I am currently using what is turning out to be a rather effective and immediate method to introduce Our Movement and myself to Middle Easterners for the specific purpose of propagandistically fighting The Jew.

We have various and sundry antis and opposition on the board in general and in the Opposition Forum day in and day out. We deal with them. We used to let Animae, or whatever his name was, go all over the place.

I think you get the drift. I'm just asking that we all not go out of our ways "all the time" to be gratuitously offensive to these guys. I've noticed in communicating with them that they almost all express curiosity and appreciation for what we're doing. And they most usually have not heard much, if anything, about us before.

We'll see where it goes. The Euros have preceded us (wearing Palestinian scarves at demos and so forth), as has NA with Ahmed Huber's financings etc. Even Hitler was allied.

I hope for the best, even if it's controversial within our circles.

I have discussed the Jewish problem with Arabs in America on several occasions. Generally they are understanding and sympathetic. Sometimes, if they have been victimized by Jews, they are shy of these conversations. You can imagine why.

I think it would be great if we had some Arab visitors to this board. I dont mind Muslims either, although no doubt they will be offended by some of our theological discussions just like others are.

As for jihaadis, I understand what they are doing, but taking money from an "apparent" jihaadi would be like walking around all day with a "kick me" sign on. Let's not forget the lesson that Rounder had to learn the hard way.

I am currently using what is turning out to be a rather effective and immediate method to introduce Our Movement and myself to Middle Easterners for the specific purpose of propagandistically fighting The Jew....

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The Middle Easterners regard "Our Movement' (and I assume you mean the movement under the generic heading of White nationalism) with as much enmity as they regard each other, and the jews.

The Arab League is the typical Middle eastern bunfight, with Arab versus Arab and no ability to agree on anything other than what colour teacups to have at the next Cairo conference.

As for the Kuwaitis (all 2 million in-bred retards to a man) would you really perceive any advantage in allying with those semitic ubermensch from the Northern Gulf?.

As for the Saudis, they are currently distracted with the1,380 year old to date, struggle between Sunni and their Eastern Province (predominantly Shia) countrymen. I would trust a Saudi/Kuwaiti / other shade of SandNegro no further than I would trust a jew; Genetically they are all semitic people and are tarred with the same coloured brush.

There are thousands of well off Saudis who are not Jihadists but loathe Jewry. It would also be "nothing" for them to assist us. Even a tepid open, working alliance would generate enormous press. That's the bounce. I know plenty of Stormfronters and some here would argue "we don't need that kind of publicity."

Jewry would also throw a fit. Potok recently stated that they are seriously alarmed by the prospect.

Again. Hitler allied with them. Rockwell himself worked with nogs. If they pay for us to heave 100,000 flyers at a pop, or toss 25,000 twelve-cents- cost-each White Power CD's onto lawns and driveways, where is the problem?

What if we accomplished it five times? Five hundred thousand flyers for $150,000. How many in this country would hit our websites or start reading about that which we speak?

I have discussed the Jewish problem with Arabs in America on several occasions.

Unless these American Arabs are painfully naive, they should know that a successful campaign against America's Jews means they too will be rounded up (and, if necessary, beaten senseless with truncheons and deported at gunpoint) should WNs ever take control. Knowing that, why in holy fuck would they aid in their own dispossesion?

A riddle, itz!

Not interested in the ones here; just the ones abroad. They'd surely enjoy shaking things up with the Jew in the USA from a distance. The ones here know they have an ax to grind with us, yes, and vice versa.

Not interested in the ones here; just the ones abroad. They'd surely enjoy shaking things up with the Jew in the USA from a distance. The ones here know they have an ax to grind with us, yes, and vice versa.

Chain its not only the ones here who have an axe to grind with us.Even the ones in the land of Oil Sand and Dates have an axe to grind - ever since the historical Crusades against their backward religion and culture.

"The enemy of our jew enemy, is our friend". I've always said that.

I made some clumsy attempts back in the 80s to work with Arabs/Muslims, to no avail. But the idea is sound. WN and jew-wise Arabs/Muslims is a natural alliance against international jewry.

In fact, I favor an alliance with all gentiles. Black, Brown, Asian and White. And the fact of our overt racism is no deterrent to such an alliance, since they are in fact just as racist as we are. We call them niggers, gooks, and wetbacks. They call us honkeys, rednecks, gringos, and haoles. So what ?? Our mutual racisms in no way compares to jewish enslavement of the world's gentiles. And all sophisticated jew-wise Blacks, Browns, and Asians know it.

Good luck, Chain.

Is there any evidence that middle-easterners are interested in fighting international jewry? Forget about Israel for a minute, do middle-easterners have a bone to pick with a Sumner Redstone, for example?

My point is that a small percentage of middle-easterners are biologically white (depending on one's definition) but most are muds. We can't really form much of a bond with any outgroup.

Is there any evidence that middle-easterners are interested in fighting international jewry? Forget about Israel for a minute, do middle-easterners have a bone to pick with a Sumner Redstone, for example?

My point is that a small percentage of middle-easterners are biologically white (depending on one's definition) but most are muds. We can't really form much of a bond with any outgroup.

Hey Chain, this "one" is either a kike or a misguided idiot. He always jumps in with kike-a-like excuses why WNs and Arabs shouldn't work together against the jews. Pay him no mind.

I suggest this thread be moved to the nutzpah lounge.

Is there any evidence that middle-easterners are interested in fighting international jewry? Forget about Israel for a minute, do middle-easterners have a bone to pick with a Sumner Redstone, for example?

My point is that a small percentage of middle-easterners are biologically white (depending on one's definition) but most are muds. We can't really form much of a bond with any outgroup.

The virtue of feminine MODESTY sets all good Muslims at odds with the filth-mongering Sumner Redstone. How do you think that a culture that believes women should wear the hajab feels about tits and ass 24/7 on the electronic Jew?

The Arab nations I admire for keeping control of their TV programming. Somewhat.

Hey Chain, this "one" is either a kike or a misguided idiot. He always jumps in with kike-a-like excuses why WNs and Arabs shouldn't work together against the jews. Pay him no mind.

YOU are the one that's an idiot, Miller. You do this all the time with people that disagree with you.

It's obvious how successful your tactics have gotten the movement. What a laugh.

The virtue of feminine MODESTY sets all good Muslims at odds with the filth-mongering Sumner Redstone. How do you think that a culture that believes women should wear the hajab feels about tits and ass 24/7 on the electronic Jew?

I don't believe Muslims differentiate between jew and the entire western culture. The electronic jew is powerful because most people, including whites, eat it up. Al-queada weren't targeting only jewry during 9-11, but the Great Satan, the US.

The Muslim religious elite is one thing, and the middle-east masses are another. This is common in very repressed cultures.

I was talking to one my customers, a Jordanian with duel citizenship. He told me that a small Arab country, starts with a B and if mentioned I would recognize the name, has prostitution as the largest industry.

