Has anyone else noticed that Strom or someone pulled the available downloads of William Pierces past ADV broadcasts? That was one of the best resources available from the National Alliance site. Now all I can find are the plain text versions. If I am mistaken and they have just been moved please let me know.

[QUOTE=Joe Snuffy]Has anyone else noticed that Strom or someone pulled the available downloads of William Pierces past ADV broadcasts? That was one of the best resources available from the National Alliance site. Now all I can find are the plain text versions. If I am mistaken and they have just been moved please let me know.[/QUOTE]

http://www.natvan.com/internet-radio/ts/mp3/?C=M&O=D

They just probably moved the files around or reloaded them from backup, or "touched" them (a Linux command that changes the time/date stamps).

But looking at the filenames and not the file dates, I would say they are all still there. Not to worry, there are plenty of copies floating around. I think Solargeneral has a full backup as do some other places, I have a full backup and I would bet many other people here also have them too..

[QUOTE=Joe Snuffy]Has anyone else noticed that Strom or someone pulled the available downloads of William Pierces past ADV broadcasts? That was one of the best resources available from the National Alliance site. Now all I can find are the plain text versions. If I am mistaken and they have just been moved please let me know.[/QUOTE]

Eventually, he will delete any trace of him. jeffsarchives.com used to be the premier place to dL all of WLP's speeches and many others too but last time I checked, the site was gone. If you do happen to find a site with Pierce speeches archived, please post the url here in this thread. Thanks.

[QUOTE=John A. Whiteman]Eventually, he will delete any trace of him. jeffsarchives.com used to be the premier place to dL all of WLP's speeches and many others too but last time I checked, the site was gone. If you do happen to find a site with Pierce speeches archived, please post the url here in this thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

EVERY NA broadcast, from the very beginning to current, including all the texts and pdf's will fit on a single DVD..

I have them all in MP3 format. I can drop the mp3 DVD into my home DVD player and listen to them not to mention of course the computer. One guy I know has a DVD player in his car and can listen to them that way too..

I had a radio transmitter setup and was broadcasting to my neighborhood back in '01 and awakened/converted a few neighbors in the process.

The post Pierce programs don't do much for me but the old stuff fires my brain up. Strom just smacks of John Boy Walton..

But any way, burn them and pass them around.

I kinda wish Jerry Abbott would try writing them. I've read plenty of his writing on his website and its pretty convincing stuff.

[QUOTE=Ron Stevens]I kinda wish Jerry Abbott would try writing them. I've read plenty of his writing on his website and its pretty convincing stuff.[/QUOTE]

It's not the content, it's just that Strom sounds too pussified.
Pierce spoke with enthusiasm and conviction.
Strom, he looks and sounds like John Boy Walton..

I have a CD that I can burn a copy of for anyone that would like to have a lot of Pierce's ADV broadcast. It's not all of them but it's a lot of the most popular ones. If anyone wants a copy they can PM me and let me know.

[QUOTE=Dave42089]It's not the content, it's just that Strom sounds too pussified.
Pierce spoke with enthusiasm and conviction.
Strom, he looks and sounds like John Boy Walton..[/QUOTE]
I think Kevin uses irony too much. I think it's usually better to say things directly and as simply as possible.

[QUOTE=Dave42089]It's not the content, it's just that Strom sounds too pussified.
Pierce spoke with enthusiasm and conviction.
Strom, he looks and sounds like John Boy Walton..[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100% WLP could make even the weakest-willed individual sit up and take inventory of himself. He inspired me with his logic, intelligence and oftentimes, his humor. I really miss him these days.
Strom sounds like a girl and I have heard so much dirt on him that I cannot even listen to the broadcasts at all anymore.

[QUOTE=John A. Whiteman]Eventually, he will delete any trace of him. jeffsarchives.com used to be the premier place to dL all of WLP's speeches and many others too but last time I checked, the site was gone. If you do happen to find a site with Pierce speeches archived, please post the url here in this thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]


I just checked my archives, I show 470 MP3's from the very first Pierce speech to his last on one 7/20/02 and from there up to this past weekend with John Boy Walton.
1.8 gigabytes total. Fits on a DVD no sweat..
All of Dr. Pierce will fit on a mini-DVD (pocket sized 8cm) but to fit everything, a regular DVD is called for. Like I said, there's room for there for everything else they ever published too like the complete Free Speech archives and transcripts of all the programs.

