Use this thread to post technical suggestions and solutions to broadcasting production. This thread will be valuable as the network progresses.

Are you familiar with this SS ?

http://www.streamerp2p.com/?page=moreinfo.htm

http://www.streamerp2p.com/ (Home page)

It's P2P but it looks like it might be a good way to propogate the broadcast without using a lot of bandwidth. If there were ten people on the u.s. east coast who could be counted on to stay logged in for each program in its entirety and ten people on the west coast who would do the same it could really spread the load around. A couple people in Scandinavia could help out in Europe doing the same thing, especially in Sweden where the Freedom of Speech laws are pretty close to what exists in the states.

Interesting. I'll look into it and thanks :)

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especially in Sweden where the Freedom of Speech laws are pretty close to what exists in the states.

I did not know that! --I thought that "holocaust denial" etc., was a punishable offense in Sweden!?

Video Conferencing (http://www.video-insight.com/dvr021.htm)

It is always better to have a face than just a voice.

I know how to manipulate video rather well. At one point I was planning to create something in the line of a video product but due to no funding to spare I gave up on it.

While i'm at it, you need a triple CCD camcorder to do this, no less than 1/3" CCDs anything less would give too much smudging, the bigger the CCD the better but those kinds of camcorders cost big bucks, we're talking 7,000$ on up for half inch tripple CCD camcorders in the DV flavor. DVPRO being the best since it has the least compression used and can be decompressed into a lossless video codec for further video manipulation before being recompressed to whatever format you want, MPEG-2 for DVD for example.

I don't see any reason why those with the tech, editing and production value savvy cannot create content for the network at this point. If you have it in you, do it. :D

I noticed 'The King' recommended using StreamerP2P,so that broadband-equipped listeners could provide extra bandwidth for listening to the VNN Broadcasting Network w/o overloading Stan's server.

If one wanted to do something similar to this w/o requiring proprietary client software for listening,then perhaps the broadband-equipped among us could set up Shoutcast (http://www.shoutcast.com/download/serve.phtml) relay servers instead.

Here's how I see this working:

Stan's server provides the main broadcast stream to regional servers. (East Coast USA,Southwest USA,Sweden,Denmark,etc.)
The regional servers are set up to relay the broadcast stream from VNN's main stream server.
Local servers (using just your DSL or cable connection) could then relay the broadcast from regional servers.

I'm not sure how high quality of a stream Stan wants to do on his end; if VNN
Broadcasting is going to stick to talk and news and avoid music, you could probably get away with 24-32K bitrate streams.

If we take a wild (and probably somewhat optimistic) guess and say that most of your DSL/Cable connections out there have about 384K upstream bandwidth, that means that each little relay server can handle (384/32) = 12 users...but we'll just say 10 to compensate for overhead.

So then... One connection is made to VNN Broadcasting's main server by the relay server for the Texas area. Itz just a little server like I said,on a little DSL line that tops out at 384K upstream. About 10 clients can connect and listen to 32K streams w/o problems.

Those clients can be listeners,or more relay servers: for Austin,San Antonio,Dallas,Houston,etc..each with the ability to carry 9-10 listeners at the bitrate before mentioned with the bandwidth limitations mentioned.

To tie all this together, the volunteers crazy enough to sacrifice their upstream bandwidth should register on a dynamic IP DNS service like www.no-ip.org and make a domain name for their username with a common name template. i.e. vnnaustin.no-ip.org, vnndallas.no-ip.org, vnnstockholm.no-ip.org.

One can then provide hyperlinks for these from the main server,or one could use these servers in the m3u file that a listener's mp3 player program accesses to find a server. Specify multiple servers in the m3u file and the client program goes down the list of servers until it finds one that's not busy.

Alternatively,one could set up the relay servers to make their presence known to the Shoutcast.com directory,again using a common name template like "VNN Broadcasting Network - Austin Server 1". Listeners would just search for any station with the phrase "VNN" or "VNN Broadcasting" and get a nice pretty list of servers to click on and listen to.

The one big problem I see with this,now that I'm thinking about it is that having this great huge pyramid of relay servers providing the stream bandwidth provides lots of targets for anti-White hackers to run denial-of-service attacks on. Keeping the setups homogenous on so many servers wouldn't be fun either.

your thoughts?

I noticed 'The King' recommended using StreamerP2P, so that broadband-equipped listeners could provide extra bandwidth for listening to the VNN Broadcasting Network w/o overloading Stan's server.

Hello MS14. I must stress that I'm not necessarily recommending Streamer, I have no experience with it myself. A friend of mine who works for an internet portal here suggested we take a look at it. I'm strictly going by what she says and what Streamer advertises at their website, and as you know that can sometimes be misleading. However my friend told me Streamer has a good reputation for utility amongst small internet broadcasters.


If one wanted to do something similar to this w/o requiring proprietary client software for listening,then perhaps the broadband-equipped among us could set up Shoutcast relay servers instead.

Here's how I see this working:

Stan's server provides the main broadcast stream to regional servers. (East Coast USA, Southwest, USA, Sweden, Denmark, etc.) The regional servers are set up to relay the broadcast stream from VNN's main stream server. Local servers (using just your DSL or cable connection) could then relay the broadcast from regional servers.

I'm not sure how high quality of a stream Stan wants to do on his end; if VNN Broadcasting is going to stick to talk and news and avoid music, you could probably get away with 24-32K bitrate streams.

If we take a wild (and probably somewhat optimistic) guess and say that most of your DSL/Cable connections out there have about 384K upstream bandwidth, that means that each little relay server can handle (384/32) = 12 users...but we'll just say 10 to compensate for overhead.

So then... One connection is made to VNN Broadcasting's main server by the relay server for the Texas area. Itz just a little server like I said, on a little DSL line that tops out at 384K upstream. About 10 clients can connect and listen to 32K streams w/o problems.

Those clients can be listeners,or more relay servers: for Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, etc. each with the ability to carry 9-10 listeners at the bitrate before mentioned with the bandwidth limitations mentioned.

Yes, this is approximately what I had in mind in order to spread around the load. However now you're talking about relatively large bitrate capable "substations." This would essentially require several high speed connections and high bitrate hardware and more or less dedicated servers in most metro areas to absorb any DOS attacks, as you mention below. I would use the analogy of a tree with one main trunk and several branches spreading outward to describe your suggestion. Streamer uses that same anology btw. However I look at Streamer in theory as more a spiderweb than a tree. Rather than say twenty five "substation" branch connections to Stan's server which would feed the broadcast downstream, as you've described it, the Streamer software would (in theory) allow say one hundred connections to Stan's server. Each one of those hundred connections would serve as a mini-relay station in itself, albeit capable of only passing the stream along to perhaps three or five people.
According to the Streamer website, the software performs a continual connection check and distributes the load amongst users as the load varies. This arrangement would be much less vulnerable to DOS attack imo. Again I'll stress I do not have experience using the Streamer software, I'm using what they claim at their website as reference.


To tie all this together, the volunteers crazy enough to sacrifice their upstream bandwidth should register on a dynamic IP DNS service like www.no-ip.org and make a domain name for their username with a common name template. i.e. vnnaustin.no-ip.org, vnndallas.no-ip.org, vnnstockholm.no-ip.org.
One can then provide hyperlinks for these from the main server,or one could use these servers in the m3u file that a listener's mp3 player program accesses to find a server. Specify multiple servers in the m3u file and the client program goes down the list of servers until it finds one that's not busy.

Alternatively, one could set up the relay servers to make their presence known to the Shoutcast.com directory, again using a common name template like "VNN Broadcasting Network - Austin Server 1". Listeners would just search for any station with the phrase "VNN" or "VNN Broadcasting" and get a nice pretty list of servers to click on and listen to.

I think those are excellent suggestions, but would probably be practical only after setting up a dedicated hardware network u.s.a.-wide or worldwide for that matter. At present I think getting on the air with what we have is the best course of action, even if it's each listener making a direct connection to Stan's server. Then we can react to technical matters as they occur. There is no better way to find faults and areas that need attention than to simply launch the broadcast then address problems that present themselves.


The one big problem I see with this,now that I'm thinking about it is that having this great huge pyramid of relay servers providing the stream bandwidth provides lots of targets for anti-White hackers to run denial-of- service attacks on. Keeping the setups homogenous on so many servers wouldn't be fun either. Your thoughts?

Agreed. But eventually it would be possible to secure enough hardware on high speed connections that all but the most organised DOS attack could be absorbed, and listeners would have the option of connecting to alternate servers.

Good and interesting thoughts all the way round MS14.

