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Fred
November 30th, 2012, 07:00 PM
I now have high speed internet for the first time in my life. I would like to download files and such and I understand that it is done through a bit torrent.

I need to learn the basics. For instance, what if I wanted to download all of Dr. pierces speeches? how would I do that through a bit torrent?

What is a Flack file and how do I use them?

I am ignorant of these things.

Thanks

JAGSTER
November 30th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Hi fred

I will try to explain bit torrents the best I can, although I am sure some of the younger members could do it better.

An example of a bit torrent would be '' pirate bay'' where one can download movies,music, and such although that is a copyright violation' cough ...cough..





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pirateproxy.net/ - Netherlands



now let us say that you downloade pirate bay website and were thinking of downloading some material then you would also need a bittorrent, now one of the most popular bit torrents that I use is ( utorrent) µTorrent - a (very) tiny BitTorrent client (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=utorrent&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.utorrent.com%2F&ei=R2C5UM_5BY_NmQX3nIA4&usg=AFQjCNHnDXK_GdW2krhzwQouvUOQ_SJ9PQ) now some books, comics, need a PDF converter







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Hope this helps mate, you can pm me if you need any more help.

Jagster

ex ''Kiap''

Roy Wagahuski
November 30th, 2012, 07:54 PM
An example of a bit torrent would be '' pirate bay'' where one can download movies,music, and such although that is a copyright violation' cough ...cough..

No, you're confusing a torrent-file hosting site with the internet protocol called bittorrent.

Fred, http://lifehacker.com/285489/a-beginners-guide-to-bittorrent .

Roy Wagahuski
November 30th, 2012, 08:06 PM
I think you mean .flac, which is an audio container format like MP3, or WMA, etc. Regard it like any regular audio file you'd play on your computer. Often though media players such as Windows Media Player don't support flac by default, in which case you need the appropriate codec installed to play it, or just install a better program called GOM Player which does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC

Fred
November 30th, 2012, 08:30 PM
Thanks you guys.
I just downloaded a free educational concert with Steve Morse and the Dixie Dreggs.

I can see how this is going to be a useful tool.

So, It works.

Crowe
December 2nd, 2012, 02:39 PM
Also Fred, in case you ISP monitors such actions as torrenting copyrighted material, there is a program you might want to get called peerblock.

http://www.peerblock.com/

The P2P (Peer to Peer) monitoring is what applies to torrents.

My ISP doesn't monitor, but a friend of mine has Insight Cable, and they do monitor, and he told me after using Peerblock he no longer got letters in the mail about downloading copyrighted material.

For some reason torrents are the only way I can download any large files on my PC, because regular downloads always stall or get corrupted due to unknown reasons I don't have the knowledge to troubleshoot.

AJG
December 8th, 2012, 06:18 AM
I think it's a good idea to give a decent explanation of how BT actually works. You basically have 4 things involved: a file or files that you're uploading/downloading, a torrent file, a torrent client and a tracker.

The torrent file contains the information about the files and the tracker
The tracker is a server* that tracks the people downloading/uploading the files
The torrent client (go with utorrent in my opinion) is what you see on your screen when you download a torrent. It contains the programming necessary to create the files listed in the torrent file as well as trade information with the tracker. It can also create a torrent file

Basically, a person creates the torrent file and it opens in the client as uploading. When you are uploading a torrent file, you are telling the tracker you have all of the files, they're intact and you're willing to send them to other people. So the person that created the torrent file then uploads it to wherever they want for others to download. When you open a torrent file and you don't have the files (or they're not complete), you are asking the tracker for the people that do have them and are willing to send them to you. There's also a middle ground where if you've downloaded a chunk of the files, you can then upload that to other people while downloading from others that haven't downloaded everything.

This is an important concept to grasp and I want to get some terminology in before I explain why

Seed/er - Someone who's at 100% complete and uploading to others
Peer - Someone who's at <100% and downloading the files. They may also be uploading but not necessarily.
Ratio - Amount of the files downloaded vs amount of the files uploaded. A ratio is good when upload is equal or higher.

All this is important to the average user for 2 reasons:

1. If you leave a finished torrent in your client, you're using your upload bandwidth. If your ISP has bandwidth caps, leaving torrents to upload is a good way to go over them. It's a good idea to delete them when they're done. If you're feeling nice, though, you can seed it for other random people all over the world! :)

2. You can't download a torrent with 0 seeders. A torrent with 0 seeders is a torrent for which all the files (or "chunks" of them) are not available to be downloaded. Any place you download a torrent from will have the number of seeders and peers (also called leeches in some places) for the torrent. Don't bother with torrents that have 0 seeders.

Why BitTorrent? Because the files are never held by the tracker itself but rather the tracker tells you where to get them, so they can't be shut down for illegal activity. The Jews still try to shut them down and sometimes succeed via intimidation but there is no illegal activity on the part of the person/people that own the tracker. It's decentralized file-sharing. The downside to this is, obviously, if everyone decides to stop seeding, the torrent is "dead". But for when something just comes out or is very popular, torrents are the way to go.

*a server, for the super-non-techies, is a computer that is set up to handle certain information exchanges with other computers. It usually doesn't have a mouse/keyboard/monitor attached to it but just sits on the Internet (or a local network). This website is hosted on a server

You can get utorrent at http://utorrent.com. For beginners, if you don't know what your Internet speeds are, be sure to set your upload speed to 25 kb/s. You do this by right-clicking the bottom-right rectangle that says "U:" (for utorrent, anyway). If you do know what your Internet speed is, be sure to set your upload limit to 30-40 kb/s LESS than the maximum, as your Internet needs upload bandwidth in order to download. Using all of your upload bandwidth will "choke" your downloads.

As for getting torrent files, my favourite site is http://torrentz.eu. It scans a bunch of different websites for their torrents and piles them into one search engine. It doesn't host torrent files though, but redirects you to where it found the file you're looking for. Best choices that usually show up in the list are thepiratebay, h33t and 1337x.

Well, there you have it, now think of something that comes on a disc or can be downloaded (books included) that you want and go get it - for free!

Please feel free to ask any questions or have me elaborate on anything I've covered.

PS, fun fact: this technology was created by a Jew!

Fred
December 14th, 2012, 06:22 PM
PS, fun fact: this technology was created by a Jew!

That Bastard!