Ita a good idea but for one problem - the Muslims of the middle east are already giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Americans. They are paying for hundreds of mosques, immigrant centers, Islamic schools, and for PR firms to spread the name of Allah among minorities and disaffected Whites. Giving a single penny to us would severely damage their reputation among the nigs, spics and turd world immigrants who they see as a future fifth column within the US and every other Western state. The good news is that that hate jews. The bad news is that they see all non-Muslims as jews.

I was talking to one my customers, a Jordanian with duel citizenship. He told me that a small Arab country, starts with a B and if mentioned I would recognize the name, has prostitution as the largest industry.

Bahrain? From the CIA World Factbook:

"In well-to-do Bahrain, petroleum production and refining account for about 60% of export receipts, 60% of government revenues, and 30% of GDP. With its highly developed communication and transport facilities, Bahrain is home to numerous multinational firms with business in the Gulf.."

Nope, nothing about prostitution. You think a Jordanian would tell the truth about Gulf Arabs? They envy the Gulfers, who are their rich cousins.


Hate Westerners? They don't. They watch Hollywood movies all the time, listen to Western music, and most of them look down on Arabs in the West, who drink alcohol and use drugs and abandon their traditional ways.

The Passion of the Christ sold extremely well in places such as Egypt and Palestine; Yassir Arafat watched it and loved it. (Sharon did not.)

The new Pal leader visited the Nativity Church at Christmas, amid a crowd of cheering Christian Orthodox Palestinians. (Sharon did not.)

Arabs used to think of the ol' USA as their favorite country, an enemy of imperialism, until this nation which they admired so much unexplicably supported the Jewish rape of Palestinian land. But even today radicals in the Middle East say they don't hate Americans, only American politicians who keep attacking them and supporting Israel.

Gulf Arabs like to think of themselves as White. They know of their mixed ancestry, from way back when Aryans conquered lesser peoples in that area. Some Arabs have blonde hair and blue or green eyes, and they take this as proof of their whole race being White.

Still, many of the Gulfers are tired of lazy-ass and stupid Westerners who allow themselves to become Jewish tools. But those who can afford it still go to college in London and New York, and many of them are in daily contact with Westerners who live among them as engineers and the like, working for Western corporations.

Dr. Pierce, KAS and David Irving have been interviewed or had pieces posted in Gulf newspapers. David Irving was going to get funding from a Saudi prince, until that prince mysteriously died in a car accident. So it's not impossible to get funding, you just have to prove you're worth it. Just like it's not impossible to get White millionaires to help you.

Gulf Arabs like to think of themselves as White. They know of their mixed ancestry, from way back when Aryans conquered lesser peoples in that area. Some Arabs have blonde hair and blue or green eyes, and they take this as proof of their whole race being White.


Qatar comes to mind. If you look at Qatar's skyline, it looks like Las Vegas, but with an Arab flavor.

I don't see harm in reaching out to these folks, but trying to align with the terrorist fringe or radical muslims is a disasterous political move.

Everytime someone suggests that WNs and Arabs work together against the jews, the loudest opposition on this forum comes from those who don't contribute diddily squat to active VNN projects.

This thread is a good example. Neither Abzug, Dasyurus, Chunk of Hate, nor Jim Crowe have ever contributed one dime to VNN's Tabloid Project. (Crowe lied on this forum 6 months ago that he would send in a $50 donation).

It's time to dump these unproductive/counterproductive anonymous "whiners."

Make um put up, or shut up.

The virtue of feminine MODESTY sets all good Muslims at odds with the filth-mongering Sumner Redstone. How do you think that a culture that believes women should wear the hajab feels about tits and ass 24/7 on the electronic Jew?

The Arab nations I admire for keeping control of their TV programming. Somewhat.

The Izzies' Holy Book the Queer'un regards whites as infidels and dogs to be exterminated, and sets all good Muslims at odds with the argument that they can be allies with the Infidel-centred WN movement to unite against the filthy Jew.

If Rounders argument that The enemy of our jew enemy, is our friend". I've always said that. applies; why havent the Saudis(for example) been queueing up to pump petrodollars into the WN movement.?, or the Emiratis, Kuwaitis, Qataris and other arab nations with a big chunk of disposable national income?.

The fact is that the oil-economy arab wants his new Mercedes each year and pays lip service to war against the jew(How many arab nations have declared war on Israel since they last got trounced?), The wogs oil wealth is used to pay-off the Talib and the Shaheed activists for twofold reasons(and any sympathy for white nationalism isnt one of them):
i)The Arab buys off the islamic terrorists from 'doing it in their own country' (Ever read of suicide bombs in Dubai for example - where the Taleban had an Embassy)
ii) The wealthy oil states of the arab world are canny enough to look after their own people and watch from the sidelines as white countries destroy themselves with 'Asylum seekers', 'Immigrants', handing out nationality and western passports to reward illegal black immigrants. Why would the arab, ally with any WNs? - the WN's who are against those destructive events?

In short there is no advantage for the arab to ally with any WN group, because as radical 'Infidels' the WN is perceived as an enemy on a par with the orthodox armed Yids toting guns at the Palestinians. .

The fact is that on the scale of hatred, the arab hates each other, followed by the Jew, followed by the white enemy - in that order.

The Sand-dwellers Hierarchy of hatred has developed over thousands of years and rattling the begging bowl for Arab cash and 'support' is demeaning to the WN cause and makes those that do it look little better than the average aid-dependent Oxfam African.

(Crowe lied on this forum 6 months ago that he would send in a $50 donation).

Bullshit, I did contribute $50. I didn't attach my user name to the check.

Hey Miller, why go halfway around the globe to find non-whites. Why not go to Mexico and invite the 5 billion mexicans there to flood into the US and "fight the jew".

If there are jews monitoring this website, and I'm sure there is, they have to be laughing their asses off on what a moron you are.

Actually, you know I contributed the $50. I'm one of the one's you complimented when you put out that list of all the contributors.

Everytime someone suggests that WNs and Arabs work together against the jews, the loudest opposition on this forum comes from those who don't contribute diddily squat to active VNN projects.

This thread is a good example. Neither Abzug, Dasyurus, Chunk of Hate, nor Jim Crowe have ever contributed one dime to VNN's Tabloid Project. (Crowe lied on this forum 6 months ago that he would send in a $50 donation).

It's time to dump these unproductive/counterproductive anonymous "whiners."

Make um put up, or shut up.



From another thread, something to ponder, this made me think of you, Rounder:

"CSIS infiltrated a well paid agent, Grant Bristow into the Heritage Front. He funnelled money to the HF and constantly urged violence and confrontational tactics, gradually leading the HF in a direction which destroyed it."

Bullshit, I did contribute $50. I didn't attach my user name to the check.

Hey Miller, why go halfway around the globe to find non-whites. Why not go to Mexico and invite the 5 billion mexicans there to flood into the US and "fight the jew".

If there are jews monitoring this website, and I'm sure there is, they have to be laughing their asses off on what a moron you are.

Prove you sent money to me. PM me your initials, city and state - since you say you did not include your screen name with the donation. Otherwise, it's impossible for me to verify. I think you're lying again. And your refusal to PM the information, or post it here, will prove it.

