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SheerTerror
March 24th, 2005, 10:39 AM
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7190

The first remains of ancient Egyptian seagoing ships ever to be recovered have been found in two caves on Egypt's Red Sea coast, according to a team at Boston University in the US.

The team also found fragments of pottery at the site, which could help resolve controversies about the extent of ancient Egyptian trade voyages. But details of the newly disclosed finds remain sketchy.

Kathryn Bard, who co-led the dig with Italian archaeologists in December 2004, has revealed to the Boston University weekly community newsletter that the team found a range of items - including timbers and riggings - inside the man-made caves, located at the coastal Pharaonic site of Wadi Gawasis.

According to the report, pottery in the caves could date at least some of the artefacts to a famous 15th century BC naval expedition by Queen Hatshepsut to the mysterious, incense-producing land of Punt. This voyage is depicted in detailed reliefs on Queen Hatshepsut's temple on the west bank of the Nile, near modern-day Luxor.

Bard declined to speak to New Scientist. But the find is exciting, says John Baines, professor of Egyptology at the University of Oxford, UK, who has been in contact with Bard. "These finds put flesh on what we might have imagined," he says. Gold and ebony

The pottery finds include items the Italian researchers think could be from Yemen - a potential candidate for the modern identity of Punt. The ancient Egyptians sourced a variety of exotic wares in Punt, including gold, ebony and incense.

"The Yemeni pottery is very interesting because it was suspected that there were contacts across the Red Sea - and this proves that there were," Baines says.

The naval artefacts included two curved cedar planks which might have been parts of steering oars. But linking these to Queen Hatshepsut's famous voyage might be a little too specific, he says.

"Kathryn [Bard] has told me the pottery is early New Kingdom, and we know of no other expedition to Punt in that period, so it is a reasonable guess. But we also have to bear in mind that almost everything from antiquity is lost, so there could well have been other voyages."

It is not clear exactly why the artefacts were sealed up inside the caves. But it is possible that they were offerings to the Egyptian gods. "That sounds very plausible to me, not least because previous excavations found a structure made of stone anchors that could again be some sort of thanks-offering," says Baines.

The team plans to return to the caves in December 2005 to continue their excavations.

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Border Ruffian
March 25th, 2005, 01:07 AM
Only related image I can find so far.

http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2005/03-18/archaeologist.html
http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2005/03-18/photos/archaeology01.jpg Rope and bag from the cave.

SheerTerror
March 25th, 2005, 09:17 AM
Thanks! I couldn't find any pics at all.

I think this is pretty exciting...this offers more evidence of Egyptian contact with ancient S. American and Amazonian cultures, like the Incas and Maya. To me, there's such insane similarities in their myths that some Egyptians HAD to have ruled and set up some of those pretty impressive cultures. Especially the Maya- they had the world's most accurate calendar system, even to date.

Only related image I can find so far.

http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2005/03-18/archaeologist.html
http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2005/03-18/photos/archaeology01.jpg Rope and bag from the cave.

Whirlwind
March 25th, 2005, 11:10 AM
Envision the trade route still in evidence across the North African coast extending to Brazil. They got cocaine and tobacco somewhere. Can't help but note that though both civilizations were likely created by the same group, the injuns in S.America did not create the Mayan culture. Perhaps the Egyptians were not the originators of their culture either. Light skinned group creates, overcome by more numerous lesser browns. History of the world we know.

Charlie_Bass
March 30th, 2005, 10:31 AM
Can't help but note that though both civilizations were likely created by the same group, the injuns in S.America did not create the Mayan culture.

do you have some evidence for this or is this wishful speculation?



Perhaps the Egyptians were not the originators of their culture either. Light skinned group creates, overcome by more numerous lesser browns. History of the world we know.

Ludricrous lies! Of course the originators of Egyptian civilization were native Egyptians and they were not whites.

SheerTerror
March 30th, 2005, 11:13 AM
Read and learn:

http://www.barnesreview.org/Feb_2004/Egyptians/egyptians.html

do you have some evidence for this or is this wishful speculation?





