Some people have been chasing other people all around the board flaming and tearing all the threads off topic. One person has been banned to opposition but there are some other people who have been doing this too. When this rises to a certain level it becomes a boring, irritating, annoying, irrelevant, disruption. This is a forum with minimum rules and maximum free speech and it will stay that way, but it's got to have some structure or else it becomes a playpen for whiners and antis and deliberate disruptors.

Feel free to bitch and moan right here in this thread, this is the place for it.

Feel free to bitch and moan right here in this thread, this is the place for it.
This is going to become the largest thread ever!

Translation: Don't insult Glenn Miller. Rest of you, carry on.


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Heh. You're starting immediately with your flaming AE. :)

But this new rule is really necessary. The flaming was burning down every useful discussion.

And the addicted flamers still got a lot of space to themselves, like this thread and the Chutzpah/Opposition threads.

Yes, but this rule is a one way street. It's not a rule, it's a double standard.


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Anima, you can insult Glen Miller all you want but it has to be done in a way that doesn't disrupt the forum. Just open a thread called "Glen Miller is evil" in the opposition forum. I don't think anyone will bother you, unless you also disrupt the opposition forum by starting 100 threads about Glen Miller's evilness.

Translation: Don't insult Glenn Miller. Rest of you, carry on.


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Can a post with Miller gurgling the ever-familiar, yet always nauseating quip: " I git em all banned. hit wernt nutin. heh heh heh..." be far behind?

Heck, ban the sane guy, but don't even crack Mrs. Crabtree's ruler over the knuckles of the feebleminded defective who insults the majority of posters here. Of course, only those in triple digit-land who might might take umbrage to his 1945 Golden Pheasant impersonations on the nature of "defeatism."

This makes about as much sense as Lindstedt's horticultural practices. :rolleyes:

Just to keep things lively, I have lifted the permaban off of Prozak who has responded to his banning with absolutely constructive posts. Out of all the people banned at this forum, he is probably the only one who has responded in a manner that invites his return. Welcome back Prozak.

Translation: Don't insult Glenn Miller. Rest of you, carry on.


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That is a gross misstatement of the abuse that has been going on here.

This forum has dealt with all of the issues and controversies surrounding Miller and both sides have had their say. The final decision by Linder was that Miller was here to stay and would play as much a role as he was willing and able to in the forum, TAA, and the WFP. At that point, those who did not want to be a part of the VNN family were invited to leave and find other avenues for constructive activism, or just plain old fraternizing with like-minded individuals on other fora, such as White Revolution's Forum 14. For the most part, after the separation of WR and VNN, I think both sides wished each other well as ultimately we are fighting for the same goals- although with different methods, styles, and personalities.

The trouble-makers who would not leave and would not accept Linder's decision were doing more than just "insulting Glenn Miller." They were making it impossible for those of us who want to see this forum become a strong, tight recruiting and development tool for White Nationalists to make that happen.

Instead of coming here and being confronted by powerfully coherent discussions of the issues of White Nationalism, newbies are immersed in a sewer of sarcastic, mocking negativity by the likes of Draco and company.

In the case of Draco, Miller was only one of innumerable targets of his childish, incessant mocking. He flooded every serious discussion with his mindless contrarian one-liners and negative attitudes toward White Nationalism, White Nationalists, Linder, activism, and basically everything we believe in and are trying to accomplish here at VNN. He never offered any new or insightful criticisms that could actually be called constructive, it was always the same old nonsense from him. He publicly stated that he was trying to work against VNN and all we are trying to do. It was a lot more than just "insulting Glenn Miller" but you guys always use that technique of misstating our position before you attack it. It's because...THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT OPPOSITION TO WHITE NATIONALISM!

Can a post with Miller gurgling the ever-familiar, yet always nauseating quip: " I git em all banned. hit wernt nutin. heh heh heh..." be far behind?

Heck, ban the sane guy...

The sane guy? Are you kidding? He constantly responded to my concrete, realistic complaints about his behavior and hopes for the forum with ridiculous "zog", "day of the rope" nonsense that I have never even talked about and was not talking about at the time. He was not able to follow a normal conversation. HE was the one with his head up his ass, not the rest of us. WE are trying to accomplish something positive here, and all he ever did was mock us. Is that the way a sane guy spends his time?

THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT OPPOSITION TO WHITE NATIONALISM!

THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT OPPOSITION TO MULITCULTURALISM.

Wow. That was easy!

Just because I say it doesn't make it true. And to clarify, I think there is intelligent opposition to both said ideas.


The sane guy? Are you kidding? He constantly responded to my concrete, realistic complaints about his behavior and hopes for the forum with ridiculous "zog", "day of the rope" nonsense that I have never even talked about and was not talking about at the time.

Unless I'm mistaken, Draco didn't spam the "ACTIVISM" forums. Most of the conflict was occuring in the main forum, where flaming present in every damned thread.

Does physically exterminating the entire non-Western world sound "sane" to you? Putting bullets in their heads and dumping the bodies behind the building? Defending the rape of Russian children at the hand of Islamic militants? The blind celebration of mass death half-way across the world that in no way affects the West (actually, as Intrepid pointed out, affects the West in a NEGATIVE way). An eschatological obession with lynching god knows how many people?

Such sanity.


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The sane guy? Are you kidding? He constantly responded to my concrete, realistic complaints about his behavior and hopes for the forum with ridiculous "zog", "day of the rope" nonsense that I have never even talked about and was not talking about at the time. He was not able to follow a normal conversation. HE was the one with his head up his ass, not the rest of us. WE are trying to accomplish something positive here, and all he ever did was mock us. Is that the way a sane guy spends his time?

Ah, yes, your constant lobbing of the "Dago" motar rounds, in your exquisitely crafted posts, really clinched the argument over him. :rolleyes: Rabang's papa should be allowed to insult anyone with impunity, as well. What was I thinking?

Sorry 'bout that. My bad.

THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT OPPOSITION TO MULITCULTURALISM.

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I thought YOU were the intelligent opposition to Multi-Cult.

No, it's not true just because I say it. It's true because it states a fact.

Does physically exterminating the entire non-Western world sound "sane" to you?

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folks meet the logical fallacy known as "argumentum ad absurdum"

take a premise, extrapolate it to a ridiculous extent, use this to discredit the premise.

I thought YOU were the intelligent opposition to Multi-Cult.

No, it's not true just because I say it. It's true because it states a fact.

Both statements about WN and the multicult are opinions. They are NOT facts.


folks meet the logical fallacy known as "argumentum ad absurdum"

take a premise, extrapolate it to a ridiculous extent, use this to discredit the premise.

I'm not using it to descredit 'white nationalism'. I'm using it to show that compared to that items I listed (commonplace feelings), Draco is sane.


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Ah, yes, your constant lobbing of the "Dago" motar rounds, in your exquisitely crafted posts, really clinched the argument over him. :rolleyes: Rabang's papa should be allowed to insult anyone with impunity, as well. What was I thinking?

Sorry 'bout that. My bad.


Nobody who looks like Jeff Goldblum, Jr. needs to complain about being called a dago. He's lucky I played along with his claim of being white (Italian).

Draco was purposely working against the mission of VNN/F, Miller and I have been trying to get him banned in order to fulfill the mission of the forum. There is a difference. And if we're all so bad, why don't you go elsewhere?

...And to clarify, I think there is intelligent opposition to both said ideas.

There may be on a theoretical level, but the imperfections and shortcomings of WN don't outweigh the benefit of survival of my people, imo. White Nationalism will NOT make a perfect world, White people are NOT perfect- it will simply provide us a context in which we can strive to fulfill our destiny-however flawed it may be.

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Does physically exterminating the entire non-Western world sound "sane" to you?...
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No, but providing aware Whites with constructive channels for activism will help to ameliorate the frustration this kind of talk represents. That is what we are trying to do here. I'm the first one to say that White people need to work on ourselves, WE are part of the problem.

Both statements about WN and the multicult are opinions. They are NOT facts.
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The statement about White Nationalism is true because WN is based on facts. Multi-Cult is based on theory.

The statement about White Nationalism is true because WN is based on facts. Multi-Cult is based on theory.

The bloated corpse of multiregionalism? The butchering of Mendellian genetics? Fantasies of unreal purity?

WN may be more factual than multiculturlism in regards to behavioural plasticity, but that doesn't make it "true". There's no such thing as a "true" ideology.


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Nobody who looks like Jeff Goldblum, Jr. needs to complain about being called a dago. He's lucky I played along with his claim of being white (Italian).

Draco was purposely working against the mission of VNN/F, Miller and I have been trying to get him banned in order to fulfill the mission of the forum. There is a difference. And if we're all so bad, why don't you go elsewhere?

I'm deeply sorry, Siobhain, but just who the fuck are you again?

The bloated corpse of multiregionalism? The butchering of Mendellian genetics? Fantasies of unreal purity?

WN may be more factual than multiculturlism in regards to behavioural plasticity, but that doesn't make it "true". There's no such thing as a "true" ideology.
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I mean, the facts upon which WN is based are true. WN is based on objective reality, while multi-culturalism is based on theory and does not correspond with objective reality. Therefore, I would say that there is no intelligent opposition to White Nationalism.

I'm deeply sorry, Siobhain, but just who the fuck are you again?

I accept your apology, now run along...

I accept your apology, now run along...
:rolleyes:

I accept your apology, now run along...

Aye, aye Captain.

Perhaps all of the non-lobotomized, as well as those not inclined to other degrading displays of slavish behavior, should be keelhauled, too? Why even pretend to honest dissent being tolerated here, let alone any facade of evenhandedness? No rules were broken, yet the frazzled rent-a-cop routine still went into action. Heck, he doesn't even need to lure them into the Civil or Activist forums, now.

Whatchamasay, Siobain?

Heck, he doesn't even need to lure them into the Civil or Activist forums, now.

Apparently not. It's open season on Those Who Dare.


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My, my, my....oh, how the heathern rage.


Birds of a feather flock together, and so do Intrepid and Animal Enema flocking to their fellow anti-VNN'ers' aid (now properly secured in the opposition zoo where it belongs).

So while you kike-likes defend Draco here, you must defend his words as well, ie :

"This is why we must drop naming the jew."

"I am going after the lemmings (meaning newbees to VNN) to keep them away from the "movement" (meaning VNN, the tabloid project, and the WFP); thus hopefully starving the asylum inmates (meaning all VNN'ers who support VNN productively) to death so something new can talk hold (something new he fails to tell)"

"My essay on why the "movement" must be dismantled (including VNN and all VNN projects and the WFP), in order to save our Race."

OK Intrepid and Animal Enema, don't be bashful. Jump right in and tell us why you defend Draco's DEFEATIST bullshit.

(Watch them slither around with vague, ambiguous, goobily gop jibberish while refusing to comment on the Draco quotes, and instead changing the subject and spewing out personal insults - like I said all along, they're kike-like)

"This is why we must drop naming the jew."

That's his opinion. I'm not sure if I entirely agree, but what exactly is your point with this? People have their own approach to things.

I'm all for sensible anti-semitism.


"I am going after the lemmings (meaning newbees to VNN) to keep them away from the "movement" (meaning VNN, the tabloid project, and the WFP); thus hopefully starving the asylum inmates (meaning all VNN'ers who support VNN productively) to death so something new can talk hold (something new he fails to tell)"

You're putting words in his mouth via parenthesis.


