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johnereb63
January 7th, 2004, 09:51 PM
The Wotanic Warrior Spirit
By Vjohrrnt V. Wodansson
2000



Amongst the many great travesties concerning this supposed resurgence of the primordial tradition of Asatru, surely one of the most contorted aspect of it is it's total lacking of the Wotanic spirit in man. The warrior path of the Einherjar, Wotan's fearless chosen warriors have lost their wolf's coat and bear's skin only to be replaced by an un-natural pacific humanitarian Christian thinking. All traces of the Allfather's gift to Man: Oend(breath of life ,old Norse) and his brother Hoenir's Odhr(fury, old Norse) has been taken away by those who would not have a true Man and his folk stand proud in the face of Judeo-Christianity's decadent false values and imperfect dogmas. The bridge to the golden halls of Valhöll have been shut and the Valkyrjur ride no more in quest for the fallen ones on the battlefield because there is no one to wage war the way our forefathers once gloriously did and their fathers before them. Up high upon his throne, the one eyed god must surely be anxious for some news from Hugin and Munin… news of a Heathen awakening.

In essence, the Integral traditions of Nordic Heathenism, whether Slavonic, Celtic, Teutonic, etc, incorporate all the warrior path amongst other paths. This, the ancient barbarian tribes knew as being a natural process in a Man's life. The quest for awakening the immemorial fire within, Wotan's breath of life. It is an undeniable primal instinct to man than to seek to prove himself not only to others, but to himself first. At a very young age, the young man was given his first sword and thought the ways of combat by his father. As soon as a boy realizes he can die and also, has the power to give death to another, he becomes a man. In our modern times, youth are brainwashed at a very young age to forgive, accept, tolerate and love without restrictions or discrimination. That is NOT the way of the warrior. For it is not in the nature of man to "love" and "tolerate" in the measure that it becomes a weakness to himself and thus reflects on his folk. Love, tolerance, acceptance and forgiveness are not necessarily wrong to begin with, but one must be selective to whom one applies these values. The profound nature of man is combative and belligerent. Wotan often sought to create conflicts between clans only to amuse himself in the wars of men and also it permitted him to see who was true to his teachings and who had not understood the way of the sword.
In the contemporary Asatru movement, there are many kindred who neglect this honorable path. Concentrating solely on the exoteric aspect of Asatru worship and neglecting the esoteric essence. The actual "blot" is a traditional element of our folk's Pagan culture and a way to commune with the Gods and Goddesses but the true power of any rite of veneration is contained within it's primordial symbolism. Even without any rituals, costumes, or even words the might of the rite is still overwhelming and it's initial meaning still understood by the Gods and Goddesses. And a major part of this esoteric tradition is the warrior's path. For the true warrior, battles are not won only on the battlefield, but in the soul, heart and spirit as well. The greatest battle one will ever fight will never be against a human foe who is merely "human" after all, but against one's own capitulation before the chosen path. The Enherjar fallows a very lonely and hard road filled with constant ambushes and treachery. It is a willingly chosen course and once embarked upon this hazardous road there is no turning back, at the costs of one's pride and honor.

To the modern man, there are no challenges, no great wars, no honorable quests to reawaken the ancient fire. Today's man his too busy watching hockey, driving sports cars, bragging about his sexual conquests and just being lazy, plain and simple. All manly hood and traces of virility are gone. Replaced by feminine attributes like softness and sensibility. And here I am NOT putting down our heathen sisters but simply stating a fact. These attributes relate to the feminine side, like sensuality, maternity and all the Lunar aspect of the female nature. Man is a Solar representation of that primordial nature. Our pacifist world we live in tries by all means possible to overthrow, even worst; cross over these natures trying to blend them together thus eliminating all traces of each. Resulting in an attempt to regain the original androgynous being. That is absolutely intolerable for any TRUE Man and Woman of the folk. We cannot deny our nature. We can only transcend it.
There are many examples of self proclaimed Asatru kindred who have condemned all violent or combative approach to the Heathen traditions. Some even go as far as to accept Christians and non-Aryan members within their kindred. Certain groups advocate tolerance over the net and try to portray Integral Paganism as a loving, nature worshipping hippy religion. That is the modern way of Wicca, that neo-pseudo pagan movement filled with homosexuals and drug addicts believing that to walk bare foot in the woods makes them "one with nature" and their hallucinogenic drugs helps them to communicate with Diana, Pan or whoever else. These Christianized kindred who claim to be true followers of the old ways attack that Traditional Asatruar with false allegations of perverting the essence of the Troth when in fact, it is them who are perverting it into a humanitarian religion. The ancient Norse were conquerors and fearless warriors showing no mercy towards their enemies and absolutely not proselytizing their fathers faith unto other races. Even within Europe the ancient Vikings did not force their beliefs to other Europeans, for the ways of the North were not and are still not meant for all.

