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Aryan Lord
June 11th, 2005, 03:08 AM
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,942824,00.html
Whirlwind
June 11th, 2005, 10:41 AM
These mounds are just that, only they have collapsed. And in the case of England's Stonehenge, parts carried off. These are the fore-runners of castles. The structural remains found today are the support structure for a domed mound. No windows, so placement of doors in line with the sun would be most beneficial. The Mandan, or "white" indians used a communal mound. Lewis and Clark wintered there during their expedition. After the wooden roof timbers finally collapse, what is left? Concentric rings of support posts.
2,000 years from now archaeologists will dig up our remains and speculate that we worshipped pink flamingoes, because of widespread finds. Trying to find religious signifigance in all these artifacts is an attempt to condition you to want religion. Since it has OBVIOUSLY been with man for all time. Only it is not obvious, they have grossly misread the artifacts.
Aryan Lord
June 12th, 2005, 02:38 AM
These mounds are just that, only they have collapsed. And in the case of England's Stonehenge, parts carried off. These are the fore-runners of castles. The structural remains found today are the support structure for a domed mound. No windows, so placement of doors in line with the sun would be most beneficial. The Mandan, or "white" indians used a communal mound. Lewis and Clark wintered there during their expedition. After the wooden roof timbers finally collapse, what is left? Concentric rings of support posts.
2,000 years from now archaeologists will dig up our remains and speculate that we worshipped pink flamingoes, because of widespread finds. Trying to find religious signifigance in all these artifacts is an attempt to condition you to want religion. Since it has OBVIOUSLY been with man for all time. Only it is not obvious, they have grossly misread the artifacts.
I am not sure what direction you are taking with your argument.
Are you questioning the fact that northern Europe had its own and distinctive culture thousands of years ago?
Whirlwind
June 12th, 2005, 06:02 AM
No. Thankfully I posted my comments before the new thread about ancient civilization in Europe, though. As in the new thread, I suggested the locals used mounds as communal dwellings. They are not religious sites. Which was my main point. Archaeologists are wrong about Stonehenge and these other mounds. Not talking about burial mounds, but those that are found by discerning concentric rings.
Quite the contrary to disputing early civ. there. But when archaelogists misinterpret the artifacts, the story about them is wrong. We are being horribly misserved by these "scientists". And every new find is further twisted by trying to make it fit into a false assumption model.
Caves were the original dwellings. Only so many caves. To make a small cave or geologic feature more suitable, additions would be constructed. After the sites that could benefit from these improvements were all taken, the next logical step would be to use the skills learned in building cave additions to make stand-alone structures. These earliest structures would mimic caves. The enclosed communal mound is the logical step. The remains of these are currently described as religious sites. If so, where did the people who used them live? And in what type structure? Mud huts?
Once wood and stone working tools and methods were developed, these mounds were not constructed anymore. The skills were used to make fortified positions. Those leading to the building of castles.
That communal mounds were constructed in N.America, and IMO Europe, would be one more clue as to why there is a haplo"X' marker in N.America. And another clue that there was movement between those places earlier than is currently accepted. So when the archaelogists maintain the European mounds were religious sites, it confounds the two aforementioned notions. Thus castrating the real history of our people. Edgar Steele says he doesn't believe in coincidence, and neither do I.
albion
June 12th, 2005, 06:57 AM
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/image/0,1587,942698_6,00.jpg
The 3,600-year-old bronze Nebra disc was discovered just 25 kilometers away from Goseck in the wooded region of Nebra and is considered to be the oldest concrete representation of the cosmos. The 32-centimeter disc is decorated with gold leaf symbols that clearly represent the sun, moon and stars. A cluster of seven dots has been interpreted as the Pleiades constellation as it appeared 3,600 years ago. Schlosser believes the formations on the disc were based on previous astrological observations, which could possibly have been made at Goseck.
Whirlwind
June 12th, 2005, 01:46 PM
Nice artifact. The disc was found with two wrist guards, and two short swords(hello, gladius), indicating to me it was the ornamental centerpiece for a shield. Made of wood or hide long since gone. Notice the attachment holes around the edge? The damage done to the piece could easily have been done with a blow from a gladius. The whole assemblage was found in a stone-lined ring. This suggests some type of formality like a regimented combat arena. Perhaps an early form of conflict resolution, or reinactment of locally important battle. The pieces being buried, and forgotten, in "neutral" ground.
Easier to explain stars on a shield, than swords in an observatory.
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