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AntiKike
January 22nd, 2004, 07:20 AM
What ever happened to the Norwegian Varg Vikernes? Did he get a longer jail sentence for what he pulled or what?

Tom88
January 22nd, 2004, 07:55 AM
If memory serves, he broke out for the weekend, then got locked up again for a few more years... haha

-Tom


What ever happened to the Norwegian Varg Vikernes? Did he get a longer jail sentence for what he pulled or what?

barbiefucker
January 26th, 2004, 11:01 AM
He is pretty fucking dumb

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2004, 02:57 PM
I have the Burzum tribute Cd and have read about him. I dont really get it. He got pinched for arson-- burning an old stavekirch. This refers to the way they built the first churches in Scandanavia-- big logs set on their ends, to make really thin and tall steeples. I think they're a unique representation of an important moment in European history. Varg apparently thought burning one would be his way of advancing "heathenism."

I went to a stavekirche in Hopperstad, one the Sonne fjord, years ago, built around 1100, and I was amazed at the many pagan symbols integrated into this Christian church seamlessly. The face of Allfather Odin, the dragon motifs (Jormungand?) and the "celtic crosses" which are clear solar symbols, all came together in a way that suggested to me that the conversion of the peasants was probably less of an event than we imagine it to be years later.

It makes alot of sense if you consider that Christian myth incorporated solar worship symbols much present in Mithraism. Those pick up on the solar worship symbology in Asatro dont they?

With the benefit of hindsight WNs revile Christianity. It didnt look so bad to Olaf Bluetooth did it? Was he a "race traitor? for dumping one pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in for a different pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in?

What do you say Fred?

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 8th, 2004, 05:42 PM
Yea he was a bastard.

who varg or olaf? LOl

I say Olaf was just another White warlord like Charlemagne or Constantine looking for a justification to eradicate the opposition. zat so bad? You say: "might is right"... what are popes and kings but masterminds?

Ravenfjord
March 9th, 2004, 03:00 PM
His book (Vargsmal): http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/vargsmal.html or http://pinhead.host.am/text/phil/varg1.htm

Many free articles by Varg: http://www.angelfire.com/ab7/potion22/varg.html

Vargs book on Germanic Mythology: http://resistance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=578&osCsid=6f4bb2dbd2606d506e2a46f94041b961

His Organisation: http://www.heathenfront.org/nhf/ or http://www.heathenfront.org/index.php

Books on Vikerness et al: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0922915946/qid=1077922865/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-0457836-3940027

His other books (found here): http://www.heathenfront.org/sales/

His band: http://www.burzum.com/

Other sites on Varg: http://burzum.org/

Winter
March 10th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I have the Burzum tribute Cd and have read about him. I dont really get it. He got pinched for arson-- burning an old stavekirch. This refers to the way they built the first churches in Scandanavia-- big logs set on their ends, to make really thin and tall steeples. I think they're a unique representation of an important moment in European history. Varg apparently thought burning one would be his way of advancing "heathenism."

I went to a stavekirche in Hopperstad, one the Sonne fjord, years ago, built around 1100, and I was amazed at the many pagan symbols integrated into this Christian church seamlessly. The face of Allfather Odin, the dragon motifs (Jormungand?) and the "celtic crosses" which are clear solar symbols, all came together in a way that suggested to me that the conversion of the peasants was probably less of an event than we imagine it to be years later.

It makes alot of sense if you consider that Christian myth incorporated solar worship symbols much present in Mithraism. Those pick up on the solar worship symbology in Asatro dont they?

With the benefit of hindsight WNs revile Christianity. It didnt look so bad to Olaf Bluetooth did it? Was he a "race traitor? for dumping one pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in for a different pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in?

What do you say Fred?

He's a Jew for bringing back a bunch of Jewish Gods. He burnt the church for publicity, the guy is simply a lower class Jew.

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 13th, 2004, 02:49 AM
....If Olaf had of said give me all the power motherfuckers or I will kill ya then I could have more respect from him.

yes but he didnt care about your respect or anybody else's probably, he just wanted to rule and the legitimacy offered by Christianity probably helped neutralize his foes and pacify his subjects.

hypocrisy is the hobgoblin of little minds said emerson.

goidelicwarrior
May 14th, 2004, 09:42 AM
He's a Jew for bringing back a bunch of Jewish Gods. He burnt the church for publicity, the guy is simply a lower class Jew. a jew ? he pure Norwegian aryan.. something none of you can ever be.. :D

Ronald Anderson
May 14th, 2004, 03:14 PM
Varg Vikernes isn't a Jew.

Aryan Lord
May 16th, 2004, 11:35 AM
He's a Jew for bringing back a bunch of Jewish Gods. He burnt the church for publicity, the guy is simply a lower class Jew.


Once again VNN posters are reverting to their stereotype. Just because you disagree with someone that is no reason to label them a "Jew". One would expect that level of argument to be common place within the playground.

Georgie
May 16th, 2004, 03:23 PM
You gotta admit though, Varg is very talented and he made some great music.

Aryan Lord
May 21st, 2004, 01:46 PM
You gotta admit though, Varg is very talented and he made some great music.