One thing to keep in mind: I'd actually planned my 'tree of relay servers' idea based on the type of broadband connections many users already have,or could set up for less than US$100/mo here in the U.S. I probably should've been thinking about arrangements for countries where the same bandwidth is much more expensive. I agree that my idea would be much,much worse with setup time than Streamer would,where extra bandwidth for listeners is added every time someone with DSL or a cable modem clicks on the link to listen.

Stan said he had a T1 link going into the server he has set up right now. Unless we're going hog-wild with 320Kbit quality live streams,plenty of users should be able to hop aboard without problems even w/o assistance from subservers.

I am interseted in this p2p/additional broadband relay idea. I have been working on the updated equipment/software list and need numbers to figure into a representative financial prosepectus regarding that scenario. Throw some cost numbers at me to secure services in this realm if you have the time.

I was already thinking of bouncing the broadcasts off the main VNN server to lighten the load on my server. My server is mainly the root of the tree and I would like to keep it as free as possible when doing live broadcasts. The software will have more memory to play with that way.

One more problem with Streamer:

While it technically works fine, the yellow-pages page and the "seed" servers that compile lists of stations are run by the programmer,who happens to be an anti. I was personally banned from broadcasting when I was running a test relay stream from Frank Weltner's site last week.

Unless I can figure out how to configure StreamerP2P so it uses only our network resources and doesn't announce itself to the programmer's servers or YP page, I'm not so sure how well that'll work.

Costs using either Shoutcast relays or StreamerP2P are the same,really.

The software itself is free.

My own bandwidth costs for 384K upstream DSL (SBC in Austin,TX) are about $50/mo..agree to a 1yr contract and that monthly cost goes down to about $30/mo. I can upgrade to 512k upstream for about $10 more per month. Cable modem service (RoadRunner residential or business class) should be about the same.

http://radiowhiteaustin.no-ip.org is running off a dual p2/400 box w/192mb ram. Cost of the machine? Under $100.
I figure you could get away with a 350mhz PC with around 128MB RAM,and just enough hard drive space to hold an operating system.. probably available for no more than $200 for each machine if you wanted to use desktop systems. Each machine's probably not going to have more than 32 users on it unless one gets a really nice business class 2Mbps cable connection,so you really don't need huge amounts of CPU and memory.

Operating system costs could be a problem if you wanted to set up new systems with M$ operating systems. However. Shoutcast's server is available for Linux and FreeBSD as well...no $ needed to download an ISO of the installation CD,and I can aid in setting up relay servers for those OSes. NetBSD and OpenBSD (two more free to download,open source OSes) should be able to run FreeBSD binaries for the same hardware platform with some extra setup work.

Setting up domains like I'm using shouldn't cost anything on www.no-ip.org. If one has a static IP connection,one could set themselves up as a subdomain from vanguardnewsnetwork.com. (i.e. radio1.vanguardnewsnetwork.com). Do you or Alex have control over that,if someone wanted to offer up their static IP cable or DSL connected system to our efforts?

What other costs did you have in mind? I'm sure I'm missing something else here.maybe I'll think of it at work. :)

Rather than trying to reinvent the wheel, why not just support the National Alliance's ADV broadcasts or Frank Weltner's Majority News Network. Is this about white survival or hobbyists egos? Isn't VNN just making a useless effort to entertain and justify the do-nothing racists who infest the forum? Think about it, seriously.

I don't consider VNN Broadcasting to be "reinventing the wheel"..just the creation of another "company", "selling" programming to White audiences.

Getting more White voices onto the 'Net,and possibly the airwaves in the future is activism,BTW.

What's wrong with 'entertainment'? Jews did most of the reshaping of White thinking through entertainment shows on radio and TV.

As far as I'm concerned, and I believe I'm not alone, the start-up of the VNN broadcasting network is to provide a voice that isn't compromised by any agenda other than to provide an entertaining message of exposing the jew and itz antics as they pertain to White interests, as well as informing Whites of alternatives to jew dictated life. That is the goal and I have dedicated my time and energy to making it a vibrant and cutting edge voice for our White interests. NA? More power to em. Anyone else throwing into the mix? Hail Victory! VNN using the resources of its members and contributors in the way only VNN can? Hell Yeah!

One more problem with Streamer:

While it technically works fine, the yellow-pages page and the "seed" servers that compile lists of stations are run by the programmer,who happens to be an anti. I was personally banned from broadcasting when I was running a test relay stream from Frank Weltner's site last week. Etc.

Thanks MS14. It's better to know now that we won't be able to use any of the commercial p2p broadcast software.

Looks like we'll have to use the sledgehammer approach and utilise additional hardware since we likely don't have anyone capable of writing a customised p2p program.

Peercast (http://www.peercast.org/)
is supposed to be a good utility as well but I suspect we would run into the same refusal of service that you encountered with Streamer.

Are you or Stan any kind of computer mechanic ?

What do you think about this:

Used machines are fairly cheap. If we picked up three of those and upgraded the processors, that configuration would present a firewall between the outside world and Stan's server (connect the used machines to Stan's server through an eight port router). Those would serve as three alternate streams that would be available in case of DOS attack (or five or eight streams etc. depending on how many additional PCs we would eventually purchase and incorporate into the mini-broadcast network).

Maybe there are a few forum members who have an old machine that they no longer use and they'd be willing to ship it to you or Stan or Alex (Alex could pass them along if anonymity is an issue). If no one has a machine he's willing to donate a used tower in good shape can be purchased here for approximately US $100. I would guess they're probably the same price or cheaper in the states. If three machines could be had for three hundred dollars, and we made a 3.4 Ghz processor upgrade for each at five hundred dollars per machine, plus a hundred dollars more for a router the cost would be approximately US $1900 to get on the air full time with multi-streams. Does that sound feasible or do you have something else in mind ?

I think we'll have to do everything we can to avoid using any commercial software or putting ourselves in a position to be blocked by a third party. In the case of an IP that threat cannot be eliminated of course but all choke points beyond the local provider must be avoided. We could gradually acquire more used PCs and offer say six or eight streams or more if that became necessary. The PC "mini-servers" would necessarily be directly connected and physically located alongside Stan's server, but the added costs for Stan running and maintaining that much hardware would be figured into the broadcast fees. Stan would be reimbursed for that according to whatever arrangement he wanted to work out with Linder.

If we put together a three PC bank, each with a 3.4 gig capability that would allow three fairly robust streams. I think it would be a good place to start then increase the hardware if and when necessary.

Those are just my initial thoughts, maybe you have alternate suggestions.

Rather than trying to reinvent the wheel, why not just support the National Alliance's ADV broadcasts or Frank Weltner's Majority News Network. Is this about white survival or hobbyists egos? Isn't VNN just making a useless effort to entertain and justify the do-nothing racists who infest the forum? Think about it, seriously.


I'm with Stan Sikorsky on this one...The more the merrier.

KAS does a good job with ADV.

I believe Alex Linder and VNN radio will do even better.

Just my opinion.

Are you or Stan any kind of computer mechanic ?

What do you think about this:

Used machines are fairly cheap. If we picked up three of those and upgraded the processors, that configuration would present a firewall between the outside world and Stan's server (connect the used machines to Stan's server through an eight port router). Those would serve as three alternate streams that would be available in case of DOS attack (or five or eight streams etc. depending on how many additional PCs we would eventually purchase and incorporate into the mini-broadcast network).

Maybe there are a few forum members who have an old machine that they no longer use and they'd be willing to ship it to you or Stan or Alex (Alex could pass them along if anonymity is an issue). If no one has a machine he's willing to donate a used tower in good shape can be purchased here for approximately US $100. I would guess they're probably the same price or cheaper in the states. If three machines could be had for three hundred dollars, and we made a 3.4 Ghz processor upgrade for each at five hundred dollars per machine, plus a hundred dollars more for a router the cost would be approximately US $1900 to get on the air full time with multi-streams. Does that sound feasible or do you have something else in mind ?

I think we'll have to do everything we can to avoid using any commercial software or putting ourselves in a position to be blocked by a third party. In the case of an IP that threat cannot be eliminated of course but all choke points beyond the local provider must be avoided. We could gradually acquire more used PCs and offer say six or eight streams or more if that became necessary. The PC "mini-servers" would necessarily be directly connected and physically located alongside Stan's server, but the added costs for Stan running and maintaining that much hardware would be figured into the broadcast fees. Stan would be reimbursed for that according to whatever arrangement he wanted to work out with Linder.

If we put together a three PC bank, each with a 3.4 gig capability that would allow three fairly robust streams. I think it would be a good place to start then increase the hardware if and when necessary.

