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TylerD
December 4th, 2003, 03:43 PM
Really I see no point in even allowing them to come here (opposition section), let alone spam our threads with their trolling. At best, people will feel the need to counter what the idiots say and at worst it could begin to consume most of their time posting (take a look at Stormfront).

Why not just have a forum for Whites interested or wanting to know about our cause?

Gott
December 4th, 2003, 06:40 PM
Stick the nigger in the opposition section. It will train him for riding in the back of the bus again, that is if he survives the day of the rope.

western-nationalist
December 5th, 2003, 01:29 AM
We should at most have one forum where all of the Non-whites and non-WN's could post, but not in our other forums.

Craig Smith
December 5th, 2003, 01:38 AM
1. Stop replying to trolls and they occur less frequently.

2. Move all troll-infested threads to the opposition debate area.

Tom88
December 5th, 2003, 09:56 AM
It's been taken care of. Let their threads sink into the back of the forums, and we'll be in good shape.

-Tom

Gott
December 7th, 2003, 09:50 PM
It's been taken care of. Let their threads sink into the back of the forums, and we'll be in good shape.

-Tom

That Fade the Butcher sucks - he's here just to cause trouble and fuck things up. Can you throw him in the opposition forum to stay? Even that nigger isn't as bad.

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 7th, 2003, 11:03 PM
Pardon my generational hackneyism, but Fade's the coolest, in my opinion.

I also like MuadDib, Northern Bastion, Magnus Volk, SDY6401, William Z., Kievsky, and a whole lot more. ...Even 'anti-mindbender' Joseph Morgan when he's not hectoring against the swastika which he is doing too much of the time.

We'll all be (actually are) in the war together. I think as things get worse, we'll get closer. We don't have long to wait.

no_nomen
December 7th, 2003, 11:18 PM
That Fade the Butcher - he's here just to cause trouble and fuck things up. Can you throw him in the opposition forum to stay? Even that nigger isn't as bad.

Gott Sir,

Be careful what you ask for - you may just get a "moderator" like one the old VNN Forum had: (Not refering to Tom!)
(A question for you: Why do you even reply to FTB?)
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PM -Author Message
The DOC [/COLOR] - Moderator
08-18-2003 06:59

Take it to Opposition Debate

Your views are well known reguarding Christianity...
I will delete that sort of thing in the future.

Re: VNNForum > Main Conversation > General Discussion > TIME to throw off the seed of satan !

Magnus
December 8th, 2003, 01:23 AM
That Fade the Butcher sucks - he's here just to cause trouble and fuck things up. Can you throw him in the opposition forum to stay? Even that nigger isn't as bad.

You sound like a little girl. Use your ignore button.

Steve B
December 8th, 2003, 02:29 AM
']Whats the point in sending non-whites and antis into a particular forum when you yourselves are doing such a great job at making WN's look like idiots?

Translation: I'm scared to death I won't be able to post my anti-White Male dribble with reckless abandon in opposition forum. I need a podium where I can chant the wonders of diversity, we awls beez equlz, blacks would do as well as Whites if only they had the "opportunity" and "proper funding", women could fight in combat and lift fire hoses as well as men if it werent for the "enslavement" that "evil" White Males have "perpetrated" against them, I'm so angry I could just scream!!!!

TylerD
December 8th, 2003, 03:54 AM
']The opposition forum is dead because you are all too busy fighting amongst yourselves in all the other forums. Give us anti's a job...pleeeasse.

Maybe you didn't get the hint that nobody wants you around, troll.

Gott
December 8th, 2003, 09:41 AM
']Right now you blame the minorities for your problems, in a WN world you will do as you do here, blame other whites for your problems.

Why do you fight amongst yourselves when there is a much stronger "enemy" out there? Why don't you whites stick together? Are the Jews brainwashing you into fighting with yourselves?


People fight because they believe in freedom and feel that their view is right. New idea to you? Isn't that supposed to be the core meaning of genuine 'diversity'? You know, the opposite of the fake, lying, anti any real diversity that rules your world, 67? The SS had the best training in the world because they were taught to fight as individuals who were equipped to take over any position when and if the shit hit the fan. Work together with your comrades, but think and act as an individual too.

I can disagree with those on my side (and do all the time), but I respect them and listen to what they have to say. That way I learn a lot and it makes me stronger than you, who march, lock step with your nigger and kike 'brothers.'

And I like to fight (it seems that I am not alone in this either). It's in the Aryan blood, I really like it and laugh in the face of any who start with their fighting is bad, yada yada yada bull shit. The more you do something, the better you get at it. Get it yet?

This verbal fighting is part of the larger fighting. That is why we of European blood always win in the end, 67. Read a history book. Aetius and his Visigoth allies smashed the gooks in the 5th, and Charles Martel in the ___ centuries, and after the kikes and bought traitors are taken care of (Denmark is well on its way to being turd world free right now and Le Pen is set for a big win as he heads his gigantic party) then the scum will be sent packing yet again. A few hundred Spaniards destroyed the entire Aztec and Inca empires, and all the 'empires' (hahahahaha) of Africa. We win because we are ready, willing and able to fight - we like to and we know how. It will take longer, maybe, in the USA as the yids have their claws dug in deepest here, but it will happen just the same. You seriously propose to argue that the sub human muck that brought the world contemporary Detroit and Washington D.C. or name your filthy, decayed Latin American barrio, are going to beat dedicated white men? Yeah, sure...but only in jew Hollywood movies.

no_nomen
December 8th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Use your ignore button.

And don't the anti and yids just hate that... hahaha!

There is Nothing that makes 'em madder!

Gott
December 8th, 2003, 09:57 AM
And don't the anti and yids just hate that... hahaha!

There is Nothing that makes 'em madder!


I didn't know there was one:) Where is it!!!!

no_nomen
December 8th, 2003, 10:01 AM
I didn't know there was one:) Where is it!!!!
Usually somewhere on forums like this.

But I always just use the one in my head.... ;)

ModDib
December 8th, 2003, 10:53 AM
']Good post Gott, normally you post from the heart, now its from the head.

Ahhh, praise from squares.

Not at all, I believe in freedom. Unfortunaltely I think that your view of freedom will mean the loss of freedom to others.

Typical Jewspeak.

Yet they were beaten by black and white Americans who knew they were fighting for good over evil. The Germans didn't have that luxury.


Yes Black and White American's and Aryans all. How do you like that cool tune to wash down your tasty prune?

FadeTheButcher
December 8th, 2003, 11:06 AM
Aetius and his Visigoth allies smashed the gooks in the 5th, and Charles Martel in the ___ centuries, and after the kikes and bought traitors are taken care of (Denmark is well on its way to being turd world free right now and Le Pen is set for a big win as he heads his gigantic party) then the scum will be sent packing yet again. A few hundred Spaniards destroyed the entire Aztec and Inca empires, and all the 'empires' (hahahahaha) of Africa.

