mind you, and let me emphasize this, lest I am misunderstood, I am not saying that southern and eastern Europeans are in any way "inferior" to the North Western types. I am only saying that a greater degree of racial homogenity than what White America currently has is desirable when trying to make an appeal to racial heritage. Given manifest reality, I do hold that pan-European stock (negatively defined by contrasting the whole non-White world) can, is, and should be spun as the literal racial foundation of a future White America. The problem comes in explaining to White Americans why we should stop at the borders of Europe and not accept everyone else who "looks" practically White, a la Diablo Blanco. A slippery slope, itz.

Thus, I have to admit frankly that I literally wince when someone starts suggesting that we start allowing "exotic types" to pass as White. We have to draw the line somewhere, and for me that boundary has to be drawn at the limits of Europe. Otherwise, our racial principle must mean nothing. Europe is already exotic enough!


One nice thing about the white race is there is quite a bit of aesthetic diversity within the race. I myself am a blend of quite a few white ethnicities - Polish, Italian, Russian, German. I also look at overall genetic quality (eugenics) along with whiteness.

Assuming a white state could be constructed, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a few "exotic types" being allowed in (not suggesting flooding the state with them). Any opinions on this? If these individuals are let in they would be held to very high standards, IQ, aesthetics, health, etc. Granted I realize there are quite a few purists on this board.

This model is blend of quite a few different ethnicities.

One fear WN's tend to have is preservation of Nords (blonde hair, blue eyes) but I think this fear is unfounded if a white state is constructed. Whites in Northern climates will tend to evolve toward this lighter skin tone with blonde hair, blue eyes. You can see this in some of the undiluted white gene pools of the upper Midwest.Ummm... the whites in the Upper Midwest tend to have light hair and eyes because a very large number of them are of Norweigen, Swedish or Danish descent.

First, I think it's worth pointing out that most "exotic types" are not going to resemble this specimen. So let's not overidealize "exotic types" from the getgo.....Thus, I have to admit frankly that I literally wince when someone starts suggesting that we start allowing "exotic types" to pass as White. We have to draw the line somewhere, and for me that boundary has to be drawn at the limits of Europe. Otherwise, our racial principle must mean nothing. Europe is already exotic enough!

Good points. That's why I suggested very high standards for these folk, and would probably knock out 95 percent of mixed-race folk anyways.

Irregardless of the this issue, a vast number of people will fall in the "borderline" category, and this area varies quite a bit from WN to WN. Who will be let in will be a political, more than scientific issue.

I believe Dr. Pierce was a Nordicist early on. The Turner Diaries had some anti-Italian references, for example. But later on Pierce became more pragmatic. In a taped call-in interview a caller mentioned to Pierce that Charles Lindberg said that the Scandinavians were the most evolved race on earth, and Pierce responded by stating the NA represents all whites of European descent, including Italians, etc.

Sometimes one might need to become a bit pragmatic in order to make a political movement viable.

The real question is, what do you mean by "exotic types"? Persons showing subtle signs or racial admixture? Not so subtle signs of racial admixture? Pure Whites that are atypical of most local Whites. Extreme Med phenotypes?
A pure Med Iranian White from a spot in Iran distinctly unaffected by racial admixture ,like Loristan, might well consider many Northern Scandanavians with arguably subtle signs of Asian ancestry "exocitic" The Scandanavians might consider him "Exociic". Both would consider purely Aryan but very darkl Southern Iranians "exotic"......its a very ambigious phrase.

diablo

First, I think it's worth pointing out that most "exotic types" are not going to resemble this specimen. So let's not overidealize "exotic types" from the getgo.

That aside, when we mull the fact that "pure" Whites--by functional definition, anyone whose family comes from Europe as it were in 1492--vary quite a bit among themselves, we notice that this fact does not really strengthen our hand in evoking a sense of racial community in America. For her own good, it would have been better if the solid, undeniable core of America had remained more or less North Western European, as the resulting "America", as a whole, would have been more close to a recognizable homogenous type (happening to be celto-germanic), instead of this situation being more-or-less confined to sections of mostly rural South and MidWest regions.

Mind you, and let me emphasize this, lest I am misunderstood, I am not saying that southern and eastern Europeans are in any way "inferior" to the North Western types. I am only saying that a greater degree of racial homogenity than what White America currently has is desirable when trying to make an appeal to racial heritage. Given manifest reality, I do hold that pan-European stock (negatively defined by contrasting the whole non-White world) can, is, and should be spun as the literal racial foundation of a future White America. The problem comes in explaining to White Americans why we should stop at the borders of Europe and not accept everyone else who "looks" practically White, a la Diablo Blanco. A slippery slope, itz.

Thus, I have to admit frankly that I literally wince when someone starts suggesting that we start allowing "exotic types" to pass as White. We have to draw the line somewhere, and for me that boundary has to be drawn at the limits of Europe. Otherwise, our racial principle must mean nothing. Europe is already exotic enough!