"My essay on why the "movement" must be dismantled (including VNN and all VNN projects and the WFP), in order to save our Race."

See above.



and instead changing the subject and spewing out personal insults

Looked in the mirror recently?

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Apparently not. It's open season on Those Who Dare.


.. Open season on gooks ???

MARGE !!!!!!!! Bring my freakin shotgun, break out my cammies and beret, pour me a shot of Southern Comfort, and put "Dixie" on high volume. Me and the boys are gonna do a little night riding. It's Redneck pay-back time !!!!

It's Redneck pay-back time !!!!

Oh noes!

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Open season on gooks ???

MARGE !!!!!!!! Bring my freakin shotgun, break out my cammies and beret, pour me a shot of Southern Comfort, and put "Dixie" on high volume. Me and the boys are gonna do a little night riding. It's Redneck pay-back time !!!!

Include that one in your campaign speech, Miller. You'll make a clean sweep from your fellow cons in the penitentiary in Jefferson City. They are in your congressional district, right?

Ride on, Herr Toothless!!!!

Draco asked me to post this, since he can't seem to post right now (moderation maybe? I dunno):

Draco sez, "Even in death he still owns VNNF as evident by the fact his name is on everyones lips. Don't you, the childless, marginally employed plagiarist 38 year old living in grannies basement and the inbred bisexual drunks have a race to "liberate"?

Does this count as a serious post for you? :confused:

Man, that is fucking nasty. Sounds like his bud Norcal.Could very well be Norcal.Sharing the Draco username, maybe?

"Even in death he still owns VNNF as evident by the fact his name is on everyones lips. Don't you, the childless, marginally employed plagiarist 38 year old living in grannies basement and the inbred bisexual drunks have a race to "liberate"?

See, didn't I tell you he was petty? :D Looks like the lawyer in training isn't happy. Maybe the little bitch should practice what he fucking preaches, and pay no attention to the world outside of his family. Instead, people like him and Intrepid feel at home wallowing in their own ego, acting like a child starved for attention who resorts to lashing out at everyone/thing with their fucking keyboards, all the while making sarcasm useless because they fucking use it so much. And then get bitchy when, god forbid, people think the threads are better without their thoughtful and ever-so civil input.

I disagree. I'm 20 years old and its possible for us young'uns to be rational and polite, even if we disagree with someone or someone's ideas. Draco IS really fucking smart, maybe too smart considering what a masochist he is, but the problem is that he's such smart-ass prick. The impression he gives me is some rich kid who doesn't know what its like to struggle in life, who revels is causing shit and making fun of everything. That personality isn't really appealing, and tends to dissolve threads into stupid flame wars that go no where.

Bottom line is that he thrives on the conflict. Some people are just like that. I don't like them, and can't really blame anyone else for getting fed up with it. No one likes a snotty brat.

They're two different people; on opposite coasts, as a matter of fact. Linder and AE were thought to be the same person by many, but it isn't so.

Draco is a smart kid. He made some valid criticisms, and then things snowballed. He's since said things that were gratuitous; snotty. He and Anima do have egos (they're about 20 yrs old), and they do like to have the last word, but I'd have to say Draco being banished to Opp is a sign of weakness; a sign that the admin feels threatened by him.

What these boys are saying now is true, Miller consistently shitcans anyone who questions his authority or methodology. There is a double standard here.

Well put. Also the exchange below is a classic.

See, didn't I tell you he was petty? Looks like the lawyer in training isn't happy. Maybe the little bitch should practice what he fucking preaches, and pay no attention to the world outside of his family. Instead, people like him and Intrepid feel at home wallowing in their own ego, acting like a child starved for attention who resorts to lashing out at everyone/thing with their fucking keyboards, all the while making sarcasm useless because they fucking use it so much. And then get bitchy when, god forbid, people think the threads are better without their thoughtful and ever-so civil input.

Originally Posted by Draco
"Even in death he still owns VNNF as evident by the fact his name is on everyones lips. Don't you, the childless, marginally employed plagiarist 38 year old living in grannies basement and the inbred bisexual drunks have a race to "liberate"?




Thank You, AE!
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Originally Posted by Anima Eternae
Translation: Don't insult Glenn Miller. Rest of you, carry on.


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That is a gross misstatement of the abuse that has been going on here.

This forum has dealt with all of the issues and controversies surrounding Miller and both sides have had their say. The final decision by Linder was that Miller was here to stay and would play as much a role as he was willing and able to in the forum, TAA, and the WFP. At that point, those who did not want to be a part of the VNN family were invited to leave and find other avenues for constructive activism, or just plain old fraternizing with like-minded individuals on other fora, such as White Revolution's Forum 14. For the most part, after the separation of WR and VNN, I think both sides wished each other well as ultimately we are fighting for the same goals- although with different methods, styles, and personalities.

The trouble-makers who would not leave and would not accept Linder's decision were doing more than just "insulting Glenn Miller." They were making it impossible for those of us who want to see this forum become a strong, tight recruiting and development tool for White Nationalists to make that happen.

Instead of coming here and being confronted by powerfully coherent discussions of the issues of White Nationalism, newbies are immersed in a sewer of sarcastic, mocking negativity by the likes of Draco and company.

In the case of Draco, Miller was only one of innumerable targets of his childish, incessant mocking. He flooded every serious discussion with his mindless contrarian one-liners and negative attitudes toward White Nationalism, White Nationalists, Linder, activism, and basically everything we believe in and are trying to accomplish here at VNN. He never offered any new or insightful criticisms that could actually be called constructive, it was always the same old nonsense from him. He publicly stated that he was trying to work against VNN and all we are trying to do. It was a lot more than just "insulting Glenn Miller" but you guys always use that technique of misstating our position before you attack it. It's because...THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT OPPOSITION TO WHITE NATIONALISM!

They're two different people; on opposite coasts, as a matter of fact. Linder and AE were thought to be the same person by many, but it isn't so.

Draco is a smart kid. He made some valid criticisms, and then things snowballed. He's since said things that were gratuitous; snotty. He and Anima do have egos (they're about 20 yrs old), and they do like to have the last word, but I'd have to say Draco being banished to Opp is a sign of weakness; a sign that the admin feels threatened by him.

What these boys are saying now is true, Miller consistently shitcans anyone who questions his authority or methodology. There is a double standard here.

Lets keep things in perspective, shall we?

1) Miller didn't "shitcan" the little jewish kid, AE did.

2) The little jewish kid has consistently disrupted threads and insulted the owner of this board with some of the most loathsome, disgusting language I have ever seen.

3) We post here on Linders dime. In spite of what you may think we are not entitled to anything here other than what "himself" says we are for the simple reason he owns the place.

4) Why Linder let that little squirt post here as long as he did is beyond me. It just shows how much patience the man has but like anything else, it can wear thin.

Good riddence to the punk!

What these boys are saying now is true, Miller consistently shitcans anyone who questions his authority or methodology. There is a double standard here.

Yes, it's not a "no flaming" rule. It's a "no flaming MILLER" rule. Christ. As if the man can't handle himself....


Instead, people like him and Intrepid feel at home wallowing in their own ego, acting like a child starved for attention who resorts to lashing out at everyone/thing with their fucking keyboards, all the while making sarcasm useless because they fucking use it so much. And then get bitchy when, god forbid, people think the threads are better without their thoughtful and ever-so civil input.

Since when has Intrepid been "lashing out" and "disrupting"? He (and I) seem to get flack because we defended Draco. Yes, Draco could have controlled himself and been a bit more in control. But so could have the entire damned parade. Singling him out is bullshit, regardless of what you think of him. Sure, every thread Draco mentioned and insulted Miller, but at the same time, Miller did the same damn thing. Not just with Draco, but with Intrepid and yours truly, when we had not even been discussing him.

My skepticism gets compounded into "jew defending" and "disruptive" by Miller. Yawn...

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See, didn't I tell you he was petty? :D Looks like the lawyer in training isn't happy. Maybe the little bitch should practice what he fucking preaches, and pay no attention to the world outside of his family. Instead, people like him and Intrepid feel at home wallowing in their own ego, acting like a child starved for attention who resorts to lashing out at everyone/thing with their fucking keyboards, all the while making sarcasm useless because they fucking use it so much. And then get bitchy when, god forbid, people think the threads are better without their thoughtful and ever-so civil input.

Ah, come on, youngun'. Surely you can come up with better Psych 101 trick than the clumsy one you've decided to employ here. Apparently, you're blind to the fact that the veneer of fair play has been ripped off today.

Now, take this part very sloooowly, m'kay? The other combatant, Miller, doesn't even receive the "Please get off the kitchen table, Glenn, and take the dog poop wit ya" that he was chastised with in his youth. Notice any glaring inconsistencies?

To be quite honest, if anything, chapter 13 in your lil' book excluded, I'm "anti-Stupid." See, that's where the federal convict comes into play. Just a wild guess, but I'd venture to say that comprehension of the various nuances of Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence have never been your forte, eh, Junior?

First, I've hardly ever seen one post by Intrepid that wasn't ragging on someone or wasn't showing himself to be a completely hostile smart ass. I never had problems with him, and in fact tried to get along with him (even asked if he wanted to meet up at a Jason Boland show), its his smug-ass attitude, like Draco's, that annoys the living shit out of me. Regardless of whether or not I think his posts are funny as hell (usually do), I can't stand that constant bullshit.

And I will concede, Miller is guilty of egging it on and sometimes bringing it on himself. In fact, I don't think he's a very good choice for running for office representing the WFP, considering his legal problems with the Order guys. I, however, RESPECT Miller, so I don't talk shit everytime I see a post of his because I disagree with some things about him. it takes balls to be the leader of a group thats as reviled as the KKK. Intrepid and Draco, despite all my attempts, have given me no reason to respect them. They don't act like how I feel people who call themselves Aryan should act. They're insecure and petty, with repulsively negative attitudes to boot.

Of course, I'm big on courtesy and respect. Others prolly feel different, but I think those two things are important aspects to acting and living White, and two VERY fundamental aspects to being a National Socialist. White racist doesn't equal asshole.


Yes, it's not a "no flaming" rule. It's a "no flaming MILLER" rule. Christ. As if the man can't handle himself....




Since when has Intrepid been "lashing out" and "disrupting"? He (and I) seem to get flack because we defended Draco. Yes, Draco could have controlled himself and been a bit more in control. But so could have the entire damned parade. Singling him out is bullshit, regardless of what you think of him. Sure, every thread Draco mentioned and insulted Miller, but at the same time, Miller did the same damn thing. Not just with Draco, but with Intrepid and yours truly, when we had not even been discussing him.

My skepticism gets compounded into "jew defending" and "disruptive" by Miller. Yawn...

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Of course, I'm big on courtesy and respect. Others prolly feel different, but I think those two things are important aspects to acting and living White, and two VERY fundamental aspects to being a National Socialist. White racist doesn't equal asshole.

Yes, I suppose I could forgive "Glenn" for being an asshole to me. After all, vitriol is a prerequisite for interacting with "muds" (even higher IQ ones) or whatever the current WN jingoistic term de jour is.

But if there's one thing he's consistent on, it's his assholery. Notice how he insults virtually everyone, and then begs for donations? That's not how you solicit for funds. I don't know who Kievsky (sp?) is, but in his first (?) interaction with Miller, Miller managed to call him a "coward" because the man stated his family was his priority.

