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Antiochus Epiphanes
May 13th, 2005, 12:50 PM
here is an article about a new proposed guest worker program. it combines aspects of earlier amnesties, with aspects of an old guest worker program, which used to be called the bracero program. I dont think they mentioned that. mexicans didnt like the bracero program, and those that know about it talk badly of it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/jointbillwouldrevampimmigrantworkerrules
anyhow, read the article and perhaps you would like to discuss. also discuss how would a protest party like WFP take advantage of the occasion of such a legislative initiative to advance its agenda?
Alex Linder
May 15th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Frame it as paying Americans higher wages vs paying non-Americans slave wages. Americans won't do the job? If you pay them enough, they will. Is the government run in the interests of the people or of the plutocrats?
At this point, there's no reason to believe anybody who makes it here will ever be sent home.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 16th, 2005, 10:13 AM
There is a strange article in Foreign Affairs by one "ana arana" about Central American "supergangs" like MS-13 which she claims were created in part by the deportation of illegals who lived in the USA for a long time, belonged to gangs here, and then were collared and sent back. Once repatriated, they took up their crime there.
Sounds like fiction to me, but for what it's worth I'll mail this issue to you when I finish it.
About once a year I buy this publication of the CFR just to see what the globalist "party line" was. I think I was intrigued by this issue because it had had a story about "saving the IMF" and I wanted to try and read between the lines for why Wolfowitz had got the job.
Alex Linder
May 16th, 2005, 05:15 PM
These shitskins commit crimes and flee to Mexico. But there aren't just Mexicans coming here, there are plenty of guatematecos and salvadorans, plenty in DC and elsewhere. I've long believed that nobody has the slightest idea who's actually in this country. I go by what I see, not by what "experts" say, in this case.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 17th, 2005, 01:03 PM
plenty of "mara salvatruchas"-- "proud salvadoran trout"
Whirlwind
May 17th, 2005, 02:16 PM
I think a lot of that spic gang talk is meant to instill fear in the average citizen. Fear of aggressive spics. Which just happens to be the expression on most of their faces. Citizens will give them a wide berth. Which the spics will interpret as submission.
"Oh, now don't say anything to them Henry. They might be part of one of those gangs that are on the news."
Silence gives consent.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 18th, 2005, 11:01 AM
well, it's not just tv exagerrating their crime, they really are a crime problem in big cities. theft and sex crimes and obviously narcotics are all big mexinjun related problems.
retepb
May 25th, 2005, 11:53 AM
I think a lot of that spic gang talk is meant to instill fear in the average citizen. Fear of aggressive spics. Which just happens to be the expression on most of their faces. Citizens will give them a wide berth. Which the spics will interpret as submission.
"Oh, now don't say anything to them Henry. They might be part of one of those gangs that are on the news."
Silence gives consent.
if we take the war on druge $ and use that to put the army on the boders then we can take our country back no more wetbacks!
retepb
May 26th, 2005, 12:03 PM
here is an article about a new proposed guest worker program. it combines aspects of earlier amnesties, with aspects of an old guest worker program, which used to be called the bracero program. I dont think they mentioned that. mexicans didnt like the bracero program, and those that know about it talk badly of it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/jointbillwouldrevampimmigrantworkerrules
anyhow, read the article and perhaps you would like to discuss. also discuss how would a protest party like WFP take advantage of the occasion of such a legislative initiative to advance its agenda?
just looked at this article and I don't get something,what the govt. dosen't get about people breaking the law.I mean these people should not be here. if the 8 to 12 million law breakers weren't here thats 8-12 million americans that would be employed and paying into ss
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 31st, 2005, 03:02 PM
just looked at this article and I don't get something,what the govt. dosen't get about people breaking the law.I mean these people should not be here. if the 8 to 12 million law breakers weren't here thats 8-12 million americans that would be employed and paying into ss
well check your premises. you are functioning off the premise that the government is legitimate-- "by the people, for the people." it isnt. it's hijacked BY THE JEWS, and it's run FOR THE JEWS. Jews have shown how the capitalist management/ownership stratum can enrich themselves by selling out the nation to an influx of illegal immigrants-- read the Wall St Journal for a near-daily exposition of the "benefits of the free movement of labor--" and the management/ownership stratum has paid the government to play "hands off" to illegal immigrants.
read this if you havent already:
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html
John Q Public's short-term sop is that he gets to have a "Latina maid" to vacuum his house and whatever, mow his yard, or maybe play cheap janitor at his small business. Costs in terms of crime and uninsured health care costs are offloaded onto "the system." That goes back to the other thread I started about CCN-- "the tragedy of the commons" by Garret Hardin.
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