Here's a little taste of the genius of CI. The Pope is actually "seated on the throne of Nimrod-Satan." LOL

http://churchofthesonsofyhvh.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100

The Pope's True Identity

POPE SEATED ON SATAN’S High Priesthood the Prophet of Baal's THRONE

The coming false-Christ of the Babylonian Talmud, Moshiach ben Dovid will merge with his High Priest of Nimrod's Order soon, to establish the one world religion of their god, Satan.

The Babylonian pagan worship of Nimrod, Semiramis, and the god-incarnate son extended throughout the entire world and eventually assumed the name of Trinitarian Christianity in Rome (Figure 3, pages 24, 25). Trinitarian paganism spread from Babylon to Rome by way of Pergamum. The Babylon Kings, who were descended from Nimrod, served as both king and priest of the pagan Babylonian Mystery religion. As priests, they bore the title "Pontifex Maximus"125 or "Supreme Pontiff," meaning "supreme pathfinder" or "bridge maker," representing "the path or connection between this life and the next."126 They ruled upon the throne of Satan, which is the throne of Nimrod as the "hidden god."127 The last king to reign in Babylon was Belshazzar, who celebrated the pagan Babylonian ritual using the sacred Jewish temple vessels which his father King Nebuchadnezzar confiscated from the Jewish temple in 587 B.C.:

King Belshazzar made a great feast for a thousand of his wine in front of the thousand.

Belshazzar, when he tasted the wine, commanded that the vessels of gold and of silver which Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken [in 587 B.C.] out of the temple in Jerusalem be brought, that the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines might drink from them. Then they brought in the golden and silver vessels which had been taken out of the temple, the house of God in Jerusalem; and the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines drank from them. They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold and silver, bronze, iron, wood, and stone.

Immediately the fingers of a man’s hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall of the king’s palace, opposite the lampstand; and the king saw the hand as it wrote. Then the king’s color changed, and his thoughts alarmed him; his limbs gave way, and his knees knocked together....

Then from his presence the hand was sent, and this writing was inscribed. And this is the writing that was inscribed: MENE, MENE, TEKEL, AND PARSIN. This is the interpretation of the matter: MENE, God has numbered the days of your kingdom and brought it to an end; TEKEL, you have been weighed in the balances and found wanting; PERES, your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians....

That very night Belshazzar the Chaldean king was slain. And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, being about sixty-two years old.

- Prophet Daniel128

After the death of Belshazzar in 539 B.C., the Persian Emperor Cyrus conquered Babylon and forced the Babylonian princes to flee to Pergamum. They continued their reign there as priest-kings of Babylonian paganism.129 In 133 B.C., Attalus III, the last Babylonian King to rule in Pergamum, willed his dominions to the Roman Caesar, and the kingdom of Pergamum merged with the Roman Empire along with Satan-Nimrod’s throne and the title "Pontifex Maximus."130

In 63 B.C., Julius Caesar, who had been elected Pontifex Maximus, became emperor of Rome and vested the office of Roman emperor with the priestly powers and functions of the Babylonian Pontiff.131 Henceforth, the title Pontifex Maximus was used by the Roman Caesars as illustrated on a Roman coin depicting the image of Augustus Caesar (27 B.C.-14 A.D.) with his title "Pont. Max.," which is an abbreviation of Pontifex Maximus (Figure 4, page 26). Thus, the Roman emperors, like the preceding Babylonian emperors, now served as priests of Babylonian paganism, and bore the title Pontifex Maximus.

For centuries, Pergamum remained the site of Nimrod’s throne. With the appearance of Christianity, Babylonian paganism threatened the early Christian church of Pergamum as related in the Revelation given by Jesus to His Apostle John, who referred to Pergamum as the seat of Satan’s throne which is Nimrod’s throne:

"And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: ‘The words of him who has the sharp two-edged sword.

"‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is [i.e., Nimrod’s Throne]; you hold fast my name and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my witness, my faithful one, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam [pagan Babylonian trinity of Nimrod], who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice immorality.

- Apostle John132

In 376 A.D., Gratian became the first Roman emperor to refuse the idolatrous title of Pontifex Maximus.133 He presented the Babylonian Throne, or Satan-Nimrod’s Throne to the bishop of Rome.134

By this time, the Roman bishops had advanced in political power, and in 378 A.D., Bishop Damasus was elected Pontifex Maximus, becoming the official pagan Babylonian priest seated on Satan’s throne in Rome. As such, the bishop converted the pagan Babylonian temples of Rome into Trinitarian Christian churches and introduced the worship of Nimrod, Semiramis and the god-incarnate son under the respective titles of "god the father," "god the son" and "god the holy spirit." All the pomp and ceremony that existed in ancient Babylon was now practiced as Roman Trinitarian Christianity.

