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New Order
June 5th, 2005, 07:37 PM
On this thread a poster said that a 4" knife saved the day for this Wigger, does anyone know what knife he used? Also any good recommendations on that size of blade?

5' 9" 150# Whigger fights off 11 niggers with a knife (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=19059)

Border Ruffian
June 6th, 2005, 12:58 AM
4" blade is a standard size and is considered pretty "safe", i'm told, as it's legal most places.

http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/missouri use the "state CCW info" bar at upper left to pick a state. Scroll down and find "knife carry law summary" section.

Kansas law is very strict about weapons of any kind: http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/kansas

Notice that a pocketknife with a blade of 4" or less is about the only thing you CAN carry.

The whigger wasn't charged with anything, so I'm assuming it was just a pocketknife. That would also explain why the niggers all got "slashed". Some articles refer to "stabbings" but whenever details are given of a particular nigger's injury, they describe him as being "slashed" so many inches or needing X number of stiches. Doesn't sound like anyone was actually properly *stabbed*, which like I said points to a pocketknife being used. Can't prove this but that's what it looks like. I guess you could stab ok with a good locking blade of the right shape. I've never been in a knife fight or seen one up close.

I carry a leatherman with a sharp-pointed 4" blade but it would be akward to fight with and I think you'd cut yourself if your palms were sweaty and you were trying to stab.

Antiochus Epiphanes
June 6th, 2005, 12:51 PM
When the blood starts to splatter sometimes people get cold feet and reconsider the advisability of engaging in violence. I have seen fistfights stop when somebody gets their nose broke, not because they are down and out, but because when they see their own blood they suddenly reconsider, go cold, get scared, whatever. Once or twice I have been bloodied pretty badly and I thought, Jesus, am I hurt? Same feeling if you get knocked silly. Getting hit really hard in the head can make you want to puke and I suppose it's not just a side-effect of the concussion but nature's way of reminding you, that getting hit in the head is a major no-no. But the concern usually gives way to euphoria when you know that you have survived a confrontation and are still in one piece. Maybe that is adrenaline, or maybe that is some sentiment, I dont know.

Interpret Bruce Lee movies in that manner: he sees his blood and he doesnt chicken out, he kicks it up a notch. Of course you have to keep a sense of reason. If you are bleeding from a severed artery you better get help and quick because bleeding to death can happen very quickly.

New Order
June 6th, 2005, 02:47 PM
The whigger wasn't charged with anything, so I'm assuming it was just a pocketknife. That would also explain why the niggers all got "slashed". Some articles refer to "stabbings" but whenever details are given of a particular nigger's injury, they describe him as being "slashed" so many inches or needing X number of stiches. Doesn't sound like anyone was actually properly *stabbed*, which like I said points to a pocketknife being used. Can't prove this but that's what it looks like. I guess you could stab ok with a good locking blade of the right shape. I've never been in a knife fight or seen one up close.

I carry a leatherman with a sharp-pointed 4" blade but it would be akward to fight with and I think you'd cut yourself if your palms were sweaty and you were trying to stab.

So on that point it would have been, it seems to me, easier to defend himself if he had been able to thrust as well as slash, and I suppose that is within the limitations of what he had---anyone in that area do they know what he actually used, that would help in the analysis.


When the blood starts to splatter sometimes people get cold feet and reconsider the advisability of engaging in violence.
I should think the more civilized a person is the more likely to react that way.

JesusFreak
June 7th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Most people are in reality killed by cheap junk, when it comes to blades. The blade is just a tool, it is the person who uses it that makes the difference.

Subrosa
June 7th, 2005, 03:27 PM
OK, once more,

Ever gone into a dojo with a buddy and "cleaned house" due to reliance of "martial artists" on katas and the like?

Why would a xtian be concerned about his knife getting stuck on a cell phone, zipper, snap or buckle en route to someone's vitals?

Finally, do you stand 5' 6" tall in your boots?


Doc, I did 2 sets of 8 snatches for each hand last night - with the 70.4 lb kettlebell - after 2 sets of 105 lb dumbell seated shoulder press - 5 reps each. That's a spicy meaty ball!

What's a snatch? I've been thinking about getting some kettlebells for my exercise room.

JesusFreak
June 7th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Despite the fact you keep getting me confused with Sean{doc}Martin, Kettlebell work is demanding I will give it that. A good full body workout with them is to use one in each hand and do a eightcount with a sqaut at the end, it beats hill sprinting. I have found gymnastic exercises to be the most demanding I have ever done. After being on the rings not too long, my strenght went up very high. Plus working on a planche, I found a seated shoulder press is just that, but a handstand push up without a wall takes and works alot more. With kettlebells/weights give a well round workout.