Those are just my initial thoughts, maybe you have alternate suggestions.

Yes Sir, I am a computer mechanic. I build them from the ground up, repair existing hardware and software; I'm a web site programmer, graphic artist and a network administrator. I am well versed in MS 98SE, 2000 Pro, 2000 Server, XP & XP Pro, and learning Linux as server software.

I have 3 machines I am working on to add to the network for the purposes you have described above, as well as all necessary support hardware to network these machines together, and software. One machine will even be Linux driven.

My only challenge at this point is to secure a static IP address or DNS forwarding service within the next week. MidnightStar stated that I have a T1 but I do not. I am currently using standard broadband cable. To upgrade to a static IP and an upstream speed of 512 kbs will cost me $125 a month with a one-time installation fee of $250. This installation is what I need to look into though as I can handle anything on my side of the router. All they need to do at Comcast is push a couple buttons on their end and if that costs $250 to do, then I will look at other ways to accomplish DNS issues. I will be speaking with a rep tomorrow (Monday). I have other customers for my web services that I host on commercial servers but I would like to bring their sites in-house. This will help to supplement costs for the radio project through hosting fees I will charge my customers' sites.

I haven't asked for any money from VNN for my expenses and don't plan on doing so. If I do need any financial help to accomplish the goals needed to elevate the hardware for broadcast, I will let you and everyone else know. My Grandfather and Father were/are electronic geniuses. I feel something in the blood that drives me to carry on the tradition and at the same time grants me insite to solve technical issues in the most effective yet frugal manner. I know the money is there thanks to generous donations to this project but I will do everything in my power to avoid using them on my end when I know that they will benefit the project down the road I can do without them. On top of that, I don't want to be responsible for other peoples' money because if I can't deliver on my word because I have reached a wall, I don't want it biting me in the ass. The shame of not achieving is enough to bear.

The downside of this thinking is that it takes more time to make things happen. Money definitely buys time. But at the same time, the content needed to broadcast over the hardware I am assembling is in step with my progress. I know you and others expected this project to produce faster than it has but I have to say that all aspects of it are being built from the ground up, facilitating total ownership that will transverse disruption from our enemies and their lackies, and provide the most powerful content our race has ever seen or heard.

On that note I have only to add that today Agis, Alex and myself had another planning session online using the conferencing software we have obtained. Chain was to join us but some technical issues arose that prevented him from joining us. I will be working those out with him this week. This next Sunday we are looking forward to producing the pilot broadcast of Agis' Crossfire broadcast that will be a feature of the launch of the network.

My only challenge at this point is to secure a static IP address or DNS forwarding service within the next week. MidnightStar stated that I have a T1 but I do not. I am currently using standard broadband cable. To upgrade to a static IP and an upstream speed of 512 kbs will cost me $125 a month with a one-time installation fee of $250.

I stand corrected on the connection issue.

I could get the same connection speed a bit cheaper here in TX if you didn't want to run the servers doing the actual broadcasting yourself. I could get both DSL and cable, or perhaps 2 DSL lines and that would probably provide ample bandwidth to start with. If I can get that business class 2mbps upstream cable connection in my apartment,that'd take care of things too. :)

Since you're running this off of a standard cable connection Stan, I think you should probably just get a free No-IP DNS name for your server,and set up your machine to be a stream server that only accepts connections from specific IPs/DNS names. Let other VNNers run the actual front-line serving and deal with security,and use a permanent domain such as vnnbroadcasting.com or vnnradio.com for a links page that links to streams running off other systems with more free No-IP names. That permanent server could also store archives of programs,saving the stream servers from having to carry that load. As I mentioned before,an m3u file with a list of stream servers linked off of a permanent server will work- the listener's mp3 player client will just go down the list thru the servers until it finds one that isn't busy. Additionally,the Shoutcast directory automatically handles that- when I was running a relay server of Frank Welter's stream, both our servers were accessible from one link.

In response to The King's question,I too am a computer mechanic,though certainly not as experienced as Stan. I can still handle the server items so he can deal with audio production, as he has experience there I would have to learn from square one.

Regarding DNS, No-IP.com offers domain registration for 19.95/yr. All the popular dot variants for VNNBroadcasting and VNNRadio are available as of 4-11-2005,but Vnnlive.com is taken. Here's the whois info on the possible squatter:

[snip]
Registrant:
Pitrinius, Saxus
ATTN: VNNLIVE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

Domain Name: VNNLIVE.COM

Administrative Contact:
Pitrinius, Saxus vt54p4sv25w@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: VNNLIVE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780

Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620

Record expires on 22-Aug-2005.
Record created on 22-Aug-2004.
Database last updated on 11-Apr-2005 01:26:54 EDT.
[snip]

What top-level domain name would you guys like for the network?

Yes Sir, I am a computer mechanic. I build them from the ground up, repair existing hardware and software; I'm a web site programmer, graphic artist and a network administrator. I am well versed in MS 98SE, 2000 Pro, 2000 Server, XP & XP Pro, and learning Linux as server software.

Great, that's extra helpful.


I have 3 machines I am working on to add to the network for the purposes you have described above, as well as all necessary support hardware to network these machines together, and software. One machine will even be Linux driven.

That's excellent Stan, thanks for donating the equipment and the wrench time. That would seem to be the most practical solution, break up the stream from your server into separate streams through smaller PCs. We can add PCs if and when necessary. What do you think about upgrading to 3.4 Ghz processors and maxing out the memories in each ? It's an added expense I know, but it would increase capacity and capability.


My only challenge at this point is to secure a static IP address or DNS forwarding service within the next week.

Good move. I realise obtaining a static IP address involves an additional fee from your provider. All of these charges, the small time stuff as well as the major expenditures for hardware, software and connections should be tallied up and shared amongst members who are able to fund the project on a regular basis.
There has been approximately $1100 donated thus far that I know of. Let's e-activate the broadcast fund and start collecting $20 or $25 or $50 or ? from as many people who can afford to contribute. I'll kick in another $25 just to get the fund active again. I'll put it in the post immediately upon hearing that that's agreeable to you. I'll send it to Linder and mark it "For Broadcast Fund."


MidnightStar stated that I have a T1 but I do not. I am currently using standard broadband cable. To upgrade to a static IP and an upstream speed of 512 kbs will cost me $125 a month with a one-time installation fee of $250. This installation is what I need to look into though as I can handle anything on my side of the router. All they need to do at Comcast is push a couple buttons on their end and if that costs $250 to do, then I will look at other ways to accomplish DNS issues.

Pushing a few keys on a keyboard is essentially all they have to do to to set you up with a T-1 connection. But a T-1 connection is worthwhile having and it's something we're going to need eventually I think you'll agree. That price is reasonable in my opinion. They get their money for the initial installation, true, but after that thirty dollars a week is acceptable in exchange for the vastly improved capability. That monthly bill should be at least partially paid from the broadcast fund.


I will be speaking with a rep tomorrow (Monday). I have other customers for my web services that I host on commercial servers but I would like to bring their sites in-house. This will help to supplement costs for the radio project through hosting fees I will charge my customers' sites.

Which is why I would like to re-activate the broadcast fund. Ten or twenty dollars a week or a month from forum members who can afford it will ensure that all broadcast expenses are paid, and not paid out of Stan Sikorski's pocket.
Once the network is up and running and generating income then it will hopefully pay for itself and the need for donations will cease. Until that time member contributions will be needed to build the foundation and infrastructure but the goal is to eventually have the network support itself through selling blocks of time and advertising.

I haven't asked for any money from VNN for my expenses and don't plan on doing so. If I do need any financial help to accomplish the goals needed to elevate the hardware for broadcast, I will let you and everyone else know.

You cannot be expected to subsidise the entire effort with your own donated time, material and expenses. Try to put a rough total together for what it's going to take to get on the air and we'll use that figure as an immediate target for the broadcast fund. Just to give you a prompt here's what I'd suggest:

Three (3) 3.4 Ghz processors @ $500 per = $1500
Three (3) memory sticks @ $50 per = $150
One (1) eight-port router = $100
Miscellaneous odds & ends = $150
T-1 installation with two months' fees pre-paid = $500 (don't pay to have this activated until the broadcasts are ready to proceed)

Total = $2400


My Grandfather and Father were/are electronic geniuses. I feel something in the blood that drives me to carry on the tradition and at the same time grants me insite to solve technical issues in the most effective yet frugal manner. I know the money is there thanks to generous donations to this project but I will do everything in my power to avoid using them on my end when I know that they will benefit the project down the road I can do without them.

