The Book of Ancient Revelations by Hugh Fox


Reading Hugh Fox makes a good companion to news about Kennewick Man. Lots more to the story of the Ancient World (and the Ancient Americas) than the establishment press wants you to think.


This interview is part of EcceNova's author page and a good introduction to Fox.


http://www.eccenova.com/ancient_revelations.htm

Many critics have said you are perhaps the most knowledgeable person viz a viz the ancient Americas. Why?

Well, I'm the one who discovered that Mochica Indian pots in Peru are filled with Phoenician writing, and that all the drawings on the Mochica pots deal with Hercules mythology. I have long argued that the Phoenicians (probably from Spain, specifically Cadiz) colonized the Peruvian coast some time around 300 B.C.E.


But what about all the other tribes in South, Middle, and North America?

The Mochica-Phoenician connection was just the beginning. One day in La Paz, Bolivia, a Bolivian archaeologist showed me a pot covered with "letters." I checked the "letters" out in Das Schrift, a scholarly work on alphabets, and discovered they were ancient Phoenician, the Byblos Script, dating from the time of King Solomon. And I remembered the biblical story of King Hiram of Tyre making a pact with King Solomon to go across the ocean to get gold. Gold from the Andes! That meant the Phoenicians from Lebanon were in the Andes much, much earlier than had been thought. One day, I was talking to an Indian in the Atacama Desert in Chile and he pointed to some distant mountains and said "El Rey Solomón estaba alli en los tiempos antiguos...asi dicen los indios de aca/ King Solomon was there in ancient times...that's what the Indians from here say." Also, some years ago, I discovered a Phoenician presence on the West coast of Mexico. Take a look at my book The Gods of the Cataclysm, published some decades back by Harper's Magazine Press.


What is the significance of the Phoenicians having been in the New World (Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, etc.) in ancient times?

One day, I was at Tiawanaku, Bolivia, the most impressive ruins in the New World (for the most part the stones of the pyramids, etc. were used for building La Paz, when the Spaniards arrived) and I saw some letters on a statue there. Again, back to Das Schrift. I discovered that the letters spelled out TI-A-NAKU, and I instantly remembered the ancient Sumerian epic “Gilgamesh,” about a voyage across the ocean to ANAKU, where the apples of immortality grew. The apples of immortality...hmm ...remember the German myths about Valhalla that Wagner used in his Ring operas? The gods eat the apples of immortality in order to remain youthful. I had found a link between the Home of the Gods, the apples of immortality, and Tiawanaku, Bolivia....



The apples of immortality? Isn't that this "talk"?

Not really. I found an article in the Annual Reports of the Smithsonian Institution about people in Ecuador living to be 130 years old... plus...eating the "apples of immortality" that grow in the Andes and in the areas between the mountains and coast. Then I started comparing the language of the Incas with Arabic (Sumeria was where Iraq is now) and discovered that the Peruvian Indians spoke a Semitic language from the ancient Middle East. APU is Quechua (the language of the Incas) for FATHER, in Arabic it's ABU, in Hebrew it's ABBA...the Quechua- speakers were originally from the Middle East. Throw out all your theories about ancient peoples crawling across the Bering Strait during the ice-ages!

What about this idea of the "home of the gods?" What significance does that have?

The New World was the real place behind many ancient myths. Homer’s “The Odyssey,” for example, is about a voyage to the Land of the Sun-King. What it was based on was a voyage to Tiawanaku, Bolivia. Mount Meru, the home of the gods in Hindu myth, is Tiawanaku. Place, after place, after place in the ancient “Old World” myths is based on a real place in the New World.

Why did you write The Book of Ancient Revelations?


I think that if we paid more attention to the solar-lunar religion of the ancients, we could be more balanced and live more in harmony with our natural world. Also I think research has to begin on the use of Datura and other plants to prolong life. The "apples of immortality" aren't imaginary, but a bio-chemical reality. Also, it's time to revise our concept of the ancient Americas and recognize their significance to ancient myth and spiritual reality. I see my work as merely the beginning of years and years of research and rethinking history, mythology, theology, and the biochemistry of survival.