Gott, being the savage that he is, does not mention that Aëtius and the Visigoths fought together against the Huns because they were Christians, nor does he mention that Charles Martel was also a Christian as were the Spaniards who destroyed the Aztec and Inca Empires.

no_nomen
December 8th, 2003, 11:59 AM
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=2274#post2274


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who will be leading the white movement from here on.

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Gott
December 8th, 2003, 12:16 PM
No Americans, neither whites nor niggers (that is really absurd as niggers were hardly ever in combat - they were mostly supply troops and even fucked that up), beat the SS. You mostly stay with generalities, 67, and it's best that you do. Germany lost the war of course - but no soldiers of any other country came even close to the quality of the average German soldier, let alone the Waffen SS. Why? Innate German superiority? Maybe, but that's subjective and hard to prove. What is easy to prove is that those men fought because they had something real to believe in, not the vague generalities, propagandist created sound bites and outright lies that provide the sole motive on the other side. And they had much better training that was cognizant of their innate worth as individuals. To the last days of the war, any decently equipped group of German soldiers would send much larger allied groupings running.

You are usually fairly careful about covering your ass, but really: Yet they were beaten by black and white Americans who knew they were fighting for good over evil.

That is more Walt Disney even than Walt Disney. For one thing do some reading about the actual engagements of that war and the almost incredible fire power we brave allies felt the absolute necessity to pour on any German troops before even dreaming about actually engaging them. And the intentional, totally criminal terror bombing campaign, initiated by the allies (Churchill in particular) aimed at murdering the largest number of innocent civilians possible in order to break the will to fight. If they were beaten by black and white Americans, how come the need for such absurd firepower, how come the need to murder hundreds of thousands German women and children?

The Germans were not beaten by other men but by American industrial might, and Russian man power - slaves sent into the line by the jew commissars behind them, who would machine gun them if they refused to march forward over mine fields to the German guns. And both, along with England, totally controlled by the kikes, who had to destroy Germany as Germany had figured out a extremely successful way to withdraw from kike imposed economic, intellectual and moral slavery. If Germany succeeded, of course, every other country not totally controlled by the jews would follow the German model. South and Latin America had gone pretty far to join that model by the late 30s.

Needless to say the Allies won, but spare me the rah rah bull shit.

Gott
December 8th, 2003, 12:33 PM
Gott, being the savage that he is, does not mention that Aëtius and the Visigoths fought together against the Huns because they were Christians, nor does he mention that Charles Martel was also a Christian as were the Spaniards who destroyed the Aztec and Inca Empires.



No shit Sherlock? What a fucking Revelation (your stock in trade, eh?) that Europe had been forcibly converted (at least the cities) by the 5th century! I see what you mean about being 'a scholar.' And was still christian by the time of Charles Martel? wow and you don't say.

The Spaniards were christian? I humbly thank you for that new information. I had always thought they were wiccans.

Like anyone had a fucking choice with the option being burning at the stake after some quality time on the rack. Hahahahaha.

And, the Romans and Visigoths fought together because they were European. They were of christian sects so opposed that they persecuted each other - and with a savagery known only to the religion from hell - jew/christian/moslem. Like most of the Germanic tribes, the Visigoths were arians - a sect which loathed orthodox christianity and persecuted it vigorously. After all, denying the transmigration ...or the triple divinity, or humanity, or divihumanity, or disagreeing with my assessment of how many angels can and can't dance on the head of a pin...all capital offenses under the religion of brotherly love!

Julian had such a good and such an amusing idea when he reverted back to ancient Roman traditions and allowed total religious freedom - which you jewchristians immediately used to start killing each other off in the largest possible numbers. Some things never change, huh felch?

I'll have the ignore thing figured out in no time and then it's back to the Stations of The Cross for you, kike.

FadeTheButcher
December 8th, 2003, 04:12 PM
No shit Sherlock? What a fucking Revelation (your stock in trade, eh?) that Europe had been forcibly converted (at least the cities) by the 5th century! I see what you mean about being 'a scholar.' And was still christian by the time of Charles Martel? wow and you don't say.

Are you suggesting all cities in Europe were Christian in the 8th century?

The Spaniards were christian? I humbly thank you for that new information. I had always thought they were wiccans.

Information does have a hard time penetrating your part of the swamp.

Like anyone had a fucking choice with the option being burning at the stake after some quality time on the rack. Hahahahaha.

Tell us what the Romans did to Boadicea Gott.

And, the Romans and Visigoths fought together because they were European.

ROFLMFAO. Provide empirical evidence the the Romans and Visigoths fought together because they were "Europeans."

They were of christian sects so opposed that they persecuted each other - and with a savagery known only to the religion from hell - jew/christian/moslem. Like most of the Germanic tribes, the Visigoths were arians - a sect which loathed orthodox christianity and persecuted it vigorously.

Constantine was an Arian you fucking idiot.

After all, denying the transmigration ...or the triple divinity, or humanity, or divihumanity, or disagreeing with my assessment of how many angels can and can't dance on the head of a pin...all capital offenses under the religion of brotherly love!Julian had such a good and such an amusing idea when he reverted back to ancient Roman traditions and allowed total religious freedom

LOL yes, by all means, tell us what happened to the Druids.

which you jewchristians immediately used to start killing each other off in the largest possible numbers. Some things never change, huh felch?

Why were there Jews in the Roman Empire Gott? Why were there so many Jewish slaveowners?

I'll have the ignore thing figured out in no time and then it's back to the Stations of The Cross for you, kike.

Bark eaters ignore all sorts of things, like civilization.

Gott
December 8th, 2003, 06:12 PM
Well, I got the ignore issue worked out, so unless you start behaving your evil self, this is goodbye to a man who is without honor, a fraud, wholly dishonest, and stupid too.

The only person talking about all the cities of Europe is you. I mentioned the Romans and the Visigoths, and parenthetically the christianized parts of Europe at the time - which were the urban centers, not the rural areas. But by all means, in fundamental kike fashion, lie, slither off the subject, move on to something else and generally cause trouble, etc.

And, incidentally, I don't know of too many cities outside the confines of the Ex-Roman Empire, in Europe, in the 8th century. Or many cities at all, by the 8th century. Though the Battle of the Maurician Plains was fought right in the middle of the 5th century, so what the fuck the 8th has to do with anything escapes me.

Like your survey of the cities of Europe in the 8th century, Boadicea has nothing whatsoever to do with anything here. More jew spoiling tactics.

Empirical evidence? And this from an apologist for, and votary/ass sucker of the sand-nigger kike-god? Look in a mirror and ask yourself for some. You want book quotations? Like for instance from your middlebrow 'a short history of’? Just like the evening news, eh? Not too weighty - just the best of, or juiciest tidbits. A thorough history book? Na, what a bummer that would be having to read all those words, and maybe having to think and weigh information. You stick to ‘brief.’ I'm rereading Thomas Hodgkin's Huns, Vandals and The Fall of The Roman Empire right now - and it is neither brief nor short. But it does cite - at length - numerous original, first generation sources for the events of this period. And it smacks 'for Europe' all over the place as a motive and hardly mentions religion at all - sensible as the Romans were catholic/orthodox and the Visigoths were arian/heretics. Only an idiot would even bring up the issue - if you catch my drift. Read and deal with it yourself - I'm not taking any new pupils this term. Read some Gibbon on the subject too, he's also very good. Outdated, I know, both of them. Not the cutting edge jew-fashion-statement you are used to, and require.