That's appreciated Stan. But if a few bucks worth of donations can expedite the process let's keep the fund open. Virtually everybody can afford a $20 or $25 ante on say the first of May. If two or three thousand dollars will get you on the air a couple months quicker, let's do it.


On top of that, I don't want to be responsible for other peoples' money because if I can't deliver on my word because I have reached a wall, I don't want it biting me in the ass. The shame of not achieving is enough to bear.

Making things happen requires money. I hereby entrust you with my donations. I'm giving of my own free will. I'm not going to miss any meals over what I've been donating so I'm not leaning over your shoulder expecting miracles. Sometimes money gets pissed away when building prototype projects, we all know that happens, just try and keep it to a minimum.


The downside of this thinking is that it takes more time to make things happen. Money definitely buys time. But at the same time, the content needed to broadcast over the hardware I am assembling is in step with my progress. I know you and others expected this project to produce faster than it has but I have to say that all aspects of it are being built from the ground up, facilitating total ownership that will transverse disruption from our enemies and their lackies, and provide the most powerful content our race has ever seen or heard.

I'm not disappointed or disillusioned at all. I'm confident you're giving it your best efforts. Do give us an update every now and then though, even if there's no major news to report. It helps keep everyone interested and motivated.


On that note I have only to add that today Agis, Alex and myself had another planning session online using the conferencing software we have obtained. Chain was to join us but some technical issues arose that prevented him from joining us. I will be working those out with him this week. This next Sunday we are looking forward to producing the pilot broadcast of Agis' Crossfire broadcast that will be a feature of the launch of the network.

I'll be interested in hearing that. Now get back to work. j/k

How is everything going Stan?

I would be glad to help out with that T1 installation fee.

Going good at this point Joe. I have been working on the next broadcast segments as well as chopping the debut broadcast in sections according to subject to lighten the download. I have also been working on script to stream the broadcasts and a home page to link them from.

I found that it is much more reliable to use the security of the VNN host servers to hold and run the content available now. I had an issue when I posted the first broadcast for review by the staff. My IP was flooded a few hours after I posted and it shut down my connection. I therefore deamed my setup a security risk and requested of Alex that we use the provenly reliable VNN servers to host the broadcasts. The additional cost for space and bandwidth is much more economical than going thru the cost of setting up a T1 connection and proper security at my location. Cuts down on development time and complications as well.

This move makes the monies donated now and in the future work more efficiently, yielding reliable results and allows me to concentrate on content and less on technical issues. Another whole day and the 2nd broadcast should be ready to air. Stay tuned!

So what are the goals for the next six months and what obstacles do you foresee?

What is going to have to be figured out and what will need to be purchased?

No flaming in activism.

Going good at this point Joe. I have been working on the next broadcast segments as well as chopping the debut broadcast in sections according to subject to lighten the download. I have also been working on script to stream the broadcasts and a home page to link them from.

As soon as the Broadcasting is past the testing stage, I would remove the contact link "mailto" on the front page of VNN and replace it with broadcasting. Right now it's inconsistent, the reader mail opens to the reader mail page, the forum to the forum page, the links to the links page, but contact just runs a mailto script. I would replace that with a link that opens to the media portal.

I found that it is much more reliable to use the security of the VNN host servers to hold and run the content available now. I had an issue when I posted the first broadcast for review by the staff. My IP was flooded a few hours after I posted and it shut down my connection. I therefore deamed my setup a security risk and requested of Alex that we use the provenly reliable VNN servers to host the broadcasts. The additional cost for space and bandwidth is much more economical than going thru the cost of setting up a T1 connection and proper security at my location. Cuts down on development time and complications as well.

This move makes the monies donated now and in the future work more efficiently, yielding reliable results and allows me to concentrate on content and less on technical issues. Another whole day and the 2nd broadcast should be ready to air. Stay tuned!

Man I'm glad you did that. I was wondering why you were building all these servers and trying to buy a T1, all of which costs money. Much better to put it on a co-loc or wherever you have it and run it from there. Good thinking. I should have said something earlier. I also do this for a living but I haven't had too much experience with Streaming audio/video, though I plan on being in Missouri at the end of this month and I'm going to be picking some brains of people who ARE doing this successfully. I can send you a pm with some links of people that have set this up with minimal cost and it works. I plan on putting some money into this but I would really like to see a plan and some technical info before I do.

Glad to see the mp3's down to manageable size. Splitting it up into two parts is good, but I'm sure you can get a one hour show at about 20mb or so. A CD will hold a lot of 20mb shows.

No flaming in activism.

Apparently questions from contributors are considered bad form as well.
Joe Snuffy, who has already donated $500, makes a perfectly legitimate query:

So what are the goals for the next six months and what obstacles do you foresee?

What is going to have to be figured out and what will need to be purchased?

To that I'll add:

Specifically what equipment has been purchased thus far ?

That post lay there for six plus hours with no response from Stan, Linder or anybody. Steve gets frustrated and posts a follow up comment that must have hurt someone's feelings. Linder comes out of his cave just long enough to slap his wrist and delete the offending post. Steve B is in for $180 on this project.
That gives him or anyone else who's monetarily involved plenty of licence for some intemperate remarks if he feels they're deserved.

This effort was launched six weeks ago. There has been virtually nothing accomplished that I know of aside from posting one canned broadcast of a panel discussion. Status reports have not been forthcoming. Requests for information have been answered grudgingly (when answered).

Stan has notified the forum that he's changed his mind and won't be using his own server as he originally stated. Okay, that's fine, but that obviously means Stan won't be in a position to host or engineer any live broadcast. Or will he ?
If he can or if he cannot, why hasn't that situation been clearly defined so we can make other arrangements for someone else to do the hosting and engineering if that's necessary ?

How does this work ? Are we supposed to guess where things stand then you let us know if we guessed correctly ? Maybe let's not play that game.
Alex Linder complained long and hard in the past about the lack of information coming from the national alliance. I wonder if he notes any similarities with this project.

There are quite a few people in the audience who want to make this happen and are prepared to contribute whatever resources are necessary to do it. But we need to know what YOU need. Please dispense with the saintly claims of "not wanting to ask." We don't want to wait around until 2019. Go ahead and post what you need. We'll see what we can do.

That is why the frustration level is so high - this effort is moving along at the standard VNN pace of ho-hum, yawn, stretch, scratch, mañana. There isn't the slightest sense of urgency. Direct questions are either ignored or answered with a vague paraphrase of "everything is fine."

MidnightStar14, you out there? Your thoughts and suggestions would be welcome.

Ha, I think Stan is the typical tech: Hard work and no documentation :)

I don't think you have to be near a live server to host a program either, everthing can be run remotely. As far as sticking in a T1 and building servers to run out of someone's house, that is NOT a wise use of money. Just buy more disk space and build virtual servers. Don't EVEN waste money on bandwidth other than what's at the colocation.

I would like to send money too but I'm not going to just throw hard earned cash at something without knowing what's going on, especially when it's got to do with technology. We have the brains here, let's get them together, perhaps offline, to discuss it. I don't think discussing the details of the VNN system in public is a good idea, with all the kikes and faggots reading this forum.

Apparently questions from contributors are considered bad form as well.
Joe Snuffy, who has already donated $500, makes a perfectly legitimate query:

So what are the goals for the next six months and what obstacles do you foresee?

What is going to have to be figured out and what will need to be purchased?

To that I'll add:

Specifically what equipment has been purchased thus far ?

That post lay there for six plus hours with no response from Stan, Linder or anybody. Steve gets frustrated and posts a follow up comment that must have hurt someone's feelings. Linder comes out of his cave just long enough to slap his wrist and delete the offending post. Steve B is in for $180 on this project.
That gives him or anyone else who's monetarily involved plenty of licence for some intemperate remarks if he feels they're deserved.

This effort was launched six weeks ago. There has been virtually nothing accomplished that I know of aside from posting one canned broadcast of a panel discussion. Status reports have not been forthcoming. Requests for information have been answered grudgingly (when answered).

Stan has notified the forum that he's changed his mind and won't be using his own server as he originally stated. Okay, that's fine, but that obviously means Stan won't be in a position to host or engineer any live broadcast. Or will he ?
If he can or if he cannot, why hasn't that situation been clearly defined so we can make other arrangements for someone else to do the hosting and engineering if that's necessary ?

How does this work ? Are we supposed to guess where things stand then you let us know if we guessed correctly ? Maybe let's not play that game.
Alex Linder complained long and hard in the past about the lack of information coming from the national alliance. I wonder if he notes any similarities with this project.