In regards to me, thanks for your kind words. Glad you're not one of the assholes. ;)

Though, I've definately had my quabbles with Intrepid before (understatement), I'm glad he seems to have common sense and a healthy revulsion for lowbrow behaviour.

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Wow Intrepid, thanks for proving me right.

Anyways---I was stating my personal opinions, not some psych BS. I speak for no one but myself. Give me another reason to think otherwise, and I will. I'm open-minded. I used to like you, actually, until I realized that 90% of your posts that I happened to stumble upon were typical 'net forum intellectual posturing bullshit.

Aren't you being a tad dramatic? I'm no Miller fan, read my reply to Anima.

And what the fuck does the jurisprudence of anglo-saxons have to do with you being complete prick? I never knew that you had to be an asshole to be a WASP.


Ah, come on, youngun'. Surely you can come up with better Psych 101 trick than the clumsy one you've decided to employ here. Apparently, you're blind to the fact that the veneer of fair play has been ripped off today.

Now, take this part very sloooowly, m'kay? The other combatant, Miller, doesn't even receive the "Please get off the kitchen table, Glenn, and take the dog poop wit ya" that he was chastised with in his youth. Notice any glaring inconsistencies?

To be quite honest, if anything, chapter 13 in your lil' book excluded, I'm "anti-Stupid." See, that's where the federal convict comes into play. Just a wild guess, but I'd venture to say that comprehension of the various nuances of Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence have never been your forte, eh, Junior?

Originally Posted by SheerTerror
Wow Intrepid, thanks for proving me right.
Anyways---I was stating my personal opinions, not some psych BS.

Hey, no problemo. To be honest, I've thought there were 4 bright younger posters here, superfluous of who I think is a good guy or not & the fact that none of you show signs of being under the care of medical professionals: You, Draco, Anima and King Tiger. Being that I've never had a cursive word for you, I'm a tad surprised with this shit (yes, it's kiddy-kike Psych crap):

...people like him and Intrepid feel at home wallowing in their own ego, acting like a child starved for attention who resorts to lashing out at everyone/thing with their fucking keyboards...They're insecure and petty, with repulsively negative attitudes to boot.

Again, if you think I'm a negative SOB, fine. I've no idea where the insecure child crap is flowing from? Most people here aren't capable of rational discourse, hence my sarcasm. This ain't Pennemunde stuff, Texan.

I speak for no one but myself. Give me another reason to think otherwise, and I will. I'm open-minded. I used to like you, actually, until I realized that 90% of your posts that I happened to stumble upon were typical 'net forum intellectual posturing bullshit.

Define this intellectual posturing I employ. Maybe it just me, but when I see a cavalcade of any the following: insane conspiracy theories, joyous outburts over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, or Jews behind every malady since the dawn of man, well, I'll typically comment on its ludicrous nature as well as the author behind it. Humor is an effective medium for this, at least for me. Effectively barbed satire is much more effective motivator of men than the average, dry tome sitting on your shelf. Don't believe me? Ask Linder. Scatology inferences & Jewbus BJs aside he can occasionally put the puck in the net.

Aren't you being a tad dramatic? I'm no Miller fan, read my reply to Anima.

And what the fuck does the jurisprudence of anglo-saxons have to do with you being complete prick? I never knew that you had to be an asshole to be a WASP.

I didn't accuse you of being umbilically attached, like so many others, to Miller. I think you missed the double standard mentioned by DH. When he's not lashing out at his imaginary ZOG pinata, he's insulting people here by the dozens. Hence my convoluted reference to justice, at least in general terms.

Two questions: 1) Do you think there is a double standard present here? 2) If so, do believe this behavior is fair?

Me being a prick, well, I can't change that. I was the bigger one when I was your age, too.

It wasn't about insulting Miller. You know that, mongoloid cowboy. Draco is confined to the opposition because he constantly sabotaged pro-white activity. Which is allowed in the opposition forum but not in the main forums.

Does this count as a serious post for you? :confused:
Probably not. It's just me doing a favor that I was asked to do, nothing more.

How outrageous to demand "tolerance" and "fair play" for non-whites and antis on a forum devoted to building White Nationalism.

This board is for White people who want to discuss White issues, not for non-whites and antis and little boys trying to compensate.

The tolerance of White people has led us to be saddled with stone-age, missing-link niggers and ridden by supremacist jews.

The tolerance and fair play demanded of Whites is always a one-way street. There is no pay off for Whites in throwing our pearls to the swine, non-whites and disloyal white antis never allow WNs room to breathe outside of the few sites we have to ourselves and then they march on here demanding equal time.

Just like the nigger who will never pay back the White man for rescuing him from the jungle and giving him the comforts of civilization, antis and lemmings never allow racially aware Whites to voice their opinions on their sites.

Let's not fall for this trick again, White people. Tolerance and Fair Play are in-group values that we don't extend to outsiders.

Another excellent post, siobhain.

That the jews can still do as they like in the opposition forum is an example of Aryan hospitality to even those that want to enslave and murder the Aryans.

I know of no mainstream = jewish forum where pro-Aryan posting is tolerated.

You're a tough guy to flame with, thats for sure. Now that I've slept and not in such a bad mood, I think the discourse will go a lot smoother. First, I apologize for the name calling.

Hey, no problemo. To be honest, I've thought there were 4 bright younger posters here, superfluous of who I think is a good guy or not & the fact that none of you show signs of being under the care of medical professionals: You, Draco, Anima and King Tiger. Being that I've never had a cursive word for you, I'm a tad surprised with this shit (yes, it's kiddy-kike Psych crap):

Thanks for the kind words, you seem pretty sane yourself. As for kiddie-psych crap, this is just my honest impression I got.

Again, if you think I'm a negative SOB, fine. I've no idea where the insecure child crap is flowing from? Most people here aren't capable of rational discourse, hence my sarcasm. This ain't Pennemunde stuff, Texan.

Again, this is the impression I get. The insecure child stuff is a bit exagerated, but it isn't exagerated when I say that 90% of the posts I read by you on a regular basis are flames. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong spots, but it seems that you only feel the need to reply to someone if you can make them look stupid somehow. You're like a more capable Draco. And you have the vocabulary he wishes he had. :D

Define this intellectual posturing I employ. Maybe it just me, but when I see a cavalcade of any the following: insane conspiracy theories, joyous outburts over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, or Jews behind every malady since the dawn of man, well, I'll typically comment on its ludicrous nature as well as the author behind it. Humor is an effective medium for this, at least for me. Effectively barbed satire is much more effective motivator of men than the average, dry tome sitting on your shelf. Don't believe me? Ask Linder. Scatology inferences & Jewbus BJs aside he can occasionally put the puck in the net.

I can see where you're coming from on this one. Not all the conspiracy theories are insane, tho. Remember, these people actually pushed to have unlimited spic immigration; they're probably capable if being even shittier people. Just read some Kevin MacDonald. Its not really insane, its true. Whether Jews are genetically inclined to be horrible little anti-humans or if they hold super-secret ZOG-meetings about the destruction of the White race doesn't matter. They still don't belong in any country except their own. And yes, as I've said plenty of times, Whites are equally responsible for our fine mess. Who LET them get away with all their materialistic moralising and power grabbing? It was established long before America, in every country in Europe, that Jews are less than honorable people. For some reason, we didn't listen.

And yeah, I'll definitely agree on humor. Thats what made me read Linder, and it actually changed my political beliefs, and a lot of things I never even thought about. In fact, besides Metzger, Linder's the only WN figure head thats worth a damn. But when flaming, you shouldn't use the same weapon over and over.

I didn't accuse you of being umbilically attached, like so many others, to Miller. I think you missed the double standard mentioned by DH. When he's not lashing out at his imaginary ZOG pinata, he's insulting people here by the dozens. Hence my convoluted reference to justice, at least in general terms.

Two questions: 1) Do you think there is a double standard present here? 2) If so, do believe this behavior is fair?

Me being a prick, well, I can't change that. I was the bigger one when I was your age, too.

1) Yes, I believe if Draco wasn't flaming Rounder, this might not have happened. In fact, I'm suprised Miller was being so childish about it. But Draco is guilty of plenty of childish behavior as well, and actively started the flaming sessions and disrupted more threads than Miller. Hell, Draco even talks shit about Linder and for some reason posts on his board. If you don't like someone, or think we're all stupid, you shouldn't spend so much time here. And if Draco feels that way, the only reason he could have to post here is to start shit.
2) If anything, I think they both should have gotten banned for a week, or maybe just gotten a warning. Its not like thats some horrible punishment, the Opp forum can be pretty fun afterall.

Anyways, thanks for replying in a not-so-condescending way and proving me wrong about you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/jaynareynolds/dranobanned.bmp

Youth and ego can be a bad combination sometimes.
Draco was given dozens of instances to leave it as just another debate or disagreement. Hell, they even flamed each other for about a whole month.
Draco brought it upon himself by not just disagreeing or flaming Rounder and the active projects, but because he was just an asshole about it all.

And it wasn't just one or 2 times. Kid was really aching to get 'banned' to opposition. Like norcal, draco wants to play the hero or martyr card.
Little martyrs in their own minds.
Jesus, it is just a cyber forum afterall. You'd think people would try to at least get along, work together.
But no, as is too often the LCD rulez the day.

Palatine Creator said it best :'the VNNF is moving into a more real world activist mindset and this loses its entertainment value for some people' ....something along those lines, sorry if I misquoted you PC.

One thing that shines through in draco is that love him or hate him, just don't ignore him. So, you can conclude that all he really wants is attention.

I don't see the double standard on Rounder either. Lots of people in the last year have come on and made their points about Rounder and his past.
Even people have disagreed with the TAA and WFP.....but why is it so damn hard to disagree in a civil way?

NO one will be banned just dor seeing things differently! Hell, people have actively flamed on here for a year....it takes someone really pushing the envelope to get kicked off. Norcal, draco...examples. They wanted to get banned because it's better to get axed that standup and be the bigger man and admit a mistake or try to tone htigns done for a bit.
It's really so simple.
I really don't a fuck about these people anyway. You want norcal? go to Nordish portal...draco's there as well. what's funny is that they have formed a nice bond over there and it's amusing to see draco (who was never a pro-Nord/pro-NS poster on VNN) run with the pack of the pro-NSers!

You'd think he would be critical of such an extreme ideology since he was so here on the VNN.
At the end of the day, just another kid out for a few laughs on the internet.

I just hope others can sometimes check their egos as well....
Let's at least agree to disagree in a decent manner

Sure, Dopplehaken.
You make a very valid point. You've always been one of the best most productive and rational posters on here.
But people have brought up Miller for many months now.

Some may like him, some may not.
He basically was the whole issue during the WR drama last month or so.
I'm actually tired of hearing about him.

Alex says he going to work with him on some projects.
Fine.
But there is more going on VNN than just Rounder.
At least there should be.....

........I'm still willing to consider there's more to Miller based on White Will's experience with him.

Can anyone ask for more than that?

Well, for starters, all the glory days stuff aside, he came up with a ready, willing and able printer for the tabloid, which was an accomplishment in itself considering that printers dont necessarily "jump" at the opportunity to draw jewish negative attention to themselves.

Secondly, he got a great price for the tabloid job. Not bad.

Thirdly, he helped finance it out of his military retirement pension. Not bad.

Fourthly, he got the first one laid out and printed and picked it up like a deliveryman. And the second (1-b) Linder laid out and Miller picked it up. Free.