If your advice had been followed, Whites would already be a minority in the US, and liberalism would be far further along, since the Irish are the only North-West Europeans (In the US, Europe is a very different story) that were not totally gelded by NWO.
Compare the racial awareness of a typical Italain or Portuguese American,or mixed Med Nord Alipine German American with the awareness of an average Scxandanavian from Minnesota, falling all over himself to hook up local farmgirtls with Hmong, Lost Boys,and Indios Puros from Yucutan
Diablo Blanco has considerably more reason to question the racial pedigree of some Northern Europeans than you do his. Bjork anyone?

diablo

First, I think it's worth pointing out that most "exotic types" are not going to resemble this specimen. So let's not overidealize "exotic types" from the getgo.

That aside, when we mull the fact that "pure" Whites--by functional definition, anyone whose family comes from Europe as it were in 1492--vary quite a bit among themselves, we notice that this fact does not really strengthen our hand in evoking a sense of racial community in America. For her own good, it would have been better if the solid, undeniable core of America had remained more or less North Western European, as the resulting "America", as a whole, would have been more close to a recognizable homogenous type (happening to be celto-germanic), instead of this situation being more-or-less confined to sections of mostly rural South and MidWest regions.

Mind you, and let me emphasize this, lest I am misunderstood, I am not saying that southern and eastern Europeans are in any way "inferior" to the North Western types. I am only saying that a greater degree of racial homogenity than what White America currently has is desirable when trying to make an appeal to racial heritage. Given manifest reality, I do hold that pan-European stock (negatively defined by contrasting the whole non-White world) can, is, and should be spun as the literal racial foundation of a future White America. The problem comes in explaining to White Americans why we should stop at the borders of Europe and not accept everyone else who "looks" practically White, a la Diablo Blanco. A slippery slope, itz.

Thus, I have to admit frankly that I literally wince when someone starts suggesting that we start allowing "exotic types" to pass as White. We have to draw the line somewhere, and for me that boundary has to be drawn at the limits of Europe. Otherwise, our racial principle must mean nothing. Europe is already exotic enough!

There is no preason for AMERICA to necessairily stop at the borders of Europe. Race does not easily and simplisticallt change merely bevause we drawa line across a map. A replacement of our Mexican Mestizos amd Indios and with White Iranians would be an immense improvement, ditto a replacement of Blacks in the South with Poles, Russians and Argentinians.
Europe is another story, there is obviously far too much conflict and rancor in the Old World for any large-scale immigration of White non-Euros to work, and in any case European states have narrow ethnic as well as broad racial identities
APan-Aryan Americawould recieve quite a bit of strictly racially and otherwise screened White immigration from the ME (largely Iran), Latin Americaand Eastern Europe.Nordshere would be in no danger of being swamped as we would get huge numbers of them from the Slavic countries, as well as many Meds from the former 2 sources
We couldnot get too many people from Western Europe at first as they would need to racially cleanse their own nations and raise their birthrate.However once this was done, we could restore the flow of Western Europeans as well.
ALL White immigrants would be expected to learn English, be self supporting and assimilate to the larger White culture. English would become the national language,


diablo

One nice thing about the white race is there is quite a bit of aesthetic diversity within the race. I myself am a blend of quite a few white ethnicities - Polish, Italian, Russian, German. I also look at overall genetic quality (eugenics) along with whiteness.

Assuming a white state could be constructed, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a few "exotic types" being allowed in (not suggesting flooding the state with them). Any opinions on this? If these individuals are let in they would be held to very high standards, IQ, aesthetics, health, etc. Granted I realize there are quite a few purists on this board.

This model is blend of quite a few different ethnicities.

http://home.comcast.net/~jk121764/lima8.jpg

Just what are her ethnicities?

diablo

For obvious reason, I hate the word exotic.

(edited out: nevermind, contradictory)


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Just what are her ethnicities?

diablo

Gonna take a wild guess and say she's probably French of some sort. France is a mix of nord and med anyways.

I question your version of the term "exotic", Jim. Plenty of diversity among Whites. If by exotic you mean bearing features that are not White, what are you thinking? I find White women who are "out of my league" to be exotic. But mongrels do not qualify as such. Who are they going to breed with?
White homeland; with a few "exotics" to look at. Indefensible.

Diablo,

There is no preason for AMERICA to necessairily stop at the borders of Europe.
Yes there is a reason, and a good one: culture. The vast majority of people from Europe are heirs of Occidental or a closely related Christian civilization. Immediately outside of Europe, the ethnoi are predominantly Mohammedan. These cultures are separate universes and will be for the foreseeable future.

By limiting the definition of "White" to Europe, we effectively limit to groups of people that are at least marginally culturally compatible. Muslims are simply not compatible with American civiilzation. (BTW: Considering your own libertine-degenerate attitude towards sexual arrangements, I'm actually puzzled at your pro-towelhead stance.)

If anyone doubts that culture does count for something in this equation, consider WN objections against Jews: are they not based at least as much in culture as they are in race?

I will grant this much: As a White American, if I had to choose between Lebanese Christians and Albanian Muslims, I'd probably side with the Lebanese Christians. Other than that tiny concession, middle easterners are about as desireable as Martians.

