http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...on/11025057.htm




"A purported member of Hale's group from Palatine, Ill., posted this message Tuesday on the Vanguard News Network message board: "While I certainly understand that we are not supposed to be advocating illegal activities, there is nothing illegal or harmful in being happy about this incident. I can barely contain my glee."

Spengler mentions that's our VNNF member, Palatine Creator. What of it, if Creators don't care? Do Jooz mourn when Muslims die? We are a religion. ...So recognized by the federal courts.

I saw on Faux or CNN a video shot of the Resistance board in which a guy posted something along the lines of "I'm glad that jewbot is gone". All totally legal.

Malcolm X, speaking in 1962 after a plane from Atlanta with 121 whites were killed in a crash while taking off from Paris:

"I would like to announce a very beautiful thing that has just happened. I got a wire from God today. He really answered our prayers over in France. He dropped an airplane out of the sky with over 120 white people on it because the Muslims believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. We will continue to pray and we hope that every day another plane falls out of the sky."

(Quoted from Thayer, The Farther Shores of Politics, p. 317.)

Malcolm X wasn't too sympathetic when liberal icon JFK was shot either. When a reporter asked him about it after the assassination, he said " It's the white man's chickens coming home to roost". At least he was honest though. I read he got thrown out of the NOI for saying that publically. Must have upset the liberal jerks like JFK was, too much.

Realize it. We are being watched and used to fuel the circus. Lets give them a good show. The less they use, the more we know we are on the right track.

I like the quote they used. I do make it clear that we are not supposed to advocate any illegal activity, nor is there any harm in celebrating what I think is a provoked retaliation against the persecution of those who believe in and practice the Creativity religion.

To my knowledge, VNN has never gotten coverage in the Chicago Tribune before. I congratulate myself for giving the mainstream press a quote from this forum to give it some publicity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2343-2005Mar2.html?sub=new
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2343-2005Mar2_2.html
Also carried by the Washington Post, Palatine Creator. Though I wish they'd gotten VNN's "No Jews- Just Right" motto correct.

article by "Peter Slevin" Peter Slevin also writes for "fairness.com"-
http://www.fairness.com/resources/by-relation?relation_id=9706
http://www.fairness.com/about/#AdvBoard
Fairness.com Advisory Board
George M. Cohen
John LevineF. Robert Stein"While I certainly understand that we are not supposed to be advocating illegal activities, there is nothing illegal or harmful in being happy about this incident," wrote someone with the Web name Palatine Creator. "I can barely contain my glee."

The posting appeared on the site of the Missouri-based Vanguard News Network, whose motto is "Uncensored News for Whites." On the site of Stormfront, Yukon King expressed sorrow for the judge's family, "at least what's left of it. I guess her career of framing innocent people will be put aside for awhile."

The pathology of the fragmented white nationalist movement is on view in the aftermath of Monday's double killing (On the other hand, if you want to see the omnipresent pathology of AIPAC and Jewish supremacist Israeli, just turn on your cable news 24/7. ...Or Murray Rothstein's MTV, or VH1, for that matter. -Chain). Working double shifts, Chicago police and the FBI are studying the associates of jailed World Church of the Creator leader Matthew Hale and a disparate array of extremists who sympathize with his cause.

..."At this very moment, our comrade and fellow White Patriot PM Matt Hale remains incarcerated in a federal jail fighting for you," said a posting on the Arkansas-based White Revolution site.

"He is treading the line of Family, Race and Nation against alien tyrants," the posting continued, "whose sole aim is to usurp your rights, your land and extort your resources . . . and to destroy your families through integration."

In a population convinced that the federal government is determined to persecute the righteous, the argument has also surfaced that "white nationalists" were being framed for the killings. Someone named Syth said the FBI probably planned them.

"Syth, I agree with you the most," a reply said. "No way in the world would the feds allow anyone get close to the judge's family, UNLESS they wanted it to happen. . . . I suspect the powers are alarmed at the growing strength of the WN movement & want to turn it into a pariah."

The movement has been weakened by the recent deaths or departures of several leaders. The Aryan Nations and Hale's World Church have lost adherents, and the National Alliance has suffered internal rifts and the lack of a charismatic leader after the death of William Pierce.

"Twenty years ago," Pitcavage said,
http://www.splcenter.org/images/imglib/M/ir_108_behind_walls_200x200.jpg
"white supremacists lived in their mothers' basements and thought hateful thoughts. Today, that person in his mother's basement, with the click of a mouse, can immediately access tens of thousands of like-minded people around the world. . . . and feel empowered."

"Twenty years ago," Pitcavage said, "white supremacists lived in their mothers' basements and thought hateful thoughts. Today, that person in his mother's basement, with the click of a mouse, can immediately access tens of thousands of like-minded people around the world. . . . and feel empowered."

Awesome what they're admitting here, or what their delusions are telling them. There are "tens of thousands" of haters just waiting to "feel empowered" and get together. Wow. How come that never quite happens in real life?

I found some more sites which carry the Chicago Tribune article by putting "I can barely contain my glee."+palatine into a google search engine.

The Monterery Herald in California:

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/nation/11025057.htm

Religionnewsblog.com:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/10424/White-nationalists-continue-focus-on-judge--family

I found some more sites which carry the Chicago Tribune article by putting "I can barely contain my glee."+palatine into a google search engine.