Anyway, if you want empirical evidence – let’s meet at Hadrian’s villa in Tivoli and we’ll do a test to see if the toilet’s still work – by shoving your head in one of them.


Constantine was an Arian you fucking idiot. Oh he was? Well, this is where you are completely revealed as either a jerk who is talking about subjects he knows nothing of (search engines can sometimes fuck up), or more likely, the jew plant I've been calling you from the first. That’s interesting empirical evidence about Constantine, as Constantine was baptized on his DEATH BED and so wasn't any kind of christian at all till he was dead. In addition to which, he reigned between 306 and 337 while the period we are discussing – when the Battle of the Maurician Plains was fought in which Aetius and Teodoric I defeated Attila, took place in 451. You know one hundred and fourteen years later? So then, what is the connection, or the point of your lie about Constantine being an arian? Even if true, it would have nothing at all to do with the issue. Valentinian III, who reigned in 451, was orthodox (catholic I suppose) and Theodoric was an arian, you lying scum.

As to the Druids - Julian, whose name prompted your pointless, idiotic mention of the Druids, was Emperor from 361 to 363, and the Druids, who indeed had been offed by the Romans, had been long gone by this time. Your habit of mashing together events that took place in centuries which are sometimes separated by other centuries is none too scholarly, and it is highly dishonest. I think you may be watching too much History Channel, where I assume you got your advanced degrees. Anyway, the Druids and the kikes have nothing to do with the post I wrote, which was intended as a post, not a history of the fucking world. I’ll talk about the Druids and the filthy jews when I feel like it. Not that they have anything whatsoever to do with this.

Gott
December 9th, 2003, 09:27 AM
[QUOTE=no_nomen]Gott Sir,

Be careful what you ask for - you may just get a "moderator" like one the old VNN Forum had: (Not referring to Tom!)
(A question for you: Why do you even reply to FTB?)
............................

Well, I didn't know how the ignore feature worked then. Now he's on it, so everything is jake. Still though, this is, I think, a problem and is going to be come a bigger one as more join up here.

Fade LIES - intentionally, and that is only to cause trouble. He is not a fair player, so why is he here? The tactics he uses are jew tactics - I've seen kikes on plenty of other boards do exactly the same things. There was a guy on Liberty Forum EXACTLY like fade - a so-called rabbi expert on the holocaust and all other history issues. And he totally ruined all discussions that were attempting to, and sometimes even managing to, get somewhere. So, being concerned about it isn't being a little girl. I'm happy to fight with fair persons - but having anything to do with those with hidden motives, with those who lie, is simply pointless. There are plenty of better ways to piss off one's time.

People like him don't want people like us to be able to get together and move forward in a straight line. The more like him around here, the higher and higher the radio interference noises until they drown out the real talk.

I talked to him because I hoped he was genuine. But the lies prove he isn't. He talks (badly) about history, and that is my favorite subject, and hardly anyone else is interested. But talking about any subject with a dishonorable liar is pointless, so it's ignore.

Since ignore works, fine. But why have the fucking opposition forum if not for this reason?

Fredrik Haerne
December 9th, 2003, 09:54 AM
Gott, being the savage that he is, does not mention that Aëtius and the Visigoths fought together against the Huns because they were Christians

*S* What's the matter, Fanatic Fade? Bullshitters Anonymous threw you out so you have to come here to throw shit around?

The Goths, as everyone knows, were stand-up Pagan folks from the best parts of Europe. Unfortunately they were caught by the Jewish/Christian lies in Rome, but luckily enough for Europe they still retained their many good qualities for quite some time, and so they were able to fight the Huns.

Unfortunately, however, Europe later became far too tolerant of losers because of the Worm Religion, and that's why retards like Fade the Fanatic are not drowned at birth today. :p

FadeTheButcher
December 9th, 2003, 12:54 PM
Well, I got the ignore issue worked out, so unless you start behaving your evil self, this is goodbye to a man who is without honor, a fraud, wholly dishonest, and stupid too.

ROFL Gott is now describing me as “evil.” How quaint, actually, in all my years on the Internet, I don’t think I have ever been called that before.

The only person talking about all the cities of Europe is you

“No shit Sherlock? What a fucking Revelation (your stock in trade, eh?) that Europe had been forcibly converted (at least the cities) by the 5th century!”

-- Gott

Actually, Gott is discussing the “cities of Europe” here, not the Western Empire of Rome. The Western Empire and “Europe” are not the same thing you fucking moron.

I mentioned the Romans and the Visigoths, and parenthetically the christianized parts of Europe at the time - which were the urban centers, not the rural areas.

Actually, Gott mentioned the “cities of Europe” that had been forcibly converted by the fifth century, cities that were still supposedly converted in the time of Charles Martel. Gott ignores the fact that the Moslems had already conquered Visigoth Spain decades before the Battle of Tours.

But by all means, in fundamental kike fashion, lie, slither off the subject, move on to something else and generally cause trouble, etc.

Gott replies with one of his typical puerile ad hominems here but if he wants to play that game I will oblige him.

And, incidentally, I don't know of too many cities outside the confines of the Ex-Roman Empire, in Europe, in the 8th century.

The Moors conquered Spain in 711 you fucking idiot.

Or many cities at all, by the 8th century. Though the Battle of the Maurician Plains was fought right in the middle of the 5th century, so what the fuck the 8th has to do with anything escapes me.

GG, you lose.

“And was still christian by the time of Charles Martel? wow and you don't say.”

-- Gott

Like your survey of the cities of Europe in the 8th century, Boadicea has nothing whatsoever to do with anything here. More jew spoiling tactics.

Gott sees Jews everywhere, amongst other things, like deities in the bark he eats.

Empirical evidence?

I asked Gott to support his assertion that “the Romans and Visigoths fought together because they were European.” Lets see if is able to support this preposterous assertion with anything more than his own little jejune opinion.

And this from an apologist for, and votary/ass sucker of the sand-nigger kike-god? Look in a mirror and ask yourself for some. You want book quotations? Like for instance from your middlebrow 'a short history of’? Just like the evening news, eh? Not too weighty - just the best of, or juiciest tidbits. A thorough history book? Na, what a bummer that would be having to read all those words, and maybe having to think and weigh information. You stick to ‘brief.’

Guess not, Gott loses again.

I'm rereading Thomas Hodgkin's Huns, Vandals and The Fall of The Roman Empire right now - and it is neither brief nor short. But it does cite - at length - numerous original, first generation sources for the events of this period. And it smacks 'for Europe' all over the place as a motive and hardly mentions religion at all - sensible as the Romans were catholic/orthodox and the Visigoths were arian/heretics.