Your 2nd paragraph above, is indicative of your kike-a-like deceptions via kike-komedy.

From another thread, something to ponder, this made me think of you, Rounder:

"CSIS infiltrated a well paid agent, Grant Bristow into the Heritage Front. He funnelled money to the HF and constantly urged violence and confrontational tactics, gradually leading the HF in a direction which destroyed it."

Spreading suspicions again, huh Bella Abzug ??

Now get back on topic, get off this thread, or slither on down to the opposition zoo, where all kikes belong.

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If Rounders argument that applies; why havent the Saudis(for example) been queueing up to pump petrodollars into the WN movement.?, or the Emiratis, Kuwaitis, Qataris and other arab nations with a big chunk of disposable national income?.

The fact is that the oil-economy arab wants his new Mercedes each year and pays lip service to war against the jew(How many arab nations have declared war on Israel since they last got trounced?), The wogs oil wealth is used to pay-off the Talib and the Shaheed activists for twofold reasons(and any sympathy for white nationalism isnt one of them):
i)The Arab buys off the islamic terrorists from 'doing it in their own country' (Ever read of suicide bombs in Dubai for example - where the Taleban had an Embassy)
ii) The wealthy oil states of the arab world are canny enough to look after their own people and watch from the sidelines as white countries destroy themselves with 'Asylum seekers', 'Immigrants', handing out nationality and western passports to reward illegal black immigrants. Why would the arab, ally with any WNs? - the WN's who are against those destructive events?

In short there is no advantage for the arab to ally with any WN group, because as radical 'Infidels' the WN is perceived as an enemy on a par with the orthodox armed Yids toting guns at the Palestinians. .

The fact is that on the scale of hatred, the arab hates each other, followed by the Jew, followed by the white enemy - in that order.

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Well that is as good of a statement of the argument against this as has been made. The rest of this stuff is not worth commenting on other than to say, do me a favor JIM CROWE and lay off the quarrel. We have a proposal here from Chain and it's open to comment and criticism but you've made your point already.

Daisy,

here are some facts you may not have accounted for in forming your opinion.

1-- Arabs have previously hosted major Revisionist conferences. Beyond this, the nature and extent of their support of Revisionism is unknown, but I have suspicions. Consider for a moment that "Abu Mazen" himself, the head of the Palenstinian authority, was denounced by Jews as a holocaust denier.

2-- David Duke made a big book tour of Arab nations. $$$ Good for David, and I hope they learned something from him.

3-- Have you ever wondered how it is that David Irving did his book tour last year or two ago driving all over the US speaking to small audiences at a time when he was insolvent from the Lipstadt case? I have often wondered. I have no information which suggests that he received any Arab money, nor am I suggesting that, but it seems to me that his tour expenses would have exceeded what he was charging to attend his dinners. Which raises some obvious questions.

4-- Swiss guy named Huber-- somebody already mentioned him I think.

5-- I am no expert on the Koran but I think you misunderstand the notion of Jihaad. Jihaad like many Muslim concepts is perhaps taken from the Christian notion of "crusade" which is both a greater and a lesser struggle against evil. The lesser struggle is the fight against evil as it manifests itself socially in the world. The greater struggle is the fight against evil meaning imperfection or sin or undiscipline or whatever, within oneself. This Muslim-Christian notion is not "semitic" in origin as it seems to be derived from Aryan Zoroastrianism. You are basically quoting the Jew party line on what the Koran says, and I don't take my understanding of Islam from biased lying Jews but from what I have read of it written by Julius Evola, Rene Guenon, and Hillaire Belloc.

So I dont think Chain's suggestion is outside the realm of possibility. My only concern is that if this were to transpire that the money offered not be tied to any organizations or sources that will lead to law enforcement persecution of the recipient of the gifts. Cash gifts sent in the mail from anonymous donors are the best in that regard. They can come from anyhwhere and the recipient has no way of knowing who.

Not interested in the ones here; just the ones abroad. They'd surely enjoy shaking things up with the Jew in the USA from a distance. The ones here know they have an ax to grind with us, yes, and vice versa.


But, the ones here would be the immediate beneficiaries of a diminution in Jewish power in the USA. They have been the primary focus of unfair Jewish-federal post 911 targeted prosecutions and all the unconstitutional baggage that has gone along with that. Remember at least a thousand Arabs were deported on visa violations in that first year post 911. Plus there have been many many prosecutions not just of jihaadis like Jose Padilla but also people like law professor El-Arian-- remember him? and the Saudi student who had a website. He got off the hook. WNs have been the secondary "antiterror" subjects of attention.

While Arabs have all their ethnic organizations to help them out, they dont generate powerful anti-Jew propaganda. Probably because those organizations are controlled by a bunch of pantywaist liberal Arabs who are afraid to turn loose the dogs of hate. We dont have that problem do we? So smart Arabs even in the US would do well to send a few anonymous money orders in the mail to alex or if they want to hand out some printed material on their own they can buy a few TAA tabloids! I know TAA2 is going to be great and I understand it's nearing completion!

Spreading suspicions again, huh Bella Abzug ??

Now get back on topic, get off this thread, or slither on down to the opposition zoo, where all kikes belong.

Hey dude, I'll do both. Get on topic and spread more suspicions. To begin with, I can't imagine anything better calculated to further world white divisions than that pro-whites in America should 'ally' with races presently invading white homelands in Europe.

What benefits do you see flowing from such an 'alliance'? Money? Non-white Muslims in North America donate what little they give to Muslim organizations. No one has done more to pander to non-white Muslims than Michael A. Hoffman II. Surely you aren't going to go as far as Hoffman? Yet even Hoffman said that his book on the "Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" only brought in $50 from a Muslim dishwasher in Texas.

So perhaps you urge pro-whites to do some drilling for offshore petro-dollars? This will immediately bring them afoul of the Foreign Agents Registration Act and also Jew Chertoff's PATRIOT Act. And straight into an FBI sting depending on does the match-making between 'donor' and 'receipient'.

Speaking of potential stings, I see where you very recently urged pro-whites to start email spamming on behalf of commercial ventures, these being VNN and the VNN Tabloid. Are you not aware of the man in Virginia who was just sentenced the other day to nine years in prison for commercial email spam? I don't know what the maximum possible prison sentence would be email spamming, but I do know a pro-white spammer would get it. The sole exception written into the spam laws is for ballot qualified political candidates in connection with political campaigns. Neither VNN or the tabloid project qualify for this exception.

Glen, the reason so many people suspect you of being an active police informer is not just because of the past. It's because you constantly urge new actions that can get pro-whites on the fast track to the Chertoff Big House.

Now I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume these poorly conceived ideas are the result of low native intelligence and native ignorance compounded by the brain damage that accompanies long term alcohol abuse.

A lot of other folks tend to assume the worst about you out of self-preservation, though. An idea like the 1,000,000 spam emails could equally have originated in instructions from some Jew DoJ prosecutor to FBI counterparts and thence out through the informer network.

Kinda like Matt Hale's informant got his daily mission briefing.