Thank-you for that introduction. Academia knows there is evidence of cocaine consumption in Egyptian mummies. But they still teach the other story. injuns didn't build those cultures in a vacuum. Indeed, they were involved in the construction as laborers, not advisors. What stories did the conquistadors hear to make them travel to the "new" world to seek gold? And who told them? Someone had been there.

Semitic Phoenicians exploited Aryan Europe and they seem to have exploited the rest of the world as well.

The Phoenicians were merchants and slave traders, everybody hated them for being "jews", and one day they completely disappeared. Their language was Hebrew, or "identical to Hebrew" as the hebe scholars put it.

By your example, there must have been something to exploit. If they "exploited Aryan Europe", and "exploited the rest of the world as well", there must have been civilizations predating the Phoenicians.

Maybe, but I think it was more like whites trading beads to the Indians in America. I think Europe had produce and furs ? , and the Phoenicians had "bling bling", which Europe had never seen before. The Phoenicians accumulated huge wealth in their cities, so I read.

Europe was thoroughly antisemitic thanks to the Phoenicians long before the Christian Era, that should be made common knowledge.

Phoenicians usually followed where others led.

The most compelling evidence for European activity in Pre-Columbian activity in the Americas is the hundreds of millions of tons of mined copper from the Great Lakes Region, mostly Michigan's Upper Peninsula. The mining companies who have researched this have firmly dated the commencement of copper extraction to the second millenium BC -- long before the Phoenicians sailed anywhere.

Fox's evidence is for the later era. But he sure mentions the earlier era. Gilgamesh and Hercules had nothing to do with Phoenicia. These were both part of cultures that were older. There's lots of evidence that they were here for a long time.

Anyone who likes Fox might enjoy Barry Fell, a flinty Welshman who travelled all over America for evidence of these earlier explorers and miners and builders. His America B.C. is sort of compendium of information about this activity, culled from all his years of research.

But more specifically his Bronze Age America is a real classic that more WNs should know about. Fell chronicles a Northern European king who travelled to copper country and set up the mining operations to begin with, in about 1800 BC. Fell uses the epigraphic evidence left by the miners themselves and he recreates the Bronze Age tongue they spoke, a very early Nordic language.

Worth a look just to know Kennewick Man is no more than the tip of the iceburg.

Phoenicians usually followed where others led.

The most compelling evidence for European activity in Pre-Columbian activity in the Americas is the hundreds of millions of tons of mined copper from the Great Lakes Region, mostly Michigan's Upper Peninsula. The mining companies who have researched this have firmly dated the commencement of copper extraction to the second millenium BC -- long before the Phoenicians sailed anywhere.

Fox's evidence is for the later era. But he sure mentions the earlier era. Gilgamesh and Hercules had nothing to do with Phoenicia. These were both part of cultures that were older. There's lots of evidence that they were here for a long time.



Basically, this 'expert' is just mixing languages and cultures up in a stupid manner. Sumerian, yeah right.

Oh, here's a site:

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/poko2.htm

This strikes me as the kind of scholarship which can be described as 'severely delusional'. But if you like Sumerian, notice that the sign of the cross = Mash (Messiah in Hebrew)

From Abzug Hoffman's link ( http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/poko2.htm
is the quote: Sumerians set sail to the land west of the Mediterranean that they called the "Tin land of the West" or "Sunset Land"

West from the meditteranean is the Atlantic and a short hop up the Bay of Biscay to the ancient Tin deposits of the southern UK region of Cornwall where Phoenician tin trading is known to have done at St Michael's Mount (a UK island in Cornwall daily disconnected from the mainland by Tidal flow). Commercial Tin trading that pre-dated the Phoenician period, fed by the product of an ancient mining industry that was in continuous production for thousands of years, and which only stopped in Cornwall a few years back.

'Sunset land' and 'Sumer set land' was allegedly the region around the island of Ynys Wittryn ('Isle of Glass') now known as Glastonbury in the semantically linked region of Somerset.

The Romans followed the Phoenicians. Instead of peaceful Trade, the Romans invaded Britain, seeking to acquire a stake in, amongst other things, Cornwall's Tin deposits used as an alloy in Bronze a strategic military material and important trading commodity in its day.