There are quite a few people in the audience who want to make this happen and are prepared to contribute whatever resources are necessary to do it. But we need to know what YOU need. Please dispense with the saintly claims of "not wanting to ask." We don't want to wait around until 2019. Go ahead and post what you need. We'll see what we can do.

That is why the frustration level is so high - this effort is moving along at the standard VNN pace of ho-hum, yawn, stretch, scratch, mañana. There isn't the slightest sense of urgency. Direct questions are either ignored or answered with a vague paraphrase of "everything is fine."

MidnightStar14, you out there? Your thoughts and suggestions would be welcome.

King, you are a good poster and seem to be a stand up guy so I will will respond in kind.

I have not sent Alex 180 dollars. I pledged as much and that was all. As to the post that Alex deleted, I hammered a so-called respected long time poster who spends his time in opp forum and sucks up to a person who IMO is nothing more than a jew troll. This person does nothing for VNN or the tabloid or the radio show but I used language that was inappropriate toward him and Alex was right to delete the offending post.

Now you ask, why have I not made good on my pledge to VNN radio? Why have I not supported tabloid 2, which in my opinion is the best thus far? My answers... and they don't amount to jacksquat...but I'll say it just the same.

1) Tabloid 2 is about the best piece of White Nationalist writing I have seen, ever! A well done 16 page production(the print is a little small for these old eyes) but about 3 people are supporting it, why? Tabloid 1 and 1a got off to a rousing start! Tabloid 2 is dying on the vine! How is that possible? I'll tell ya why..the main rah rah guy got his nuts cut off! Don't offend, Glenn! You're causing displeasure, anger and resentment. We can't have wounded feelings, Glenn! This indignation can't be tolerated, back off! The result....T-2 sells about as good as a jew princess and a Pal stud.

2) The bad news about the second VNN radio show: The first one was good! The second show wasn't so good. It started with Ed Steeles nickel 5 minute rants. As much as I like Steele, I can listen to him anytime on his website. Just a thought...how about Steele on VNN with a current interview with Alex? Also, the echo is gone but now a crackling humming sound hampers the show, especially when Alex talks. In addition, Alex was blaa. Maybe it's the late night diaper changing but Alex just didn't have it, as they say. Personally, and I have said this many times before, it's the wrong format for Alex. Alex is at his best when he's attacked! He shines in the heat of battle! He rises to the challenge. Mundane, commonplace, softball, non-extreme shows is like a top contender heavyweight fighting a sparring partner. Boring!!!!!

3)The good news is that VNN Goyfire has shitcanned the 2001 space Odyssey theme. Rmacs(at least I think it was his) JFK airport jewish deportation act music was inspiring as hell! I also liked the Miller spintro.

4)Agis as the moderator is really starting to impress me. Obviously he has some natural ability or experience in radio that comes through clear as hell. Chain did well again but Agis seemed to overshadow him and Alex.


I just want to say one more thing. It's easy for Monday morning quarterbacks like me to critique winners like Alex, Stan, Agis and Chain. Sometime us benchwarmers get a little jealous of guys throwing touchdowns.

Good job White men!

Ok everyone. I know that my responses to posts here have been slim but with the time I am spending to record, edit, format and post content, I don't have a whole lot of time to spend on the forum. I have 2 more parts to post for the 2nd broadcast which should be up by the late evening in total.

Technically, the second broadcast recording needed more work than #1. There were issues that arose that require extra steps to make the content listenable, as well as adding innovations such as higher file compression. Also, I have been working to develop more permanent delivery vehicles such as streaming code, playlisting and a broadcast web page.

I have to say that the network is in a working/planning phase, constantly evolving. Although we have released content, all of this is still a developing venture, a learning process. Rome wasn't built in a day, neither was the Reich. The jews have 50 years on us when it comes to producing the smooth media that is our competition today. Sure, we could just throw money at it to solve issues but to be truely constructive, understand what we want to accomplish and find the most affordable path takes time.

I had what I can most likely describe as a DOS attack on my server setup right before I announced the debut show, so I moved the content to the VNN server. In the cost of time and money and for obvious security reasons, this move is the right thing to do. As broadcasts multiply in bytes and bandwidth used, server leasing costs are going to go up eventually. So, there is the main expense.

The communications software we have been using is good, although not infallible. The content that has been presented is a culmination of realtime conversation between participants in 3 different time zones to my location. With lag between connections and not being able to physically adjust each contributor's broadcast PC for optimal performance, each recording session has been a learning process for all involved. And that is just the technical end of the software. Add to that trying to have a multi-party discussion without actually being face-to-face and you get some bumps in the road that you have to learn to work through.

This leads me to the live call-in format. It is on the drawing board and is dependent on what we learn by doing these canned broadcasts. When we make the expenditure to allow live calling with the software, it will be with more than a "beginner" understanding of all the processes involved in producing such a broadcast. The last thing we need to do is advertise something like this, go to air, and fall on our faces because we overlooked some critical step or we didn't prepare for some technical issue. I wish I could just push a key or two and all this would magically happen but as an example, it took over 60+ hours of time to produce the debut broadcast of GoyFire. This second one is quickly approaching that number as of today. I'm not complaining, I actually enjoy it. Once the process is generalized and streamlined it shouldn't take that long but because it's new, we have to find the best way to accomplish that.

As I write this we have just completed the weeks taping of GoyFire #3 which I will be editing as soon as I am done posting the final segments of #2. I hope that it will be a smoother process as the technical issues of #2 aren't present in #3, it should be a much quicker ride for me as far as editing.

Alex and I have a meeting tomorrow to discuss the network's direction and further evolution. All points brought up here will be discussed including funds going to purchasing. I will develop an update plan that I will stick with as I have time to inform contributers as to progress and expenditures.

Keep the feedback coming as it helps us to develop this White network.

Hail Victory!!

Server leasing costs we can deal with. Reinventing the wheel is too expensive. Keep it at the colo for now. It would be good to see what is needed.

After Alex and I go over things tomorrow (today now by my clock) I will have an idea to base suggestions upon.

That is why the frustration level is so high - this effort is moving along at the standard VNN pace of ho-hum, yawn, stretch, scratch, mañana. There isn't the slightest sense of urgency. Direct questions are either ignored or answered with a vague paraphrase of "everything is fine."

MidnightStar14, you out there? Your thoughts and suggestions would be welcome.

Yessir,I'm here. After coming back from Dallas after a wedding between two Aryans, I found my own server down. Either one of the script kiddie chuckleheads that have been trying to DoS my server since I advertised it here in my signature finally succeeded or the power went out in my area when I was gone. If "you done it", please PM or email me and tell me how...I'm always curious about such things :)

Thinking back on things,I think Stan's right to ditch the idea I had, considering all the things that can go wrong on each server. One can add the cost of some sort of backup power systems now. However,my plan was to use hardware and connections that people already had. Since I posted before I have run across a few hosting services that run Shoutcast-style streaming services.You'd only need bandwidth for one 'listener' to transmit to the remote server to make that work. Volkermord (http://www.volkermord.com) 's music streaming service is running off one such setup.

It depends on if you want to stick with Internet radio for now or possibly break into FM microbroadcasting. I've been interested in the latter,and my ideas for scattered in-house servers were to be used alongside scattered low-power transmitters that people could tune in to. As for shortwave..Getting our shows onto a station right now is only a matter of money and discussion with a shortwave station. Hal Turner? Calling Mr. Hal Turner??

One positive side effect on Goyfire #2's format is that splitting it up into pieces like that will allow 'affiliates' who do decide to run their own streaming stations can insert their own promos and 'ad space' to help with server/bandwidth costs.

I'm not going to knock anyone for the pace of things here..even after I get off my duff and send some money in instead of just posting off the wall brainstorming :) I know quite well that most of us can't allocate the time we want to use on pro-White media on that; there's just too many other things Superman's got to do as Clark Kent.

Regarding Steve's desire to see Alex in a role of kicking anti ass, I wonder if anyone's asked out local OppForum antis if they'd like to,uhm... 'discuss' issues with the GoyFire hosts?.. maybe issue a challenge over on MootStormfront.org?

Steve B, thank you for your take on the broadcasts, and especially for the $180 you contributed. These things do surely cost, though internet broadcasting is, as we all know, a relatively cheap new medium.

I did want to mention that I asked Alex today, after Goy Fire III, about his responses. He said he has gotten six or seven emails from people he didn't recognize and all the comments were favorable. I've read stats before that one or two responses generally equals 100-200 others who felt the same, but did not contact the source (you know, a newspaper, TV website etc.) OK.
So let's say the ratio is a bt smaller with us, cause our guys are outspoken. Could we fairly guess just 300-500 in the background who didn't email in, but liked it?