Before the Babylonian conversion into Trinitarian Christianity, the early Christians were a small cult surrounded by numerous Babylonian pagan temples. Historians, however, relate the amazing "overnight" conversion of Romans to Trinitarian Christianity, which coincided to a remarkable and unprecedented disappearance of paganism.135 In actuality, the Roman pagans did not convert to Trinitarian Christianity; but rather, Bishop Damasus exercised his authority as head of Babylonian paganism in Rome, and replaced all the Christian elders with pagan priests and continued the practice of the pagan Babylonian Mystery religion under the name of Trinitarian Christianity. Henceforth, all the bishops of Rome have donned the robes of Nimrod along with the title of Pontifex Maximus.

The Roman Catholic bishops were viewed by most Christians as head of Trinitarian Christianity, and entitled pope or "pater patrum" in Latin, that is, "father of the fathers,"136 despite the fact that Jesus the Christ forbid His followers to refer to anyone as father except for the heavenly Father:

But you are not to be called rabbi [Hebrew for master or teacher137 ], for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father [pope, derived from the Greek "papa" meaning father138 ] on earth, for you have one Father, who is inheaven. Neither be called masters, for you have one master, the Christ.

- Jesus the Christ139

Thus, like the Babylonian emperors and the Roman Caesars before them, the pagan Roman Catholic popes were seated on the throne of Satan, and possessed the title Pontifex Maximus140 as displayed on a medal portraying Pope Leo X (1513-1521 A.D.) with the inscription "Pont. Max." (Figure 4).

Further evidence supports the fact that the papal office is the pagan Babylonian priesthood. Roman Catholic popes not only bear the title Pontifex Maximus and are seated on Satan-Nimrod’s throne, but they also wear the scarlet robes of Nimrod and the miter of the fish-god Dagon, plus they carry the shepherd’s crook of Nimrod and the mystical keys of Janus and Cybele, who were the pagan god and goddess representing Nimrod and Semiramis respectively.141

The Roman bishops wore only white robes until they received Satan’s throne and the title Pontifex Maximus.142 Roman Catholic popes and cardinals now wear the scarlet robes of Nimrod. The shepherd’s crook or crosier carried by the pope is the magical crook traced directly to Nimrod who was the first shepherd king.143 The miter worn by the pope represents the mouth of a fish and was worn by the pagan Philistine fish-god Dagon,144 which is another name for Nimrod (Figure 5, page 30).145 Also, the tiara worn by the popes is identical in shape to that worn by the Philistine fish-god Nimrod.146

Notes

125. The Two Babylons, pp. 240-252.

126. PONTIFEX MAXIMUS. Baker’s Pocket Dictionary of Religious Terms.

127. The Two Babylons, pp. 275, 276.

128. Daniel 5:1-30.

129. The Two Babylons, pp. 240, 241.

130. ibid, p. 241.

131. Babylon Mystery Religion, p. 80; The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, pp. 66, 67.

132. Revelation 2:12-17.

133. Babylon Mystery Religion, p. 80; The Two Babylons, pp. 238, 247-252.

134. The Two Babylons, pp. 247, 248.

135. ibid., pp. 250, 251.

136. Babylon Mystery Religion, p. 83; The Catholic Encyclopedia, volume 10, p. 403.

137. RABBI. Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary.

138. POPE. Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary.

139. Matthew 23:8-10.

140. PONTIFEX MAXIMUS. Supreme Pathfinder ... the pope. Baker’s Pocket Dictionary of Religious Terms.

141. Babylon Mystery Religion, pp. 83-90; The Two Babylons, pp. 206-218.

142. Babylon Mystery Religion, p. 111.

143. CROSIER. Baker’s Pocket Dictionary of Religious Terms; The Two Babylons, p. 217.

144. The Two Babylons, pp. 216, 217.

145. ibid., pp. 114, 215, 252.

146. ibid., pp. 216, 217.

This should go in Anti-Christ Update, not Positive Christianity.

Lmao.

I left identity Christianity about 9 years ago.

They're out there, all right.

CI identity is the wrong solution to a familiar problem that WN face.

What can we learn from Jews, in terms of social cohesion and making structures to perpetuate this, without losing our own character as a people and becoming Judaized ourselves?

CI is the wrong answer, because they approach religion in EXACTLY the same way as the Jews. They become Jews both literally and figuratively.

No society that has had contact with Jews can ever be the same. There is a thesis, and they are always the antithesis. What we must do is control the synthesis that results. Going back to the thesis does not work. That is paganism/heathenism. Going back to the antithesis-- Jewism-- that is what CI does. No: we need to extract and develop the synthesis.