Cite the relevant passages for us Gott. Better yet, why don’t you give us the relevant page numbers. I will go check this book out the library, photocopy the pages, scan then, and post them here for everyone to see.

Only an idiot would even bring up the issue - if you catch my drift.

Wait. I thought it was Jews who cite their sources right. Perhaps you are getting a tad confused, that bark can be quite potent.

Read and deal with it yourself - I'm not taking any new pupils this term. Read some Gibbon on the subject too, he's also very good. Outdated, I know, both of them. Not the cutting edge jew-fashion-statement you are used to, and require.

Why don’t you cite the passages for us Gott instead of naming books out of thin air you have never read.

Anyway, if you want empirical evidence – let’s meet at Hadrian’s villa in Tivoli and we’ll do a test to see if the toilet’s still work – by shoving your head in one of them.

Hey guess what, Gott lives in a trailer park after all.

Oh he was? Well, this is where you are completely revealed as either a jerk who is talking about subjects he knows nothing of (search engines can sometimes fuck up), or more likely, the jew plant I've been calling you from the first.

More barbarism from Gott, understandable, Gott has been in a foul mood since the curtains were stole off his truck this morning.

That’s interesting empirical evidence about Constantine, as Constantine was baptized on his DEATH BED and so wasn't any kind of christian at all till he was dead.

LOL is that right?

“It is true that the emperor was not baptized until he was on his deathbed, but the baptism of infants was not general in those days; Constantine, for the last twenty-five years of his life, was a sincere Christian.”

Norman F. Cantor, The Civilization of the Middle Ages (New York, 1993), p.49

Ouch, pwnd.

In addition to which, he reigned between 306 and 337 while the period we are discussing – when the Battle of the Maurician Plains was fought in which Aetius and Teodoric I defeated Attila, took place in 451. You know one hundred and fourteen years later?

Did Julian, whom you mentioned, live in the 5th century Gott?

So then, what is the connection, or the point of your lie about Constantine being an arian? Even if true, it would have nothing at all to do with the issue.

“Constantine had been baptized on his deathbed by an Arian bishop, and his sons who succeeded him tended to be sympathetic to the Arian cause.”

Norman F. Cantor, The Civilization of the Middle Ages (New York, 1993), p.57

Valentinian III, who reigned in 451, was orthodox (catholic I suppose) and Theodoric was an arian, you lying scum.

Gott attacks a straw man.

As to the Druids - Julian, whose name prompted your pointless, idiotic mention of the Druids, was Emperor from 361 to 363, and the Druids, who indeed had been offed by the Romans, had been long gone by this time. Your habit of mashing together events that took place in centuries which are sometimes separated by other centuries is none too scholarly, and it is highly dishonest.

ROFL what was Gott actually discussing? Lets refresh his memory. For the gallery . .

“Julian had such a good and such an amusing idea when he reverted back to ancient Roman traditions and allowed total religious freedom”

-- Gott

If the ancient Romans allowed total religious freedom Gott, then tell us why they annihilated the Druids.

think you may be watching too much History Channel, where I assume you got your advanced degrees. Anyway, the Druids and the kikes have nothing to do with the post I wrote, which was intended as a post, not a history of the fucking world. I’ll talk about the Druids and the filthy jews when I feel like it. Not that they have anything whatsoever to do with this.

More savagery from Gott (Tom) and another bizarre rant about the Jews. Once again, Gott has to be as puerile as possible in order to be comprehensible to his white trash/loser audience. LOL GoVNN!

http://www.thephora.org/images/Tom.gif

Chat with you later Gott. Use protection

FadeTheButcher
December 9th, 2003, 01:14 PM
Well, I didn't know how the ignore feature worked then. Now he's on it, so everything is jake. Still though, this is, I think, a problem and is going to be come a bigger one as more join up here.

Having second thoughts about free speech are we now? That was quicker than I expected.

Fade LIES - intentionally, and that is only to cause trouble. He is not a fair player, so why is he here?

I have made a lot of trouble for you and Fredrik the bark eater come to think about it.

The tactics he uses are jew tactics - I've seen kikes on plenty of other boards do exactly the same things.

Yeah, like logic is so Jewish, honestly. :p

There was a guy on Liberty Forum EXACTLY like fade - a so-called rabbi expert on the holocaust and all other history issues. And he totally ruined all discussions that were attempting to, and sometimes even managing to, get somewhere. So, being concerned about it isn't being a little girl. I'm happy to fight with fair persons - but having anything to do with those with hidden motives, with those who lie, is simply pointless. There are plenty of better ways to piss off one's time.

LOL two days and Fredrik and Gott are already moaning like humiliores.

People like him don't want people like us to be able to get together and move forward in a straight line.

People like you (white trash) are a joke and an embarrassment to white people. LOL no one is going to follow you fucking rejects anywhere. Many racialists do not even want to be associated with your ilk. When normal white folks see people like Gott the thought that immediantly enters their minds are "get these losers away from me."

The more like him around here, the higher and higher the radio interference noises until they drown out the real talk.

Most White Nationalists have already had a good laugh at the filth you describe as "talk" and clicked the X on the top right hand side of their screens.

I talked to him because I hoped he was genuine. But the lies prove he isn't. He talks (badly) about history, and that is my favorite subject, and hardly anyone else is interested. But talking about any subject with a dishonorable liar is pointless, so it's ignore. Since ignore works, fine. But why have the fucking opposition forum if not for this reason?

Gott surrenders. Next please.

FadeTheButcher
December 9th, 2003, 01:25 PM
*S* What's the matter, Fanatic Fade? Bullshitters Anonymous threw you out so you have to come here to throw shit around?

Fredrik attempts to be funny and fails.

The Goths, as everyone knows, were stand-up Pagan folks from the best parts of Europe.

The Goths were actually Christians at Chalons Fredrik. Where were your bark eaters again? Selling white women to the riders of the steppes perhaps? Fighting in Attila's army?

Unfortunately they were caught by the Jewish/Christian lies in Rome, but luckily enough for Europe they still retained their many good qualities for quite some time, and so they were able to fight the Huns.

LOL what's your problem with the Huns Fredrik?

Unfortunately, however, Europe later became far too tolerant of losers because of the Worm Religion, and that's why retards like Fade the Fanatic are not drowned at birth today.

Hey Fredrik, give the names of some of those Scandinavian philosophers in 200 B.C.

Gott
December 10th, 2003, 05:32 PM
So what was your handle the last time around? You the guy from Scotland?

You don't know anything about military history and I'm really busy right now, and can't teach you at the moment. Not that you'd be honest enough to admit you'd been taught. Stick to what you know about anyway, you are much more interesting when you do (just like we all are). In my experience, outside of those who go to focused military history boards like Third Reich Fact Book, very few know this stuff, and the lingo, and have the background knowledge to really get into it. And, no offense, but military history is not about generalities, it is about precise specifics and I'm not super eager for a superficial chat about it. When you know the logistics of Dieppe and Dakar and the dispositions for the Second Battle of Kharkov, and the official arguments that resulted in not building a strategic heavy bomber, by all means, then lets go.