"Maguire"

My only issue with Arabs/Muslims is that they tend to act like Jews in the sense that they migrate here and Europe and act like they own the joint and expect us to bend backward to accomodate them and refuse to leave. We'll have to peel them off.

Thanks A.E. for your excellent input into this thread. And thanks Chain for your efforts to obtain Arab/Muslim "assistance" to help in our struggle against the jews.

My own views on this subject are well known. So I'll say no more about it here.

Everybody is moot on the above post by Maguire". Is anyone going to challenge it?

Everybody is moot on the above post by Maguire". Is anyone going to challenge it?

Duce- I'll take up that guantlet.

I think people are not replying out of respect for a good writer of propaganda.

But I will point out a few things.

1- I already made the point about legal risks of entrapment in the form of fake sheiks. At least twice.

2- I already made the point to the legal risks of spamming. I didnt merely refer to the case of the person sentenced, I linked it. So neither point is something new.

3- neither is it a new point to raise questions about Frazier Glenn Miller again. But, for some people that have made hay out of denouncing people at length, Miller is a perennial favorite.

Well after years of reading metzger and faem, and watching all the laws etc against whites get worse and worse, and noting that few if any socalled "lone wolves" were coming out of the wordwork to do anything, and that in the absence of vigourous group opposition organized by effective leaders like Duke or Miller-- both rabidly denounced at FAEM for their feet of clay-- that Whites are in greater danger of decline due to further ineffectual "sitzkreig" than we are of Duke or Miller actually getting out there and doing successfully what they had done before. Ok, Duke gambled. Bad boy. Gambling is a vice. I can forgive it though. Ok, Glenn fought fire with fire and wouldnt take a dive for a bunch of guys who neednt have involved him in their schemes in the first place and then thought he should take a dive. Well, I can forgive him for doing otherwise too. It's easy to stand back and criticize but do those who criticize offer alternatives? FAEM did not, Maguire included.

Maguire also suggested once Kitti was questionable because her address was in Arlington which also has lots of federal offices. Well folks, I can tell you that was WRONG. The way the NA hijack by Gleebe shook out, prove that Maguire's speculation about "is NA a false flag" was 100% wrong. But, I never have bitched about that because I thought the essay made good points and I wondered about them myself, prior to discovering proof to the contrary. In fact, today I wonder if maybe Gleebe is running it as a false flag at this time, or if he is really just a greedy thug. I wonder. But my point is this: Maguire like others is in the bad habit of seeing a "fed" under every rock. And so forth. If we let ourselves be paralyzed into inaction for fear of informants, then the terror apparatus has won its victory over us with no resistance at all.

I am something of a paranoid myself, but I have talked to Glenn Miller and read more or less everything that was available, and considered all sides fairly, and I am persuaded he has the best intentions toward Whites, and that we are lucky to have him back. I guess for some people, who have made their trademark Order cultism, or in the case of Maguire, denouncing all pro-White organizations and leaders as bad, they will never agree about Miller.

But consider what THEY have accomplished, I would ask, maybe it's the LONE WOLVES and the do-nothing leaderless resistance types that should be questioned for once consider the complete lack of results which they have produced for Whites!

PS "Maguire" next time dont stay away so long!

Duce- I'll take up that guantlet.

I think people are not replying out of respect for a good writer of propaganda.

But I will point out a few things.

1- I already made the point about legal risks of entrapment in the form of fake sheiks. At least twice.

2- I already made the point to the legal risks of spamming. I didnt merely refer to the case of the person sentenced, I linked it. So neither point is something new.

Glad to see that you and "Maguire" are agreed on those points.

3- neither is it a new point to raise questions about Frazier Glenn Miller again. But, for some people that have made hay out of denouncing people at length, Miller is a perennial favorite.

Miller is undisciplined or is an informer.

Well after years of reading metzger and faem, and watching all the laws etc against whites get worse and worse, and noting that few if any socalled "lone wolves" were coming out of the wordwork to do anything, and that in the absence of vigourous group opposition organized by effective leaders like Duke or Miller-- both rabidly denounced at FAEM for their feet of clay-- that Whites are in greater danger of decline due to further ineffectual "sitzkreig" than we are of Duke or Miller actually getting out there and doing successfully what they had done before. Ok, Duke gambled. Bad boy. Gambling is a vice. I can forgive it though.

Would Uncle Adolf have approved of Duke or Miller? Are gambling and poor judgment acceptable leadership traits? I don't think so.

Ok, Glenn fought fire with fire and wouldnt take a dive for a bunch of guys who neednt have involved him in their schemes in the first place and then thought he should take a dive. Well, I can forgive him for doing otherwise too. It's easy to stand back and criticize but do those who criticize offer alternatives?

Miller's narrative is replete with stupidities.

FAEM did not, Maguire included.

Maguire did. Robert Frenz did not.

Maguire also suggested once Kitti was questionable because her address was in Arlington which also has lots of federal offices. Well folks, I can tell you that was WRONG. The way the NA hijack by Gleebe shook out, prove that Maguire's speculation about "is NA a false flag" was 100% wrong. But, I never have bitched about that because I thought the essay made good points and I wondered about them myself, prior to discovering proof to the contrary. In fact, today I wonder if maybe Gleebe is running it as a false flag at this time, or if he is really just a greedy thug. I wonder. But my point is this: Maguire like others is in the bad habit of seeing a "fed" under every rock. And so forth.

The NA is a limited liability corporation incorporated under the laws of West Virginia, one of which is that board members appoint the chairman. Chairmen can't fire individual board members without a quorum of the board. Gliebe, it seems, did just that. With the SPLC, ADL and who knows what else watching and waiting for a chance to take down the NA, how did Gliebe get away with violating West Virginia laws? There are plenty of reasons to suspect that the NA was and remains to this day a false flag operation.

Maguire's suspicions about Miller are quite reasonable: a criminal track record, a big mouth, encouraging illegal spamming, encouraging the receipt of Arab funding, "advertising" in the American Free Press (a wasteful, “preaching to the choir” venue), etc...

If we let ourselves be paralyzed into inaction for fear of informants, then the terror apparatus has won its victory over us with no resistance at all.

Internet yackety-yak isn’t "action.” Real politics is on the ground. Competent folks don't organize new political parties as political action committees or allow Internet mouths with Miller's past into the inner circle. Incompetence is and always has been our worst enemy.

I am something of a paranoid myself, but I have talked to Glenn Miller and read more or less everything that was available, and considered all sides fairly, and I am persuaded he has the best intentions toward Whites, and that we are lucky to have him back. I guess for some people, who have made their trademark Order cultism, or in the case of Maguire, denouncing all pro-White organizations and leaders as bad, they will never agree about Miller.

Some cheese with that whine? Maguire's standards are textbook Uncle Adolf, a man with whom no modern White organization or "leader" in America can compare.

The effectiveness of American White nationalism is less now than it was in Charles Lindbergh's day. Midnight litter drops are not the answer. Talk of cutting off Jewish heads is not the answer. Marching around ADL headquarters is not the answer. Tats, nose rings and Third Reich flags are not the answer. Internet discussion boards are not the answer.

