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McKinley
July 10th, 2005, 03:29 PM
I Just walked into a truck stop in Virginia. There was this puerto-rican talking on a cell phone I told it to speak english. It said it was talking to its brother I said i do not give a shit speak english. The piece of shit just kept on blabbing I told him again same result but this time his white buddy said he is in the service and he is talking to his brother. I said I do not give a fuck he can atleast have some respect for us and speak english. The (white guy) said puerto-rico is a part of america. I said to him whatever you are a fucking traitor.
Not one god damned white person came to support me they looked at me as if i were the one in the wrong. I did see a few whites snickering in the back ground though but none came to my aid.
I go through this routine everyday same bullshit reasult. I believe it is to late that people just do not get it at all and will not come out of thier fog.
I see alot of people on the internet that claim to be white nationlist but in real life I am hard pressed to see any. I hope that if one of you see some white guy confronting a shit skin that you will go over and support him or her as I would and need.
I am fed up with having to walk away in discust because noone will stand by my side.
Every white nationalist needs to start standing up and speak out especiallly in your own community.
Excuse me if I am rambling but I am so pissed for the lack of support of defending our people in public.
The Barrenness
July 10th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Did you really expect anything different? I would assume, unfortunately, that many people, even if they agree with you, are not going to say anything to stand with you out of fear of being labeled a racist. And of course, that is only going to be reinforced when they see the white idiots who would confront you on what you said. And what an evil racist you are, indeed. telling someone to speak English in what is supposed to be an English speaking country. Imagine that. :rolleyes:
I am not a very confrontational(did I spell that right, Professor Hamilton? :D ) person, but telling someone to speak English is something I have done as well.
I go through this routine everyday same bullshit reasult.
If this is a type of thing you are doing often, it may be best to cool down a little. I know a lot of shit can get really annoying, but you don't want to possibly find yourself in a bad situation.
Invisible Umpire
July 10th, 2005, 04:40 PM
I Just walked into a truck stop in Virginia. There was this portirican talking on a cell phone I told it to speak english. It said it was talking to its brother I said i do not give a shit speak english. The piece of shit just kept on blabbing I told him again same result but this time his white buddy said he is in the service and he is talking to his brother. I said I do not give a fuck he can atleast have some respect for us and speak english. The (white guy) said portirico is a part of america. I said to him whatever you are a fucking traitor.
Not one god damned white person came to support me they looked at me as if i were the one in the wrong. I did see a few whites snickering in the back ground though but none came to my aid.
I go through this routine everyday same bullshit reasult. I believe it is to late that people just do not get it at all and will not come out of thier fog.
I see alot of people on the internet that claim to be white nationlist but in real life I am hard pressed to see any. I hope that if one of you see some white guy confronting a shit skin that you will go over and support him or her as I would and need.
I am fed up with having to walk away in discust because noone will stand by my side.
Every white nationalist needs to start standing up and speak out especiallly in your own community.
Excuse me if I am rambling but I am so pissed for the lack of support of defending our people in public.
Another exercise in futility. Well, at least you're getting enough exercise.
Personally, I would do just the opposite. I would encourage all muds to speak their mud-language and never use English. English belongs to White Europeans, it should not be used by muds. Let them use their own mud language, if they have any. Let the niggaz speak afrikanese, if they can, heh-heh. If you see an afreakan using our English language, you should ask them to kindly refrain from doing so, because English is the proper domain of Whites, not muds. Inform them that if they love their heritage so goddamn much, and hate Whitey so much, then they should use their own ancestral language, not Whitey's language. If each race uses its own language, then this will help identify borderline Whites and also help in the separation process. I would encourage all muds to be as nationalistic as we are and form their own separate nations using their own separate language. If a mud were to be caught using the English language among themselves, there would be severe penalties before extradition. I would only permit them to use English in responding to a White man's questions, but only after a White man has initiated the conversation.
McKinley
July 10th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Did you really expect anything different? I would assume, unfortunately, that many people, even if they agree with you, are not going to say anything to stand with you out of fear of being labeled a racist. And of course, that is only going to be reinforced when they see the white idiots who would confront you on what you said. And what an evil racist you are, indeed. telling someone to speak English in what is supposed to be an English speaking country. Imagine that. :rolleyes:
I am not a very confrontational(did I spell that right, Professor Hamilton? :D ) person, but telling someone to speak English is something I have done as well.
If this is a type of thing you are doing often, it may be best to cool down a little. I know a lot of shit can get really annoying, but you don't want to possibly find yourself in a bad situation.