White people? Yeah, we are the only conquerors in history, right, 67? Do you know why and how Cortez conquered the Aztec empire with something like 300 men? When he landed and began marching inland, the subject peoples of the Aztecs flocked to him and fought against their own racial kin. And why? Because the Aztecs used them as a food source is why! At an Aztec religious event (one single event) the year preceding the landing of the Spanish, approximately 80,000 men, women, but mostly children, had been sacrificed. It took three entire days to kill them all - walking up a pyramid to have their heats ripped out, one by one. When Cortez was right outside the capital city - Montezuma sent him a gift - a gigantic platter of steaming human baby hearts. Aztec art centers on stelle bas reliefs of men - all of whom have many accessories - one of which has a name that clearly indicated what it was for. It is called a 'penis perforator.'

So tell me again about white men nastiness.

no_nomen
December 10th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Millions of people died because of Nazi Germany...

The Germans were brainwashed by the Nazi's...
We should never forget the REAL reason TENS of MILLIONS of Aryans
were Murdered and WHO did the CRIME for the jewish Money Powers –


WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE

- AND WHY WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE


We must ask WHY would the Good Christian
American, English and other people fight and die to
destroy the jews greatest enemy.

Tens of Millions of Aryans died to save the jewish Money Powers!

Guns, tanks, and bombs were the principal weapons of World
War II, but there were other, more subtle forms of warfare as
well. Words, posters, and films waged a constant battle for
the hearts and minds of the American citizenry just as surely
as military weapons engaged the enemy.
The exhibition is in two parts:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/powers_of_persuasion_intro.html

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/united_we_win/images_html/images/private_joe_louis_says.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/express2.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/britain.htm
Website Berlin: Historical events 1933-1945
http://www.ety.com/berlin/

THE DAY THE HATE FOR ALL MANKIND CAME
DOWN FROM MOUNT SINAI
Friday March 24, 1933

Do any doubt that these claims are authentic?

Then WHY in the world would a Good Christian Pastor travel all
over England and America trying get Christians and others to
Assassinate Adolf Hitler?

Direct quotes from christian sources,
____________
. Dietrich Bonhoeffer Home Page http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/

"Hitler must be assassinated for the sake of Christianity"
"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."

(The Plot To Assassinate Adolph Hitler) - "THE BONHOEFFER LEGACY"

"Bonhoeffer: Agent of Grace"

"As a young professor, Bonhoeffer adopted the rare position
of pacifism, based on his reading of the Sermon on the Mount."

"He wanted the ecumenical church to be an international
peacemaking community."

"Bonhoeffer confronted and repudiated racism in America
in 1930-31, and especially in the racial anti-Semitism of
the Third Reich."

"Churches and societies that transcend the divisiveness of
racism and nationalism reflect Bonhoeffer's spirit."

"The Jewish German pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer founded the
Confessing Church and encouraged the German conspirators
to overthrow Hitler and the Nazi regime."

"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."
__________________

THE CALL FOR WAR -- When Hitler had been soundly established,
Samuel Untermeyer, a New York Jewish lawyer, called for war on
Germany. This call was made through radio station WABC on
August 7, 1933. He had just returned from a world conference
of Jews at The Hague. In the broadcast, he said he was calling
for a "holy war", and described the Jews as "the aristocrats of the
world".

From that time the "Hate Germany" campaign was intensified
and made worldwide, with a special Jewish-organised
"National Conference of Jews and Christians" assisting!
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unt.htm

Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted
in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient
that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse
to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-
-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping....
we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people
to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very
existence depends." - ( C.B.S, August,7th, 1933 )

Just so my readers understand why so many European countries
***knew*** the bloodshed that had befallen Russia - a fact still
largely hidden from the average American - consider these
statistics, as stated in Elmer Elmhurst's classic "World Hoax",
published 1938 in the USA, stated on page 40:
"Altogether, the percentage of Jews in the Commissariat were
as follows - In 1917-18, of 316 Commissars, 300 were Jews
In 1920, of 457 Commissars, 322 were Jews In 1921, of 550
Commissars, 447 were Jews In 1922, of 525 Commissars,
445 were Jews

Therefore, when Hitler came to power, global Jewish organizations
were quick to organise economic warfare against Hitler's Germany
as a means of bringing the vibrant National Socialist state to its
knees.

Hitler was democratically elected Chancellor of Germany on January
30, 1933. That year was notable in the number of boycotts organised
throughout the world, most if not all provoked by Jewish interest
groups. The first Jewish declaration of war was pronounced on March
24, 1933.
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg2001/zg0109/010905
…………………

Remember as you peruse these pictures!
(American Propaganda Posters 1933-45)
.
Most of these virulent, hateful depictions of German soldiers and the
German Kaiser, who had almost as many Jewish advisors and officials
in his government as Bill Clinton does, took place before anyone had
ever heard of Adolf Hitler and before the advent of the "Nazi"
movement's rise to power. After 1933 (jewish Declaration of War on
Germany) the propaganda was non-stop anti-German hate.

Germans as Anti-Christians
Many, many more examples here:
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/antiproptoc.html

See: http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/allied_camps/sat-ngt1.jpg
Between 1 and 2 million German POWs died in American captivity
after surrender (1945)

We should never forget the REAL reason TENS of MILLIONS of Aryans
were Murdered and WHO did the CRIME for the jewish Money Powers –

See: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/luge.jpg
The caption is: "Death to Lies." A strong Nazi fist grips a
snake with "Marxism" and "High Finance" on it.
National Socailist Poster 1930-1932 period.

"Hitler began his rule by breaking with the international bankers.
He believed that Germany could never be a sovereign and really
independent state so long as she had to live on borrowed money.
Instead of going to the bankers for money to buy what she had to
procure from abroad, she bartered (that is, swapped) some of her
surplus to obtain what she needed from the surplus of other nations -
- without debts being incurred on either side.

And with this approach Germany was soon crowding out all competitors.
Moreover, for the money required to finance her vast programs for a
complete regeneration of the life of the German people and for making
Germany the most powerful state in Europe, he simply issued what
money was needed, on the authority of the German government, and
based it not on gold, of which he had none, but on the productive
wealth of the land within German confines, combined with the
productivity inherent in German brains and German labor.

"And it proved sound. It worked. In less than ten years Germany
became easily the most powerful state in Europe. It worked so
magically and magnificently that it sounded the death knell of the
entire Jewish money system. World Jewry knew that they had to
destroy Hitler's system, by whatever means might prove necessary,
or their own [system] would necessarily die.

And if it died, with it must die their dream and their hope of making
themselves masters of the world. The primary issue over which World
War II was fought was to determine which money system was to
survive. At bottom it was not a war between Germany and the so-
called allies. Primarily it was war to the death between Germany and
the International Money Power."

William Gayley Simpson, 'Which Way Western Man' (p.642)
Available from Natational Vangard Books

.