The solution is, in part, to run local congressional campaigns as independent candidates. You won't find Jim Gile's name besmirched on the ADL website. Part of the solution is to form agricultural and light industrial co-ops, communes and cantons. "Have me fired from this, Jews!"

Maguire and the folks at Little Europe deserve the credit for developing these ideas and many more.

But consider what THEY have accomplished, I would ask, maybe it's the LONE WOLVES and the do-nothing leaderless resistance types that should be questioned for once consider the complete lack of results which they have produced for Whites!

Genuine lone wolves, if any exist, are probably dead, behind bars or soon to be headed in that general direction.

After 60 years of Jewish predation and White retreat, one must wonder why mags like The Aryan Alternative weren’t around 30-40 years ago. Oops, I forgot – they were around!

Be pleased with the new magazine and Alex’s Internet radio interview, AE. Don’t consider them to be major “movement-building” accomplishments.

Hey dude, I'll do both. Get on topic and spread more suspicions. To begin with, I can't imagine anything better calculated to further world white divisions than that pro-whites in America should 'ally' with races presently invading white homelands in Europe.

What benefits do you see flowing from such an 'alliance'? Money? Non-white Muslims in North America donate what little they give to Muslim organizations. No one has done more to pander to non-white Muslims than Michael A. Hoffman II. Surely you aren't going to go as far as Hoffman? Yet even Hoffman said that his book on the "Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" only brought in $50 from a Muslim dishwasher in Texas.

So perhaps you urge pro-whites to do some drilling for offshore petro-dollars? This will immediately bring them afoul of the Foreign Agents Registration Act and also Jew Chertoff's PATRIOT Act. And straight into an FBI sting depending on does the match-making between 'donor' and 'receipient'.

Speaking of potential stings, I see where you very recently urged pro-whites to start email spamming on behalf of commercial ventures, these being VNN and the VNN Tabloid. Are you not aware of the man in Virginia who was just sentenced the other day to nine years in prison for commercial email spam? I don't know what the maximum possible prison sentence would be email spamming, but I do know a pro-white spammer would get it. The sole exception written into the spam laws is for ballot qualified political candidates in connection with political campaigns. Neither VNN or the tabloid project qualify for this exception.

Glen, the reason so many people suspect you of being an active police informer is not just because of the past. It's because you constantly urge new actions that can get pro-whites on the fast track to the Chertoff Big House.

Now I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume these poorly conceived ideas are the result of low native intelligence and native ignorance compounded by the brain damage that accompanies long term alcohol abuse.

A lot of other folks tend to assume the worst about you out of self-preservation, though. An idea like the 1,000,000 spam emails could equally have originated in instructions from some Jew DoJ prosecutor to FBI counterparts and thence out through the informer network.

Kinda like Matt Hale's informant got his daily mission briefing.

"Maguire"

You are not only an anonymous coward, too frightened to place your real name besides what you say you believe, you are too frightened of your own government to say what you anonymously believe via mass emails in cyber space.

State your real name, address and phone number along with your photograph and record of WN activisms like I have - otherwise, my responding to your feminine paranoia would be like a 5-star general responding to a stockade buck private.

I agree with Rounder on Maguire.

Everytime someone suggests that WNs and Arabs work together against the jews, the loudest opposition on this forum comes from those who don't contribute diddily squat to active VNN projects.

This thread is a good example. Neither Abzug, Dasyurus, Chunk of Hate, nor Jim Crowe have ever contributed one dime to VNN's Tabloid Project. (Crowe lied on this forum 6 months ago that he would send in a $50 donation).

It's time to dump these unproductive/counterproductive anonymous "whiners."

Make um put up, or shut up. Blah blah Blah

fact: I have never contributed a cent to VNN;s tabloid Project. However I do contribute $$$$ from my income each year to a European national socialist party and undertake other active support. Do you?. If not, can I suggest that you quit your unproductive whining.

Aside from the Glenn Miller troublesome past and the NA enigma. Maguire strongly points out the flaws of the alliance with the Muslims which I agree 100%. With the spamming laws in place the idea of spamming is now out.

Since 911 ZOG has plugged the holes in the financial transaction .Any money tied into terrorism the patriot act kicks in and whisk you away.

I’m not in favor of alliance with the Muslims. Sure they are fighting the same enemy but that’s on the other side of the globe. Living in Zog’s land while supporting the Muslims is plain suicide. The struggle should be focus right here at home by political means(Jim Jiles) while zog imperial adventure in the south-north east Asia will eventually grind them to a halt.

I am no expert on the Koran but I think you misunderstand the notion of Jihaad. Jihaad like many Muslim concepts is perhaps taken from the Christian notion of "crusade" which is both a greater and a lesser struggle against evil. The lesser struggle is the fight against evil as it manifests itself socially in the world. The greater struggle is the fight against evil meaning imperfection or sin or undiscipline or whatever, within oneself. This Muslim-Christian notion is not "semitic" in origin as it seems to be derived from Aryan Zoroastrianism. You are basically quoting the Jew party line on what the Koran says, and I don't take my understanding of Islam from biased lying Jews but from what I have read of it written by Julius Evola, Rene Guenon, and Hillaire Belloc.
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Instead of basing your understanding of Jihad just on the works of those long-dead middle European white folk whose names raked up from the backshelf of obscurity fail to impress, why dont you quote Wagner's and the fantasy figure of Lohengrin's respective take on the Koran too?. Their relevance to the Koran and Jihad is the same as that of Belloc, Guenon and Evola (to whit, none),

Maybe I'm at fault for keeping it simple, but my understanding of the Koran was based on reading it (Bukhari's version in the English language is better than your interpretation of another interpretation by a dead 19th century third party).

But of course should anyone dare challenge your dogma, the stale old Jew-card is there , ready to be pulled out to be thrown at any of your detractors, right?.

As the Islamo-Camel fuckers are slicing your throats and us Marines are defending your right to be Brainless Nazi Faggots you still won't get it. You are a disgrace to America and truly make up what is known as "trailer Trash" or "White Trash". Truly you are good for only one thing...Target practice.
We can only hope and do pray to see you on the battler field some day to make you wet your pants and beg for mercy.
Your all Cowardice little Pansies!
Welcome to America. My Country Not yours!

victor said-
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=209109&postcount=6&*
The jews don't ask for it but they sure give it back whaaa whaaa you racist crybabies get over it.
Victory over racist little punk asses! You're banned.

As the Islamo-Camel fuckers are slicing your throats and us Marines are defending your right to be Brainless Nazi Faggots you still won't get it. You are a disgrace to America and truly make up what is known as "trailer Trash" or "White Trash". Truly you are good for only one thing...Target practice.
We can only hope and do pray to see you on the battler field some day to make you wet your pants and beg for mercy.
Your all Cowardice little Pansies!
Welcome to America. My Country Not yours!

To sum that up, the Jew says we are trailer trash fit only for cannon fodder in Jew wars like Iraq and that the Jew owns America. Thanks for making our point for us Jew.

