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Antiochus Epiphanes
01-03-2005, 03:30 PM
I have previously identified how Presbyterianism is a very Jewish sect compared to Roman Catholicism. I will recap:
1) it is iconoclastic-- no graven images, like Judism. no statutes gold paintings etc like those cool paganesque Roman Cathedrals.
2) it is logocentric-- focus is on Scripture not Tradition, "sola scriptura" as the reformers said, contra what in Roman Catholicism is called the "magisterium" which allows for a source of authority other than the Jewish writings. Oy, prots dont like that, neither do kikes.
3) it is decentralized in government-- rather than governed like the Roman Empire, a strict hierarchy with bishops, cardinals, and a Pontiff, the Presbyterians are governed by "elders" (Prebyter in Greek) and approximates a Jewish diaspora type governance model, where local "elders" decide serious matters and leave more trivial things up to "session" which is a sort of legislative thing, and "trustees" who manage money.
4) presbyterianism is utopian-- rather than accept the nature of man as it is, and get one with life as is famously possible in Roman Catholicism, well epitomized by the "hypocritical" Michael Corleone attending his son's baptism whilst he simultaneously offed his rivals-- presbyterianism has a weak form of grace watered down by the baggage of predestination, and does not offer the individual believer much in terms of "forgiveness" for sins. Thus, presbies typically turn their guilt outwards into "social gospel" foolishness, whether that is the blue laws of Puritanism, the abolitionism of the civil war, the snivel rights marching of the 1960s, or the do-gooder foolishness of today.
JacksonInTheValley
01-03-2005, 03:54 PM
In July, the Presbyterian Church (USA) voted to begin the divestment process against Israel, applying the political action model that was so effective against the apartheid government of South Africa. Since then, Jewish groups have convinced other mainstream Protestant denominations to pull back from the divestment precipice or at least to move more cautiously, although the Presbyterians appear to be sticking to their guns.
Divestment represents a looming disaster for Israel and a community relations crisis for American Jewish groups. Unchecked, the effort would directly challenge and undermine the very legitimacy of the Jewish state by pressing the comparison with the odious former government of South Africa.
Beating back the divestment push will become easier if Israel moves forward with its Gaza disengagement plan and shows signs of a willingness to remove major settlements from the West Bank. But if the Gaza plan turns out to be a ploy to tighten Israel’s hold on West Bank areas, as some officials of the Sharon government have hinted, it will be harder to confine the divestment effort to the Presbyterians, who have traditionally displayed an overwhelming bias against Israel.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=13466
Antiochus Epiphanes
01-03-2005, 04:11 PM
the oppose Israel because they view it as an "apartheid state" and there are so many bleeding heart liberals in the upper organizational levels, that they cant justify how the Izzies are always offing innocent Pals. It pains their sense of third world compassion.
Dont make anything more out of it than that.
Antiochus Epiphanes
01-03-2005, 04:13 PM
Presbyterians prefer an interfaith dialog with kikes than Catholics. That I have seen in practice and it tells me most of what I need to know about Presbtyerian clerics inclinations. Judaizers exceeded only by Quakers and Congregationalist types.
Antiochus Epiphanes
01-03-2005, 04:16 PM
The best things one can say about Presbyterians all have to do with their noble Scottish blood. A Scotsman can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, sheep's goats into haut cuisine. So too the Scotsman has taken Jewish moneylending and turned it into the art and science of modern fractional reserve banking, and taken Calvinism and somewhat turned it from a Judaizing menace to a quasi-vaible religious sect.
But like fractional reserve banking, the threat to the organic health of the folk is still sometimes endangered and must be put in proper focus relative to the activity. IE, fractional reserve banking, and religious sectarianism, must give way to the racial health.
Polybius
01-03-2005, 07:15 PM
I think you, and I are the only two people who care about this subject...
But, let me say this, I can refute every point you have made. :p
JacksonInTheValley
01-04-2005, 11:28 AM
Presbyterianism is as much a "Jewish sect" as Christian Identity.
You ought to be more worried about the Santeria witchdoctors hanging out at your local Catholic church.
Antiochus Epiphanes
01-04-2005, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE=Polybius]I think you, and I are the only two people who care about this subject...
But, let me say this, I can refute every point you have made. :p[/QUOTE]
dont say, do.
there are tons of presbies and ex presbies in this, they might like to read what you have to say. WLP was one example. I personally know of five others pretty heavily involved in our thing. Not including myself, LOL. who knows, maybe they're lurking on this thread just dying for you to punch a hole in my theory.
White Will
01-08-2005, 04:44 PM
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]dont say, do.
there are tons of presbies and ex presbies in this, they might like to read what you have to say. WLP was one example. I personally know of five others pretty heavily involved in our thing. Not including myself, LOL. who knows, maybe they're lurking on this thread just dying for you to punch a hole in my theory.[/QUOTE]
I was raised Presbyterian. It's as worthless a creed for Jew-fighting Whites as is Catholicism; both spawned from the enemy. You might as well be comparing the relative merit of putting a bullet through your head to hanging yourself as the best method for ending your life. Both suck because you're not taking out any of enemy.
Polybius
01-08-2005, 11:33 PM
[QUOTE=White Will]I was raised Presbyterian. It's as worthless a creed for Jew-fighting Whites as is Catholicism; both spawned from the enemy. You might as well be comparing the relative merit of putting a bullet through your head to hanging yourself as the best method for ending your life. Both suck because you're not taking out any of enemy.[/QUOTE]
I will get back to you gentlemen on this discussion of Calvin and the Reformation.
Meanwhile, have any of you seen an anti-semitic letter of Constantine the first Christian Roman Emperor? I understand one exists.
Antiochus Epiphanes
01-12-2005, 09:28 AM
another presbyterian joins the affray
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2005/Higbee011105NorthernTrad.htm
Abzug Hoffman
01-13-2005, 10:25 AM
... when you have to learn your religious traditions from the library, instead of your parents and grandparents.
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