Notice too, that Stan has just recently moved the broadcast to a more prominent location on the homepage- much easier to spot for people who don't know where to look.

Stan is working on collating streaming White Power music. Here is the template I think we'd oughta use (sometimes this server gets overloaded cause so many people are tuning in, but I checked. It is working now; I'm listening and is is terrific!) Try listening right now while you surf. Post what you think. :
http://www.volkermord.com/download/volkermord.m3u

Now. Since Panzerfaust and Resistance are defunct, and Byron doesn't yet have all his scene together, we can quickly fill a big gap and keep the listeners too, if we do it right!

It seems that, like voldermord above, if we construct two massive files of music...two 24 hours loops of high quality streaming stuff...we can get on air and construct a third and a fourth 24 hour loop within a week or two. I've listened to voldermord, and it's like regular radio in that you hear your favorites- but you can't keep track of just when you last heard them (OK OK...maybe "8 or 10 hours ago- whatever). See?

But how to build this data base. The four of us sure aren't experts in the music. We don't have it mostly "laying around the house".

Stan, if it is OK with you and you can put out an email address which will accept and hold files (and sniff out antis' potential viruses before they are opened and do damage), could I start a thread soliciting VNN youth (ha ha- old guys too) to shoot you six or eight of their favorite White Power mp3's? We gotta build up a collection- just like a radio station with CD's racked all across the walls.

Also gents- it would be GREAT if you could go to the trouble of retitling (if necessary) your cuts so that they are CORRECT...cause Windows Player, I think it is, streams the title and artist- a cool feature if you are just getting acquaited with a song. This makes listebning a greater, educative pleasure. Just right click and "rename" before sending (correct spellings and titles!) your mp3 files as needed.

As to how the banter is going. If I'm not too humble in saying so- I think we are doing at least as well as Walker and Pringle's old NA show on the Hal Turner network did do. Of course, Alex and I can't possibly hope to equal Walker's intellect, but we can not try.

As far as getting to the overall goal, Stan is the man most making it happen, in my opinion. These hours Stan is putting in are incredible. (Stan and Rounder- the latter on TAA- are both doing so much, it is actually personally embarrassing to me, their continuing dedicated actions via direct contrast with my own). Agis conceieved Goy Fire and Agis is pretty glib and smooth- has quickly functioned easefully as a smartly commentating moderator, greasing the flow. Alex makes it sound too easy. It comes easily for him. But Stan is handling all this tech stuff. We hang up; Stan keeps working a work week and a half of hours. He is even making and editing most of the bumper music spots.

Guys like Steve B are also the other big movers in this project. So please don't feel disappointed or cynical, Steve B. From what I know of Alex and Stan, they both have very high character. It is all happening. Just as "The Aryan Alternative" did so successfully and First Amendment "in ZOG's face" manifest.

Please send musical suggestions and .mp3's to sski@sskiweb.com

If you have any knowledge of P2P sites that have a database of White music, please forward the service information as well.

I went to Kaaza and found a whole bunch of songs just by using White keywords. Most of it was hardcore and some country flavors. It's a start.

Can someone give me some background on David Allen Coe? I've heard his stuff before and he sounded like one of us at first glance but no-one speaks of him too much. What's his story?

Our radio network is evolving in three stages:

1) We produce original, taped shows. So far we have posted two, with a third now being edited for posting later this week. With each show, we gain a better understanding of some of the technical issues involved, and the next becomes easier to produce.

2) With the upload of the third show we will add playlist option featuring our original shows plus other material, running in a loop of X hours' length.

3) Stan is researching the software/services necessary to produce live call-in shows. This takes time. We will not be rushed, and we will not initiate it until we have the system working correctly. Leaving aside the point that we have neither host nor theme.

Where you can help... At this point, we do not need money. It turns out that much of what we want to accomplish can be done without spending on hardware. The real money will come in when we get the loop and the live stuff going, and we have masses of people dialing in or clicking in to listen to the broadcasts.

You should note that Stan is doing all of this for free. If he were charging even half what any professional would charge, the cost would be in the thousands. Without his ability, we wouldn't have any audio online. I am satisfied with the progress we are making. It is worth taking the time to do things right, and that is the VNN way.

Where you can help... First, we need content. We need suggestions for music to use on the playlist, and, even better, we need people producing shows that we can run on the network. So far Roger is pretty much the only one who has done something in this direction.

The playlist/network will begin with our original Goyfire shows (weekly), along with, I speculate, offerings off Malleus' menu at Solar General, Steele rants, maybe some GLR, maybe Lindbergh's Des Moines speech, some good WP music, and I'd like to see some country, and some classical music too. We welcome suggestions, with the proviso that they need to be public access, as otherwise there are fees involved.

As for producing original shows, all you need is a mic and some kind of recording software to create an MP3 file. Ship it to Stan, and if it's good, we can put it on the network. I'm going to be taping some speeches and rants of my own. We need good content. Get involved, don't kibbitz.

King, you are a good poster and seem to be a stand up guy so I will will respond in kind.

I have not sent Alex 180 dollars. I pledged as much and that was all.
Now you ask, why have I not made good on my pledge to VNN radio?

Why have I not supported tabloid 2, which in my opinion is the best thus far?
1) Tabloid 2 is about the best piece of White Nationalist writing I have seen, ever! A well done 16 page production(the print is a little small for these old eyes) but about 3 people are supporting it, why? Tabloid 1 and 1a got off to a rousing start! Tabloid 2 is dying on the vine! How is that possible? I'll tell ya why..the main rah rah guy got his nuts cut off! Don't offend, Glenn! You're causing displeasure, anger and resentment. We can't have wounded feelings, Glenn! This indignation can't be tolerated, back off! The result....T-2 sells about as good as a jew princess and a Pal stud.

Just how is that an answer? Oh I see. No one else is supporting it because of my pal Glenn Miller and that's why I'm not supporting it.

2) The bad news about the second VNN radio show: The first one was good! The second show wasn't so good. It started with Ed Steeles nickel 5 minute rants. As much as I like Steele, I can listen to him anytime on his website. Just a thought...how about Steele on VNN with a current interview with Alex? Also, the echo is gone but now a crackling humming sound hampers the show, especially when Alex talks. In addition, Alex was blaa. Maybe it's the late night diaper changing but Alex just didn't have it, as they say. Personally, and I have said this many times before, it's the wrong format for Alex. Alex is at his best when he's attacked! He shines in the heat of battle! He rises to the challenge. Mundane, commonplace, softball, non-extreme shows is like a top contender heavyweight fighting a sparring partner. Boring!!!!!

More of the same evasion as we saw in the first answer. I pledged $180 well before the first broadcast, but now well after I should have made good on my pledge; I've decided I don't like VNN broadcasting. I'm still a rah-rah guy though. Is Paris' sister still available? My 60 year old brother is looking for some action.

Just how is that an answer? Oh I see. No one else is supporting it because of my pal Glenn Miller and that's why I'm not supporting it.



More of the same evasion as we saw in the first answer. I pledged $180 well before the first broadcast, but now well after I should have made good on my pledge; I've decided I don't like VNN broadcasting. I'm still a rah-rah guy though. Is Paris' sister still available? My 60 year old brother is looking for some action.

Fuck off, dickhead! You slammed me from day one for being Millers rah rah guy and then in the next breath hammer me cuz I don't send in the appropriate amount of cash.

Let me ask you this, bitch. What have you ever done for VNN besides hiding under your sons bed whenever you hear a knock at the door. Punks like you, Intrepid and Doppel are a dime a dozen if not outright trolls or worse!

Good day to you, sir!

I deleted it because it was a personal attack, and whether right or wrong, I don't want flaming on activist threads. Start it up in the Lounge, not here.

You tell him, Steve, no one does anything for VNN but you anyway! You must have gotten into the catnip again. I ran into this earlier today, I thought maybe you were alluding to me, but wasn't at all sure, not being a flaming narcissist I don't assume everything is about me.

Steve, I honestly don't know WTF you're talking about? You posted something that Alex felt compelled to delete? I'd sure like to read it, if that is in fact true.

As far as Vaughn is concerned, just the fact that everyone here hates him makes him fun by default to joke around with, but the most fun I have with the guy by far is fucking with you! :D

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=10161&page=7&pp=10&highlight=assignation
That's what I like about you, Steve, you never disappoint.

'Shirley, I am the most entertaining poster on VNN, bar-hopping none. My relationship with 'Pari, as I call her, is none of anyones business and the particulars of our association that I posted on VNN caused me no end of protestation on her part.