I guess that all the MP3's (only) would fit on about 3 CDR's....
Don't know how to legally share them without the NA throwing a shit-hissy since they sell tapes and CD's of the programs.
There must be a "fair use" clause somewhere, since it's in the best interest to get them out to people since the NA will self destruct soon anyway. Can't let the wisdom of Dr. Pierce just vanish into the dustbin of time.. After all, he did dedicate his life to his race.

OMG!!!!

This thread is yet another example of you freaking idiots making a mountain out of a molehill in order to have something negative to say about a National Alliance member.....in order to try to pretend to have something worthwhile to say at all....

Why dont you stick to some legitimate complaints instead of making yourselves look like whiny little turds making up shit.....

You deserve a good kick in the arse.

April

[QUOTE]Dave42089 I guess that all the MP3's (only) would fit on about 3 CDR's....
Don't know how to legally share them without the NA throwing a shit-hissy since they sell tapes and CD's of the programs.
There must be a "fair use" clause somewhere, since it's in the best interest to get them out to people since the NA will self destruct soon anyway. Can't let the wisdom of Dr. Pierce just vanish into the dustbin of time.. After all, he did dedicate his life to his race.

It's all about money at this point. Look at the latest bulletins. How many things are they trying to pawn off on poor members? Every member is just a dollar sign. They only time you hear from these guys is when they want to squeeze more cash out of you. Racially conscience whites are just a customer base for these guys. Members need to think about this. Where is all this money going? Billboard fund? WLP memorial bricks? Why give Dr. Pierce's ADVs away for free? There's no profit in that. They're even trying to sell off all their old bulletins on our members! Products and profit is what it's all about. White Nationalism is big business and many are cashing in. Gliebe has to be thrilled at the Panzerfaust deal. He must be, it's been revealed that a stripper is now a PAID travel companion for our "Chairman". $$$$$ Keep sending it in!!!

[QUOTE=SheWolfoftheNA]OMG!!!!

This thread is yet another example of you freaking idiots making a mountain out of a molehill in order to have something negative to say about a National Alliance member.....in order to try to pretend to have something worthwhile to say at all....

Why dont you stick to some legitimate complaints instead of making yourselves look like whiny little turds making up shit.....

You deserve a good kick in the arse.

April[/QUOTE]
Just because there is a natural human characteristic to multiply single strong impulses into multiple smaller ones does not necessarily make those people "freaking idiots" nor deserving of a "good kick in the arse". The first two posts were wholly legitimate - someone lost their link to Dr. Pierce's words, and someone else helped them regain that link. No problem.

The prediction that the NA would someday allow Dr. Pierce's works to be lost wasn't an unjust prediction. You can certainly claim that it is, but then you could also claim that any leader of the NA would certainly be enough of a leader to be able to restrain himself from spending racial funds for personal self-gratification. As Dr. Pierce once mentioned, "We all have an ego.", but the distance from a cloistered, posessionless priest only allowing himself one single pleasure, the pleasure of spreading the word.....to Dr. Pierce, is a LOT closer in magnitude than the distance from Dr. Pierce to Erich Gliebe.

Expressed in racially significant ways Dr. Pierce produced. Erich Gliebe consumes. If the NA can move from a Dr. Pierce to a Gliebe in one single step one time, it can certainly do so again. I contend that it would not take more than one more step of that size in that direction for Dr. Pierce's works to be lost utterly, and the qualifications for such a position can only be such that many Jews....even queer Jews....can apply.

If you have a handbook (ha, fat chance), turn in it to read the words Dr. Pierce wrote about what a healthy family looks like. So many people like to point at Dr. Pierce's experiences with women and attempt to make the claim that he was a womanizer, and utterly corrupt in that area. But, take it from the inside, that is vastly far from the truth. And, he also had the good sense not to allow his human side to be aired so widely.....or to allow it to financially affect his racial service so detrimentally.