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 10th, 2003, 06:58 PM
[67] said to Gott-
I have a question, why do you support foreigners over Americans?
You dumb shit. Muds are no more "Americans" than the black cows out behind my house.

Our People are White. We live this. You haven't figured that out yet? What, do you think we've been 'kidding' you?

Our Race Is Our Nation.

HenryHaysExecutioner
December 10th, 2003, 07:36 PM
[B]

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg2001/zg0109/010905
…………………


Germans as Anti-Christians
Many, many more examples here:
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/antiproptoc.html

See: http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/allied_camps/sat-ngt1.jpg
Between 1 and 2 million German POWs died in American captivity
after surrender (1945)



Ahhhh.. the good ol' Zundelsite, yea he has LOTS of credibility :rolleyes: , check this out:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=348

Tell me no_nomen, do you have your OFFICIAL UFO INVESTIGATOR PASS yet? (no I am not kidding Zundel actually sold these, see the above link post number 6)

Gott
December 10th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Holy Kike on a stick! You were sure telling the truth when you said you didn't know much about it. This for instance: "The Nazi's wanted to take over the world. We all agree with that right?" NO, we don't all agree on that, and you can't possibly prove it. The statement is ludicrous and shows just how little you know and how brainwashed you are. One of the examples I gave of the kind of facts you need in order to talk military history - the long range bomber? The Fuhrer canceled that project in the mid 1930s - 1936, I believe. The German Army could not cross the English Channel, but it was planning to take over the world??? Logic, 87, logic? The Germans had no plans whatsoever to take over any except German territories that were stolen from Germany in 1919. And then, sure with such stupendous victories, the Fuhrer let it all go to his head and he began - BEGAN - behaving the way oh...England...and France...and the United States of American had been acting for, in some cases, centuries.

Until the declaration of war by England and France on Germany (not the other way around),the rump Czech state was Germany's only acquisition of non Germanic territory, and even with Poland, the fight was initially about the chuck of Germany taken from Germany and given to the Poles (which divided Prussia) at Versailles. That Germany was out to conquer the world is strictly jew lies, and absurd ones at that. You don't cancel long range bombers if you plan to conquer the world, you don't neglect to build navel transports if you plan to conquer the world. England has such bombers and transports, and the USA, and France, not Germany.

You can doubt it all you like buddy - the Aztecs, like the Mayans had a nice habit of carving their little festivities in stone and they are all there to be read - there are lots and lots of non politicized books on the subject. Go read some. All the native peoples who could possibly join the Spaniards did so as they were not happy about being eaten - and tortured at very great length before being eaten in many cases. Read and find out what 'the war of the flowers' means. Read and find out what happened to the winning teams in the soccer games they played. Find out some of the other fashion accessories worn, and used, like the tongue and ear piercers - for large scale bloodlettings. And how about that penis perforator, eh? Sound like something you'd like to try out? You want to be a diverse, multicultural fellow, don't you? Well, here is your change to try one of the really original Mayan fashion accessories yourself.

You see, 67, a major money making scam is not riding on the Mayan or Aztec historical record, so, unlike shoa business, no one has any reason whatsoever to lie about it. This stuff is all long since proven and documented, mostly by the people who did the penis perforating and eating of babies themselves.

And when you are through with the Mayans, start on the Huns and see what they did when they captured cities. Yes, those bad, bad, white people all right.

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 10th, 2003, 07:54 PM
']If "muds" are not American then you are not American, you are European.
There is some degree of exactness in this. Muds are American in the 'legal' sense, but not in our racial perception.

By the same measure, we Whites are American in the legal sense, and in the lineal sense from facts that we came here as Vikings and later as Englishmen hundreds of years ago, and set up our cultural forms and norms which built this civilization.

Yet if you mean to imply that great numbers of muds, by emotional preference or by civilizational camraderie, do not consider we Whites as "belonging" here (despite the facts our ancestors irrefutably having built this nation) , then you are completely correct.

We (many of us, I should say) do not racially consider muds to be Americans. And were we to have our way, they'd be GONE- whether from this territory or this life, it matters not...though I aver- there are those in our ranks who'd prefer it be 'gone from this life'.

Our People are not Americans- they are Whites. Please get that through your brain.

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 10th, 2003, 08:07 PM
And is you need any more evidences of the histories of Whites in North America, [67], you can read this. The Smithsonian has unearthed evidences that we used to be here dining on mastadons.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14775&highlight=kenosha

no_nomen
December 10th, 2003, 08:21 PM
Ahhhh.. the good ol' Zundelsite, yea he has LOTS of credibility...
HenryHE Thank you Sir,

You just might be right. Holocaust Revisionists don't have a lot of credibility.
Perhaps this post would be better with the Z URLs omited. What do you think?

Is it better now?
_______________________


WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE

- AND WHY WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE


We must ask WHY would the Good Christian
American, English and other people fight and die to
destroy the jews greatest enemy.

Tens of Millions of Aryans died to save the jewish Money Powers!

Guns, tanks, and bombs were the principal weapons of World
War II, but there were other, more subtle forms of warfare as
well. Words, posters, and films waged a constant battle for
the hearts and minds of the American citizenry just as surely
as military weapons engaged the enemy.
The exhibition is in two parts:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/powers_of_persuasion_intro.html

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/united_we_win/images_html/images/private_joe_louis_says.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/express2.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/britain.htm
Website Berlin: Historical events 1933-1945
http://www.ety.com/berlin/

THE DAY THE HATE FOR ALL MANKIND CAME
DOWN FROM MOUNT SINAI
Friday March 24, 1933

Do any doubt that these claims are authentic?

Then WHY in the world would a Good Christian Pastor travel all
over England and America trying get Christians and others to
Assassinate Adolf Hitler?

Direct quotes from christian sources,
____________
. Dietrich Bonhoeffer Home Page http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/

"Hitler must be assassinated for the sake of Christianity"
"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."

(The Plot To Assassinate Adolph Hitler) - "THE BONHOEFFER LEGACY"

"Bonhoeffer: Agent of Grace"

"As a young professor, Bonhoeffer adopted the rare position
of pacifism, based on his reading of the Sermon on the Mount."

"He wanted the ecumenical church to be an international
peacemaking community."

"Bonhoeffer confronted and repudiated racism in America
in 1930-31, and especially in the racial anti-Semitism of
the Third Reich."

"Churches and societies that transcend the divisiveness of
racism and nationalism reflect Bonhoeffer's spirit."

"The Jewish German pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer founded the
Confessing Church and encouraged the German conspirators
to overthrow Hitler and the Nazi regime."

"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."
__________________

THE CALL FOR WAR -- When Hitler had been soundly established,
Samuel Untermeyer, a New York Jewish lawyer, called for war on
Germany. This call was made through radio station WABC on
August 7, 1933. He had just returned from a world conference
of Jews at The Hague. In the broadcast, he said he was calling
for a "holy war", and described the Jews as "the aristocrats of the
world".

