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Ossian
December 4th, 2003, 10:36 PM
My singular and most honorable Father's Father, who in JW1 was a "grunt," ie, a sergeant in the infantry, had long afterwards a German medal in his possession bearing those 3 words and told me, when I was very small, that their (our honorable--and dishonorably misled--infantrymens') standard retort was, "Big deal! We got gloves!"
Anyway, I want to call to your attention this most excellent article, if you have not yet seen it, writ large by none other than Gott Selbst! I wish I had written it myself.
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/lettersOct-Nov03/120403gottchristnjud.htm
no_nomen
December 5th, 2003, 12:56 AM
I want to call to your attention this most excellent article, if you have
not yet seen it, writ large by none other than Gott Selbst! I wish I had
written it myself.
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/lettersOct-Nov03/120403gottchristnjud.htm
Thanks Ossian,
Excellent piece!
I see that the XXXtians have already got a reply up on VNN.
Isn't it odd they would use the old "can't we all just get along" line? :confused:
Ah well, as Gabrielle said on the old VNN Forum:
The #1 enemy of white race is "people who deny that Jesus is God".
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/lettersOct-Nov03/120403ptsociology.htm
no_nomen
December 5th, 2003, 02:28 AM
That fucking broad is a kook.
You might want to save this!
It is not just gabby. I wish that were:
It is not revealed to the public but:
Christian Identity Preachers preach and
CI members/believers state clearly that
all non-CI, atheist, non-believing White
Nationalists are their enemies, that the
National Alliance (NA is, for now, covertly
courting CI) and the WCOTC etc are allied
with the Jews, and that all non-CIs
and atheists must be converted or killed,
just like their Bible 'Law' tells them to.
----Above written by a Former CI man ----
As Gabrielle (CI) said in the VNN Forum:
The #1 enemy of white people = People who deny Christ is God.
He should be stoned to death for his blasphemy in the thread titled 'Christianity/Religion - a philosophy of fraud' -
"If I had my way - you would be stoned to death for what you said."
-Gabrielle
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Also from VNN Forum:
Jamescreate - Member - Registered: Jul 2003
Greetings Saxon! Saxon wrote:
"Since your an ex C.I person I would like to know what the C.I crowd really say and think about fellow racist whites who are pagans or just plain don't buy there bs message? "
James writes:
Hello Saxon. Since I also was a former Identite I know how the CI people feel about other Racialist who do not believe in CHristianity. In fact that was one of the main reasons I left. I saw it destructiveness and divisiveness and did not want to be a part of that any more. But here is an article from an Identite pastor.
http://www.theonomy.org/What%20Do%2...n%20Atheist.htm
"The WCOTC is at best a "spiritual" Jewish organization for it embodies the spirit of anti-Christ."
(just because we do not believe in the jewish god we are a spiritual jewish organization? yeah that makes sense)
" Scripture reveals that the WCOTC is bad for the White race because it would destroy the race that they contend they are trying to save. How any Christian Nationalist could give lip service to one of the enemies of Christ is beyond belief."
( I would like to know what scripture this pastor is talking about? And how is Creativity going to destroy White people by exposing the jewish religion for what it is? A fraud.
"We must rid ourselves of the diabolical Jewish myths such as are promoted by the WCOTC or we will be assured of defeat."
(Jewish myths? What myths is he refering too?)
Now here is the threat from the CI pastor!
"The Bible is also very clear about those who would seek to turn our people away from Yahweh and His Law."
"'Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from Yahweh thy God, "'
There you have it. Those who are speaking their minds about the Christian god and their disagreements with it should be stoned to death. And note the command from the jewish god that "thou shalt surely kill him" James Brown Jr. is using these verses to promote the killing of fellow White Racialist.
"If he does not repent I pray that Yahweh would close the mouths of all those who speak falsely against the Kingdom of Yahshua."
Here is basically another threat. Here the pastor said that he prays that those who "speak falsely" (what ever that means) against his so called religion will be killed or in other words, that Yahweh himself would do them in.
This is just your normal average type of mentality of the Identite. Also note that this James Brown Jr does not know what in the hell he is talking about.
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Posted by Oskorei
And how does all this fit into the Identity stuff, where, no matter what I say,
my brother-in-law tells me that white people are the "true house of israel" because they came up from the area of the Caspian Sea also, and went north
to the UK, etc.
He even says Odin is just one of the members of the House of Israel, and
therefore I am stupid to believe in Odin and be and Odinist because Odin
was just one of the House of Israel guys who believed in God, Jesus, all that.
No matter WHAT I say, to him, I'm wrong unless I just believe what he believes.
.
Draco
December 5th, 2003, 11:30 AM
My sentiments on the rubbish that is CI has not changed. Theyre nothing. All 18 of them sit in the woods, play army(with modified pistol belts to accomodate their pot-bellies) and praise that they are the true jews or whatever and plot various violent fantasies, like Gabbies desire for a "stoning"-a typical Christian mental defect, ole Gabby is.
While Gott actually wrote his piece, and it was a good read, this Christian just pasted a bunch of links. Lazy lazy lazy. And the Christians stolen writing still sucked.
Ossian
December 5th, 2003, 01:29 PM
I read that 'rebuttal' and although I certainly don't agree with most of its author's opinions, found it mildly interesting. But I really don't know and admit I don't know and am, at least, skeptical of those who don't admit they really don't know, and that their opinions and beliefs are just that. I like H.L. Mencken, who wrote: "The man who is full of belief is not a mere ass; he is actually ill. Worse, there is no cure."
More interesting to me than any particular argument is the remarkable propensity of us White people to argue endlessly and [more or less] intellectually about a whole lot of nothing... nothing, that is, that has, anyhow, any actual bearing on our life or lives today. "By their fruits shall ye know them" is sound advice, and for quite a while now the fruits of Christianity-at large (or to yield the benefit of the doubt, of what passes for Christianity) are rotten and have been stinking to heaven, very evidently. And that is the essential, only really important point, which P.T. completely ignores.
Maybe Christianity was once a very fine thing for us, a very different thing than what it seems to be today, and was subverted. Maybe it's like the introduction to F.P. Yockey's 'Imperium' states:
"It is enlightening to review the standard means whereby our masters combat positive ideas and movements. There is a pattern in such tactics which constructive forces will do well to study.
The first tactic is suppression and determined non-recognition of the rebel and his works. The press will unanimously give the well known "silent treatment." Even at this early stage, if the movement gives promise of becoming significant, assassination is considered and carried out if possible. ....
The next tactic is the Smear through libel, distortion, misrepresentation and the sowing of confusion wherever possible. This may be a negative smear with the purpose of destroying the effectiveness of an enemy or a positive smear for the purpose of building a haze around the truth to enable a disintegrative movement to develop. .... The Smear is usually started as an underground whispering campaign that viciously builds up to an outright and overt campaign, with the "free press" called into play. The object is to isolate ... and discredit ....
The third tactic is infiltration into the movement and/or the building up of false leadership in order to sabotage the movement at the optimum time, meanwhile diverting patriot energies into harmless or controlled activities.
The fourth and final stage is called upon only as a last resort, after the movement or philosophy has become institutionalized and is immune to grosser tactics. This is to "interpret" it so as to bring it as closely as possible into conformity with approved patterns. (Characteristically, the philosophies of both Jesus Christ and Friedrich Nietzsche each have suffered this deadening interpretation.)
Two or more of the above maneuvers are usually used simultaneously. "
(end of excerpt)
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." --H.L. Mencken
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