The Monterery Herald in California:

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/nation/11025057.htm

Religionnewsblog.com:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/10424/White-nationalists-continue-focus-on-judge--family

Hey P.C.!! Why don't you email letters-to-editors in response. It's an excellent opportunity to have your views read by millions. Newspapers which mention a person's name (or in your case, your forum screen name), are pretty much obligated to allow a rebuttal from the person, so named.

BTW, if any VNN'er every sees my name in any newspaper, or hears my name spoken on any radio or TV station, let me know immediately. I'll respond to them either with a letter-to-editor, or demand air time for my rebuttal.

Hey P.C.!! Why don't you email letters-to-editors in response. It's an excellent opportunity to have your views read by millions. Newspapers which mention a person's name (or in your case, your forum screen name), are pretty much obligated to allow a rebuttal from the person, so named.

BTW, if any VNN'er every sees my name in any newspaper, or hears my name spoken on any radio or TV station, let me know immediately. I'll respond to them either with a letter-to-editor, or demand air time for my rebuttal.
Excellent idea, Rounder. I think this would be a good rebuttal:

This letter is in response to the quote you used from my post on Vanguard News Network in the last paragraph of the article "On the Web, allies of Hale cheer slayings".

I am a working class white man employed by a Fortune 500 company who is forced to pay his taxes to a judge who has banned his religion. I have good reason to feel glee when I see what may be a provoked retaliation against this persecution materialize. When the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Those who practice the Creativity religion should not fear the sanctions imposed by Judge Joan Lefkow for expressing their religious beliefs when there is liberty.

I think I'll email the Chicago Tribune first. Then I'll start collecting emails of other newspapers that come up when I do a google news search for Vanguard News Network.

All right, email sent. I hope it appears in the Village Voice section tomorrow.

isnt it hilarious that incompetent Bill White's website is offline due to heavy traffic? Good riddance.

Story about "hate websites"

http://www.wral.com/news/4248823/detail.html

http://www.splcenter.org/images/imglib/M/ir_108_behind_walls_200x200.jpg

Uh... That's hilarious.

isnt it hilarious that incompetent Bill White's website is offline due to heavy traffic?

I refuse to use Microsoft server products for that reason; however, when one does consulting work, often one has to learn that stuff. His site is by far not the only one to have that error so... well, if this message has a point, it's "do your hosting on UNIX." I prefer Microsoft for desktop operating systems by far, but it's not geared toward heavy load hosting - to say the least.

isnt it hilarious that incompetent Bill White's website is offline due to heavy traffic? Good riddance.

Story about "hate websites"

http://www.wral.com/news/4248823/detail.html

No kidding. White does not know how to design or run a decent website. The dumbass uses IIS! Jeez! He doesn't know how to tune it either.

I refuse to use Microsoft server products for that reason; however, when one does consulting work, often one has to learn that stuff. His site is by far not the only one to have that error so... well, if this message has a point, it's "do your hosting on UNIX." I prefer Microsoft for desktop operating systems by far, but it's not geared toward heavy load hosting - to say the least.

Absolutely. Apache on Linux (or any flavor of unix). That's what the big boys use.

He's trying to use PHP and mysql with IIS! PHP and mysql suck in my opinion, I've never seen a fast site that uses them.

http://www.splcenter.org/images/imglib/M/ir_108_behind_walls_200x200.jpg

Uh... That's hilarious.
Indeed. You can tell that guy hasn't had a date in a long time. Probably not since his gut first started to cover the view of his toes.

Can we say "Comic book shop guy"?

Indeed. You can tell that guy hasn't had a date in a long time. Probably not since his gut first started to cover the view of his toes.

Can we say "Comic book shop guy"?

Betcha he's married. :eek:

Excellent idea, Rounder. I think this would be a good rebuttal:

This letter is in response to the quote you used from my post on Vanguard News Network in the last paragraph of the article "On the Web, allies of Hale cheer slayings".

I am a working class white man employed by a Fortune 500 company who is forced to pay his taxes to a judge who has banned his religion. I have good reason to feel glee when I see what may be a provoked retaliation against this persecution materialize. When the government fears the people, there is liberty; When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Those who practice the Creativity religion should not fear the sanctions imposed by Judge Joan Lefkow for expressing their religious beliefs when there is liberty.

I think I'll email the Chicago Tribune first. Then I'll start collecting emails of other newspapers that come up when I do a google news search for Vanguard News Network.

I always thought you might have some fire in your belly, P.C. Let us know when, and if they print your response. (You might even try to sneak in www.govnn.com (http://www.govnn.com)).

Email all those newspapers you can.

(Now, about your financial pledge to VNN. . . . . . . )

Well, my response didn't make it into the paper, but there was an article in the Chicago Tribune today that went into detail about people in the movement who believe that Lefkow destroyed the WCOTC and how we compare the incarceration of Hale to the siege at Waco.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0503040201mar04,1,6316460.story?coll=chi-news-hed

...

Hale's legal battles are, in some circles of the racist fringe, akin to the standoffs at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, or at Ruby Ridge in Idaho. Those events galvanized the militia movement in the 1990s and, in the case of Waco, led to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh.

...

"They thought she was out to destroy the World Church of the Creator," Burghart said.

...

BTW I mailed out a $10 check yesterday to Linder. Once you get it you can put me on your list of the good guys here.