Doc, I did 2 sets of 8 snatches for each hand last night - with the 70.4 lb kettlebell - after 2 sets of 105 lb dumbell seated shoulder press - 5 reps each. That's a spicy meaty ball!

Subrosa
June 7th, 2005, 11:42 PM
These are kettlebell snatches,

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler8.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kettlebells.php?Name=Double+Kettlebell+Snatch

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kettlebells.php?Name=One-Arm+Kettlebell+Snatch

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kettlebells.htm

These are barbell snatches, one of the two Olympic lifts, the other being the Clean and Jerk, which is also performed with kettlebells.

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html

Ah okay, so it's olympic style lifts with kettlebells. Interesting. You are quite right about routine. Although I lift and Muai Thai, I change my lifting routine every 8 to 12 weeks, from straight lifting to supersetting to dropsets to volume training to whatever I fell like next. I'm just that way, I have to "cycle" though.

Wonder if you could bring kettlebells to the gym. Maybe I could accidently swing one at the nigger in the corner, the one with his arms around the blonde and get two for one? Interesting.

JesusFreak
June 8th, 2005, 08:28 AM
You can do handstand push ups without support now? You have really developed body control. Been doing the Crossfit workouts?

How many one finger pull ups can you do now?

I have found for the handstands one of the main keys is the core/abs to stabilize and control. I have been working towards levelers on the pull up ball, and attempting one arm chins.




Almost every kettlebell exercise is full body, that's the point of kettlebells. I think you underestimate the potential for things like overhead squats and snatches with Olympic bar or kettlebells to develop stability, balance, agility, speed, and functional strength, but you always did favor body weight exercise.

Yes, but doing the eightcount exercise, takes it to a high level. I have found I get the same benefits from gymnastic type work, and it has helped my kettlebell/weight ability. More then the other way around.



I think an Olympic lifter's workout would crush you; they've done the tests (vertical leap, 100, 200 m dash, etc.) that prove Olympic lifters are the best conditioned athletes. That's why I incorporate the complete triumvirate of Crossfit: Olympic lifting, body control/gymnastics, and sprinting. Kettlebells fits into the Olympic lifting category as it's dynamic weight lifting, not static weight training.

I do things like the seated shoulder press occasionally to test my progress. Routine is the enemy.

It was coach Sommer's articles on crossfit, that got me interested in the gymnastic exercises. I have read others who stated that just by doing body weight gymnastic exercises, there ability to lift heavy weight went thought the roof I now believe them. The rings alone force ever stabilizer muscle to fire. The Crossfit way of doing things is probably the best. My focus is and has been creating functional strength, and endurance for Martial science.

Subrosa
June 8th, 2005, 09:55 PM
There's a lot more than snatches and clean and jerks to kettlebells,

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kettlebells.htm

but they are arguably the core of it, certainly as far as the girevoy competitions are concerned.

http://www.girevoysport.ru/

http://www.kettlebell.co.uk/html/girevoy_sport.html

I bring my kettlebells, Kelso bar, and other equipment to the gym, not to mention my six month old. Anyone balks I tell them to go fuck themself.

Muay Thai, eh? I had a kid hold the pads for me recently, hopefully we''ll make it a habit. I haven't sparred in a long time.

Kettlebells are excellent for combat sports: they give a ballistic shock, like you've been hit (you'll see what I mean the first time you do a heavy snatch or C & J): they're actually a form of impact conditioning. Barbells and dumbells don't do that to anywhere near the same degree. And kettlebells don't slow you down...at all. I hadn't hit the focus mitts in many months, but I've been kettlebell training religiously. The same kid who held the Thai pads started with focus mitts, and I was wailing on them. Crisp as hell. Good snap to the punch. They also develop muscle endurance in a way that dumbells and barbells don't. I know because my stamina was good though I hadn't hit the pads in ages.

You sold me DH. I've got to get some kettlebells. I haven't been to my Muay Thai classes for a couple of months cause I've been so damn busy, but I do have a bag I kick and box at home when I can.

I think I'm just going to take private lessons from the owner of this MT gym, he's Dutch and he's pretty badass. The rest of the gym is mostly mud and it's small and I don't like mixing sweat with em, know what I mean?

It's a damn good workout though, hitting the pads and mitts. I love that stuff.

Steve B
June 8th, 2005, 10:10 PM
This may sound like a stupid question but can you modify regular weights and use them as kettlebells? The reason I ask is I have a 350 pound olympic weight set with bench/leg and fly in my garage that I haven't used in months. Got bored and lazy with them and would like to try something new to get me interested again.

Would a good piece of sturdy rope or something like it through the center of a 50 pound weight make a semi-kettlebell? The reason I ask is I hate to invest in a set of kettlebells that might wind up collecting dust after a few months.