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Aryan Lord
January 31st, 2005, 03:31 PM
http://a.1asphost.com/bocksaga/asp/page.asp?PageNo=2&Sections=The%20Bock%20Sa-ga%20Pt%20II

-LiveWire-
January 31st, 2005, 03:39 PM
Most interesting, thanks for posting that.

Also take a look at this http://www.bocksaga.com/

Herman van Houten
January 31st, 2005, 06:34 PM
Amazing, thank you both!

However, this shocked me:

In June 1999, Ior Bock was attacked by a man in his sister's apartment in Helsinki. Ior was stabbed in the back a number of times. His heart stopped for 10 minutes. Paramedics managed to revive him but the attack left Ior a quadriplegic.
Are the kikes trying to silence him?

Abzug Hoffman
February 1st, 2005, 07:33 AM
Probably someone noticed he was insane and they tried to kill him to put him out of his misery.

Herman van Houten
February 1st, 2005, 11:13 AM
He's not more insane than the average judeo-christian.

Aryan Lord
February 1st, 2005, 12:16 PM
Amazing, thank you both!

However, this shocked me:


Are the kikes trying to silence him?

Thanks. :)
I think that there is something sinister behind his stabbing.
The authorities in Finland are trying to silence him and they[including the church] are extremely unco-operative when it comes to granting permission to carry out archaeological digs.
They are scared of the truth because it mains that the whole of human history has to be rewritten. It also supports the theory of the Aryan Uebermensch which must be a real embarrassment to his enemies.

Aryan Lord
February 1st, 2005, 12:17 PM
Probably someone noticed he was insane and they tried to kill him to put him out of his misery.

That is the kind of helpful and constructive comment that we have grown accustomed to from you Hoffmann.

Aryan Lord
February 1st, 2005, 01:35 PM
This site looks interesting with its animated swastika sunwheel and 15 minute long video clip on the Bock temple excavations:-

http://www.bocksaga.de/

Abzug Hoffman
February 1st, 2005, 04:42 PM
That is the kind of helpful and constructive comment that we have grown accustomed to from you Hoffmann.


I wanted to kill him just reading his stupid nonsense. Is that really what Finlandia and Carelia nobility looks like - milky skinned jews with bushy black beards?

No white power will ever come from elves, believe me.

Aryan Lord
February 1st, 2005, 04:52 PM
I wanted to kill him just reading his stupid nonsense. Is that really what Finlandia and Carelia nobility looks like - milky skinned jews with bushy black beards?

No white power will ever come from elves, believe me.

Bock is an ancient Germanic name and I see nothing unAryan in wearing a beard.
Naturally as a brainwashed Jew-xtian you are honour bound by "Mother Church" to refute the Bock Saga because it exposes your religion for what it is-Jewish fairytales.If your church is not afraid why does it seek to suppress the truth of the saga?

Abzug Hoffman
February 1st, 2005, 05:07 PM
You did get to the part where he found Jehovah and Ra doing well under a rock in his backyard?

Aryan Lord
February 1st, 2005, 05:09 PM
You did get to the part where he found Jehovah and Ra doing well under a rock in his backyard?

I think you should c&p the passage here and we can debate it.

Abzug Hoffman
February 1st, 2005, 05:52 PM
Ha, what a bunch of crap!

"...Within the Kela of sounds, which make up the Rot language was the knowledge of how to be one with nature and our plan-et, plan means plan and et means family, family plan to create wholeness.
Men and Women were equal. The man had his-story (history) and the female her miss story (mystery). Both understood the knowledge of how the light of the Sun enables all things to grow and is everything, known as Oden. Ooden also represents the knowledge of the Court of Aser. One Ring, whole and complete, one giving, breeding system,
*Ye-hov-a* " give to the Court of Aser" was in Uudenmaa with Hel at its centre. With this knowledge and its proper utilisation, the Aser was considered healthy whole and complete. This was eventually changed to
*Jehovah*. God (good) within became "God in Heaven." Through Christian times the Heathen system, and all it represented, was hunted down, destroyed and removed.