Fifthly, he took in a bunch of orders, filled them. Free. We could have hired a girl to do that for $8 an hour of course, but we're not exactly swimming in a big budget are we?

Sixthly, he ate a lot of crow and took a lot of shit from people he didnt know, and put on a "show" or whatever the hell people want to call it, that drew a ton of eyeballs to the projects and the banner.

Seventh, he's hanging in there and willing to do it again.

Results-- great results for VNN. I like those results more than every one of his posts rolled together.

Rounder is like a drunken oaf, stumbling across the forum, insulting any who dares disagree with him. He seems to have a hell of a harder time staying civil than anyone else.

Draco isn't the victim here. Neither is Rounder.


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I find Rounder's ability to stay civil remarkable when I see how much crap is thrown at him by the synagogue crowd.

But again, Draco's confinement to his own little cesspool has nothing to do with insulting Rounder. It has to do with Draco sabotaging the working of the forum. If he would have plastered the forum with thousands of swastika's he would have been shown the door out too.

Read his book. :) That is the best way to get to know him and to judge his character.

When Rounder posted an extract of his book in the forum, I was very impressed with it because I liked the old Freikorps stories of German soldiers in the 1920s and the part of Mein Kampf relating to the struggle in the Great War and the early 1920s. In fact it was the only forumthread I ever saved on my harddisk.

The results Miller has produced are as indicated. No mysteries there, However yes I have seen up close and personal some of the difficulties and costs authors and publishers who dare criticize the jew get subjected to. Such as....

When it comes to "print" media, one of the big chokepoints, are Printers. Those businesses that get the books or periodicals off the computer and onto bound paper. Printing presses are expensive capital. Expensive capital gets financed with loans. Businesses pay the loans with customers. Businesses dont want to take on one small customer that is going to scare the other big customers away. Hence, it's damn hard to find printers who are willing to lose big customers for little ones. I know authors of magazines and books that are ten or more times LESS "offensive" than TAA material who have had printers refuse to fill orders and break long-standing business relationships because the word "jews" came up. Getting TAA printed in a quality manner at this cost, is impressive to me. In all sincerity, I have wanted to see Alex get this get done for a long time, and I was not able to come up with those results myself or I would have.

That is what impresses me about Miller. Results. Instead of saying why it CANT be done, he shows how it can be done; and where getting the tabloid printed was concerned, it DID get done.

Anyhow, I understand why some people are skeptical. That's fine. Stick around and see if other results are forthcoming and try to keep and open mind.

I'm actually tired of hearing about him.
Thank god, I'm not the only one.

But there is more going on VNN than just Rounder.
At least there should be.....
Yes. Otherwise, that asshat Marty-boy would be correct in calling VNNF "TGMNN" (or whatever abbreviation he used).

/mother mode on

If VNNF is heading more strongly towards serious activism, and trying to get more people involved/on the forum via the tabloid, then the key people on the forum need to stop acting like the rest of us. :p

Seriously, that means Miller, Linder (though I've not seen any of that behavior from him) and the moderators. It's one thing for us regular posters to flame each other and act like jerks, but it's another when the people in charge are acting that way as well.

I know Miller is technically only the clerk for the tabloid, but that doesn't really matter, seeing as how he is one of the key promoters of it. New people coming to the forum are very likely consider him a prominent figure; therefore, he needs to refrain from the petty flaming that the rest of us engage in.

/mother mode off

Probably not. It's just me doing a favor that I was asked to do, nothing more.If he still wants to sign on, you should remind him that once you obtain the "Hates White People" title, your user name has 3 periods after it.

So he has to sign in like this:

user name: Draco...
password: xxxxxx

I'd hug you for that post, but Varg might get mad. :D

Seriously tho, great post.

Thank god, I'm not the only one.

Yes. Otherwise, that asshat Marty-boy would be correct in calling VNNF "TGMNN" (or whatever abbreviation he used).

/mother mode on

If VNNF is heading more strongly towards serious activism, and trying to get more people involved/on the forum via the tabloid, then the key people on the forum need to stop acting like the rest of us. :p

Seriously, that means Miller, Linder (though I've not seen any of that behavior from him) and the moderators. It's one thing for us regular posters to flame each other and act like jerks, but it's another when the people in charge are acting that way as well.

I know Miller is technically only the clerk for the tabloid, but that doesn't really matter, seeing as how he is one of the key promoters of it. New people coming to the forum are very likely consider him a prominent figure; therefore, he needs to refrain from the petty flaming that the rest of us engage in.

/mother mode off

If he still wants to sign on, you should remind him that once you obtain the "Hates White People" title, your user name has 3 periods after it.

So he has to sign in like this:

user name: Draco...
password: xxxxxx
Thanks for the info on that, I would never have known that otherwise. I'll be sure to pass that on, if he doesn't read it here first.

/mother mode on


/mother mode offI thought you weren't a fan of kids? Have you finally seen the light?

Atta girl! :D

I thought you weren't a fan of kids? Have you finally seen the light?

Atta girl! :D
LOL, halfway through writing that post I realized that I sounded exactly like my mother. :eek: So I figured it might be a good idea to throw that in there.

Thank god, I'm not the only one.

Yes. Otherwise, that asshat Marty-boy would be correct in calling VNNF "TGMNN" (or whatever abbreviation he used).

/mother mode on

If VNNF is heading more strongly towards serious activism, and trying to get more people involved/on the forum via the tabloid, then the key people on the forum need to stop acting like the rest of us. :p

Seriously, that means Miller, Linder (though I've not seen any of that behavior from him) and the moderators. It's one thing for us regular posters to flame each other and act like jerks, but it's another when the people in charge are acting that way as well.

I know Miller is technically only the clerk for the tabloid, but that doesn't really matter, seeing as how he is one of the key promoters of it. New people coming to the forum are very likely consider him a prominent figure; therefore, he needs to refrain from the petty flaming that the rest of us engage in.

/mother mode off

I always knew you were more than just a gorgeous gal, with a sweet though intellectual personality, and a keen wit. Figured all that out by yourself too, I'll wager.

But you see Pixi, I have one reason for being on this forum, and one reason only - which is to promote ACTIVISMS. Presently, there are 80-plus VNN'ers who contribute to VNN's only ACTIVISM, the tabloid newspaper project. And so I kinda like them. The rest ? Well, you already know what I think of them.

Now about these flame wars. I agree with A.E. on the subject. So long as they don't interrupt threads containing serious discussions, then hey let um rip. It's good to let off steam; they sharpen debating skills, and let's face it, we enjoy them a bit. Kinda like soccermoms enjoy soap opera gossiping. This is a FREE SPEECH forum per Alex Linder's policy. Therefore, barring a change in policy, the newbees will just have to get used to it. (BTW, we've gained about 600 new members since we began distributing tabloid newspapers which advertised VNN's 2 websites).

I'm not leader. Too damn old and worn out for that. Just not enough get-up-and-go energy left in me to be a good one, anyhow. And I don't do anything half-assed. 20 years in the Army taught me that.

Two things provoke my wrath, (1) DEFEATISM, and (2) Personal insults. Those who reframe from those, will get along with me just fine. And besides, like you say, I'm just the tabloid clerk, anyhow.

Two things provoke my wrath, (1) DEFEATISM, and Personal insults. Those who reframe from those, will get along with me just fine. And besides, like you say, I'm just the tabloid clerk, anyhow.

HA! Whenever someone gives trumps you in a debate....it seems you have a tendency towards hypocrisy.

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I always knew you were more than just a gorgeous gal, with a sweet though intellectual personality, and a keen wit. Figured all that out by yourself too, I'll wager.LOL Rounder why do you always cyber-hit on Pixi? First off, SHE'S VARG'S GIRL SO BACK OFF.

Secondly, aren't you like twice as old as her and married as well?

Isn't rounder pushing 60? That would make him almost thrice her age.

Dude's a moron.


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HA! Whenever someone gives trumps you in a debate....it seems you have a tendency towards hypocrisy.

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Nah, he has never lost a debate here, don'cha know? One thing that strikes me as particularly funny, though, is his change in deportment when he vacillates between mere tabloid clerk to the power behind the throne. What a site the latter is, I'll tell you. Miller perched on his keg throne in the front yard, pendulous man-boobs in plain view for passers-by. Amongest the beer cans, bald tires & rusting hulk accented environs, he's ordering imaginary paramilitary units with his Star Wars light saber.

"Oh glory haze," he stammers, as he's unable to grasp the last can of Old Milwaukee from under the carcass of what used to be the family pet, Himmler the Golden Lab. Ol' Himer' just didn't understand the Jewish question that day...

It wasn't about insulting Miller. You know that, mongoloid cowboy. Draco is confined to the opposition because he constantly sabotaged pro-white activity. Which is allowed in the opposition forum but not in the main forums.

Well, Pim, you sure are full of piss 'n vinegar, aren't you? I'm gettin' the full treatment in the racial epithets department all over the forum from you. Obviously, I'm no match for your rhetorical 26-cannon broadsides, so I'll quit with my pro-ZOG message right now.

One recommendation, though. Wait, here, let me lean way over so you can hear me: If you jump as hard as you can, while placing special emphasis on the use of your hamstrings, you just might touch your Fuehrer Miller's SS M44 camo smock. Of course, if he's already sent the lock of hair to place under your Euro Disney embroidered pillow, well, forget the above.

Bye, Pim

Your pal,

Intrepid

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/jaynareynolds/rick01.jpg

/me shakes her head

But Anima doesn't look at all like that.

/me shakes her head

But Anima doesn't look at all like that.

Don't lie to Brutus, Pixi. He doesn't like liers. He's omnipotent in his own mind, at least thats what the folks behind the high counter at his local Walgreens told me.

Don't lie to Brutus, Pixi. He doesn't like liers. He's omnipotent in his own mind, at least thats what the folks behind the high counter at his local Walgreens told me.
Dear me, Walgreens?

Tsk tsk tsk.

CVS for me. :D

/me shakes her head

But Anima doesn't look at all like that.

Actually that is me! Those pics I sent you I scanned from GQ! :D

Oh and Brutus, I guess this means our civil discourse is over. :(

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I'm embarrassed to admit that I once thought the author of this tripe was a White man with sympathies and opinions similar to those of this forum.
What was it Sheer Terror said? "He makes sarcasm useless through his sheer over-use of it."

Drapid the Vapid,
What a canting, crawdadding, jew-sucking jackass you come off as, defender of western noir.
Like your pals, you don't like for folks to speak ill of the jew. Bad policy you say; it never worked, never will. You don't seem to like to see Whites organize either. You just like flaming and you're a ponderous bore at that.
This forum is one of the few places in the world where folks CAN speak truthfully about the bloodthirsty bastards. That freedom is central to what we are here for.
What the hell are you doing here?


Well, Pim, you sure are full of piss 'n vinegar, aren't you? I'm gettin' the full treatment in the racial epithets department all over the forum from you. Obviously, I'm no match for your rhetorical 26-cannon broadsides, so I'll quit with my pro-ZOG message right now.

One recommendation, though. Wait, here, let me lean way over so you can hear me: If you jump as hard as you can, while placing special emphasis on the use of your hamstrings, you just might touch your Fuehrer Miller's SS M44 camo smock. Of course, if he's already sent the lock of hair to place under your Euro Disney embroidered pillow, well, forget the above.