You speak of mountains made out of molehills....but I can see the mountain that their psychology is literally bursting to speak out against. You speak of worthwhile things to say....recall what Jerry Abbott once wrote it is extremely worthwhile:

The NA became mortally wounded when Erich Gliebe usurped power from the original Board of Directors. That some racists hasten that demise does not mean that we hate what the National Alliance, under Dr. Pierce, stood for. Indeed no. Rather, the NA had abandoned Dr. Pierce's ideology and strategy, and it began acting contrary to the founder's intentions. We can best serve Dr. Pierce's mission by plowing this corrupt organization under and replanting the soil with new organizational seeds.

Liberals frequently do not think. They applaud the NA's demise for the wish gratification it gives them. They've hated the "National Alliance" by reflex, but that name isn't what liberals hate by reason of philosophy.

Reasoned liberalism hates the way in which nature operates: differentiation, first racial, then speciation, the evolved divisions at the levels of genus, family, order, etc., and by natural selection on all levels. Since natural selection often involves violence and death, liberals regard it as impermissible. And because racial differences give natural selection something to work on, they declare the recognition of those differences impermissible.

The present NA is run incompetently by an egotistical man. When it is gone, it will be replaced by something the liberals will discover they like much less.

That impulse which they are expressing, and trying to express is very worthwhile. Far moreso than your rebuke.

[QUOTE=onetruth]Dave42089 I guess that all the MP3's (only) would fit on about 3 CDR's....
Don't know how to legally share them without the NA throwing a shit-hissy since they sell tapes and CD's of the programs.
There must be a "fair use" clause somewhere, since it's in the best interest to get them out to people since the NA will self destruct soon anyway. Can't let the wisdom of Dr. Pierce just vanish into the dustbin of time.. After all, he did dedicate his life to his race.

It's all about money at this point. Look at the latest bulletins. How many things are they trying to pawn off on poor members? Every member is just a dollar sign. They only time you hear from these guys is when they want to squeeze more cash out of you. Racially conscience whites are just a customer base for these guys. Members need to think about this. Where is all this money going? Billboard fund? WLP memorial bricks? Why give Dr. Pierce's ADVs away for free? There's no profit in that. They're even trying to sell off all their old bulletins on our members! Products and profit is what it's all about. White Nationalism is big business and many are cashing in. Gliebe has to be thrilled at the Panzerfaust deal. He must be, it's been revealed that a stripper is now a PAID travel companion for our "Chairman". $$$$$ Keep sending it in!!!
Without equity the propaganda stops,We may not even be close to organized jew media(goes without saying)but the effort must remain steadfast.
I give the MINIMUM to W.V.,and the most to my personnal projects and efforts,"keeping it local,and active".But you(and others)bring up many valid points about the decline in W.V.
Protest the Zundel imprisionment,go to your local Canadian Consulate!

[QUOTE=Ron Stevens]Just because there is a natural human characteristic to multiply single strong impulses into multiple smaller ones does not necessarily make those people "freaking idiots" nor deserving of a "good kick in the arse". The first two posts were wholly legitimate - someone lost their link to Dr. Pierce's words, and someone else helped them regain that link. No problem.

The prediction that the NA would someday allow Dr. Pierce's works to be lost wasn't an unjust prediction. You can certainly claim that it is, but then you could also claim that any leader of the NA would certainly be enough of a leader to be able to restrain himself from spending racial funds for personal self-gratification. As Dr. Pierce once mentioned, "We all have an ego.", but the distance from a cloistered, posessionless priest only allowing himself one single pleasure, the pleasure of spreading the word.....to Dr. Pierce, is a LOT closer in magnitude than the distance from Dr. Pierce to Erich Gliebe.

Expressed in racially significant ways Dr. Pierce produced. Erich Gliebe consumes. If the NA can move from a Dr. Pierce to a Gliebe in one single step one time, it can certainly do so again. I contend that it would not take more than one more step of that size in that direction for Dr. Pierce's works to be lost utterly, and the qualifications for such a position can only be such that many Jews....even queer Jews....can apply.