We are already in a bad situation if we act like coward and not say something now it will get way worse. Backing down is what got this country screwed in the first place just by being a door mat.
The Barrenness
July 10th, 2005, 04:47 PM
We are already in a bad situation if we act like coward and not say something now it will get way worse. Backing down is what got this country screwed in the first place just by being a door mat.
I don't disagree, but there is a right time and place for these things. That is all I am trying to say. You don't want to find yourself in a situation with violent muds, because obviously as you must already know from your experiences the white people who may be around you are not going to do anything to help you out. And of course, you don't want to be in a situation where you could be charged with a "hate crime"
I also agree, somewhat, with Invisible Umpire. Maybe for the first time ever. :eek:
Mush
July 10th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Not one god damned white person came to support me
I wouldn't have supported you either. What possible use can come of that? It's just mindless aggression.
If this person was perhaps, the cashier, and you couldn't understand his English, you might have a point. But to harass a guy for no real reason, even if he is a non white- is just stupid.
What did you hope to accomplish here? A group of whites would rise up and say "Hey, he's right! That guy isn't speaking English on his cell phone! Let's get him!"
Your actions had absolutely no potential pay off. And the is one thing we must be, above all else, is effective. Starting trouble at a random Virginia truck stop doesn't qualify.
McKinley
July 10th, 2005, 06:19 PM
I wouldn't have supported you either. What possible use can come of that? It's just mindless aggression.
If this person was perhaps, the cashier, and you couldn't understand his English, you might have a point. But to harass a guy for no real reason, even if he is a non white- is just stupid.
What did you hope to accomplish here? A group of whites would rise up and say "Hey, he's right! That guy isn't speaking English on his cell phone! Let's get him!"
Your actions had absolutely no potential pay off. And the is one thing we must be, above all else, is effective. Starting trouble at a random Virginia truck stop doesn't qualify.
Ok we will just sit on our asses and do nothing. It seems to be working great so far.
Sean Martin
July 10th, 2005, 08:28 PM
You travel between Ky and Va, we may have crossed paths. I live in WV and am moving to Kentucky (Ashland) in a couple weeks. Look on the bright side there will be one more open racist in Kentucky.
You did mention about seeing people on the net but not in reality. Think about how many of us actually use our real names or locations. Not very many Internet people are open about their racism outside of cyberspace. I will say this if I ever see you at a truck stop acting like that I will be the first to walk up shake your hand and say “I’m with you brother”.
Re HG
Odd isn’t it that was the first thing I actually agreed with also.
I Just walked into a truck stop in Virginia. There was this puerto-rican talking on a cell phone I told it to speak english.
Derrick Beukeboom
July 10th, 2005, 10:09 PM
I can understand your frustrations burnjewburn...it is natural for healthy and strong people to want to stand up to invaders. And this is exactly what the many spics are - invaders.
100 years ago White Americans would have obviously done more than yell at a spic to speak English - but itz an understatment to say things have changed here.
It is now expected of you to bow down to the invaders and accept ethnic cleansing of our cities and neighborhoods by these mexican and spic invaders.
But I have some more bad newz - there are so many spics in this country now and even more on the way, it will make our nigger problem seem relatively minor.
Make no mistake about it, due to the jews and the weaknesses of the masses of Whites, the spics are the new #1 enemy just due to their sheer numbers.
And the spics are well aware of this strategy and their new found political and economic power.
I despise the spics even more so than the niggers because the niggers are just animals...they help us out by destroying themselves by well, just being themselves.
Spics though wish to go to 'war' with us and will not back down until they 'Reconquista' our country.
Consider yourselves forewarned.
That is why I have been saying that the immigrant issue has legs with the masses.
Immigrants are a good marketing strategy to focus on due to the economic and linguistic challenges they pose for us.
JohnAFlynn
July 11th, 2005, 02:06 AM
I wouldn't have supported you either. What possible use can come of that? It's just mindless aggression.
If this person was perhaps, the cashier, and you couldn't understand his English, you might have a point. But to harass a guy for no real reason, even if he is a non white- is just stupid.
What did you hope to accomplish here? A group of whites would rise up and say "Hey, he's right! That guy isn't speaking English on his cell phone! Let's get him!"
Your actions had absolutely no potential pay off. And the is one thing we must be, above all else, is effective. Starting trouble at a random Virginia truck stop doesn't qualify.