Bye, Pim

Your pal,

Intrepid

Actually that is me! Those pics I sent you I scanned from GQ! :D
/me spits out her KoolAid after looking at Anima's location

Going for the more experienced woman, eh? ;)

/me spits out her KoolAid after looking at Anima's location

Going for the more experienced woman, eh? ;)

Yes, for satisfaction of the primal Alpha male urge to say: Ah banged yer dawter!

In all seriousness, you don't get to use "bang" twice in a sentence (being a verb and proper noun). The lure was irresistable! Oh, and Intrepid isn't being himself recently. The ZOG nanobots in his bloodstream are malfunctioning, and he's due for a trip to ZOGBASE under the Earth's crust for a repair. ;)


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Actually that is me! Those pics I sent you I scanned from GQ! :D

Oh and Brutus, I guess this means our civil discourse is over. :(

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Rounder's top two lieutenants, Steve B and Brutus, are top-notch photo shop experts and animated gif hunters. Beware....

Yes, for satisfaction of the primal Alpha male urge to say: Ah banged yer dawter!
LOL, I have yet to meet a guy who was brave enough to say that to my dad. :eek:

Oh and Brutus, I guess this means our civil discourse is over

Of course not!

I'm just busting chops. Please, don't anyone take that personal. :)

I'm trying to lighten it up a little in here.

I think that I must be entering the "illustrator phase" of my life.....as with any new endeavor, the first attempts may be crude and halting and off the mark just a bit.

I'm asking you to be patient and give me some time to blossom.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I once thought the author of this tripe was a White man with sympathies and opinions similar to those of this forum.
What was it Sheer Terror said? "He makes sarcasm useless through his sheer over-use of it."

Drapid the Vapid,
What a canting, crawdadding, jew-sucking jackass you come off as, defender of western noir.
Like your pals, you don't like for folks to speak ill of the jew. Bad policy you say; it never worked, never will. You don't seem to like to see Whites organize either. You just like flaming and you're a ponderous bore at that.
This forum is one of the few places in the world where folks CAN speak truthfully about the bloodthirsty bastards. That freedom is central to what we are here for.
What the hell are you doing here?

Wow, a "canting, crawdadding, jew-sucking jackass," eh? How vivid. I imagine you've been saving that Aristotlian gem just for me. How kind of you. Your tired, droll witticisms fall horribly flat, once again, Cooter. To be preached to over flaming by the likes of you, well, is beyond the realm of comedy. Actually, let us get down to the brass tacks of your blatant slander:

- Where have I ever praised Jewish/Israeli malfeasance here?

- Where have I ever said Whites shouldn't organize here?

- Where have I ever stated you shouldn't discuss Jewish machinations and double-standards here?

Being that you can't - without employing gross, childish (shall I say, Millerish) distortions - prove a solitary point, I'll allow you to crawl back in your hole without further adieu. I'll leave out my opinions of your penchant for crack-pot ideas, out of kindness.

As far your emboldened query: I'm a racially conscious White man. Last I checked, there were few outlets where I could state my true opinions on such subjects.

You're fucking stupid too. I suspected that you might invite me to point out you kikeliness. Sure, glad to oblige. Here's a dab to start with:

Who claims a condo in Israel?

Thanks. I'm rather slow, so I appreciate your random act of kindness. You're catching on, eh? After all, I've a condo in the place you so cavalierly deride as the "bandit state," so why would I want harm to come to my investment? Surely you understand the quandry I'm in, no?

Who agrees with Keystone?

I hate to say it, but I'm in concord with Keystone - again - on the "Aryan" issue. The Jews & the Left have won this propaganda battle already.

Maybe it just me, but when I see a cavalcade of any the following: insane conspiracy theories, joyous outburts over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, or Jews behind every malady since the dawn of man, well, I'll typically comment on its ludicrous nature as well as the author behind it.

Whether Jews are genetically inclined to be horrible little anti-humans or if they hold super-secret ZOG-meetings about the destruction of the White race doesn't matter.




Wow, a "canting, crawdadding, jew-sucking jackass," eh? How vivid. I imagine you've been saving that Aristotlian gem just for me. How kind of you. Your tired, droll witticisms fall horribly flat, once again, Cooter. To be preached to over flaming by the likes of you, well, is beyond the realm of comedy. Actually, let us get down to the brass tacks of your blatant slander:

- Where have I ever praised Jewish/Israeli malfeasance here?

- Where have I ever said Whites shouldn't organize here?

- Where have I ever stated you shouldn't discuss Jewish machinations and double-standards here?

Being that you can't - without employing gross, childish (shall I say, Millerish) distortions - prove a solitary point, I'll allow you to crawl back in your hole without further adieu. I'll leave out my opinions of your penchant for crack-pot ideas, out of kindness.

As far your emboldened query: I'm a racially conscious White man. Last I checked, there were few outlets where I could state my true opinions on such subjects.

You're fucking stupid too. I suspected that you might invite me to point out you kikeliness. Sure, glad to oblige. Here's a dab to start with:

Who claims a condo in Israel?



Who agrees with Keystone?

You've got Decrepit pegged correctly, Momus. He, Draco, and Norcal are all apologists for the jews. "Stop Naming The Jew", they scream over and over again, and/or with clear words, to that effect. Another coupla Intrepid quotes:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew", Alex.""

"You (Alex) seem to view anyone as an enemy, or somehow lacking in courage, if he doesn't stand in the public square and yodel "It's the Jews, stupid!"

"Common sense tells me that he (David Duke) had the "racist" block in hand; consequently his past utterances on Jewish/Israel issues could've only been a liability."

ATTENTION VNN'ers !!!! Are those Intrepid statements not exactly what the GD kikes and whores of the kikes are telling you ????

Intrepid is not only an accomplice of the jews, he is deliberately spreading the poison of DEFEATISM on this forum, and EFFECTIVELY among the newbees and the unsophisticated. Therefore COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to the labors, money, and time contributed by loyal VNN'ers.

He is the OPPOSITION. So let's chunk his OPPOSITION ass in the OPPOSITION forum, where all OPPOSITION deserves to me.

Yes Rounder, only your feeble mind could distort quotes like that as being "pro-Jewish".

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Re: MOMUS

"Whether Jews are genetically inclined to be horrible little anti-humans or if they hold super-secret ZOG-meetings about the destruction of the White race doesn't matter. "

That quote was by me, not Intrepid. And I meant to convey that it doesn't matter because Jews still suck, whether they do it by choice or just naturally. Personally, I think they're naturally inclined to be horrible little anti-humans and cultural parasites...it was meant in no way to be apologetic to the bastards.

Sorry for any confusion. :D

Of all the festive forum monkeys who enjoy disrupting our progress, Intrepid dances alone at the moment. Anima E. has sniffed the prevailing forum wind and scurried away into the treetops, Draco is penned in the Opp cage, HG is reluctant to intervene (she thinks the new atmosphere of White militance boring and a reason to post here MUCH less often), Pixi the same. Militant crusaderism is presently quiet as well.
That leaves this clumsiest of the frolicsome troop poised alone on a limb under the collective gaze of the forum.

So, defender of western noir, speak for Draco and Anima, tell us more about why we should be less overtly antisemian?

Edit: I see that you saffron amigo has reappeared, turd in paw, to join in the fun. Yellow vervet, or lion marmoset?

Re: MOMUS

"Whether Jews are genetically inclined to be horrible little anti-humans or if they hold super-secret ZOG-meetings about the destruction of the White race doesn't matter. "

That quote was by me, not Intrepid. And I meant to convey that it doesn't matter because Jews still suck, whether they do it by choice or just naturally. Personally, I think they're naturally inclined to be horrible little anti-humans and cultural parasites...it was meant in no way to be apologetic to the bastards.

Sorry for any confusion. :D

Yes, regardless, it was taken out of context. A reader not knowing the situation of said would be would inclined to believe the poster is implying "jews don't matter".

Deceptive, eh?

...

I yield to your superiority in the field of deception.


Deceptive, eh?


Monkeyshines
Of all the festive forum monkeys who enjoy disrupting our progress, Intrepid dances alone at the moment. Anima E. has sniffed the prevailing forum wind and scurried away into the treetops, Draco is penned in the Opp cage, HG is reluctant to intervene (she thinks the new atmosphere of White militance boring and a reason to post here MUCH less often), Pixi the same. Militant crusaderism is presently quiet as well.
That leaves this clumsiest of the frolicsome troop poised alone on a limb under the collective gaze of the forum.

So, defender of western noir, speak for Draco and Anima, tell us more about why we should be less overtly antisemian?

Edit: I see that you saffron amigo has reappeared, turd in paw, to join in the fun. Yellow vervet, or lion marmoset?

You guys are doing a good job keeping your squabbling more restricted to certain threads and not sprawling it all over the board, thanks.

Also, for comparison and contrast purposes, I want you to take a look at the "no flaming" policy from this other forum.

http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=76

We will certainly implement VNN's policy more tolerant than this, with a more flexible and lighter approach, let's call it "flaming discouraged." But I think this other board's policy has some good material in it to help define "flaming."

VNN is lightly moderated and it will stay that way.

Yes Rounder, only your feeble mind could distort quotes like that as being "pro-Jewish".

..

And yes, you Animal Enema, Ghangis Khan, illegal alien monkey, only a deliberate liar like you would distort what I said. Now show us where in that post, I said Intrepid was "pro-Jewish." Or else, admit you're a deliberate gook liar.

And listen up gooky puke: If anyone thinks I'm going to continue working my ass off, spending thousands of dollars, and countless hours on this forum, to promote ACTIVISMS, only to be personally insulted constantly by a God Damned, in-my-face-gook, they're in for a freakin, rude awakening, and soon.

Mark my words.

And yes, you Animal Enema, Ghangis Khan, illegal alien monkey, only a deliberate liar like you would distort what I said. Now show us where in that post, I said Intrepid was "pro-Jewish." Or else, admit you're a deliberate gook liar.

You called him an apologist for the Jews. One meaning by two different names. Is your short-term memory that bad? Alcohol can do that.



And listen up gooky puke: If anyone thinks I'm going to continue working my ass off, spending thousands of dollars, and countless hours on this forum, to promote ACTIVISMS, only to be personally insulted constantly by a God Damned, in-my-face-gook, they're in for a freakin, rude awakening, and soon.

Mark my words.

Hey, I don't much like being in-my-face insulted by a dysgenic human wasteland such as yourself.

;)

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HG is reluctant to intervene (she thinks the new atmosphere of White militance boring and a reason to post here MUCH less often),



Was that what I was trying to say?? Or was it something else. I didn't really think it would be that difficult to understand.

Originally posted by momus
You're fucking stupid too. I suspected that you might invite me to point out you kikeliness. Sure, glad to oblige. Here's a dab to start with:

Who claims a condo in Israel?


Quote:
Thanks. I'm rather slow, so I appreciate your random act of kindness. You're catching on, eh? After all, I've a condo in the place you so cavalierly deride as the "bandit state," so why would I want harm to come to my investment? Surely you understand the quandry I'm in, no?

Okay. I see you are from the same gene pool as Rounder. This reminds me of a conversation he had with Tom88. I didn't realize your malady was at such an advanced stage, too. Calm your nerves, place a warm towel above your brow, and think happy thoughts. At the very least, it couldn't hurt.



Who agrees with Keystone?