If you have a handbook (ha, fat chance), turn in it to read the words Dr. Pierce wrote about what a healthy family looks like. So many people like to point at Dr. Pierce's experiences with women and attempt to make the claim that he was a womanizer, and utterly corrupt in that area. But, take it from the inside, that is vastly far from the truth. And, he also had the good sense not to allow his human side to be aired so widely.....or to allow it to financially affect his racial service so detrimentally.

You speak of mountains made out of molehills....but I can see the mountain that their psychology is literally bursting to speak out against. You speak of worthwhile things to say....recall what Jerry Abbott once wrote it is extremely worthwhile:

That impulse which they are expressing, and trying to express is very worthwhile. Far moreso than your rebuke.[/QUOTE]

Ron,

You seem a bit off track in this post......I thought that pupose of this thread was to attack Kevin Strom not Erich Gliebe.......You need to adhere to VNN protocol and start a whole new thread about Erich Gliebe if your intention is to attack him, dont you know???

The VNN rule is : ( Section 4, article 2, line three ) "Anything minor detail that can be used as a possible attack against the National Alliance or one of its members deserves its own thread and should be at least three pages long minimum. Except if it can be construed with some sexual reference then it requires a 10 page minimum. Attacks are not to be bunched on one thread but are to be given their own thread regardless of how trivial or false they may appear to any logical individual, the more divisive and unbelieveable the better. This is to include any posts by Harold Covington even if they are to the effect that Dr Pierce is living off NA funds in a beachhouse in Hawaii with a hula girl and a pet parrot"

April

[QUOTE=SheWolfoftheNA]

...Dr Pierce is living off NA funds in a beachhouse in Hawaii with a hula girl and a pet parrot"

[/QUOTE]
I heard it was a condo in Aruba with a Vegas showgirl and his pet cat. :confused:

[QUOTE=SheWolfoftheNA]Ron,

You seem a bit off track in this post......I thought that pupose of this thread was to attack Kevin Strom not Erich Gliebe.......You need to adhere to VNN protocol and start a whole new thread about Erich Gliebe if your intention is to attack him, dont you know???

The VNN rule is : ( Section 4, article 2, line three ) "Anything minor detail that can be used as a possible attack against the National Alliance or one of its members deserves its own thread and should be at least three pages long minimum. Except if it can be construed with some sexual reference then it requires a 10 page minimum. Attacks are not to be bunched on one thread but are to be given their own thread regardless of how trivial or false they may appear to any logical individual, the more divisive and unbelieveable the better. This is to include any posts by Harold Covington even if they are to the effect that Dr Pierce is living off NA funds in a beachhouse in Hawaii with a hula girl and a pet parrot"

April[/QUOTE]

That kinda depends on which track, or purpose you mean. Actually no, the purpose of this thread isn't to "attack" Kevin Strom, though, to be sure, someone may have thrown a line that way. The purpose was that a member needed a point in the right direction to regain his access to the works of a man he highly respected and valued. It then expanded into a more general apprehension of whether those works would remain available, and to what extent each party involved might add or detract from nobility.

All in all, if there is any post in this thread that is divisive in overall character, it is the quoted one in which the claim is made that somehow _others_ are violating VNN's rules. It isn't erronious to note that the NA has fallen from nobility with respect to its racial service. It isn't erronious to expect the NA to fall further from nobility given its internal problems in the leadership ranks.

Now, all that said, I want to add that I have always had great respect for Kevin. I intent to keep that respect, and think the best of him whenever I can possibly believe that is warrented. The criticisms that people have with the sound of his voice vaguely remind me of the kinds of criticisms that go on in major corporations that keep excellent technical material out of the leadership ranks, and send large organizational structures wending their way towards destruction and collapse. I can sum up this criticism in a nutshell, as well as anecdotally.