Blah blah Blah

fact: I have never contributed a cent to VNN;s tabloid Project. However I do contribute $$$$ from my income each year to a European national socialist party and undertake other active support. Do you?. If not, can I suggest that you quit your unproductive whining.

If you're in Europe I can understand why you wouldnt want to pitch into our efforts. Also I can understand how you would have more animus towards Muslims than we do, if you are over there.

But do me a favor and dont interject your opinion into these particular if you're choosing not to be involved. We wish you the best of luck saving Europa and we will try and do our best here. Thanks.

Instead of basing your understanding of Jihad just on the works of those long-dead middle European white folk whose names raked up from the backshelf of obscurity fail to impress, why dont you quote Wagner's and the fantasy figure of Lohengrin's respective take on the Koran too?. Their relevance to the Koran and Jihad is the same as that of Belloc, Guenon and Evola (to whit, none),
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Are you not impressed or are you not informed?

Evola is certainly relevant to a proper understanding of Islam. Savitri Devi is good too. If you had read them perhaps you would know what I'm referring to. I've explained it plenty of time in other threads, I dont need to repeat it here.

As for Guenon, he actually moved to Egypt and became a Sufi, so he was pretty well informed as well. Oh, I would mention that he moved there when Nasser was employing Skorzeny and more than a handful of other NS alte kampfen to upgrade his armed forces. So you can snivel at the idea of an Aryan-Muslim collaboration against the Jew, but the historical precedents are there.

.....The NA is a limited liability corporation incorporated under the laws of West Virginia, one of which is that board members appoint the chairman. Chairmen can't fire individual board members without a quorum of the board. Gliebe, it seems, did just that. With the SPLC, ADL and who knows what else watching and waiting for a chance to take down the NA, how did Gliebe get away with violating West Virginia laws? There are plenty of reasons to suspect that the NA was and remains to this day a false flag operation.
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Be pleased with the new magazine and Alex’s Internet radio interview, AE. Don’t consider them to be major “movement-building” accomplishments.


there were some things you said I agreed with and some I didnt, but pretty much all of them were offtopic to this thread. I would only point out to you that when you presume to lecture me about certain topics, perhaps you should get your facts straight ahead of time. To begin with, an LLC is not a corporation, so it cant be "incorporated" it is "formed." As far as I recall from my independent investigation from open sources, Resistance Records is the only one of the NA family of entities which is actually an LLC and the rest are corporations. I will not say more about those entities here because, again, it's beside the point. But dont be super-impressed with Maguire's apparent detective skills unless you are sure that the "facts" which he "uncovered" were actually accurate. He "uncovered" the matter of public record that Kitti was registered agent for one of these entities, and then irresponsibly suggested she was working for the federals because of her location. That was a smear and some of us havent forgotten it.

Anyhow, you and Giles keep doing your thing, it's good, just dont presume that you've hit upon the only way to skin a cat.

Are you not impressed or are you not informed?

Evola is certainly relevant to a proper understanding of Islam. Savitri Devi is good too. If you had read them perhaps you would know what I'm referring to. I've explained it plenty of time in other threads, I dont need to repeat it here.

As for Guenon, he actually moved to Egypt and became a Sufi, so he was pretty well informed as well. Oh, I would mention that he moved there when Nasser was employing Skorzeny and more than a handful of other NS alte kampfen to upgrade his armed forces. So you can snivel at the idea of an Aryan-Muslim collaboration against the Jew, but the historical precedents are there.

I am informed, but I am not impressed. I am informed because my day job is in the middle east so have an understanding of the arab psyche.

Savitri Devi was a sad French woman who went native, dressing up in a dirty old Sari instead of making her own European French culture her reference point. If shewas a genuine indian I'd be impressed, as it is, she was a fake Indian, a white who pretended to be a Hindu 'paki'.

Enlightenment or insight on simple issues rarely comes from studying the obscure. Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like; Empiricism is generally the more effective approach than remote interpretation.

As for NS alte kampfen I was raised ina NS community so I share your respect for them.

Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like;

Sartre actually wrote a book called 'Anti Semite and Jew.' I read some of it last year and from what I recall he echoed the communist party line concluding that anti-semitism was brought about in generally mentally unstable people due to envy and jealousy of jewish success and accomplishments.

To see if I was mistaken and that maybe the wise figure of Rounder was after all better informed than I and correct; I asked a couple of old-time contacts in the sandy countries about whether they would be interested in discreetly donating some spare cash for the WN cause: these being Abdul Aziz Al Ghurair only a humble bank manager but at least Arab, and Abdulnabi Macki who is a mere civil servant ('Wazir') in a sand-filled country in which I have longtime contacts.

I mentioned that there was a good old boy called ‘Rounder’ who would help fight the wicked J**w., and would they both be interested in discreetly chipping in to subsidise a peaceful WN campaign from a remote way off?: They were quick to explain that fighting of any sort is not high on their (wealthy)Arab states agenda and the notion conflicts with their own nations respective vision of progress and development. Pluralism and the messy world of WN politics do not seem to enjoy any regional tradition, support nor cultural affinity with the arabs.

Cutting a long story short, both wealthy arabs in the ‘social sample’ questioned, felt that ‘Rounder’ was probably suffering from indulging in too much of what the arab calls ‘SalSal’ and with regrets their main investment just at the mo’ was to create a syndicate of three local groups to use up a few billion bucks of expendable investment income (these being AbdulAziz’s Mashreqbank, Emirates Bank International and ADCB Bank) to provide the required contracting finance for the consortium chosen to construct the latest iconic Burj (a social housing Tower block of sorts) valued at 3.2 billion Riyals and soon to become the world’s tallest building. Divide by 3.73 to convert its cost into ZOG$.

In the conversation I asked whether the Saudis might be sponsoring the well known David Irving the famous exposer of jewish holocaust lies. Coincidentally Macki knows of Irving - and I was informed that both are ‘near neighbours’ in London’s Mayfair district (Britain’s wealthiest Real Estate zone) where Macki’s boss the Sultan of Oman has his modest multi-story multistorey hundred room Regency Townhouse and where the not-very-poor Irving owns his own deluxe Mayfair property (guess where Irving’s money comes from to fund it.....from book sales and WN donations of course. And Arab money? - ask Irving)

The agreement to keep out of political shenanigans and WN shenanigans at that; which Abdulnabi and AbdulAziz as sample arabs both consider irrelevant, is driven by looking after their own independent way of life, reinforced with a link up; not with Whites in the uncivil sector of politics, but with Koreans (the Chae-bol Samsung) in the civil sector of commercial engineering.

Instead of wanting to dabble in supporting US WN (or any other WN groups including the old European ones which I support) AbdulAziz has hired contractor Samsung Corporation and its non-WN and non-white partners: Belhasa and other local company Arabtec Construction Llc. The syndicated investment will be shared equally by three banks, with my old chum Abdul Aziz humble clerk at Mashreqbank acting as facility agent and security agent - for aseatic Koreans not WN’s.