Quote:
I hate to say it, but I'm in concord with Keystone - again - on the "Aryan" issue. The Jews & the Left have won this propaganda battle already.

Well, I'll discuss Jewish machinations in a reasonable fashion, that might actually bring intellegent converts to the cause. On the other hand, you scream Aryan & wave swasis in the center of town. Birds of a feather...




Quote:
Maybe it just me, but when I see a cavalcade of any the following: insane conspiracy theories, joyous outburts over the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, or Jews behind every malady since the dawn of man, well, I'll typically comment on its ludicrous nature as well as the author behind it.

Your point? Mine was, Senor Dense, I'll continue to point out cranks and defectives 'till my heart's content. I can understand your disdain for such commentary, as you lead the pack in such behavior.


Quote:
Whether Jews are genetically inclined to be horrible little anti-humans or if they hold super-secret ZOG-meetings about the destruction of the White race doesn't matter.

What's this, Cooter? Have you failed so miserably, that you're inventing things now?

Originally posted by Rounder
And listen up gooky puke: If anyone thinks I'm going to continue working my ass off, spending thousands of dollars, and countless hours on this forum, to promote ACTIVISMS, only to be personally insulted constantly by a God Damned, in-my-face-gook, they're in for a freakin, rude awakening, and soon.

Mark my words.

Miller, who is they're?


Translated through the Written Scream Modulator®*:

If I don't get my way, I'm taking my pickled pig's feet, Government contacts, fond memories of personal chit-chat time with Mo Dees, Hawaiian porn mags, Eight-tracks and leaving.

- Alternate/subliminal interpretation:

What's that yellow bastard saying? Fers the lives of me, I dont knows. Cause I dont know, I'm quitting this pop-stand. *hrrmph *


* This device, whose initial designs were developed by preeminent scientist/inventor, Nikolai Tesla, is used to decipher aging federal informants incoherent ramblings and crude insults.

How outrageous to demand "tolerance" and "fair play" for non-whites and antis on a forum devoted to building White Nationalism.

This board is for White people who want to discuss White issues, not for non-whites and antis and little boys trying to compensate.


Another excellent post, siobhain.

Hmm...

Haven't you been one of the people defending Enema Eternal's gadfly presence here?

So, you remain revealed as a pompous, verbose windbag who is roundly despised by the majority of the forum. You stand in the forum spotlight as an effete, snobbish, punk with a condo in Israel. Why worry? You still have the support of you lil gook troll pal, Anima Eterna.
What a pair, I think of George Bush and Ariel Sharon or Thelma and Louise.

Okay. I see you are from the same gene pool as Rounder. This reminds me of a conversation he had with Tom88. I didn't realize your malady was at such an advanced stage, too. Calm your nerves, place a warm towel above your brow, and think happy thoughts. At the very least, it couldn't hurt.








Well, I'll discuss Jewish machinations in a reasonable fashion, that might actually bring intellegent converts to the cause. On the other hand, you scream Aryan & wave swasis in the center of town. Birds of a feather...






Your point? Mine was, Senor Dense, I'll continue to point out cranks and defectives 'till my heart's content. I can understand your disdain for such commentary, as you lead the pack in such behavior.




What's this, Cooter? Have you failed so miserably, that you're inventing things now?

Miller, who is they're?


Translated through the Written Scream Modulator®*:

If I don't get my way, I'm taking my pickled pig's feet, Government contacts, fond memories of personal chit-chat time with Mo Dees, Hawaiian porn mags, Eight-tracks and leaving.

- Alternate/subliminal interpretation:

What's that yellow bastard saying? Fers the lives of me, I dont knows. Cause I dont know, I'm quitting this pop-stand. *hrrmph *


* This device, whose initial designs were developed by preeminent scientist/inventor, Nikolai Tesla, is used to decipher aging federal informants incoherent ramblings and crude insults.

The following is a statement you made on this form:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew".

Everyone on this forum KNOWS that Draco's position on the jewish problem is for WNs to STOP NAMING THE JEW, the position you say you "tend to agree with."

Well now, since you both "tend" to champion the position of NOT NAMING THE JEW, what the hell are you doing on a forum which has as it's most important objective, NAMING THE JEW ???

(Watch him resort to personal insults, changing the subject, and/or kike komedy)

So, you remain revealed as a pompous, verbose windbag who is roundly despised by the majority of the forum. You stand in the forum spotlight as an effete, snobbish, punk with a condo in Israel. Why worry? You still have the support of you lil gook troll pal, Anima Eterna.
What a pair, I think of George Bush and Ariel Sharon or Thelma and Louise.


Did your ammo get all wet, Cooter? Where, pray tell, is your abundance of evidence of my philo-Semitism? Nope, nothing but your tired, unimaginative ad-homs. I wouldn't expect anything more from the likes of you.

It's called a townhouse in Tel Aviv. Even you aren't this simple, right? :rolleyes:

The following is a statement you made on this form:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew".

Everyone on this forum KNOWS that Draco's position on the jewish problem is for WNs to STOP NAMING THE JEW, the position you say you "tend to agree with."

Well now, since you both "tend" to champion the position of NOT NAMING THE JEW, what the hell are you doing on a forum which has as it's most important objective, NAMING THE JEW ???

(Watch him resort to personal insults, changing the subject, and/or kike komedy)

Before you scurry off again, Miller. Don't forget to answer this little ditty:

Quote:
Originally posted by Rounder
And listen up gooky puke: If anyone thinks I'm going to continue working my ass off, spending thousands of dollars, and countless hours on this forum, to promote ACTIVISMS, only to be personally insulted constantly by a God Damned, in-my-face-gook, they're in for a freakin, rude awakening, and soon.

Mark my words.



Miller, who is they're?

Townhouse in Tel Aviv, not a condo? Well, excuse me, Moise, what an exquisite difference. Do you get to use it whenever you like or does mommy have it rented out?
You act as if you're disappointed that I didn't submit a longer list of your kikely attributes. You never responded to the first ones. I like this quote from you especially:
"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew".



It's called a townhouse in Tel Aviv. Even you aren't this simple, right? :rolleyes:

Before you scurry off again, Miller. Don't forget to answer this little ditty:





Miller, who is they're?

It's obvious from reading the paragraph who "they" are. "They" are "Anyone" on this forum.

Now that I answered your question, answer mine: Did you make the following statements to Alex on this form:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew", Alex".

"You (Alex Linder) seem to view anyone as an anemy, or somehow lacking in courage, if he doesn't stand in the public square and yodel "it's the jews, stupid."

"Common sense tells me that he (David Duke) had the "racist" block in hand; consequently, his past utterances on jewish/Israeli issues could've only been a liability."

NOTE: Those and other similar statements by you, indicate clearly that you are in Draco and Norcal's camp of "Don't Name The Jew", which makes you all in opposition to VNN, the tabloid, the WFP, and Alex Linder, all of which are "Name The Jew" entities.

And try to be honest, for a change. Refrain from your usual kike-like-komedy and personal insults designed to distract attention away from the subject(s) at hand.

Originally Posted by MOMUS
So, you remain revealed as a pompous, verbose windbag who is roundly despised by the majority of the forum. You stand in the forum spotlight as an effete, snobbish, punk with a condo in Israel.

...... It's called a townhouse in Tel Aviv.

awww, did mommy buy baby a house in izzyland? How nice. I bet mommy even found some spics to live there, while baby nurses the tit.

Lets keep things in perspective, shall we?

1) Miller didn't "shitcan" the little jewish kid, AE did.

2) The little jewish kid has consistently disrupted threads and insulted the owner of this board with some of the most loathsome, disgusting language I have ever seen.

3) We post here on Linders dime. In spite of what you may think we are not entitled to anything here other than what "himself" says we are for the simple reason he owns the place.

4) Why Linder let that little squirt post here as long as he did is beyond me. It just shows how much patience the man has but like anything else, it can wear thin.

Good riddence to the punk!

Agree 100 percent....bye that man a drink!

I had no more to do with getting the gook booted, than any other regular VNN'er. But for the past 6 months, I've RECOMMENDED to Alex via PMs, that he kick his ass to the opposition forum, and for the same reasons I've stated on this forum.

Forum moderator A.E. did the right thing, and deserves the appreciation and support of all loyal VNN'ers.

It's obvious from reading the paragraph who "they" are. "They" are "Anyone" on this forum.

Now that I answered your question, answer mine: Did you make the following statements to Alex on this form:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew", Alex".

"You (Alex Linder) seem to view anyone as an anemy, or somehow lacking in courage, if he doesn't stand in the public square and yodel "it's the jews, stupid."

"Common sense tells me that he (David Duke) had the "racist" block in hand; consequently, his past utterances on jewish/Israeli issues could've only been a liability."

NOTE: Those and other similar statements by you, indicate clearly that you are in Draco and Norcal's camp of "Don't Name The Jew", which makes you all in opposition to VNN, the tabloid, the WFP, and Alex Linder, all of which are "Name The Jew" entities.

And try to be honest, for a change. Refrain from your usual kike-like-komedy and personal insults designed to distract attention away from the subject(s) at hand.

Well Intrepid, I'm still waiting for your response to the above. Did you chicken out (cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck) ? Did you retire to your Tel Aviv retreat like a kike seeking a safe haven ? Are you merely a confused, misguided WN, or are you a deliberate anti-VNN subversive on the forum for the sole purpose of doing harm to The Cause of FREEDOM FROM THE JEWS, and SAVING THE WHITE RACE FROM EXTINCTION ???

Well Intrepid, I'm still waiting for your response to the above. Did you chicken out (cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck) ? Did you retire to your Tel Aviv retreat like a kike seeking a safe haven ? Are you merely a confused, misguided WN, or are you a deliberate anti-VNN subversive on the forum for the sole purpose of doing harm to The Cause of FREEDOM FROM THE JEWS, and SAVING THE WHITE RACE FROM EXTINCTION ???

Ouch. Now, what have I told you about knitting with only one needle, Miller?

While I'd love to sit and chat, a choice cut of ribeye and a liberal dosing of Glenfiddich are a callin' this evening. If you capitalize, say, 12-13 more entire words, victory will no doubt be imminent.

Best, Intrepid

Ps. Do tell your fawning underling, Cooter, to take Dr. Intrepid's previous advice. It's especially detrimental for the dim, who are also elderly, to ignore such kindly prescriptions; they do so at their own peril.

Stuff your fat head, pompous snob, you deserve a break after defending western noir so strenuously.
Are all the wetbacks paid up on the rent? Maybe it's time for you and mumsy to jet to Israel to check on the townhouse. You could nosh some motzohs and Mogen David with your chosen pals and then brag about your meal when you get back here. You know we're fascinated with your diet, you boring candy-assed hypocrite.
Don't speak ill of those kikes, now.
Your type of troll performs best when in a pack or mob; it's not so fun being the only free-ranging jew-apologist on the forum is it? Why haven't you been over to the Opp. ward to visit your multicult side-kicks, Draco and Anima? You could team up with them there and discuss the many ways it's best NOT to name the jew.


While I'd love to sit and chat, a choice cut of ribeye and a liberal dosing of Glenfiddich are a callin' this evening. If you capitalize, say, 12-13 more entire words, victory will no doubt be imminent.

Best, Intrepid

Ps. Do tell your fawning underling, Cooter, to take Dr. Intrepid's previous advice. It's especially detrimental for the dim, who are also elderly, to ignore such kindly prescriptions; they do so at their own peril.