First the anecdote. Once upon a time, I was visiting the home of a retired technical leader of a large computer software firm. I was at his home because he had personal need of computer technical skills, and he had asked around in the company who might be both able, and interested. He offered me the contract and I took it. While I was there, he offered me advice on how to advance my career. How to dress, how to speak, what to say, what opinions to hold....etc.. I listened carefully, and participated politely with him. Near the end I carefully told him...."It would seem to a person who casually considered your advice that _image_ is just as important as substance is." He responded immediately with no pause: "It's more important, really."

And thats what I tend to think when I hear people say that Kevin's voice sounds pussified. I have to admit that I did find Dr. Pierce's ADV programs more inspirational, and I appreciate the author who attempted to describe the nuts and bolts of that. Not to say that Kevin has not, or is not capable of that. I have listened to Kevin speak, in person....when he is well prepared, and not being overrun by demands and unfair treatment from his superiors, he is quite formidable. More than occasionally he is inspirational. Often he is brilliant.

But, the point is he is inspirational, and brilliant when he is precisely because of his content and not at all because of the pitch of his voice, which I don't find feminine in the slightest anyway. He isn't an old man yet, but he is a man.

[QUOTE=Ron Stevens]
And thats what I tend to think when I hear people say that Kevin's voice sounds pussified. I have to admit that I did find Dr. Pierce's ADV programs more inspirational, and I appreciate the author who attempted to describe the nuts and bolts of that. Not to say that Kevin has not, or is not capable of that. I have listened to Kevin speak, in person....when he is well prepared, and not being overrun by demands and unfair treatment from his superiors, he is quite formidable. More than occasionally he is inspirational. Often he is brilliant.

But, the point is he is inspirational, and brilliant when he is precisely because of his content and not at all because of the pitch of his voice, which I don't find feminine in the slightest anyway. He isn't an old man yet, but he is a man.[/QUOTE]

Let me clarify my observations of Strom.

As I said, I don't particularly have a problem with the content, at least in most cases, it's just that he smacks of "Mr. Rogers" of "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" and sounds like he's talking to a class of kindergarteners.

He's devoid of the FIRE of WILL that Dr. Pierce possessed.
Of course comparing him to Pierce is ludicrous.

[QUOTE=Dave42089]Let me clarify my observations of Strom.

As I said, I don't particularly have a problem with the content, at least in most cases, it's just that he smacks of "Mr. Rogers" of "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" and sounds like he's talking to a class of kindergarteners.

He's devoid of the FIRE of WILL that Dr. Pierce possessed.
Of course comparing him to Pierce is ludicrous.[/QUOTE]
Dave,

It's perfectly okay. First, I did understand from your first post that you were speaking of more than merely imagery. With regards to public speaking, often a kind of imagery _is_ substance. "A picture is worth a thousand words" has been used to describe a wider truth when "picture" is given a metaphorical element.

Many years ago, when my father was alive, we often had conversations. Good, communicative conversations...and a large part of the conversation was a small verbal reference to an image, followed by the words "you know" and then a qualifier or two. Among immediate relatives, such efficiency of communication is often possible. To a lesser extent, people within the same race can communicate with a similar efficiency.

The goal of all debate is to convince. Efficient words are less taxing in many ways, and generally more convincing for that reason.

Now, apart from all that, I didn't mean to say that I thought image (meaning strictly image) was nothing at all. Dr. Pierce washed up, put on a suit and tie, and etc whenever speaking before an audience, and so should any reasonable speaker. The problem comes in when the mentally inferior members of the audience begin taking on pretensions of grandeur that their station in life does not warrent. Instead of listening to the arguments of the speakers and weighing that in their minds, they decide based on other clues who the real winner is. For example, who is taller, who has the deeper voice, clearer skin, the most visible musculature, the biggest dick (at least for the queers and half of the women), the better dressed, the neater hairstyle, etc etc etc.

They also tend to weigh in what the people around them say, lick their finger, stick it in the air and see which way the wind blows.

(Incidentally, I knew one speaker who dressed down/sloppy to attempt to make a point of taking the audiences mind off of those types of things. Attempts of this nature generally backfire.)