When looking at the Norse pantheon: Wotan, Thorr, Tyr, Heimdallr, and even the lovely yet fearsome Freyja and her Valkyrjur, all of them male and female have a central point of connection: WAR! Combat, defense, all aspects of a warlike nature. So how come this most basic pagan tradition as become so feared and shameful now days? To let the ancient fire within fade out, will only result in weakening your spirit and the spirit of the folk around you as well. That flame which burns high in the hearts of the true folk is the very essence of our people's spirit. The primal fire combined with the primal ice represented as our coldness: our dissociation fm the Judeo-Christian decadent and broken faith. They seek to spread their faith like a plague across the world and enslave as many worthless humans as possible while we should strive to keep our ways to ourselves and only, very selectively open our hearts to certain proud individuals who have heard the raven's call. It is no use to try to awaken all the sleeping minds from their Jewish torpor, the winds from the North will only sing to them when they are worthy of deciphering their name in it's song. For most, an honorless death will strike them down long before that. Unlike the god of the Jews, Wotan cared not for quantity, a million weakling cowards could never match a hundred proud and strong Enherjars. For to pass over Bifrost and live forever in the Halls of spears and golden shields where truth, valor and courage were held as the hallmark of the noble soul, only the warriors would be granted such honors.

It is imperative that we put back into perspective the true principles of Asatru worship. The ways of peace are for those who abandon the fight, who turn their back on their folk and their ancestors memories as well. Those self styled "neo-pagans" are tarnishing the purity of the Troth. The "neo" goes against the traditional and thus it is an insult to our folks beliefs. What they do is dilute the essence and twist it into something acceptable and interesting for the masses. Our way is the way of war, on a physical and spiritual level. We wage war against those who would deny us the freedom to live our lives like our fathers did. To be proud of our heritage, our culture and of our blood. To defend our traditions our folk and our Troth. To be Men and Women of integrity and honor in a world lacking both. To be warriors.

Antiochus Epiphanes
January 8th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Right indeed that many neopagans are pussies. Wiccan feminists sort of jump out at me as the vanguard of that odd group.

Who does not enjoy the stories of Oden? Folk wisdom as deep as Mimir's Well.

However, allow me to make a few observations.

Maybe Allfather Oden is lacking in devotion among the Asatru revivalists not because of Christianity's decadence, but because our archetype of Oden has blended into our archetype for the Christian Godhead. The difference between the Christian pantheon-- such as it is with its Trinity, Holy Mother, and saints-- is more pronounced in places besides Oden and Baldur. The similarities there are perhaps too close for paganist comfort.

How are people supposed to forget that the old religion was lost when the war-chiefs elected Christianity over paganism, and resolved differences in Woden-like fashion by the sword?

Does anybody find it ironic that pagan revivalists like to bemoan the victory of Charlemagne over his rivals? Isnt there quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in complaining about Christian forced conversions?

Fredrik Haerne
January 11th, 2004, 09:57 PM
Right indeed that many neopagans are pussies. Wiccan feminists sort of jump out at me as the vanguard of that odd group.

Who does not enjoy the stories of Oden? Folk wisdom as deep as Mimir's Well.

However, allow me to make a few observations.

Maybe Allfather Oden is lacking in devotion among the Asatru revivalists not because of Christianity's decadence, but because our archetype of Oden has blended into our archetype for the Christian Godhead. The difference between the Christian pantheon-- such as it is with its Trinity, Holy Mother, and saints-- is more pronounced in places besides Oden and Baldur. The similarities there are perhaps too close for paganist comfort.

How are people supposed to forget that the old religion was lost when the war-chiefs elected Christianity over paganism, and resolved differences in Woden-like fashion by the sword?

Does anybody find it ironic that pagan revivalists like to bemoan the victory of Charlemagne over his rivals? Isnt there quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in complaining about Christian forced conversions?

Interesting. But it should be mentioned that in the North the image of Oden has not blended with anyone, and Nordic Mythology is loved and hated for being as White as can be. It is associated with the Viking Era, with strength, the warrior-spirit, masculine values, and defense of our race. And hippie-style "neo-paganism" is never heard of, and never practiced.