If you mean Anima Eterni, it was I who banned the slitty eyed fuck. I only hope he isn't unbanned like last time I banned him. I'm sure anyone who wishes to take part in a debate with the verminous scum can do so in the opposition forum. Its where he belongs!

Sorry for my mistake, Brighton. But hope you'll accept my late thanks for booting the gook opposition to the opposition forum. Like I said he was a subversive whose main objectives on this forum was (1) To cause distractions and divisions among VNN'ers, (2) To interject misinformation and disinformation, and (3) To help promote the DEFEATIST doctrine of "Don't Name The Jew".

It's obvious from reading the paragraph who "they" are. "They" are "Anyone" on this forum.

Now that I answered your question, answer mine: Did you make the following statements to Alex on this form:

"I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew", Alex".

"You (Alex Linder) seem to view anyone as an anemy, or somehow lacking in courage, if he doesn't stand in the public square and yodel "it's the jews, stupid."

"Common sense tells me that he (David Duke) had the "racist" block in hand; consequently, his past utterances on jewish/Israeli issues could've only been a liability."

NOTE: Those and other similar statements by you, indicate clearly that you are in Draco and Norcal's camp of "Don't Name The Jew", which makes you all in opposition to VNN, the tabloid, the WFP, and Alex Linder, all of which are "Name The Jew" entities.

And try to be honest, for a change. Refrain from your usual kike-like-komedy and personal insults designed to distract attention away from the subject(s) at hand.

I re-posted the above because you haven't as yet answered my question contained in it. Now answer the question and the following:

Do you, in fact, own a condo in Israel ?

If you refuse to answer, then I'll assume you are a deliberate subversive. I answered your question. Now answer mine.

If you mean Anima Eterni, it was I who banned the slitty eyed fuck. I only hope he isn't unbanned like last time I banned him. I'm sure anyone who wishes to take part in a debate with the verminous scum can do so in the opposition forum. Its where he belongs!

Anima's restriction follows repeated hints and warnings that he had degenerated into flaming. To further provoke us he expanded his negative attentions to Brighton and the British subforum where he previously had little interest and after many taunts that would not have ever been tolerated at any of his other forum and after much deliberate provocation he has gotten himself restricted here too. And it is a richly deserved restriction, after much patience on the part of the forum moderators and several days for him to adjust to the enhanced "flaming discouraged" policy.

I re-posted the above because you haven't as yet answered my question contained in it. Now answer the question and the following:

Do you, in fact, own a condo in Israel ?

If you refuse to answer, then I'll assume you are a deliberate subversive. I answered your question. Now answer mine.

My personal nor financial life is none of your business, Miller. You'll assume nothing, other than the fact your second-string mini-fuehrer routine nauseates decent White people.

Thanks for confirming us that you're a kike (half-kike, inlaw-kike, whatever), Inturdip. It took quite long for you to answer, why? Did you suck babydick for so long?

My personal nor financial life is none of your business, Miller. You'll assume nothing, other than the fact your second-string mini-fuehrer routine nauseates decent White people.

"Decent White people" on this forum deserve to know if you own property in Israel, and why you "tend" to be against NAMING THE JEW. Especially since you've been running your DEFEATIST-STOP-NAMING-THE-ENEMY mouth so profusely for the past 8 months inside 1,834 posts . And to people who did not know you own property in Israel, therefore have a vested personal interest in that anti-White nation, wherein resides those jews who are destroying our Race, while enslaving us inside a One World Jewish Government.

And so, are you a kike, a crypto kike, or just a kike-loving gentile looking out for your own personal interests ???

"Decent White people" on this forum deserve to know if you own property in Israel, and why you "tend" to be against NAMING THE JEW. Especially since you've been running your DEFEATIST-STOP-NAMING-THE-ENEMY mouth so profusely for the past 8 months inside 1,834 posts . And to people who did not know you own property in Israel, therefore have a vested personal interest in that anti-White nation, wherein resides those jews who are destroying our Race, while enslaving us inside a One World Jewish Government.

And so, are you a kike, a crypto kike, or just a kike-loving gentile looking out for your own personal interests ???


Do timeshares count?

Hey, I see you you've taken my advice: your clever usage of All Caps will indeed sway the White masses. About your perpetual query, well, sorry, Miller, you don't fit 95+% of the criteria of "decent White folk," so no cigar.

Btw, you might wish to your Dutch towel boy, Pim, to stay away from the vile language. He should keep his illegal pedo fantasies to himself. I imagine his emotions are all in tatters with his Super Bowl prediction of Israeli subterfuge not coming to fruition, e.g., F-16s, emblazoned with Star of David nose art, didn't strike Jacksonville last Sunday. Be the leader, help your diseased follower!

Do timeshares count?

Hey, I see you you've taken my advice: your clever usage of All Caps will indeed sway the White masses. About your perpetual query, well, sorry, Miller, you don't fit 95+% of the criteria of "decent White folk," so no cigar.

Btw, you might wish to your Dutch towel boy, Pim, to stay away from the vile language. He should keep his illegal pedo fantasies to himself. I imagine his emotions are all in tatters with his Super Bowl prediction of Israeli subterfuge not coming to fruition, e.g., F-16s, emblazoned with Star of David nose art, didn't strike Jacksonville last Sunday. Be the leader, help your diseased follower!

Not interested in your kike-komedy. And your confessed DEFEATISM via "I tend to agree with Draco, regarding "naming the jew" and your other DEFEATIST rhetoric has destroyed what little credibility you ever had on this forum. At least to the productive and loyal VNN'ers, and the rest don't count.

So enjoy what little time you have left, you freakin, pompous, class conscious, kike-like-komedian, accomplice of the jew, piece of Israli turd, you.
But remember, when you start back preaching your anti-VNN DEFEATISM again, ole Rounder will be there.

As I anticipated in my absence Kestone and Intrepid have both violated this rule and so have earned short bans each.

As I anticipated in my absence Kestone and Intrepid have both violated this rule and so have earned short bans each.
A few more weeks of banishment for the non-White househelp and the Negroe houseguests would be appropriate as extra measures :cool:

abzug for a week for irrelevant flaming of linder even after being warned.

in case the "new NA" clowns havent figured it out yet, no flaming will be interpreted to mean that threatening people and cussing repeatedly is not "debate" but "flaming." There is still plenty of space for existing VNN members who are "New NA" apologizers to debate in a coherent manner, and should other NA members wish to enter the discussion they are welcome to do so.

Meanwhile...

Rottenfuhrer, Jebstu88 banned.

ian1488 banned, pro-NA foul mouthed flamer. "New NA" advocates still welcome to show up if they think they can make some intelligent comments instead of breaking the rules on flaming.

Does the new no-flaming guideline also apply to 'Moderators'.?
;)

Does the new no-flaming guideline also apply to 'Moderators'.?
;)
Do you have someone in particular in mind Dasyurus Maculatus, speak up!

This rule applies to all or none as far as I'm concerned, and will not be enforced arbitrarily …the offender will be well warned before action is taken.

Do you believe we are being somehow unfair in this attempt to control some of the miscreants who chronically disrupt legitimate discussion on the forum?

Do you have someone in particular in mind Dasyurus Maculatus, speak up!

This rule applies to all or none as far as I'm concerned, and will not be enforced arbitrarily …the offender will be well warned before action is taken.

Do you believe we are being somehow unfair in this attempt to control some of the miscreants who chronically disrupt legitimate discussion on the forum?
No TG I have great respect for you guys and the hassle you have to face. :)

BTW Here is a PM message of undying affectation I received from Hoaxthis : I show it to advise that although Flaming may be constrained on the public forum, the destructive few suffering borderline personality-bypass will endeavour to find new ways to do it >

"I notice you have'nt posted in what?....two weeks now?!...ever since I kicked your ass.

Go ahead and post, pussy...and see what I do to you.

Think that wimp MOMUS kicked your ass? Hah! you ain't seen nothing yet...

later, hotshot " .

(Yawn :rolleyes: )
BTW how is someone hiding behind a p.c. supposed to have kicked my or anyone else 'ass'?. Flaming by Psycho kinesis maybe?

flaming discouraged:

cracker ofthewhip banned for a week. initially it was longer but I lowered it at another mods request.

thesun, banned for a week. a new forum member because most of its posts were flames against YankeeJim.

cracker ofthewhip banned for a week. initially it was longer but I lowered it at another mods request...
Well, shortening the banishment seems fair, considering CrackerOfTheWhip masterminded my avatars
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/holenolte.gif

flaming discouraged:

cracker ofthewhip banned for a week. initially it was longer but I lowered it at another mods request.

thesun, banned for a week. a new forum member because most of its posts were flames against YankeeJim.
I’d like to speak up for COTW too …I’ve always valued his opinion on the forum and enjoyed his creative graphics. I think he’s a good fellow. But we must enforce the rules for all on the forum, including ourselves mods …otherwise, they are meaningless. ;)
Cheers

No TG I have great respect for you guys and the hassle you have to face.

BTW Here is a PM message of undying affectation I received from Hoaxthis : I show it to advise that although Flaming may be constrained on the public forum, the destructive few suffering borderline personality-bypass will endeavour to find new ways to do it >

"I notice you have'nt posted in what?....two weeks now?!...ever since I kicked your ass.

Go ahead and post, pussy...and see what I do to you.

Think that wimp MOMUS kicked your ass? Hah! you ain't seen nothing yet...

later, hotshot " .

(Yawn )
BTW how is someone hiding behind a p.c. supposed to have kicked my or anyone else 'ass'?. Flaming by Psycho kinesis maybe?
LOL

DM the flaming rules only apply to postings on the forum …you can turn the PM off. If someone makes death threats or PM’s ya something of an illegal nature, you have to contact an admin such as Stan Sikorsky since we mods cant read the contents of stuff in the PM system. I can only make suggestions but you and Hoaxer should just bury the hatchet (and not in each other’s skulls mind ya ;) ) and if you cant, ignore one another for the sake of the board…vBulletin has an ignore feature that works very well, I’ve made use of it myself from time to time.
Cheers

flaming discouraged:

cracker ofthewhip banned for a week. initially it was longer but I lowered it at another mods request.

thesun, banned for a week. a new forum member because most of its posts were flames against YankeeJim.

Have a look at this:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=19625&page=44&pp=10

Post #440 by 88mmFlaK. This guy has made only 35 posts and has already gone into flaming mode. (If you go back to the beginning there, you'll see that I'm only defending myself. But now I'm all ashamed and stuff. Wrestle with a pig and you both get dirty.) He has also started sending me those little red disapproval dots with obscene remarks attached. Only time I've seen a poster go that far.

Weird thing is, the flaming is because I was criticizing JJT who I have no happy memories of, and that lit this guy's fuse. You'd think a guy defending JJT would instead be mellow. Maybe he's just freaking out because of perceived criticism of Stormfront as a whole, being all territorial like a nig and whatnot. Anyway, it's getting weird.

Have a look at this:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=19625&page=44&pp=10

Post #440 by 88mmFlaK. This guy has made only 35 posts and has already gone into flaming mode. (If you go back to the beginning there, you'll see that I'm only defending myself. But now I'm all ashamed and stuff. Wrestle with a pig and you both get dirty.) He has also started sending me those little red disapproval dots with obscene remarks attached. Only time I've seen a poster go that far.
............