I love Varg Vikernes.He is a great and talented artist and he is the epitome of Aryan warriorhood. Unlike many so called white nationalists he has balls.

Miskatonic
May 22nd, 2004, 12:36 AM
His earlier stuff is great, but then he declared the guitar to be a "nigger instrument" and started writing casio keyboard crap.

I don't really consider his killing of some commie peon to be anything remotely close to warrior like. Especially when he claimed self-defense but stabbed the guy a couple dozen times.

From what I can tell he seems to have a big ego and likes to jump from one ideological extreme to the next, whether it be satanism, NS or whatever. Who know's though, maybe I'm mistaken.

rockcat
May 29th, 2004, 12:44 PM
He's a Jew for bringing back a bunch of Jewish Gods. He burnt the church for publicity, the guy is simply a lower class Jew.

What a load of bollocks the bloke did time for church burning but his sentence is for murder. As for him being a Jew or a lower class Jew wheres the evidence .
Im sick of reading hes a Jew shes a jew Hitler was a Jew its just bullshit from someone whose got no arguement and resoets to pathetic name calling. And what the fuck are you on about bringing back a bunch of Jewish Gods are you refering to odin? If so your even more stupid than i thought

rockcat
May 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM
His earlier stuff is great, but then he declared the guitar to be a "nigger instrument" and started writing casio keyboard crap.

His earlier stuff was bollocks, okay try composing his later stuff on a casio keyboard and see how far you get

I don't really consider his killing of some commie peon to be anything remotely close to warrior like. Especially when he claimed self-defense but stabbed the guy a couple dozen times.

I dont think the guy he killed was a commie, just a satanist piece of shit and as far as im concerned one less satanist in the world should be a cause for celebration

From what I can tell he seems to have a big ego and likes to jump from one ideological extreme to the next, whether it be satanism, NS or whatever. Who know's though, maybe I'm mistaken.

He comes out with a lot of stuff i dont agree with also and even though i enjoy his recordings his written work sometimes leaves me cold so youve proberbly got a point there

Fredrik Haerne
May 30th, 2004, 08:49 AM
With the benefit of hindsight WNs revile Christianity. It didnt look so bad to Olaf Bluetooth did it? Was he a "race traitor? for dumping one pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in for a different pantheon of mythic gods he didnt believe in?

What do you say Fred?


There seem to have been four strong reasons for dumping the old gods:

1. Religion was a relaxed thing in the North back then. You didn't have any priests working full-time at increasing their power; religious ceremonies were handled by chieftains and jarls, who also had more important things to do. By contrast, Christianity had those priests, and they would see everyone converted or see them die in the process. (It is similar to when socialists took over universities in modern times: the conservative teachers were focusing on doing their job well, and didn't care much about ideology. By contrast, the socialists were determined to make fanatics out of their students, and didn't care if that hurt them by taking time away from more important things.)

2. Suddenly, the trade ports down south demanded that all who came to trade were Christians. The vikings didn't force anyone to believe in their religion the same way. So they switched to Christianity, for the sake of getting along.

3. The vikings never set out to convert anyone by the sword. Christianity did.

So we see here an example of the more aggressive belief destroying the less aggressive belief. History has repeated itself today, which is a strong argument against democracy.


No, the kings back then weren't race traitors. But that didn't matter much, since the universalism is right there in the Bible, unchangeable. Sooner or later someone will always come along to point it out, and the people around him will have to grudgingly acknowledge that he is right. I think it's fairly obvious, for example, that the abolitionists did have support for their anti-slavery stance in the Bible: we're all brothers in Christ, and you should turn the other cheek, etc. So when your slave rises against you, you should not stop him.

It is similar to when someone brings up a populist paragraph in a party's rulebook at an annual meeting, and noone can speak against him, even though they know that paragraph has been ignored by tacit agreement for years. (I have seen this.) Many Christians have ignored the universalist stuff, but alas, they cannot rewrite the Bible. Until Christians tell me they are prepared to write a new holy book, the problem remains unsolved.

Antiochus Epiphanes
June 3rd, 2004, 06:26 PM
right well the apostle said slaves obey your masters too right?

Bible is typical sacred literature. It gives suggestions about social life with plenty of wiggle room. You will always need a good brahmin caste to perform sacred functions and a good kshatriya caste to keep people in line and aliens out. everybody else is a merchant farmer or sudra-lumpenprole in the end.

In protestantism, "The Bible" is everything. That is why it is so dicked up now. The Catholics kept the Bible from the commoners, kept it in Latin not the vernacular, and "interpreted" it for them according to the orders of the princes of the Church who were the brahmin caste and in cooperation with the kshatriya/ hereditary nobility.

The Reformation and Luther's translation of the Bible and the German nobles getting uppity against the Emperor and the Cromwellian fanatics killing the King in England and bringing the Jews back in from Netherlands totally fucked that all up.

That's part of my view anyhow.

You know not all Christians were bad dudes even in the old stavekirch days. The Sagas were recorded by monks and people having received Christian education no? Snorri Sturluson?

Miskatonic
June 4th, 2004, 01:55 AM
The bibble is about as sacred as a used tampon.

I'll drink to that!