That Christianity destroyed the Nordic religion is not a troubling memory. Everybody understands that there was a lot of pressure from the rest of Europe, that the Christians were organized and determined ... and not all chieftains chose to become Christian; a good deal were killed for their beliefs. A Norwegian king forced Christianity upon that country through the sword. Anyone reading viking stories will come across a great deal of stories about greedy Christian priests that demanded gold instead of animals, and about Christian attacks on pagans, and about jarls simply adopting Christianity with a shrug, not thinking of the consequences. It only strengthens the love for Nordic Mythology, and the hatred of Christianity.

I think one factor that gave Christianity its edge was that it had a professional caste of religion-peddlers, who had an interest in constantly expanding Christian territory as a way of furthering their careers and allowing them more income, whereas among the asa believers it was usually just a chieftain or some respected member of the village who performed religious rites.

About Charlemagne, I can only speak for myself: I don't complain about him using force. I complain about him using force to promote a foreign sand religion over religions that sprung naturally from our racial soul.

Draco
January 11th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Vjohrrnt V. Wodansson wrote an excellent piece. Amazed its abou four years old and I've neevr seen it before. I agree that the "neo-Pagans" are just "neo-hippies", and should be dealt with accordingly. It would do well to remind ourselves just how Wotan acquired his knowledge of the Runes-through suffering. While it would stupid to suggest hanging from trees and putting one of our eyes' out would be a mark of virtue, it's an important lesson to learn-to gain, one must suffer.

The fighting spirit is not dead. Those brave Whites who fought back against the non-white tide, be it by violence or not, fought back. Their spirits were intact, just not particularly well-timed. The ZOG-monster gobbles those up quickly, but the less subtle examples...they also have that spark left.

Im guilty of ignoring the esoteric as well....I will examine my life and look to make more opprtunities to become more Wotan-like.

Europe Endless
January 12th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Interesting. But it should be mentioned that in the North the image of Oden has not blended with anyone, and Nordic Mythology is loved and hated for being as White as can be. It is associated with the Viking Era, with strength, the warrior-spirit, masculine values, and defense of our race. And hippie-style "neo-paganism" is never heard of, and never practiced.

That Christianity destroyed the Nordic religion is not a troubling memory. Everybody understands that there was a lot of pressure from the rest of Europe, that the Christians were organized and determined ... and not all chieftains chose to become Christian; a good deal were killed for their beliefs. A Norwegian king forced Christianity upon that country through the sword. Anyone reading viking stories will come across a great deal of stories about greedy Christian priests that demanded gold instead of animals, and about Christian attacks on pagans, and about jarls simply adopting Christianity with a shrug, not thinking of the consequences. It only strengthens the love for Nordic Mythology, and the hatred of Christianity.

I think one factor that gave Christianity its edge was that it had a professional caste of religion-peddlers, who had an interest in constantly expanding Christian territory as a way of furthering their careers and allowing them more income, whereas among the asa believers it was usually just a chieftain or some respected member of the village who performed religious rites.

About Charlemagne, I can only speak for myself: I don't complain about him using force. I complain about him using force to promote a foreign sand religion over religions that sprung naturally from our racial soul.

well said. I agree, the Christians were organized and determined and the heathens couldn't have understood the threat. Many kings and chieftains were corrupted by profit or power from the Church; those that couldn't were coerced or eliminated.

Europe Endless
January 12th, 2004, 12:22 AM
I disagree. The Christ myth is a combination of Aryan mythologies. Was it put together by Jews? Yes. But the Jews never had their own mythology. Their monotheism was taken from the Egyptians and their concept of Satan was taken from Zoroastrianism. Nothing about Jews or Judaism is original.

Look at the iconography of early Christianity, Christ being portrayed as Bacchus and Apollo. Also let's not forget that Christianity was accepted by the Romans because it reconciled the two other official monotheistic religions at the time of Constantine: Mithraism and the Cult of Sol Invictus. Chistianity was rapidly growing, no doubt borrowing heavily from these myths and religions (Mithraism & Sol Invictus). In order to preserve the Empire, Constantine endorsed Christianity because Christ, as son of the solar god, reconciled the official religions, thus preserving the Empire.

Christianity is unique to the west. It in no way resembles Judaism or Islam. Hell, the Holy Trinity is a very pagan concept. Originally from the Gnostic era (1st to 2nd centuries), the Holy Trinity was a "revolt" against Jehova!

I've seen this type of argument before. It seems like an elaborate rationalization for Christianity and a rather superficial one at that. You ignore the values of Christianity and instead focus on some structuralist parallels that it apparently shares with European paganism. With that approach we can feasibly compare any two religions and claim a common origin. Pseudo-scholars of myth and religion like Joseph Campbell have been doing this for years to show the 'universality' of human spirituality. And indeed, the structure of many spiritual traditions which are actually unrelated are very similar by coincidence or by very basic commonalities in human psychology. But structure is quite irrelevant. It is the content of these spiritual traditions which is significant and the core content of Christianity has always been non-European and, I would argue, anti-European. Look at the values themselves, not the arrangement of symbols.