I have tended to view nutzpah lounge as a place where by definitiion the rules on relevance and flaming are less stringently enforced. Otherwise perhaps there would not be a nutzpah lounge?

Also, I think Nutzpah is the designated area for phoramites. Let them frolick there in the muck. If he's following you around flaming in other areas of the forum let us know.

The description of the nutzpah forum is: "Jokes and more: where Whites say 'Nuts!' to chutzpah..." It sounds like a place for posting jokes and other funny stuff. It doesn't say flaming is more acceptable there than in the rest of VNNF.

You're a bit too formalist now, DC.

No TG I have great respect for you guys and the hassle you have to face. :)

BTW Here is a PM message of undying affectation I received from Hoaxthis : I show it to advise that although Flaming may be constrained on the public forum, the destructive few suffering borderline personality-bypass will endeavour to find new ways to do it >

"I notice you have'nt posted in what?....two weeks now?!...ever since I kicked your ass.

Go ahead and post, pussy...and see what I do to you.

Think that wimp MOMUS kicked your ass? Hah! you ain't seen nothing yet...

later, hotshot " .

(Yawn :rolleyes: )
BTW how is someone hiding behind a p.c. supposed to have kicked my or anyone else 'ass'?. Flaming by Psycho kinesis maybe?LOL! Just caught this...

Aww, wussa matter, Daisy?...you find your thonged heinie hiding under the desk more and more these days because I "threatened" to verbally thrash your swishing ass if you showed your face again?! Meeeooowww!

Did you pull that shit when you were growing up too?...running to the teacher or mumsy and daddy when some kid wanted to pound the piss outta ya? (Hey, wait a minute! -- did'nt I once shake you down for your milk money when we were in 3rd grade???) LOL!

"Waaah!! Mr. Moderator -- that mean ol' Hoax is saying he's gonna kick my ass! What shall I do?! Oh, what shall I do?!?" *sniffle*

(Out of respect for you, TG, I'll lay off the rat-bitch sissy...for now).

LOL! Just caught this...

Aww, wussa matter, Daisy?... you find your thonged heinie hiding under the desk more and more these days because I "threatened" to verbally thrash your swishing ass if you showed your face again?! Meeeooowww!

Did you pull that shit when you were growing up too?...running to the teacher or mumsy and daddy when some kid wanted to pound the piss outta ya? (Hey, wait a minute -- did'nt I once shake you down for your milk money when we were in 3rd grade???) LOL!

"Waaah! Mr. Moderator -- that mean ol' Hoax is saying he's gonna kick my ass!! What shall I do?! Oh, what shall I do?!?" *sniffle*

(And out of respect for you, TG, I'll lay off the rat-bitch sissy...for now).

From the replyabove its great to see that VNN forum is making measurable progress? :rolleyes: in its drive to increase the quality and maturity in the forum response.

Is VNN enhancing its leadership position as the enlightened voice of the world's white nation ? or will it continue to be slyly degraded by the 'cranially-challenged' such as HoaxItz! predictably still camping it up like a menopausal jewess on acid.

From the replyabove its great to see that VNN forum is making measurable progress? :rolleyes: in its drive to increase the quality and maturity in the forum response.

Is VNN enhancing its leadership position as the enlightened voice of the world's white nation ? or will it continue to be slyly degraded by the 'cranially-challenged' such as HoaxItz! predictably still camping it up like a menopausal jewess on acid.You just could'nt let sleeping dogs lie, could you, pillowbiter? Ah well...

looks like we'll just have to remedy the situation, won't we?

I'm at work right now, but look for me tonight and we'll..."chat". ;)

btw -- "...like a menopausal jewess on acid???" WTF?! Care to explain the meaning of that, or is it just something you concocted and threw on the board because you thought it "sounded" good?

AE, any new poster who suggests illegal activity and starts flaming a good thread should be banned, I think. At least for a week to cool down. What say you?

I have not seen this much flaming and other bullshit on this board in months. Be that as it may I have to split for now so further cleanup will have to go to other mods for time being. I have taken out my share of the trash today. LOL

Odd answer.

AE, any new poster who suggests illegal activity and starts flaming a good thread should be banned, I think. At least for a week to cool down. What say you?

Yes, I agree.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=240178#post240178

Steve B, you have a habit of leaking. That is, you take a quarrel from one thread and keep it in your heart, and let your anger spill forth in another thread later, instead of just saying what you want to say in the first thread. Right now you're taking a whiny jab at me here for me telling you to shut up in another thread several days ago, when you were insulting another poster. You're not being much of an adult when you do so. How long are you going to keep it up?

For another forty-eight years if he can. :D

May you have many decades of "leaking" ahead of you, Steve.

Aw, that's cute. He needs a pat on the head I suppose, so he can keep up the whining he's so good at, using his rage from thread A to shit over thread B, thread C, etc. How nice of you to encourage him. I don't know if you have some sort of mutual masturbation going on, but this thread is not the place for it. This is for suggestions to the mods, in case you missed it.

Steve B, you have a habit of leaking. That is, you take a quarrel from one thread and keep it in your heart, and let your anger spill forth in another thread later, instead of just saying what you want to say in the first thread. Right now you're taking a whiny jab at me here for me telling you to shut up in another thread several days ago, when you were insulting another poster. You're not being much of an adult when you do so. How long are you going to keep it up?

Yea, good observation. He carries stuff all around—and not like I do, just to be annoying; he seems to carry specific things with him. He loves speculating on my sex life, at least.

Steve B, you have a habit of leaking. That is, you take a quarrel from one thread and keep it in your heart, and let your anger spill forth in another thread later, instead of just saying what you want to say in the first thread.

Uhhh..ook. Not sure what you're getting at here as I don't keep an itemized list of my "anger" as you seem to. I'm also a little confused about the parallel relationship you make between "leaking", "spilling forth" and hostility. Perhaps you can enlighten me, Herr Freud.


Right now you're taking a whiny jab at me here for me telling you to shut up in another thread several days ago, when you were insulting another poster. You're not being much of an adult when you do so. How long are you going to keep it up?

Again DC, I think you read to much into the posts of others. After all, this is the internet and not real life and shouldn't be taken quite so seriously. The point of my original post was to point out the hypocrisy of your statement that "people who flame good threads should be banned" It was a little insincere, was it not, DC?

No matter, good sir. Flame away with "mutual masturbation" and all the rest of the peculiar proclivities that you people have.

I hate when people retreat into "this is the internet, don't take it so seriously."

And they have like 3,000 posts under their belt.

Sounded like Alex Linder? Never heard that one before. And why should I be stunned by hearing "you're no Alex Linder?" I think only AL is AL.

Anyway, I'm not flaming Steve B. I was making a suggestion to a mod and he took the opportunity to insult me by linking to one of my posts, suggesting snidely that what I had said was descriptive of me, which is bullshit. Typical Steve B behavior I have learned, not letting go of an old gripe, letting it fester in his chest, sniping here and there when he gets the chance, without doing the hard work of actually addressing that old gripe because that's a task he's unable to tackle. I was making a suggestion to the mods, what the fuck was his business using that to insult me?

And you doppelhaken, better relax and admit that's what he was doing. Unless you're blind to the mistakes made by an "allied" poster.

I think only AL is AL.

Man...thats deep. Itz almost biblical! "AL is AL". The way unto the light. Is AL all knowing and all seeing? Does he walk on water and raise the dead?


Anyway, I'm not flaming Steve B. I was making a suggestion to a mod and he took the opportunity to insult me by linking to one of my posts, suggesting snidely that what I had said was descriptive of me, which is bullshit. Typical Steve B behavior I have learned,.

Ohh poor baby, somebody gave DC a little taste of his own medicine and now he's "insulted". Guess what squirt, this is VNN(that AL guy) and nobody gets a pass. What I find a little strange is how a guy who joined in March of 2005 knows all about "typical Steve B behavior"? Snidely itz.


not letting go of an old gripe, letting it fester in his chest, sniping here and there when he gets the chance, without doing the hard work of actually addressing that old gripe because that's a task he's unable to tackle. I was making a suggestion to the mods, what the fuck was his business using that to insult me?,

Not uncle fester, uncle Scrooge! What a a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous old sinner I am. "Business!" cried Steve B! White Mankind is my business. Or something like that.


And you doppelhaken, better relax and admit that's what he was doing. Unless you're blind to the mistakes made by an "allied" poster.

Yes Herr Doppel, better relax or the Axis powers of DC and..umm...well.. DC will annihilate the "allied" powers of Steve B and..uhh.. that guy who created that really cool avatar I used to have...cracker of the whip, was it?

Ah, you see doppelhaken what I'm talking about. He's like this every now and then, isn't he? Sure, he can act like a normal person too, but this immature behavior shows through when he feels the need for it. What started it was that I one or two weeks ago simply told him to shut up when he was insulting THamilton, I believe it was, several times for no reason, in a thread where Stevie was in no way attacked himself. And he couldn't forget that. Even now it seems to be an open wound inside him. Weird, really.

So after that he feels the need to throw some shit around in unrelated threads, just like he did back then. Even here, in a thread that's supposed to be meant for forum suggestions. Ssk, ssk.... Steve B, have you no shame?

Odd answer.

Well we've got your eyes on "damage case" but I let him off with a warning and your helpful chastisements.

As for you guys wrassling in the dirt, I will ignore it.

Someone acts like an ass, I'll defend myself. Simple as that. I won't let an asshole mouth off without consequences. Of course, then I give ammunition to that most sacred of Western conflict-avoiding mantras, the refuge of any modern-day teacher and abdicated authority, that "It takes two to start a fight!"

Someone acts like an ass, I'll defend myself. Simple as that. I won't let an asshole mouth off without consequences. Of course, then I give ammunition to that most sacred of Western conflict-avoiding mantras, the refuge of any modern-day teacher and abdicated authority, that "It takes two to start a fight!"

Or the online version: "It's just the internet, don't take it so seriously."

Replying to you in a thread doesn't count as oppression -- and you should be glad, I am one of the few who reply to you.

When I say you're a loonie, it's true, if you really believe what you say: there are voices in your head telling you what to do, there are Jewish satellites watching us from space, the Swedish kingdom rules the world through "ombudsmen," Jewish spirits inhabit Gentile bodies, albinos like yourself are a race the Jews want to exterminate ... have I left something out? When you say something like this in a thread, you will have to expect people to consider it somewhat . . . controversial, shall we say.

A thread about flaming that turns into a flame war! AWESOME!!!

http://museumoftolerance.info/albums/Macros/InternetFight.jpg

Why would you ressurect this thread? Just for a place to post that idiot anime drawing?

Why would you ressurect this thread? Just for a place to post that idiot anime drawing?


BULLSEYE!!!

... Miller perched on his keg throne in the front yard, pendulous man-boobs in plain view for passers-by...
http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i104/154919.304lsu_fanspaintjob1.jpg

flaming discouraged:

cracker ofthewhip banned for a week. initially it was longer but I lowered it at another mods request.

thesun, banned for a week. a new forum member because most of its posts were flames against YankeeJim.

Wow, when Antiochus was an admin he ruled with an iron fist, it was like Stalin's purges of the late 1930's, you never knew when he would come for you.

Usually between 4 and 5 in the morning my time

Usually between 4 and 5 in the morning my time

are you still in Niedersachsen?

No, I'm in southernmost Germany.
I knew there was a way of getting you back here, somehow:D