As too the fraudulent misnomer that you call "Vaughn", or as some announce as 'queenie, I have nothing to say other than sex change operations have a way of going awry.

The offending post that Alex deleted was related to your lack of virility and emasculation that I felt should be addressed. Alex felt otherwise and upon careful consideration I agreed.

In short, the loss of power and masculinity of White males is more apparent in some than in others but should not be brought to the forefront of VNN threads that deal with important topics such as the broadcasting network.

Just let me say this: DHEA can work wonders with testosterone challenged WN's like you and Sutter. In fact, you might find that after using it a desire of women will occur instead of the helpless lack of vigor you feel for Intrepid! :D

Fuck off, dickhead! You slammed me from day one for being Millers rah rah guy and then in the next breath hammer me cuz I don't send in the appropriate amount of cash.

Let me ask you this, bitch. What have you ever done for VNN besides hiding under your sons bed whenever you hear a knock at the door. Punks like you, Intrepid and Doppel are a dime a dozen if not outright trolls or worse!

Good day to you, sir!

I think you are suffering from the DT's or advanced stages of alcoholism. I have never slammed you at all. You know, I used to slam Doc Martin for being delusional and a defective, who would come on this forum to tell wild B.S stories in order to gain admiration and approval. I now owe him an apology. Doc Martin in his wildest dreams never cooked up cock and bull stories of your caliber.

You're just a sad, pathetic loser trying to make up for your lack of real-life accomplishments by coming on this forum and telling your shithouse, locker-room Bullshit. You talked a good game for a while, but now you have lost all credibility.

Just let me say this: DHEA can work wonders with testosterone challenged WN's like you and Sutter. In fact, you might find that after using it a desire of women will occur instead of the helpless lack of vigor you feel for Intrepid! :D

Well tough guy, I suggest you take Antabuse to help you along in life. Maybe you can sober-up with the help of this medication. Then you wouldn't have to come on the forum to compensate for your alcohol induced E.D. ;)


http://spahp.creighton.edu/mental_health/Chapter%205.htm

This thread seems to have degenerated, all of a sudden.

But anyway, I would like to express my approval for the latest VNN broadcast. Good luck guys! :)

This thread seems to have degenerated, all of a sudden.

But anyway, I would like to express my approval for the latest VNN broadcast. Good luck guys! :)

Thanks. New show taped this afternoon. Stan will let us know when it will be posted.

Ya'll shouldn't be getting cap'n fancy pants all excited. Lookeheah, I'm gawn to the gym. As soon as I get back, I want all ya'll to hug and make up. If you don't, I'm going to slap Lagergeld silly.

Thanks. New show taped this afternoon. Stan will let us know when it will be posted.

Excellent. Now if VNN'ers who've received their boxes of TAAs will distribute them ASAP, there'll be lots of new listeners. And lots and lots more listeners when VNN'ers have ordered and distributed the whole batch of 20,000. (hint hint)

I have noticed a problem on the VNN main page. I am using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.2 and the VNN page displays like this (attached):

Whereas with IE, it looks OK, the sidebar shows up at the top.

Methinks your HTML TABLEs are malformatted.

upgrade to version 1.7 Joe and let me know what you see then

upgrade to version 1.7 Joe and let me know what you see then
Stan, in between bouts of playing "hide the pudding pop" with the fairly-attractive-for-a-nigress wife and hearing that my son Theo is on something called "the down low", I'd like to listen to VNN Radio. The problem is that despite being a non threatening Negro professional, DSL is not available in my area. I'm stuck with 56k and the broken up shows at even 5mg don't stream. It's extremely frustraing cuz you still have to pretty much download the whole segment before you can listen to it. When are you gonna start streaming the shows properly? Can't ya help a brutha out? :confused:

I was at my other place this weekend and it's so remote I can't even get cable, let alone DSL. I did some testing and it's definitely not streaming. I know it's not my system because I can hit another site and they stream perfectly.

The Shoutcast program was installed on the server yesterday following the recording session of the next Goyfire segments. I have to work today on configuring it and whatever playlists are involved. If all goes smoothly we should be streaming sometime today. Hopefully, it is as easy as the instructions say it is.

It's Mozilla Firefox I'm using, most recent ver is 1.0.3, I will try that. I will also try plain vanilla Mozilla 1.7.7, it's downloading right now.

edit: Strange font tags only in Firefox.

Hmm, it does seem as though the problem is with Firefox, all the crazy FONT tags don't show up in IE either.

Okay, so I upgraded Firefox to 1.0.3, and it doesn't do the stupid font thing in the source, but VNN main page still looks the same as before with the sidebar at the bottom.

Tried Mozilla 1.7.7, same problem.
Tried Netscape 8.0 Beta, same problem.

Could another VNNF member with a non-IE browser confirm this?

I noticed some problems with the source, like the closing TABLE tag (missing) on the last table.

I had my wife take a look and it was fine. Did you clear your internet temp files?

I had my wife take a look and it was fine. Did you clear your internet temp files?

I have all my browsers set to delete history, cookies, and cache upon close. You can't do that with IE, which is why I don't use IE.

I'm a big fan of VNN, I'm not trying to be an a*hole with this.

I am just trying to let you know that visitors using alternative browsers are going to have a problem viewing the main page. FYI none of those browsers have a problem with the Forum, it's just the main page sidebar.

Could another VNNF member with a non-IE browser confirm this?
Yes. I'm using Mozilla's Camino 8.3 for Mac OSX and am experiencing the same problem.

Yes, VNN is streaming it's audio broadcasts of Goyfire now. Visit http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnnmmc.htm to test drive the additions. This is the next step in bringing 24/7 Internet broadcasting to Whites everywhere.

The next Goyfire broadcast should be ready later today so stay tuned!

Yes, VNN is streaming it's audio broadcasts of Goyfire now. Visit http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnnmmc.htm to test drive the additions. This is the next step in bringing 24/7 Internet broadcasting to Whites everywhere.

The next Goyfire broadcast should be ready later today so stay tuned!
Try compressing those files to a smaller size to avoid constant rebuffering. Other than that, good job! :D

Try compressing those files to a smaller size to avoid constant rebuffering. Other than that, good job! :D

I squashed them to 56kbs to start. As the reviews come in I will calculate the bare minimum. I'll only dip into the welfare cheeez as needed. :D

Im also checking thru my 56k connection on my laptop with phone line.

I think you are suffering from the DT's or advanced stages of alcoholism. I have never slammed you at all. You know, I used to slam Doc Martin for being delusional and a defective, who would come on this forum to tell wild B.S stories in order to gain admiration and approval. I now owe him an apology. Doc Martin in his wildest dreams never cooked up cock and bull stories of your caliber.

You're just a sad, pathetic loser trying to make up for your lack of real-life accomplishments by coming on this forum and telling your shithouse, locker-room Bullshit. You talked a good game for a while, but now you have lost all credibility.

Thank you sir, may I have another! No offense AS but you remind me of that guy Doug Neidermeyer from the movie Animal House. You know the type, likes to dress up like General Patton -- chrome helmet and all -- carry a swagger-stick and ride a white horse.
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The problem with Neidy is he ain't Patton! In fact his character is too real to be funny. What the Neidermeyers/AS's of the world want most is power and respect. The power and respect denied them as children. They love uniforms, spit-polished shoes and fancy sidearms, hoping these accoutrements will hide their inadequacy. But like the character in the film, he never quite makes it. Dougie always screws up. He screws up because he isn't the real thing. He is a "wannabe." He hides in groups of legitimate White Nationalist in order to bask in the respect due them.

When I was in the army we called clowns like you chairborne rangers. Basically, knothead gung ho chickenshits who sat in chairs while others did the fighting.

The good news Augie, is your not quite as bad as the Doppels and Intrepids of the world. I shall elaborate.

I see Doppel as sort of a Greg Marmalard type. Conservative, preppy brat. Contemptible, soulless, obnoxious rat-fink who is assistant to the disciplinary school board of Dean Wormer aka Intrepid and never fails to butter him up.

Intrepid/Dean Wormer/Richard Nixon: "The time has come for someone to put his foot down, and that foot is me. "All of VNN's disciplinary files are right here before me and as of now you are on Double SECRET Probation!!!

"I hate those VNN guys"!