Christianity's origins are in Israel; it came from the Jews. There is no getting around that. The New Testament reflects Jewish values. Was Christianity all bad? No, not exactly. At least to the extent that it was Europeanized it was healthy but the core of Christianity has always remained Semitic. The foundations of Christianity are egalitarianism and money, values inherited from Judaism. It is an alien ideology.

Fredrik Haerne
January 12th, 2004, 07:18 AM
I disagree. The Christ myth is a combination of Aryan mythologies. Was it put together by Jews? Yes. But the Jews never had their own mythology. Their monotheism was taken from the Egyptians and their concept of Satan was taken from Zoroastrianism. Nothing about Jews or Judaism is original.

Look at the iconography of early Christianity, Christ being portrayed as Bacchus and Apollo. Also let's not forget that Christianity was accepted by the Romans because it reconciled the two other official monotheistic religions at the time of Constantine: Mithraism and the Cult of Sol Invictus. Chistianity was rapidly growing, no doubt borrowing heavily from these myths and religions (Mithraism & Sol Invictus). In order to preserve the Empire, Constantine endorsed Christianity because Christ, as son of the solar god, reconciled the official religions, thus preserving the Empire.

Christianity is unique to the west. It in no way resembles Judaism or Islam. Hell, the Holy Trinity is a very pagan concept. Originally from the Gnostic era (1st to 2nd centuries), the Holy Trinity was a "revolt" against Jehova!

I shouldn't have to point this out, but the Bible is full of Jews.... "Oh, poor Jew Mariah, and what a fascinating story about the Jew Moses, poor Jews stuck in Egypt, hooray for the Jews annihilating the cities in Canaan, how wise that Jew Salomon was...." Not exactly the perfect focus for White people.

What great wisdom did sticklicking preserve from the Unconquered Sun? That if a man wants to steal your shirt, you should give him your coat as well? That if he hits you, you should turn the other cheek and let him hit you again? That the first shall be the last, the meek shall inherit the earth, it is bad to be rich and good to be poor? It's just full of populist philosophy aimed at winning followers among the low, just like socialism.

Asatro, on the other hand, allows and encourages a realistic view of the world, and that's why we like it so much.

FREY
January 15th, 2004, 02:15 AM
[QUOTE=johnereb63]The Wotanic Warrior Spirit



Great post. I think humans in general "need" religion, or perhaps a philosophy pertaining to the world around them. After I became aware of the terrible deeds of the wicked (race traitors, jews), this is the most that I've struggled with religion. Christianity is an alien, foreign religion, whether christians want to admit it or not. It is however, ingrained in many Whites. I've never agreed with turning the other cheek and loving your enemies. What horrible advice! No one has ever been able to coherently explain that verse to me. Even before I became aware I always wondered what my pre-christian European ancestors worshiped. What was their religion? Who were their Gods? Did they have Goddesses? Since then I've learned much about Asatru. I really think it speaks to our Racial Soul. On the other hand, I've read a lot of Ben Klassen's material(World Church Of The Creator). A lot of what he wrote made sense. I read a lot of David Lane's material on Wotanism/Asatru. That too makes a lot of sense. I keep going back and forth on "what" I am spiritualy. I consider myself agnostic sometimes, then asatuar. I really feel a strong connection to Frey of the Vanir. Could it be my imagination? Maybe. Maybe not. Whites have four choices of religion (or lack thereof)

1. Christianity. I've learned more about christianity from Klassen than from any priest. Several different sects/classes. Which one to pick?

2. Agnostic. Impossible to prove the existence of God(s) Goddesses although not DENYING their existence, either. In a way sort of lukewarm, not commiting to either-or.

3. Atheist. Someone who disbelieves or denies the existence of God(s)

4. Asatru/Wotanism. The belief in the Old Religion. The religion of our ancestors. The belief in both Gods and Goddesses. It is a Race based, Warrior religion. The honor of our ancestors and of our earth. Some have described it as the native american religion of Europe, although our religion is even older. Evidence around 42,000 years ago.