There is no question that Christianity (speaking here now of the Orthodox core of Christianity more or less retained in the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox churches, and to a lesser extent the Anglican and Lutheran churches) is a synthesis. Calvinism, and Anabaptism, modern day Christian fundamentalisms-- are like CI returning to the vomit of Judism. The similarity of CI rituals-- such as they are-- to standard varieties of Baptist or Methodist expressions seem obvious to me. As far as I can tell, that is-- I am no expert on this, but I have read many descriptions of Pastor Butler's services, and they clearly have an origin in England with British Israelism and so forth.

"Atheism" in the sense of German Romanticism, a la Nietzsche, is something different-- a progression from that synthesis. "Atheism" in the sense of scientific materialism-- which I believe is fundamentally similar to Monism or what Pierce called Cosmotheism-- is another progression from that synthesis. Both varieties of that atheism, are better places to be, than either alternative of returning to the archaic thesis, represented by heathenism, or returning to the antithesis, which is Jewism and its Judaizing spawn, Protestantism.

I suggest that traditional Christianity, ie, Catholicism/Orthodoxy, is the original European synthesis, emerging out of the pagan Roman empire's conquest and assimilation of Jews and Mithraism-- the similarities between Mitraism and Zoroastrianism to Christianity are well known and described in Revilo Oliver's book Origins of Christianity. This is not a unique idea for me, I borrow it from Oswald Spengler. In my own individual opinion, this world view is compatible with racial health. But, it has as a necessary component, intolerance of heresy and Judaism. So what does it mean in post-Reformation Europe? Nothing? I dont have a satisfactory answer to this at this time, but I dont think either Atheism described above represents an adequate solution for the whole of Aryan peoples either.

The purposee of this thread however, is to identify CI as Judaizing vomit. We had better find a way to live as Aryans without resorting to the cheapest, dirtiest tricks of Jewry, or how can we call ourselves better than them?

[QUOTE=Angrygoyim]Lmao.

I left identity Christianity about 9 years ago.

They're out there, all right.[/QUOTE]
You've got to tell us an anecdote or two. :)

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]CI identity is the wrong solution to a familiar problem that WN face.

The purposee of this thread however, is to identify CI as Judaizing vomit. We had better find a way to live as Aryans without resorting to the cheapest, dirtiest tricks of Jewry, or how can we call ourselves better than them?[/QUOTE]Great post.

I am agnostic. I would say I'm an atheist openly if I could prove that God (Gods, whatever) doesn't exist.

I left CI for several reasons. I too grew to abhor the fundamental tenet of IC: that we are supposedly the Israelites liberated from Assyrian captivity. As time went on, I could not stomach believing in essentially the same thing as Jews. I could not read the bible any longer, as it is Jewish. I could not, at that point, revert back to Judeo-Christianity, as it still made no sense and presented itself as pragmatically worse in many respects than IC. Also, although IC seemed to tie up some obvious incongruities and inconsistencies in the bible, those were only the obvious ones, not nearly all of them. I eventually lost "faith." And that day was the best day of my life.

Once in awhile, I'll quote Jesus Christ, just because it bothers Jews so much, but that's the only reason.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Antiochus Epiphanes again.

[QUOTE=Angrygoyim]Great post.

I am agnostic. I would say I'm an atheist openly if I could prove that God (Gods, whatever) doesn't exist.

I left CI for several reasons. I too grew to abhor the fundamental tenet of IC: that we are supposedly the Israelites liberated from Assyrian captivity. As time went on, I could not stomach believing in essentially the same thing as Jews. I could not read the bible any longer, as it is Jewish. I could not, at that point, revert back to Judeo-Christianity, as it still made no sense and presented itself as pragmatically worse in many respects than IC. Also, although IC seemed to tie up some obvious incongruities and inconsistencies in the bible, those were only the obvious ones, not nearly all of them. I eventually lost "faith." And that day was the best day of my life.

Once in awhile, I'll quote Jesus Christ, just because it bothers Jews so much, but that's the only reason.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you're on the right track. I would say, keep minding the facts of reality, be skeptical, and also be open to considering the social and emotional aspects of myth and religion. I was atheist and then I read a book called "Aryan Christ" which got me thinking on the whole problem again. But you have to approach the whole thing from our basic Western premise: reality exists and we can use our mind to know it. St Aquinas was 100% with Aristotle on that point, at least.

To try and contort ourselves to the mythic oddities of Christianity by arbitrarily inventing more oddities is absolutely foolish. It's the product of a literalist approach to the Bible which is taught in the evangelical JudeoProtestant sects. Creationism and the like. So people have this trained need to rationalize the strange tales of the Hebrew Scriptures.

In the old days, the Roman Church had the problem licked, by keeping the Scriptures in Latin and only reading the ones they chose to read in the order they chose, to the masses. Giving "Holy Scripture" to people with an inclination to take it literally is like giving a kid a gun to play with... BAD IDEA. That is protestantism in a nutshell, every man a Pope, readin his Bible, and then one day you get a monstrosity like CI.