Dr. Pierce was a better speaker. Either on content alone, or on content combined with presentation skills. Unfortunately, as much as I liked Dr. Pierce, he is dead now. Among all of those willing, Kevin is enough of a speaker....debater, presenter......that the race really wouldn't want to do without him. There is simply a shortage in this department, and it is contrary to racial interests to alienate one of these assets unless they had too much negative offsets....for example, if a good speaker is a liar and a thief such as Bill Clinton, he'd be a net negative.

I understood what you meant, and I know you want the best for the race.

[QUOTE=Dave42089]Let me clarify my observations of Strom.

As I said, I don't particularly have a problem with the content, at least in most cases, it's just that he smacks of "Mr. Rogers" of "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" and sounds like he's talking to a class of kindergarteners.

He's devoid of the FIRE of WILL that Dr. Pierce possessed.
Of course comparing him to Pierce is ludicrous.[/QUOTE]

Once again, I agree with your summation of KAS. He must be respected for what he is trying to do but unfortunately, the man who did it much better is gone and now we must listen to Mr. Rogers instead of WLP if we want to hear the NA message.

Does anyone realize that if we just put in half the amount of energy towards fighting our enemies as we now expend in battling each other, we would have won the war by now?

Well they are still there, I just have to go a different route than the easy links they used to have on the bottom of the main Alliance page. I guess I should have looked a little harder. And I shouldn’t have blamed Strom, I just assumed anything to do with ADV was his baby. Gliebe probably has absolute control of what is displayed and able to be accessed on the National Alliance web site.

Not that there is any replacement for Pierce, but I think Strom blows. Nowhere near as charismatic.

[QUOTE=John A. Whiteman]Once again, I agree with your summation of KAS. He must be respected for what he is trying to do but unfortunately, the man who did it much better is gone and now we must listen to Mr. Rogers instead of WLP if we want to hear the NA message.[/QUOTE]

Who took the Shewolf of the "new" NA off of my Ignore list? I see she's back here defending the indefensible. Back on my shit list you go! <kerplunk!>

On second thought, lucky girl, you get a temporary reprieve. Since you are an official spokesmodel for the "new" NA, and since I know you are here reading this, and since you say you speak regularly with Gliebe, let this serve as official notice that if the $1,000 given to the WLP memorial walkway 2 and 1/2 years ago (ref: NA BULLETIN 9/2002 and 12/2002) in my name and Paul Lennon's name for two 8"x8" granite pavers is not returned within two weeks from today -- February 7, 2005, that Paul and I will at that time be filing a claim for mail fraud against Mr. Gliebe and your "new" NA with the U.S. Postal Inspector. I talked to Paul last night and he has agreed to go forward with me on this claim. All I had to do to tip the scales with him was to read Dr. Bob Demarais's VNNF posting about your true Celtic prophet, Frank Weltner's queer Jew boyfriend.

If others who donated to this fraudulent fund in good faith will contact me, giving me the amount and date of their donations, digging up their cancelled checks, providing copies of their receipts, I will add their names to the complaint. It's time.

Now, back on topic: the question raised by this thread is why were Dr. Pierce's 400+ inspirational ADV broadcasts removed from free access? That's not a mole hill. Gliebe, as Chairman is the responsible party. Get him to answer that simple, direct question for us since you seem to relish this role of gobetween.

[QUOTE=White Will]
On second thought, lucky girl, you get a temporary reprieve. Since you are an official spokesmodel for the "new" NA, and since I know you are here reading this, and since you say you speak regularly with Gliebe, let this serve as official notice that if the $1,000 given to the WLP memorial walkway 2 and 1/2 years ago (ref: NA BULLETIN 9/2002 and 12/2002) in my name and Paul Lennon's name for two 8"x8" granite pavers is not returned within two weeks from today -- February 7, 2005, that Paul and I will at that time be filing a claim for mail fraud against Mr. Gliebe and your "new" NA with the U.S. Postal Inspector. I talked to Paul last night and he has agreed to go forward with me on this claim. All I had to do to tip the scales with him was to read Dr. Bob Demarais's VNNF posting about your true Celtic prophet, Frank Weltner's queer Jew boyfriend.