Arab cash ready and available for big multi million dollar investments?. Perhaps a new War on Israel?. Subverting ZOG bydirectaction?. Gun running to WN groups ?. Publishing a WN newspaper? or just raising morale by offering to buy a round of beers? Nope-aroo. Instead they are building a skyscraper set to become the world’s tallest structure and “an icon of vibrancy” for the new Mercedes driving, megawealthy, indifferent to WN politics, Arabs .

TheBurj tower (itz) a symbol as AbdulAziz put it “for the entire world to see that we have no desire in meddling in Western politics."

Well there you have it then. Arab oil states cash likely to be diverted from bettering themselves to better the Infidel instead? . Its not going to happen, ever, not when they can spend their money instead on bettering themselves .

Due for completion by end of 2008, the Tower will be the centrepiece of the 500-acre, $8 billion “Downtown Dubai’ development with a final height still shrouded in mist and rumours ranging from 700 to 900 metres - with not a single Arab petro-shekhel being likely to be cast in the direction of any WN. Except to those that get off their rear to go do an honest days work in the arab countries .

The Arab will fund Real Estate developments for arabs in their own countries, they will fund limitless construction of Mosques in the West, they will pay one-way tickets for Muslim asylum seekers from pakistan to go colonise the west; but give a shekhel to a WN?. Will the cash-rich arabs cast even a single ZOG$-linked petro-shekhel into the open paw of impoverished Infidel WN groups?.

SADLY NOT. :mad:

To see if I was mistaken and that maybe the wise figure of Rounder was after all better informed than I and correct; I asked a couple of old-time contacts in the sandy countries about whether they would be interested in discreetly donating some spare cash for the WN cause: these being Abdul Aziz Al Ghurair only a humble bank manager but at least Arab, and Abdulnabi Macki who is a mere civil servant ('Wazir') in a sand-filled country in which I have longtime contacts.

I mentioned that there was a good old boy called ‘Rounder’ who would help fight the wicked J**w., and would they both be interested in discreetly chipping in to subsidise a peaceful WN campaign from a remote way off?: They were quick to explain that fighting of any sort is not high on their (wealthy)Arab states agenda and the notion conflicts with their own nations respective vision of progress and development. Pluralism and the messy world of WN politics do not seem to enjoy any regional tradition, support nor cultural affinity with the arabs.

Cutting a long story short, both wealthy arabs in the ‘social sample’ questioned, felt that ‘Rounder’ was probably suffering from indulging in too much of what the arab calls ‘SalSal’ and with regrets their main investment just at the mo’ was to create a syndicate of three local groups to use up a few billion bucks of expendable investment income (these being AbdulAziz’s Mashreqbank, Emirates Bank International and ADCB Bank) to provide the required contracting finance for the consortium chosen to construct the latest iconic Burj (a social housing Tower block of sorts) valued at 3.2 billion Riyals and soon to become the world’s tallest building. Divide by 3.73 to convert its cost into ZOG$.

In the conversation I asked whether the Saudis might be sponsoring the well known David Irving the famous exposer of jewish holocaust lies. Coincidentally Macki knows of Irving - and I was informed that both are ‘near neighbours’ in London’s Mayfair district (Britain’s wealthiest Real Estate zone) where Macki’s boss the Sultan of Oman has his modest multi-story multistorey hundred room Regency Townhouse and where the not-very-poor Irving owns his own deluxe Mayfair property (guess where Irving’s money comes from to fund it.....from book sales and WN donations of course. And Arab money? - ask Irving)

The agreement to keep out of political shenanigans and WN shenanigans at that; which Abdulnabi and AbdulAziz as sample arabs both consider irrelevant, is driven by looking after their own independent way of life, reinforced with a link up; not with Whites in the uncivil sector of politics, but with Koreans (the Chae-bol Samsung) in the civil sector of commercial engineering.

Instead of wanting to dabble in supporting US WN (or any other WN groups including the old European ones which I support) AbdulAziz has hired contractor Samsung Corporation and its non-WN and non-white partners: Belhasa and other local company Arabtec Construction Llc. The syndicated investment will be shared equally by three banks, with my old chum Abdul Aziz humble clerk at Mashreqbank acting as facility agent and security agent - for aseatic Koreans not WN’s.

Arab cash ready and available for big multi million dollar investments?. Perhaps a new War on Israel?. Subverting ZOG bydirectaction?. Gun running to WN groups ?. Publishing a WN newspaper? or just raising morale by offering to buy a round of beers? Nope-aroo. Instead they are building a skyscraper set to become the world’s tallest structure and “an icon of vibrancy” for the new Mercedes driving, megawealthy, indifferent to WN politics, Arabs .

TheBurj tower (itz) a symbol as AbdulAziz put it “for the entire world to see that we have no desire in meddling in Western politics."

Well there you have it then. Arab oil states cash likely to be diverted from bettering themselves to better the Infidel instead? . Its not going to happen, ever, not when they can spend their money instead on bettering themselves .

Due for completion by end of 2008, the Tower will be the centrepiece of the 500-acre, $8 billion “Downtown Dubai’ development with a final height still shrouded in mist and rumours ranging from 700 to 900 metres - with not a single Arab petro-shekhel being likely to be cast in the direction of any WN. Except to those that get off their rear to go do an honest days work in the arab countries .

The Arab will fund Real Estate developments for arabs in their own countries, they will fund limitless construction of Mosques in the West, they will pay one-way tickets for Muslim asylum seekers from pakistan to go colonise the west; but give a shekhel to a WN?. Will the cash-rich arabs cast even a single ZOG$-linked petro-shekhel into the open paw of impoverished Infidel WN groups?.

SADLY NOT. :mad:

Arab-Aryan cooperation terrifies you that much, huh?

Good !!! You make my case with your typically kike-a-like, anti-Arab jibberish.

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Savitri Devi was a sad French woman who went native, dressing up in a dirty old Sari instead of making her own European French culture her reference point. If shewas a genuine indian I'd be impressed, as it is, she was a fake Indian, a white who pretended to be a Hindu 'paki'.

Enlightenment or insight on simple issues rarely comes from studying the obscure. Jean Paul Sartre may have written an existentialist volume on what a fried egg tastes like. Although you would undobtedly be in awe and quote Sartre or other pseud on that topic; those with a more direct approach would simply crack an egg and fry it to see what it tastes like; Empiricism is generally the more effective approach than remote interpretation.

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Maybe Devi's Greek and French backround gave her a broader perspective which allowed here in turn to consider affinities between Hinduism and European culture? Are you also unimpressed by Revilo Oliver for his academic work on Sanskrit literature? Did that make him a fake Hindu for translating "A Little Clay Cart?" Too bad he earned himself a tenured position at Univ of Illinois which allowed him to spend the next forty years writing White Nationalist viewpoints and commentary of the highest quality!

As for Sartre, to me he is just another Marxist. I am little in awe of him although we did read Huis Clos in French class which I thought was a good play. I never was much interested in his philosophy.