Ludricrous lies! Of course the originators of Egyptian civilization were native Egyptians and they were not whites.

zodiac17603
March 30th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Read March of the Titans ... That should clear things up.

There's proof in the mummies .... Egypt went down as they mixed with their black slaves.

Charlie_Bass
March 30th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Read March of the Titans ... That should clear things up.

There's proof in the mummies .... Egypt went down as they mixed with their black slaves.

A website by a South African white supremacist is a good starting point for a black/Native-American like myself.

Firestone
March 30th, 2005, 12:15 PM
A website by a South African white supremacist is a good starting point for a black/Native-American like myself.

What evidence do you have that the ancient Egyptians were black or indeed were not white, apart from mainstream stuff written by multi cult PC Afrocentric perverts?

Whirlwind
March 30th, 2005, 03:25 PM
If you are truly part injun, charlie; where did you get that likely haplo group "X" marker from? Your ancestors killed/ate/bred out the Whites who were in N.America, before your ancestors.
If you have internet access, there is no reason for you to be unaware of inconvenient historical truths. Anasazi artifacts are a good place to start. Central American civilizations all have artifacts and murals depicting Whites.
From China, throught India, across Europe and the middle east, all the way to N.America, across the Pacific past Easter Island to Asia again. White history is global.
Before you nitpick: I am not suggesting the above as Whites path through history. Only some highlights from our past.
March of the Titans is soooo much closer to being possible than the crap they fed you in school.

Charlie_Bass
March 30th, 2005, 03:54 PM
If you are truly part injun, charlie; where did you get that likely haplo group "X" marker from? Your ancestors killed/ate/bred out the Whites who were in N.America, before your ancestors.

Actually, the earliest skeletal remains in South American closely resemble Ainu, sub-Saharan Africans, Melanesians, and Australian Aborigines. Kennwick man was not white, if you're supposing the X marker came from him or people who superficially resembling him.

As for haplogroup X, it only makes up 3% of North American mtDNA and it didn't come from whites since it is now believed to have came from Southern Siberia as a founding lineage.



If you have internet access, there is no reason for you to be unaware of inconvenient historical truths. Anasazi artifacts are a good place to start. Central American civilizations all have artifacts and murals depicting Whites.

Post these murals depicting white men, your people had nothing to do with Meso-American civilizations. Arthur Kemp should restrict his racist gospel to Europe.




From China, throught India, across Europe and the middle east, all the way to N.America, across the Pacific past Easter Island to Asia again. White history is global.
Before you nitpick: I am not suggesting the above as Whites path through history. Only some highlights from our past.
March of the Titans is soooo much closer to being possible than the crap they fed you in school.

Lies.

Whirlwind
March 31st, 2005, 08:20 AM
Where'd they all get red hair from? See those heads on Easter Island, some have red caps. That is their hair. Tell me how your version allows for redheads in the South Pacific. Looking for links and pictures will be as valuable as trying to teach this to my dog. Go look yourself. There have already been several threads on this topic in this forum.

Stallion
March 31st, 2005, 08:11 PM
I've never heard about Egyptians being white, but they did know and respect the clear boundaries between the races. One of their famous inscriptions(I'd scan it if I could) showed a racial chart, with the Egyptians as being ruddy and wearing skirts, Semites as being dark skinned and hook nosed, Phoenicians with white skin and cloaks, and negroes as very black.
Whether they bred themselves out or not, they did have a racial boundary.

Whirlwind
March 31st, 2005, 10:16 PM
That's why you read all the garbage about inbreeding. Claims they are perverts cover the racial angle. They had dwindling choices. Once they accepted mud as their equal, into their heirarchy, they were doomed. Like countless civilizations before them, and since. There is a group still around from those times. That is well aware of this repeating drama. The same ones that are telling you the Egyptians were perverts, because they paired up with family. Control the knowledge of the past to gain the advantage of foresight.