From that time the "Hate Germany" campaign was intensified
and made worldwide, with a special Jewish-organised
"National Conference of Jews and Christians" assisting!
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unt.htm

Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted
in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient
that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse
to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-
-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping....
we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people
to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very
existence depends." - ( C.B.S, August,7th, 1933 )

We should never forget the REAL reason TENS of MILLIONS of Aryans
were Murdered and WHO did the CRIME for the jewish Money Powers –

See: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/luge.jpg
The caption is: "Death to Lies." A strong Nazi fist grips a
snake with "Marxism" and "High Finance" on it.
National Socailist Poster 1930-1932 period.

"Hitler began his rule by breaking with the international bankers.
He believed that Germany could never be a sovereign and really
independent state so long as she had to live on borrowed money.
Instead of going to the bankers for money to buy what she had to
procure from abroad, she bartered (that is, swapped) some of her
surplus to obtain what she needed from the surplus of other nations -
- without debts being incurred on either side.

And with this approach Germany was soon crowding out all competitors.
Moreover, for the money required to finance her vast programs for a
complete regeneration of the life of the German people and for making
Germany the most powerful state in Europe, he simply issued what
money was needed, on the authority of the German government, and
based it not on gold, of which he had none, but on the productive
wealth of the land within German confines, combined with the
productivity inherent in German brains and German labor.

"And it proved sound. It worked. In less than ten years Germany
became easily the most powerful state in Europe. It worked so
magically and magnificently that it sounded the death knell of the
entire Jewish money system. World Jewry knew that they had to
destroy Hitler's system, by whatever means might prove necessary,
or their own [system] would necessarily die.

And if it died, with it must die their dream and their hope of making
themselves masters of the world. The primary issue over which World
War II was fought was to determine which money system was to
survive. At bottom it was not a war between Germany and the so-
called allies. Primarily it was war to the death between Germany and
the International Money Power."

William Gayley Simpson, 'Which Way Western Man' (p.642)
Available from Natational Vangard Books

.

HenryHaysExecutioner
December 10th, 2003, 08:53 PM
HenryHE Thank you Sir,

You just might be right. Holocaust Revisionists don't have a lot of credibility.
Perhaps this post would be better with the Z URLs omited. What do you think?

Is it better now?
_______________________


WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE

- AND WHY WE’RE ON GOD’S SIDE


We must ask WHY would the Good Christian
American, English and other people fight and die to
destroy the jews greatest enemy.

Tens of Millions of Aryans died to save the jewish Money Powers!

Guns, tanks, and bombs were the principal weapons of World
War II, but there were other, more subtle forms of warfare as
well. Words, posters, and films waged a constant battle for
the hearts and minds of the American citizenry just as surely
as military weapons engaged the enemy.
The exhibition is in two parts:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/powers_of_persuasion_intro.html

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/united_we_win/images_html/images/private_joe_louis_says.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/express2.jpg

http://www.ety.com/berlin/britain.htm
Website Berlin: Historical events 1933-1945
http://www.ety.com/berlin/

THE DAY THE HATE FOR ALL MANKIND CAME
DOWN FROM MOUNT SINAI
Friday March 24, 1933

Do any doubt that these claims are authentic?

Then WHY in the world would a Good Christian Pastor travel all
over England and America trying get Christians and others to
Assassinate Adolf Hitler?

Direct quotes from christian sources,
____________
. Dietrich Bonhoeffer Home Page http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/

"Hitler must be assassinated for the sake of Christianity"
"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."

(The Plot To Assassinate Adolph Hitler) - "THE BONHOEFFER LEGACY"

"Bonhoeffer: Agent of Grace"

"As a young professor, Bonhoeffer adopted the rare position
of pacifism, based on his reading of the Sermon on the Mount."

"He wanted the ecumenical church to be an international
peacemaking community."

"Bonhoeffer confronted and repudiated racism in America
in 1930-31, and especially in the racial anti-Semitism of
the Third Reich."

"Churches and societies that transcend the divisiveness of
racism and nationalism reflect Bonhoeffer's spirit."

"The Jewish German pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer founded the
Confessing Church and encouraged the German conspirators
to overthrow Hitler and the Nazi regime."

"He boldly advocated that Hitler must be assassinated
for the sake of Christianity and mankind."
__________________

THE CALL FOR WAR -- When Hitler had been soundly established,
Samuel Untermeyer, a New York Jewish lawyer, called for war on
Germany. This call was made through radio station WABC on
August 7, 1933. He had just returned from a world conference
of Jews at The Hague. In the broadcast, he said he was calling
for a "holy war", and described the Jews as "the aristocrats of the
world".

From that time the "Hate Germany" campaign was intensified
and made worldwide, with a special Jewish-organised
"National Conference of Jews and Christians" assisting!
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unt.htm

Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted
in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient
that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse
to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-
-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping....
we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people
to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very
existence depends." - ( C.B.S, August,7th, 1933 )

We should never forget the REAL reason TENS of MILLIONS of Aryans
were Murdered and WHO did the CRIME for the jewish Money Powers –

See: http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/luge.jpg
The caption is: "Death to Lies." A strong Nazi fist grips a
snake with "Marxism" and "High Finance" on it.
National Socailist Poster 1930-1932 period.

"Hitler began his rule by breaking with the international bankers.
He believed that Germany could never be a sovereign and really
independent state so long as she had to live on borrowed money.
Instead of going to the bankers for money to buy what she had to
procure from abroad, she bartered (that is, swapped) some of her
surplus to obtain what she needed from the surplus of other nations -
- without debts being incurred on either side.

And with this approach Germany was soon crowding out all competitors.
Moreover, for the money required to finance her vast programs for a
complete regeneration of the life of the German people and for making
Germany the most powerful state in Europe, he simply issued what
money was needed, on the authority of the German government, and
based it not on gold, of which he had none, but on the productive
wealth of the land within German confines, combined with the
productivity inherent in German brains and German labor.

"And it proved sound. It worked. In less than ten years Germany
became easily the most powerful state in Europe. It worked so
magically and magnificently that it sounded the death knell of the
entire Jewish money system. World Jewry knew that they had to
destroy Hitler's system, by whatever means might prove necessary,
or their own [system] would necessarily die.

And if it died, with it must die their dream and their hope of making
themselves masters of the world. The primary issue over which World
War II was fought was to determine which money system was to
survive. At bottom it was not a war between Germany and the so-
called allies. Primarily it was war to the death between Germany and
the International Money Power."

William Gayley Simpson, 'Which Way Western Man' (p.642)
Available from Natational Vangard Books

.


Well the way I see it you are trying to make two points here.
1) Germany was not the only one to use propaganda, the Allies had their fair share. On this point I agree 100%

2) That WWII was a Jewish plot. I don't agree with this. For example I have run across that newspaper headline before and after looking into it I have found that it was the announcement of an economic boycott by Jews on Germany AFTER Germany began their campaign against Jews. I see nothing wrong with them organizing a boycott considering Hitler's professed hatred of them. I mean come on, if one of those Black Islamists who thinks whitey is the devil took over New York State and started doing the same crap to whites that Hitler was doing to Jews I think that we would boycott the state, don't you? I sure as hell would join such a boycott. I really think you have to be a Jewish Supremist to think that such a small group has so much control over so many people.