Many of our people are turning away from christianity for several reasons. Gay marriage/preachers, pediphiles etc. Many have never even read the bible. Check out www.skepticsannotatedbible.com As I've stated before, people need religion. I feel I'm happier when I'm in the mountains with nature thinking of my relatives and ancestors. I feel better knowing We have Our own Gods and Godesses. I think our Gods and Goddesses are not dead, only sleeping. They are beginning to awaken. I truly believe in this day and age this religion chooses the person, not the other way around. Am I fooling myself? Were our ancestors fooling themselves? No, the more a religion is in touch with the earth and has respect for nature and is bound by Race the better. No, Asatru is not foolish, nor is it a hobby.

Antiochus Epiphanes
January 16th, 2004, 01:21 PM
I say you cant ignore the eclipse of Asatru or the Greco-Roman pantheon and practices by Christianity. You cant turn back the clock. But you can rediscover all of these and reconcile them to one another by asking what did my ancestors find useful or meaningful about their religious beliefs and practices in the place and time and context in which they found themselves.

With a prolonged and ongoing consideration of that question made with due respect to all your ancestors, and the myths and gods that they believed in, I believe we can share in a sort of Communion of Saints, wherein we share a literal blood bond, a spirtual blood bond, a reverence for the past and a hope for the future.

There is the literal and the symbolic. A symbol is not useless merely because Semites thought it up. We use Roman letters, but dont we use Arabic numerals? I wouldnt waste a second trying to come up with a new number system.

If people have not learned about the stories of the Nordic gods, certainly they should learn them. I have long considered Edith Hamilton's Mythology a great place to start. Further, it often juxtaposes Greek and Nordic myth to show similarities and differences, which is very isntructive as to the shared nature of our collective unconsciousness.

I believe that many of those here who appreciate the pagan spirituality could also learn to appreciate aspects of Christianity in time. I think Revilo Oliver's "Origins of Christianity" is a great place to start. Oliver was an atheist and an Aryanist of the first order, but there is much to be learned in this book about the usefulness of religion to our tribe in the past and to the Enemy as well. Also, a great discussion of Zoroastrianism/ Mithraism.

Aryan Lord
January 21st, 2004, 06:10 PM
I disagree. The Christ myth is a combination of Aryan mythologies. Was it put together by Jews? Yes. But the Jews never had their own mythology. Their monotheism was taken from the Egyptians and their concept of Satan was taken from Zoroastrianism. Nothing about Jews or Judaism is original.

Look at the iconography of early Christianity, Christ being portrayed as Bacchus and Apollo. Also let's not forget that Christianity was accepted by the Romans because it reconciled the two other official monotheistic religions at the time of Constantine: Mithraism and the Cult of Sol Invictus. Chistianity was rapidly growing, no doubt borrowing heavily from these myths and religions (Mithraism & Sol Invictus). In order to preserve the Empire, Constantine endorsed Christianity because Christ, as son of the solar god, reconciled the official religions, thus preserving the Empire.

Christianity is unique to the west. It in no way resembles Judaism or Islam. Hell, the Holy Trinity is a very pagan concept. Originally from the Gnostic era (1st to 2nd centuries), the Holy Trinity was a "revolt" against Jehova!

I agree, the Christ figure is a construct of various heroes and sun gods found in Aryan mythology, such as Crishna,Buddha,Mithras,Osiris,Horus,Serapis,Hercules,Dionysius,Prometheus,Achilles,Meleagros,Baldur,Tammuz and Apollo and others.
All of the alleged "miracles" reportedly carried out by Christ in the New Testament are copies of events from eons before in our Aryan past.
It is a very interesting Jewish fable but nothing more.

Vjohrrnt V. Wodansso
March 8th, 2004, 02:23 PM
Well, I have just discovered that one of my articles has been the subject of discussion on your forum. I am pleased that it has brought fuel for such discussion for indeed that is the verry essence of writing, to bring about questions and ideas, etc. Well, I may just hang out here for a while if anyone would like to discuss further about it or other matter of course.

Wotan mit uns!

V.v.Wodanson
VOR TRU

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 8th, 2004, 05:40 PM
Well, I have just discovered that one of my articles has been the subject of discussion on your forum. I am pleased that it has brought fuel for such discussion for indeed that is the verry essence of writing, to bring about questions and ideas, etc. Well, I may just hang out here for a while if anyone would like to discuss further about it or other matter of course.

Wotan mit uns!

V.v.Wodanson
VOR TRU

Here's a question for you. Are you familiar with Shintoism? Do you see any parallels between the theme of your article and the embrace of Shinto and Bushido by Japanese fascists in WW2? What could Americans look to who lack the kind of of cultural backround shared by indigenous Europeans or Japanese? How are deracinated Whites to find this thing in soil so far from the original Hiemat? Please talk about this.