If others who donated to this fraudulent fund in good faith will contact me, giving me the amount and date of their donations, digging up their cancelled checks, providing copies of their receipts, I will add their names to the complaint. It's time.
[/QUOTE]

I dont think me calling Erich up and reading your post would really help you prove that you have given him notice if it goes to court. I would advise you that you take another action to give "notice" of your intentions. I have members in my own unit who have donated to the brick fund. Believe me I will ask about it when I get to the LC in April.

Oh and by the way, I am not an official spokesperson for the NA. You and everyone else knows that. I think that Becki Taylor and Iantha Buschbacher were the only women who ever received that title. It was printed in the bulletin both times.

SheWolfoftheNA is just a funny moniker kindof like you using the name White Will like the comic book character. But you know this.

[QUOTE=SheWolfoftheNA]I dont think me calling Erich up and reading your post would really help you prove that you have given him notice if it goes to court. I would advise you that you take another action to give "notice" of your intentions. I have members in my own unit who have donated to the brick fund. Believe me I will ask about it when I get to the LC in April.

Oh and by the way, I am not an official spokesperson for the NA. You and everyone else knows that. I think that Becki Taylor and Iantha Buschbacher were the only women who ever received that title. It was printed in the bulletin both times.

SheWolfoftheNA is just a funny moniker kindof like you using the name White Will like the comic book character. But you know this.[/QUOTE]

No, SheWolf of the "new" NA, unlike your funny moniker, I've been answering to White Will for over 15 years -- well before the comic book -- and it is merely a twist of my given name, William White Williams.

The official mail fraud notice stands whether you take it seriously or not.

And why did you avoid the question about why Dr. Pierce's audiotaped ADV shows have been removed as free downloads?

[QUOTE=White Will]And why did you avoid the question about why Dr. Pierce's audiotaped ADV shows have been removed as free downloads?[/QUOTE]

She probably avoided it because this did not happen. The ADV broadcasts are still on the website, as they always have for years.

For those having problems finding the broadcasts click on "Recent Broadcasts" on the small menu that appears beneath the ADV link. That is where all of the ADV's can be found in their entirety.

[QUOTE=White Will]No, SheWolf of the "new" NA, unlike your funny moniker, I've been answering to White Will for over 15 years -- well before the comic book -- and it is merely a twist of my given name, William White Williams.

The official mail fraud notice stands whether you take it seriously or not.

And why did you avoid the question about why Dr. Pierce's audiotaped ADV shows have been removed as free downloads?[/QUOTE]

Well Will if you think that something like " I told April Gaede to tell Erich Gliebe on the VNN message board" will hold up in court then go for it.

I didnt avoid the question. I have no idea if or why they were removed. I have been busy with a new baby and though I try to help remedy legitimate complaints in my spare time I honestly cannot spend the time to answer every single one. I suggest someone email Kevin Strom about it if they really want to know and quit speculating. But from what I understand it was actually just someone jumping the gun and making a false accusation.

LOL.

She knows Will knows how to sue somebody just fine and has "been there and done that" before.

Ms Gaede I think you're squandering your various talents on Gleebe. You might consider taking note of its limited shelf life and consider a little "distance" from the house of cards that is the new NA.

PS I just downloaded the mp3 "I will bleed for you" and it's a charming song. You must be proud of your children. But the "lyrics" link at your web page is broken.

[QUOTE=Davey Crockett]Does anyone realize that if we just put in half the amount of energy towards fighting our enemies as we now expend in battling each other, we would have won the war by now?[/QUOTE]
Don't kid yourself. The opposition is deep as well as wide. What we've been getting from organized Jewry so far is nothing compared with what they can do, if they keep their grip on the police and military powers of the US government. We simply have not yet scared them enough to burst the dam on us. Their contempt has been our protection, so far. The idea was to keep them contemptuous until we had the means to strike them down quickly. We're a long way from there. Further than ever, because of Gliebe.

Jerry Abbott