Gott
December 10th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Well the way I see it you are trying to make two points here.
1) Germany was not the only one to use propaganda, the Allies had their fair share. On this point I agree 100%

2) That WWII was a Jewish plot. I don't agree with this. For example I have run across that newspaper headline before and after looking into it I have found that it was the announcement of an economic boycott by Jews on Germany AFTER Germany began their campaign against Jews. I see nothing wrong with them organizing a boycott considering Hitler's professed hatred of them. I mean come on, if one of those Black Islamists who thinks whitey is the devil took over New York State and started doing the same crap to whites that Hitler was doing to Jews I think that we would boycott the state, don't you? I sure as hell would join such a boycott. I really think you have to be a Jewish Supremist to think that such a small group has so much control over so many people.


The German campaign against jews - and what, specifically was that in 1933? For instance, that the number of jews in German universities and the professons reflect the percentage of jews in the German poplation. 'the same crap to whites that Hitler was doing to jews' - what crap. I'd like some specifics please - and from the date of the newpaper story - early 1933.

And I suggest you look into who paid Winston Churchill's massive debts for him - the day after which Churchill declared 'I have always been a zionist'. And who were the key advisors around Franklin Roosevelt pushing for war. Oddly enough, they were all jews, these men.

no_nomen
December 10th, 2003, 09:39 PM
...you have to be a Jewish Supremist to think that
such a small group has so much control over so many people.
OH MY !

You don't really believe in conspiracy theories do you ?

.

no_nomen
December 10th, 2003, 11:35 PM
Gott Sir,

I thought you might find this of interest.

SIEGE !
..........

GERMANY MUST PERISH !


http://abbc.com/germany/perishg.jpg
For a free copy of the complete book go to:
http://www.codoh.com/germany/GERPERISH.HTML
http://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.html
http://abbc.com/germany/index.htm



Just by reading a very few paragraphs of the Jew

T. N. Kaufmans book we discover the deep-seated

Jewish Genocidal Hatred of the German Race.

...................................................................

GERMANY MUST PERISH!

"Germany Must Perish"
By the Jew Theodore N. Kaufman.
1941 - PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERIKA
SPECIAL NOTE TO READER

"This dynamic volume outlines a comprehensive Jewish plan
for the extinction of the German nation and the
total eradication (murder) from the earth, of all her people.
Also contained the possible territorial dissection
of Germany and the apportionment (theft) of her lands."

Ch. 1 - GERMANY MUST PERISH
Today's War is not a war against Adolf Hitler.
Nor is it a war against the Nazis.

It is a war of peoples against peoples; of civilized peoples [Jews] envisioning
Light, against uncivilized barbarians [Germans] who cherish Darkness.

Of the people of those nations who would surge forward hopefully into a
new and better phase of life, pitted against the peoples of a nation who
would travel backward enthusiastically into the dark ages. It is a
struggle between the [white] German nation and humanity [Jews].

This war is being waged by the German People. It is they who are
responsible. It is they who must be made to pay for the war.

For not only must there be no more German wars in fact; there must not
even remain the slightest possibility of one ever occurring.

This does not mean an armed mastery over Germany, or a peace with
political or territorial adjustment, or a hope based on a defeated and
repentant nation. Such settlements are not sufficiently conclusive
guarantees of no more German aggression.
This time Germany has forced a Total War upon the world.

As a result, she (the German People) must be prepared to pay a Total Penalty.
And there is one, And Only One, such total Penalty:

Germany (and all people of German descent)

must perish forever! - In fact --not in fancy!
.

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Fredrik Haerne
December 11th, 2003, 03:26 AM
']Poland, France, Russia, Belgium, Holland...how many other "white" countries did Nazi Germany want rule? Who was next? Britain? America?

It was Great Britain and France that attacked Germany, not the other way around. Germany mainly wanted control of German-speaking territories that had been stolen from her. When Germany was attacked, something Neville Chamberlain accredited to Jewish influence in Britain, the Germans had to take those countries where Britain could land an invasion army on the continent. Norway, for example, was scheduled for British invasion, but Germany found out about those plans.

Nazi Germany invaded France.

France declared war on Germany, while Germany pleaded for peace. French troops had launched unsuccessful raids into German territory for a year, while waiting for the British to assemble an invasion army from its colonies. Eventually the Germans had had enough of this treatment.

Germany only took the northern parts of France, where there were industries the Germans badly needed for their defense against Britain, and a strip of land in western France, the coast where the Brits could attack. They left south-eastern France in French hands, and the French State as it was called also kept control over the entire French empire, which was ten times larger than le Métropole, European France.

The courts, the police, the bureaucracy etc remained French in all occupied territories, except for the small territories on the German border which had been taken from Germany after WWI. Save for those parts, Elsass and Lothringen, all French territory would be returned to the French State when the British leaders ceased their attacks and agreed to peace. So extensive was French control over the occupied territory that German soldiers could be brought to trial and sentenced in French courts.

Similarly, the only parts of the Netherlands and Belgium that were actually incorporated were the small pieces of land that were originally German territory, and where Germans still lived. The rest of these countries were merely occupied for the duration of the war.

Meanwhile, the Jews ruling the Soviet Union had invaded eastern Poland, the Baltic states, and tried to invade Finland, without the Western Powers so much as raising their voices against it. Why, it was good for Jews to expand Soviet control, so speaking up against it would not be, shall we say, kosher. And so when the Soviet Union invaded Rumania, one of many East European countries allied with Germany, the Germans became convinced that the Jewish Bolsheviks would eventually attack Germany as well. The Bolsheviks had already tried that once, after the end of WWI -- their invasion was halted in Poland, and this little piece of history has been all but erased.

FadeTheButcher
December 11th, 2003, 10:36 AM
Germany mainly wanted control of German-speaking territories that had been stolen from her.

ROFL are you serious Fredrik?

Gott
December 11th, 2003, 01:41 PM
Bravo Fredrik!

Craig Smith
December 11th, 2003, 03:31 PM
Germany had a legitimate claim to those lands. WWI was one of the greatest defeats of white people of all time.

Non-whites and Antis aren't the problem here. It's overzealous "White Nationalists" who accomplish nothing.

Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 04:32 AM
ROFL are you serious Fredrik?

"Are you serious," such an excellent argument; I am awed at your ability to back up what you say with facts and logic.

We already know that you hate Scandinavia and Germany. Are you White at all, one wonders? I have yet to see you do much else than slander White history, and back it up with distorted interpretations of Jew-published literature. Tell us, why this need to attack Northern Europe every chance you get? Why the need to attack all countries that have resisted Christianity in the past? Your fanatic urge to do that at every turn seems less than White, to say the least.