Race does not easily and simplisticallt change merely bevause we drawa line across a map. A replacement of our Mexican Mestizos amd Indios and with White Iranians would be an immense improvement, ditto a replacement of Blacks in the South with Poles, Russians and Argentinians.Perhaps, but a replacement with Anglo-saxons or scandinavians or Frenchmen would be many times better.

In reality there is no reason to admit EITHER mestizos or Iranians. As for Iranians, I wish them well in their own country, not mine.

BTW, if these Iranians are so White, why do you use the redundant construction "White Iranians"?

Europe is another story, there is obviously far too much conflict and rancor in the Old World for any large-scale immigration of White non-Euros to work, and in any case European states have narrow ethnic as well as broad racial identities
APan-Aryan Americawould recieve quite a bit of strictly racially and otherwise screened White immigration from the ME (largely Iran), Latin Americaand Eastern Europe.Nordshere would be in no danger of being swamped as we would get huge numbers of them from the Slavic countries, as well as many Meds from the former 2 sources
We couldnot get too many people from Western Europe at first as they would need to racially cleanse their own nations and raise their birthrate.However once this was done, we could restore the flow of Western Europeans as well.
ALL White immigrants would be expected to learn English, be self supporting and assimilate to the larger White culture. English would become the national language,


diabloAmerica should be as it was: Occidental. No one has a right to change it.

Just what are her ethnicities?

diablo

French, Portuguese, Native-American, and Caribbean.

The real question is, what do you mean by "exotic types"? Persons showing subtle signs or racial admixture? Not so subtle signs of racial admixture? Pure Whites that are atypical of most local Whites. Extreme Med phenotypes?

I'm probably talking about a very narrow subgroup. One individual that comes to mind is a woman client of mine. She has a Aryan morphology, but skin tone maybe slightly darker than what would be considered white. I wanted to ask her what her ethnic background was but I guess that would be considered rude. If I were to guess I'd say she had some East Indian admixture, but friggin' drop dead gorgeous.

On the face of it I didn't see it as a problem is very stringent standards are set for these folk, other posters make a valid point about the slippery slope.

Outward manifestations of beauty or a lack thereof are not necessarily indicative of genetic potential. If the most beautiful woman on earth were a nigger and the greatest - no, the 1,000 greatest minds alive today were mestizos, I'd rather see these creatures skinned alive than mixed into the White gene pool. Possession of a few "nice" features or she being "drop-dead gorgeous" is not a valid reason to poison your children's genes and harm future generations. Even trailer-park dwelling Whites like M. Lindstedt have more genetic value than any other non-White alive. This must become our focal point. Race uber alles, etc.

Thanks to the jews masculinization of White women, and feminization of White men, White men have become attracted to the submissive Asian woman. I personally find Asian women sexually attractive, but I recognize the obvious fact that have little to offer in terms of breeding sturdy, creative, healthy children - Anima not withstanding.

Even trailer-park dwelling Whites like M. Lindstedt have more genetic value than any other non-White alive

I think our opinions diverge here. LOL


Stupid people have stupid kids. This is useful for discouraging mixing on a mass scale, but on an individual level, this applies within races as well.



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White men have become attracted to the submissive Asian woman

I think this is one of the few false stereotypes. Americanized asian girls are probably the biggest bitches on earth. Asian girls in asia are submissive, the way females should generally be.

Asian girls in America are generally of the highest socio-economic class, and thus are not only spoiled, but are very materialistic and even somewhat feminist. I know a few asian guys who refuse to date Americanized asian girls because of this.


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America should be as it was: Occidental. No one has a right to change it.

sentence one agreed. sentence two, meaningless. in politics might is right and strategy is everything, and jews had the strategy to use White might against us. read and integrate KMD's article on the 1965 Immigration reform act if you havent, it's a case study worth rereading and remembering for a lesson in jewish subversion, White cupidity and fecklessness, etc.

I say France is more a mix of Germanic and Celtic.

France is a mix of nord and med anyways.

Germanic and Celtic

Celtic have noticable med origins, and Germanic have Nordic origins.

http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/britons.html


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Here we go.... YOU are the forum entity who insists that Nordic is a specific racial sub-group that can be identified by skull-shape, certainly not by white skin, blonde hair, or blue eyes. You have said that Germans are NOT Nordics by your rigorous calibration standards and tweezerings.
Are you now willing to let Germans be considered Nordic? Will you tell us of the Celts' homeland on the Mediterranean Sea?
Tell me more about the noticable (sic) med origins of the Celtic peoples. Explain what you mean by med in that context.

Celtic have noticable med origins, and Germanic have Nordic origins.

http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/britons.html


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Im a brand new member to the forum, and I kind of have mixed feelings.There is good and bad of everybody, but on the whole the White race isn't afforded the same rights as minorities, and being White, I feel like I'm persecuted quite a bit.What bothers me in a bizarre way is seeing all these White kids screwing up their own culture, almost,well, having no decency at all. I don't like seeing White girls surrounding themselves with Blacks, it's almost like an insult.I could be wrong, but it just looks trashy, and I think they WANT it to insult normal White guys.I'm in my mid 30's, and I really feel like my Grandfather would be apalled at what is happening to everything that was Traditional White.Sorry if this is off topic, but I had to vent a little.