Me? Most think I am a overweight, drunken slob named Bluto who steals the show but in fact I am Eric 'Otter' Stratton who really acts as the intellectual brains of the group, especially when it comes to delightfully ingenious antics.
http://www.candy-fans.com/matheson/films/animal_house/t_an12.jpg

But, I say to you AS! You can't hold a whole White Nationalist board responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole White male system? And if the whole Gentile system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our ZOG educational institutions in general? I put it to you, AG and Doppel - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

I squashed them to 56kbs to start. As the reviews come in I will calculate the bare minimum. I'll only dip into the welfare cheeez as needed. :D

Im also checking thru my 56k connection on my laptop with phone line.

56K is a bit too much for modem connections due to the overhead of connection protocols. It sounds just fine on DSL,though.

Compressing the mp3 streams below 24K would be an aid to users who can't get faster modem connections, but itz really going to be torture on people's ears. Go listen to GCN (http://www.gcnlive.com) or RBN (http://www.rbnlive.com) at 8K or 16K to see what I mean.

If you are suffering with a modem that's slower than 56K, post in another forum and maybe we can put together a fund to upgrade our fellow VNNers' connections. :)

Okay, so I upgraded Firefox to 1.0.3, and it doesn't do the stupid font thing in the source, but VNN main page still looks the same as before with the sidebar at the bottom.

Tried Mozilla 1.7.7, same problem.
Tried Netscape 8.0 Beta, same problem.

Could another VNNF member with a non-IE browser confirm this?

I noticed some problems with the source, like the closing TABLE tag (missing) on the last table.

Opera 7.23 on the Windows platform displays the sidebar properly.

Adding the "</table>" tag did fix the problem when editing in DreamWeaver,but didn't fix the sidebar's alignment in Firefox 1.0.3.

Thank you sir, may I have another! No offense AS but you remind me of that guy Doug Neidermeyer from the movie Animal House. You know the type, likes to dress up like General Patton -- chrome helmet and all -- carry a swagger-stick and ride a white horse.

The problem with Neidy is he ain't Patton! In fact his character is too real to be funny. What the Neidermeyers/AS's of the world want most is power and respect. The power and respect denied them as children. They love uniforms, spit-polished shoes and fancy sidearms, hoping these accoutrements will hide their inadequacy. But like the character in the film, he never quite makes it. Dougie always screws up. He screws up because he isn't the real thing. He is a "wannabe." He hides in groups of legitimate White Nationalist in order to bask in the respect due them.

When I was in the army we called clowns like you chairborne rangers. Basically, knothead gung ho chickenshits who sat in chairs while others did the fighting.

The good news Augie, is your not quite as bad as the Doppels and Intrepids of the world. I shall elaborate.

I see Doppel as sort of a Greg Marmalard type. Conservative, preppy brat. Contemptible, soulless, obnoxious rat-fink who is assistant to the disciplinary school board of Dean Wormer aka Intrepid and never fails to butter him up.

Intrepid/Dean Wormer/Richard Nixon: "The time has come for someone to put his foot down, and that foot is me. "All of VNN's disciplinary files are right here before me and as of now you are on Double SECRET Probation!!!

"I hate those VNN guys"!

Me? Most think I am a overweight, drunken slob named Bluto who steals the show but in fact I am Eric 'Otter' Stratton who really acts as the intellectual brains of the group, especially when it comes to delightfully ingenious antics.

But, I say to you AS! You can't hold a whole White Nationalist board responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole White male system? And if the whole Gentile system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our ZOG educational institutions in general? I put it to you, AG and Doppel - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Look Steve, I'm not going to respond to this little comic book you have put together. You made a big deal in another thread about how you were going to double or triple D.H's contribution which came up to $180, and then you welched. It's that simple. In this thread your explanation for your lack of support for the tabloid and VNN radio was an amazing non- sequitur. Still though, you have plenty of hypocrisy left in your old bones to come on here and call others "wannabees" and "Neidermeyers".

You are like a high school girl who wants to break into what she sees as the popular girls click. You are always ready to pucker-up for Linder or Miller, and you think your sycophancy puts you on the right side of things. You are hanging with the in-crowd, huh Stevie?

How, in your mind, I am in Intrepid's camp is truly a wonder. Everyone knows we are such great pals, and I have always been on his side, backing him up 100%.

Time to sober up.

Come on gentlemen. This is about VNN broadcasting.
Augustus Sutter has the point, Steve B.

No more of the back and forth.

Steve B.'s $180 is awaited.

http://radiowhiteaustin.hopto.org/goyfire_24k/

Here's the current Goyfire episodes compressed to a 24K bit rate. That should be small enough to stream without buffering for most of our modem users.



Very good. I will convert all the files down to that level of 24K. It's been a real learning experience so far, and I want to thank you MidnightStar14 for your technical advice, and thank those VNNers that have supported the project so far.

We have kept the costs minimal to date so that we have little to worry about financially when costs crop up for hosting and bandwidth, as well as puchases that will be made to continue us to the next phase, a live call-in streaming format.

Today has me finish-editing this weeks Goyfire. We have come a long way from talking about doing this stuff to doing it. Working together, we will soon have a loud White voice that will not be ignored. "Uncle jewy(tm R. MacDonald :D )" will of course take notice, but Whites need an informative, factual voice that rings loud and clear. A beacon over the drone of jew background noise.

In closing, I want to thank Alex and all VNNers for allowing me the opportunity to work for all of you, for VNN, for the White Race. Ever since I found VNN back in 2000, I have wanted to do everything I could to help, using the talents and knowledge I have cultivated for years. It's a great example of what happens when Whites are in charge - they inspire, create and improve their existence.

Back to work :D

I have all my browsers set to delete history, cookies, and cache upon close. You can't do that with IE, which is why I don't use IE.

I'm a big fan of VNN, I'm not trying to be an a*hole with this.

I am just trying to let you know that visitors using alternative browsers are going to have a problem viewing the main page. FYI none of those browsers have a problem with the Forum, it's just the main page sidebar.

You're correct. I use Mozilla and have see the same thing. I'm not sure how to change the code to fix it, and since it's up there, albeit at the bottom, have juts left it alone for the time being.

In closing, I want to thank Alex and all VNNers for allowing me the opportunity to work for all of you, for VNN, for the White Race. Ever since I found VNN back in 2000, I have wanted to do everything I could to help, using the talents and knowledge I have cultivated for years. It's a great example of what happens when Whites are in charge - they inspire, create and improve their existence.

Back to work :D

Thanks to Stan for making all this happen - I certainly could not have done it myself. Step by step we will create a full-fledged radio network. Thanks to all you donating money and technical expertise, we very much appreciate it.

Again, we're still looking for talent. We need people who can meet our standards to produce original content to go on the network. This can be speeches, humor, music -- whatever you have to offer that is of sufficient quality to make it worth listening to.

Looks like this is really rolling along real good. I haven't been able to contribute much as my newfound WN views are conflicting with my xtian spouse's beliefs, some tooth and nail going on here, it won't last.

Anyway, I had a couple of ideas maybe you could use. Hopefully I can get some cash to you soon also.

I was thinking of a spoof of one of these public service type announcements, a 'Word of the day', where the announcer pronounces one of the created words on the VNN homepage and then gives a definition;

Mexishit = Stinking ooz that flows from the Southern borders of the US, caused by untamed jewry. Causes low wages, disease, public service overload, and a multitude of other social ills.

or something to that effect, just a little tidbit to throw in. Also maybe a 'Did you know?' type bit, where a telling little racial factoid is given.

Great idea Ericthered! Those would make nice informative bumpers between programs. If you can think some more up it would be greatly appreciated. Content is always welcome for broadcasts.

Forgot to mention that I am willing to compile a list of factoids for the bit I mention, might hit the forum up for suggestions along with the sources. I thought it might be good to have a page where one could go to refer to these or check out the source. I am willing to put that page together also.

As for the "Word of the Day", I think the man himself should do that one. Nobody can match his way with words. Needs to have a authoritative, official sounding announcer to make it sound good. I don't have the voice for that one, but am willing on the other if needed.

Let me know what I can do.

Forgot to mention that I am willing to compile a list of factoids for the bit I mention, might hit the forum up for suggestions along with the sources. I thought it might be good to have a page where one could go to refer to these or check out the source. I am willing to put that page together also.

As for the "Word of the Day", I think the man himself should do that one. Nobody can match his way with words. Needs to have a authoritative, official sounding announcer to make it sound good. I don't have the voice for that one, but am willing on the other if needed.

Let me know what I can do.

You have the ideas so if you can come up with the content, and need someone to voice it, that can be taken care of. If you can record your ideas yourself, even better because you know what you want to hear. Any technical help you would need in that regard, just let me know. email alex directly at in regard to the "word for the day" at alinder@kvmo.net. Contact me directly at sski@sskiweb.com.