Eventually the female was excluded from this new system because much of her mystery (miss-story) became ta-boo (taboo). Ta is to give (germinate the seed) which is feminine, b is borg, meaning cast-el, (castle) the breeding system and oo is Oden the Sun and knowledge to make things grow healthy.
Shiva is the Sun and moon once a month, knowledge of the Moon and monthly cycles. The respect and sharing of male and female essence sperma and sav was regarded as whol-i (holy) and created the
*i-moo-en system meaning in the mouth,
creating a healthy and whole immune system.
Then the respect and sharing of sperma and sav became taboo, in other words restricted and forbidden. Men could no longer understand the history and mystery to assimilate the seed of knowledge, did not follow the breeding system and create wholeness with Ooden. Prior to this time it was the female's right to choose when to be a mother by way of the dream of Lucia. This happened on the 13th of December, Lucia day..."

Aryan Lord
February 2nd, 2005, 01:12 PM
Ha, what a bunch of crap!

"...Within the Kela of sounds, which make up the Rot language was the knowledge of how to be one with nature and our plan-et, plan means plan and et means family, family plan to create wholeness.
Men and Women were equal. The man had his-story (history) and the female her miss story (mystery). Both understood the knowledge of how the light of the Sun enables all things to grow and is everything, known as Oden. Ooden also represents the knowledge of the Court of Aser. One Ring, whole and complete, one giving, breeding system,
*Ye-hov-a* " give to the Court of Aser" was in Uudenmaa with Hel at its centre. With this knowledge and its proper utilisation, the Aser was considered healthy whole and complete. This was eventually changed to
*Jehovah*. God (good) within became "God in Heaven." Through Christian times the Heathen system, and all it represented, was hunted down, destroyed and removed.

Eventually the female was excluded from this new system because much of her mystery (miss-story) became ta-boo (taboo). Ta is to give (germinate the seed) which is feminine, b is borg, meaning cast-el, (castle) the breeding system and oo is Oden the Sun and knowledge to make things grow healthy.
Shiva is the Sun and moon once a month, knowledge of the Moon and monthly cycles. The respect and sharing of male and female essence sperma and sav was regarded as whol-i (holy) and created the
*i-moo-en system meaning in the mouth,
creating a healthy and whole immune system.
Then the respect and sharing of sperma and sav became taboo, in other words restricted and forbidden. Men could no longer understand the history and mystery to assimilate the seed of knowledge, did not follow the breeding system and create wholeness with Ooden. Prior to this time it was the female's right to choose when to be a mother by way of the dream of Lucia. This happened on the 13th of December, Lucia day..."


This makes perfect sense to me,but then at least I have taken the trouble to familiarise myself with the saga by reading most of the available material not just 1 paragraph.
As a xtian you object to anything and anyone who does not conform to your monotheistic,Jewish and authoritarian Weltanschauung.
What particular part of the quoted work do you wish to take issue with?

FranzJoseph
February 2nd, 2005, 02:35 PM
What particular part of the quoted work do you wish to take issue with?

As a former, pre-Vatican II Catholic I can answer that one without fear of disputation; here's what the believers rage about:

*Jehovah*. God (good) within became "God in Heaven." Through Christian times the Heathen system, and all it represented, was hunted down, destroyed and removed.

Both points show the essential corruption of monotheism:

1. God (good) within became "God in Heaven." -- That is to say our own approximation of God, as Aryans, is the goodness inside ourselves. This "god as team spirit" is essential to Northern Folk. We are servants of the Divine by fulfilling our nature.

Indeed, "nature" is our divine; this is the reason Northern religions are pantheistic for pantheism scatters the light of the divine like a prism and allows us to choose an individual path that still honors the folk-spirit.