Now about all these particulars. Wonderful. You're basically restating something that we all know already, which is that in general, very rich people at this time, dont give a shit about nationalist politics, period. That's as true for Arabs as it is of Koreans or Germans or anybody. Probably the only departure from that is Jews who find a way to keep their richy riches contributing to the welfare of the Tribe. I realize these are mere obscurities to you but if rise above your particulars for a minute and think of an answer to the problem feel free to share it. Meanwhile, allow us to engage in a some speculation hmmm?

I respect your counter-opinions.

Tomorrow its the 11th day of Rabie Al’ Awal in the Muslims calendar and I guarantee that on that date not one of the worlds arabs, rich or poor, will donate a single Petro-shekhel to the WN cause, though ever-optimistic I can sound out local opinion, and ask.

Across the arab countries tomorrow, the Arabs will be issuing tonnes of Birthday cakes with a tally of 1,400 plus candles lit on each cholesterol packed confection; and they will conspicuously not be celebrating Hitler’s birthday.

Y'see itz an Arab public holiday tomorrow on occasion of the prophet Mohammed’s 1,4**th birthday; and once again Muslim self interest will take precedence over NS celebrations that will be held tomorrow to commemorate the birth of the Fuehrer.

Itz a coincidence that for this year, the very rare and unusual event of the Arabs Hejira date of 11th Rabie 1st 1,426H, coincides with Hitler’s birthday on the Gregorian 20th of April 2005: but will any Arabs give a dried fig or even donate a dried date for white national socialism? and contribute to NS funding and respect any WN need for donations? or any other forms of materiel and cash-focused $$$$ support?.

Much as we all may regret it guys, the Arab cash will never flow in the WN direction.
:mad:

Arab cash is being directed to the fast growing Arab population in Europe. The idea that they would fund a silly, small, incompetent group like Kreis and his AN splinter is just plain silly.

Why would they fund others if they can fund their own?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/schuster.column/index.html

Aryan Nation leader reaches out to al Qaeda
SEBRING, Florida (CNN) -- A couple of hours up the road from where some September 11 hijackers learned to fly, the new head of Aryan Nation is praising them -- and trying to create an unholy alliance between his white supremacist group and al Qaeda.

Supremacist, Islamist connections
The idea of a Nazi-Islamic alliance dates back to World War II, when Adolf Hitler played host to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, that city's Muslim leader. Some Nazis, moreover, found refuge in places like Egypt and Syria after the war.

Three years ago, I met a Swiss Islamic convert named Ahmed Huber, who began his life as a devotee of Adolf Hitler and moved on to praising former Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, who led that nation's Islamic revolution and vigorously opposed U.S. policies.

Huber wanted to forge a fresh alliance between Islamic radicals and neo-Nazis in Europe and the United States. And he cannot be simply dismissed as a crackpot: Huber served on the board of directors of a Swiss bank and holding company that President Bush accused of helping fund al Qaeda.

Mark Potok, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, said that while some U.S. extremists applauded the September 11 attacks, there is no indication of such an alliance -- at least not yet, and not on a large scale. If it exists anywhere, he said, it is in the mind (and the Internet postings) of August Kreis.

For its part, the FBI says it hasn't seen any links between American white supremacists and groups like al Qaeda.

"The notion of radical Islamists from abroad actually getting together with American neo-Nazis I think is an absolutely frightening one," said Potok. "It's just that so far we really have no evidence at all to suggest this is any kind of real collaboration."

So while August Kreis may be calling, there is no sign that al Qaeda is listening.

But that hasn't stopped him. As we ended our interview, we asked Kreis if he had any message for Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants.

"The message is, the cells are out here and they are already in place," Kreis said. "They might not be cells of Islamic people, but they are here and they are ready to fight."

Are you sure yah’ll want to form an alliance? Seem to me zog is already giving a helping hand or already have phony cell’s set up in luring WN.

Look; ZOG’s intrusion in the Middle East is draining the resources and manpower. The further they stay there the more folks back home will grow restless. Just like back in the Vietnam; after a decade of war and stalemate they had to pull out.

Arab-Aryan cooperation terrifies you that much, huh?

Good !!! You make my case with your typically kike-a-like, anti-Arab jibberish.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me you might not agree then?. :rolleyes:

PS Quote:
"both wealthy arabs in the ‘social sample’ questioned, felt that ‘Rounder’ was probably suffering from indulging in too much of what the arab calls ‘SalSal’

On that last point, consensus at last between me and the arabs.....

Unless these American Arabs are painfully naive, they should know that a successful campaign against America's Jews means they too will be rounded up (and, if necessary, beaten senseless with truncheons and deported at gunpoint) should WNs ever take control. Knowing that, why in holy fuck would they aid in their own dispossesion?

A riddle, itz!


I don't think so. If Arans fought with us, they would not be treated like niggers or jews. They would be treated as allies until victory, at which point our differences would be dealt with at a negotiating table.

The leader of Dutch Islamists, Abdul-Jabbar van der Ven, is dutchman himself.

In the Netherlands, the leader of the Islamists, Abdul-Jabbar van der Ven, is a dutchman himself.

Well here is a very unique angle. Before I go any further, lets not clutter this thread with the "whose White" issue. There are a zillion places in VNN to do that
But when it comes to what you are proposing, well I have already done it, well sort of, but it is not quite the same thing. Again , just be patient and here me out before the flame fits.
You see the membership of my new WN organization, the Pan Aryan National Front, is roughly 25-30% White Iranian, White Berber, White (Anatolian) Turk, and White Near Eastern (Near Eastern means a non-Iranian, Turkish or Nerbrer White from the ME. These people generally speak Arabic, but are not Arabs, descending from Ancient Aryan and Crusader elements,and often but not always Christian).At any rate though the great bulk of the former group is Iranian and Berber. If you add the Albanians and Bosniaks, the figure goes above 45%
Now one thing you must understand is this. These people in my group do not view themselves as Semites or Arabs,but as Aryans as we are, though obviously different in someways as Scotsmen and Italians would be different. BUT in many cases more hostile to Arabs than anyone on this board. Most are Zoroastrian, Christian, Atheist with a few conservative non-fundy Moslems
They not only are willing to cooperate with WNs ,but far better ARE WNs
The problem is this. The Wahabbis and these guys might be allies on the anti-zionits thing, but thats is. My guys see them as Tazi who tried to destroy the Aryan presence in the ME,and its likely the Wahbbis would likely hate them more than they hate the Jews
But if WNs want support from the ME,its there.But not if you automatically write ALL of them off as Muds.The ones with me are not of the muddy persuasion and are not usually even practicing Moslems, but they are ready to fight with us if a bit of respect is shown
By that I dont mean you have to hop in the hay with them, just respect as Aryans. So there it is. Flame away if you wish, but it might profit you much more to at least check it out:

http://www.panf.info/upload/index.php?

Hi diabloblanco92,

I've been checking your forum out regularly since you started it --- Good site. I just thought I'd say hi before the usual suspects whack you up side the head.

all the best,

Enkidu

Hi diabloblanco92,

I've been checking your forum out regularly since you started it --- Good site. I just thought I'd say hi before the usual suspects whack you up side the head.

all the best,

Enkidu

Thanks much and good to see you here brother!