The Phoenician traders acquired Tin mined in Cornwall near the 'Sumer Set' region of England - a more plausible location than Peru? for their commodity trading.

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The Phoenician traders acquired Tin mined in Cornwall near the 'Sumer Set' region of England - a more plausible location than Peru? for their commodity trading.

Probably. In Sailing to Paradise James Bailey advances the case that copper was widely mined from both North and South America well before the Romans (concentrating around the mid-Bronze Age, maybe 14th Century BC).

In this scenario the American copper was brought over with tin being picked up from England, which served as a base of operations. It would make sense that way, and might explain (some) of Britain's old megalith culture. They'd have been an extremely strategic location.

The end of the Bronze Age, with the destruction of entire cultures, is consistent with fragile and far-flung trade relationships breaking down. The trouble with researching this area is that histories did not survive much past 1200 BC, except for Egypt.

Because there's lots of physical evidence and not much history to go with it, you have to be careful who you read. Abzug's link is a good example of the fantasy that seeps in when non-specialists get creative. Fell, Fox, Bailey and even Frank Joseph are much better with the source material. They don't speculate very much beyond the evidence.

The Romans are a prickly subject in all this. They came very late, when the real Bronze Age had been remembered only as fable, e.g. Homer. It's like they were scavengers picking up after the Phoenicians who were scavengers themselves. Had the old Minoan and Egyptian sea leagues not existed, the Phoenicians probably would never have sailed at all.

Evola compares the mythic traditions of Aryan nations in "revolt against the modern world" particularly the notion of Hyberborea, an ancient northern polar homeland, and "the west" as an ancient source of knolwdedge and tradition such as atlantis--

I will check this book out, Bronze Age America.

Thanks for the suggestion. I hate to be the only guy here suggesting interesting reading.

Great thread!

What does Arthur Kemp, author of March of the Titans, have to say about the Phoenicians. First, they weren't jews. They were a mixture of White, semitic, and jew. And the proportion of each waned and waxed depending on which race was in primary ascendancy at the time. (The "Mediterraneans" are a White race, now extinct. The ancient Egyptians were primarily Mediterranean Whites, mixed with a lesser number of Nordic Whites, who tended to be the rulers.)

Here's what Kemp says:

PHOENICIANS - FOREMOST TRADERS OF THEIR TIME

A number of other smaller White civilizations sprang up at this time in this region, each of them contributing in their own way to the advancement of civilization. Amongst them were the Phoenicians, who through trade established themselves as a powerful nation in the Mediterranean. Their home base was in present day Lebanon, an area which they had occupied by the year 2700 BC.

Although originally a Mediterranean people, there is evidence to suggest that during their long stay in Lebanon and Palestine, the Phoenicians absorbed a fair amount of Semitic blood, being ruled by the Hebrews for a significant period of time.

However, the Phoenicians were also ruled by the Egyptians and Hittites in turn, and by this time had started to exhibit the physical characteristics associated with Nordic, Mediterranean and Semites. The Phoenicians were then a mix of Old European, Indo-European and Semitic speaking peoples.

The Phoenicians are credited with the creation of the modern alphabet - this is a slight exaggeration. The Phoenicians took the semi-alphabet script developed by the Egyptians, adopted it and used it as a means for their trade. This basic alphabet was picked up by later Greeks and developed into Greek script.

From this Greek script the modern alphabet was developed over a much longer period of time. At best then, the Phoenicians can claim to having been one link in the process of the development of the modern alphabet.

The Phoenicians became famous as traders, establishing settlements all over the Mediterranean basin, including on the Italian peninsula and in Spain. In 800 BC, the Phoenicians founded the city of Carthage, in present day Tunis, just opposite the bottom of the Italian peninsula. Carthage came to be peopled by a large number of different peoples, but retained its essentially Mediterranean/Nordic mix right until the time of its wars with Rome.

The most famous Carthaginian military leader, Hannibal, who was the scourge of Rome for many years, was a very clear Nordic sub-racial type, coming from a noble family in Carthage. Although Carthage was eventually destroyed by the Romans, it lasted longer than then Phoenician cities in Lebanon which were razed in 750 BC by new Indo-European led invaders, the Assyrians.