By putting "god in heaven" Yahwehists have turned the Jew-god into a commodity. And they have ordered all of us to pay for the use of it. What corruption! And all you have to do is point out that it is corrupt for a Yahwehist to hate you for life.

2. the Heathen system, and all it represented, was hunted down, destroyed and removed. Again, all you have to do is tell an xian that their fraud-god was spread by violence, misrepresentation and blackmail and they go ballistic. The simple truth offends their delicate natures.

"Yahweh" can never be a European deity. Europeans experience the divine directly; Jews had to get it second-hand from Moses. To point this obvious fact out drives xian mad because if they have enough of a European soul left in themselves they know it is true.

The Heathen experienced direct knowledge of the divine in all they did, whether as warriors, farmers, peasents or rulers. This is the folk-soul of honor, of the inherently noble. The xian must drive this out or misrepresent it because if they don't they'll run out of sheep -- fast.

Aryan Lord
February 2nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
Franz Joseph you have articulated what we all believe most eloquently: thank you. :)

Abzug Hoffman
February 2nd, 2005, 06:46 PM
Franz Joseph you have articulated what we all believe most eloquently: thank you. :)


All we need to know about you is one sentence:

Dick Russell interviewed Anton LaVey with his approval. Russell wrote up the interview in "The Satanist Who Wants To Rule the World", (Argosy, June 1975, p. 41) that the Anton LaVey believes that he and an elite force of Satanists will rule the world. LaVey took an obscure occult tract from the 30’s and some thoughts from HG. Well’s book The Island of Dr. Moreau for a ritual. From this, he came up with a ritual which includes these stanzas:

"Man is God. We are men. We are gods. God is man."

FranzJoseph
February 2nd, 2005, 07:04 PM
LaVey was born Levy. One of yours, Abzug: A Jew who invents a religion. See also: Moses, Jesus, Paul, etc, etc, etc.

Actually Anton was impressively energetic in that he supported the terrorist Israeli Irgun. His official biographer actually writes about this in glowing terms, apparently aware that not many non-Jews will read the book.

Abzug Hoffman
February 3rd, 2005, 07:07 AM
LaVey was born Levy. One of yours, Abzug: A Jew who invents a religion. See also: Moses, Jesus, Paul, etc, etc, etc.

Actually Anton was impressively energetic in that he supported the terrorist Israeli Irgun. His official biographer actually writes about this in glowing terms, apparently aware that not many non-Jews will read the book.

And FranzJosef was born FranzJerkoff. See also his comments on: Ra, Ahriman, etc, etc, etc.

Herman van Houten
February 3rd, 2005, 08:44 AM
I do support writing and/or making up a mythological-historical history of the Aryan Race of pre-history, as a counter to the fraud of the Old Testament.
Something like the Oera Linda book, and this Bock-book, only better. The Bock-book can be used as a source of ideas.

Abzug Hoffman
February 3rd, 2005, 09:16 AM
I do support writing and/or making up a mythological-historical history of the Aryan Race of pre-history, as a counter to the fraud of the Old Testament.
Something like the Oera Linda book, and this Bock-book, only better. The Bock-book can be used as a source of ideas.

Yeah, right. An idea - Get the schools to hold "Aryan Race History Month" and make up a 'history'. That will impress everybody!

Aryan Lord
February 3rd, 2005, 12:26 PM
All we need to know about you is one sentence:

Dick Russell interviewed Anton LaVey with his approval. Russell wrote up the interview in "The Satanist Who Wants To Rule the World", (Argosy, June 1975, p. 41) that the Anton LaVey believes that he and an elite force of Satanists will rule the world. LaVey took an obscure occult tract from the 30’s and some thoughts from HG. Well’s book The Island of Dr. Moreau for a ritual. From this, he came up with a ritual which includes these stanzas:

"Man is God. We are men. We are gods. God is man."

I am not a Satanist as you know but a Wotanist.
I will grant you however that in a sense I believe man is god and that the elite among us are destined as sun initiates to walk this earth as god men.
Do you have a problem with that?
Dont you believe that your own Jewish messiah is a god and walked the earth after his death?

Aryan Lord
February 3rd, 2005, 12:28 PM
I do support writing and/or making up a mythological-historical history of the Aryan Race of pre-history, as a counter to the fraud of the Old Testament.
Something like the Oera Linda book, and this Bock-book, only better. The Bock-book can be used as a source of ideas.

I agree. We can and should create our own myths. In a sense they would be true as we would without realising it be tapping into the Collective Racial Unconscious just as Tolkien did.

Abzug Hoffman
February 3rd, 2005, 07:28 PM
I am not a Satanist as you know but a Wotanist.
I will grant you however that in a sense I believe man is god and that the elite among us are destined as sun initiates to walk this earth as god men.
Do you have a problem with that?
Dont you believe that your own Jewish messiah is a god and walked the earth after his death?

As you know, you are anti-christ. That is all I know about you.

Jesus walked on the water, but Bock can't walk at all. NEXT!!!!

-LiveWire-
February 4th, 2005, 01:20 PM
As you know, you are anti-christ. That is all I know about you.

Jesus walked on the water, but Bock can't walk at all. NEXT!!!!

Why don't you get back to the sewer and keep worshipping jews, you jew loving Xtian.

Aryan Lord
February 4th, 2005, 01:33 PM
As you know, you are anti-christ. That is all I know about you.

Jesus walked on the water, but Bock can't walk at all. NEXT!!!!

Your Jewsus,if he ever existed sucked mens dicks.He had a really close relationship with John,a much younger man and xrist though a Jewish rabbi never married. A real queer if you ask me and a kike one at that.
Yes I am anti-xrist beacuse I am anti-semitic unlike you.
This Bock can walk boy.And I can fight as well.
So anytime you fancy putting your Jewish god to the test against my Wotan pm me and we will arrange a duel.

Abzug Hoffman
February 4th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Your Jewsus,if he ever existed sucked mens dicks.He had a really close relationship with John,a much younger man and xrist though a Jewish rabbi never married. A real queer if you ask me and a kike one at that.
Yes I am anti-xrist beacuse I am anti-semitic unlike you.
This Bock can walk boy.And I can fight as well.
So anytime you fancy putting your Jewish god to the test against my Wotan pm me and we will arrange a duel.

IF he existed THEN he sucked men's dicks is not a well reasoned argument. None of that is in the gospels. But I am sure every atheist jew and fag jew agrees with you, for what that is worth.

http://www.wels.net/wmc/Downloads/191.gif

I think that's Wotan with the beard in the lower right corner!

Aryan Lord
February 4th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Read the New Testament and see for yourself.Xrist was a gayboy.He buggered John,a much younger man on a regular basis.
Why do you insist on worshipping a Jew, a dead Jew and a queer one at that?
Nailing that bastard to a tree was the best thing that the Aryan race ever did[if he existed].

-LiveWire-
February 4th, 2005, 03:43 PM
IF he existed THEN he sucked men's dicks is not a well reasoned argument. None of that is in the gospels. But I am sure every atheist jew and fag jew agrees with you, for what that is worth.

http://www.wels.net/wmc/Downloads/191.gif

I think that's Wotan with the beard in the lower right corner!

What's that got to do with the Bock Saga? Go away you Xtian piece of dog's liver.

J.P. Slovjanski
February 12th, 2005, 09:30 PM
As you know, you are anti-christ. That is all I know about you.

Jesus walked on the water, but Bock can't walk at all. NEXT!!!!


Actually many other mythological people "walked on water". That is characteristic of the universal solar myth, of which the Jesus character is a part. The sun "walks on water".

Abzug Hoffman
February 15th, 2005, 09:37 PM
You are mythological compared to God.

J.P. Slovjanski
February 16th, 2005, 05:36 PM
You are mythological compared to God.


Really? How many replies on this board have you got from God then?