I have to agree. Who cares if some mud talks to a fellow mud on his mud cellphone in his mud language? It doesn't matter. Save the confrontation for when you see niggers hitting on White girls. Now, if the mud had attacked you, I and all true White people should come to your assistance. But don't start unneccessary fights that other Whites may feel compelled to help you out of.
McKinley
July 12th, 2005, 09:37 PM
I have to agree. Who cares if some mud talks to a fellow mud on his mud cellphone in his mud language? It doesn't matter. Save the confrontation for when you see niggers hitting on White girls. Now, if the mud had attacked you, I and all true White people should come to your assistance. But don't start unneccessary fights that other Whites may feel compelled to help you out of.
Know wonder america is turning into a color of brown. Noone has the balls to stand up for thier culture or heritage.
Most seem to be meek and let the turds walk all over themselves and other whites.
This "movement" is going nowhere if people do not have back bone.
Let us all just be touchy filly with the mud after all we would not want to be called those horrable names as racist, bigot and so on. Oh we mght break a finger nail if it goes to far.
ManAboveTime
July 12th, 2005, 10:40 PM
Know wonder america is turning into a color of brown. Noone has the balls to stand up for thier culture or heritage.
Most seem to be meek and let the turds walk all over themselves and other whites.
This "movement" is going nowhere if people do not have back bone.
Let us all just be touchy filly with the mud after all we would not want to be called those horrable names as racist, bigot and so on. Oh we mght break a finger nail if it goes to far.
If you're going to risk prison for many years, it better be for something that counts, not for calling a Nigger or Spic what he is.
Rounder
July 13th, 2005, 09:46 AM
I wrote a lengthy article entitled, "Cowardice is the White Man's Survival Strategy" coupla years ago. It's posted on main page at www.whitepatriotparty.com (http://www.whitepatriotparty.com). And since I expended a considerable number of brain cells composing it, yaw'll go read the freakin thing.
The Barrenness
July 13th, 2005, 01:19 PM
If you're going to risk prison for many years, it better be for something that counts, not for calling a Nigger or Spic what he is.
I agree. Of course it is not a good thing to be cowardly and let muds walk all over you,etc. But it is not a wise decision either to risk going to prison, getting killed or severely beaten for something that is not going to accomplish one thing. And going around randomly starting shit with any spic, nigger,etc you see accomplishes nothing. And you are certainly not going to come out of it looking, in any way, positive, to the average white person. If anything, witnessing something like this is just going to reinforce their ideas about "evil racists" picking on minorities.
Rounder
July 13th, 2005, 01:36 PM
I agree. Of course it is not a good thing to be cowardly and let muds walk all over you,etc. But it is not a wise decision either to risk going to prison, getting killed or severely beaten for something that is not going to accomplish one thing. And going around randomly starting shit with any spic, nigger,etc you see accomplishes nothing. And you are certainly not going to come out of it looking, in any way, positive, to the average white person. If anything, witnessing something like this is just going to reinforce their ideas about "evil racists" picking on minorities.
Bullshit !!!! That's the defeatist talk of cowards making self-serving excuses for their own cowardice, and spreading it to others.
It's pay-back time !!!
Herman van Houten
July 13th, 2005, 01:39 PM
What an article, mr. Miller. Some articles you read contain a gem, a few contain 2 or even more. This article has nothing but gems. I would like to quote one part:
Graham to Nixon; "Unless the Jewish stranglehold on the media is broken,
this country is going down the drain."
Nixon whispers in reply; "Oh yes. I agree. But we must never let anyone
know we know."
There is a world of insight into jew power over both the government and
the media in just those two short sentences. Use common sense. The
commander-in-chief of the most powerful nation on earth and the most
prominent protestant in the world both agree that (1) The Jews control
the media, and are using that control to drag America "down the drain",
and (2) The U.S. president can not even inform the U.S. congress or the
American people. In other words, the Jews are destroying our country but
the president of the U.S. and so-called leader of the free world was too
terrified of the Jews to even talk about it in public. If this doesn't
make your blood boil, than nothing ever will.
Just imagine both of those men naming the jew in 1973. In their case, their cowardice cost us a lot.
But I agree with HG in her example as well that often cowardice is better. In fact, if there had been more cowards in the USA in 1861, 1917 and 1941, our world would be a better place.
The Barrenness
July 13th, 2005, 01:43 PM
So, let me get this straight, you actually think it is a positive thing for people to walk up to any spic or nigger and with no provocation proceed to kick their ass,etc? Is this something you would suggest people do? Is it also a positive thing if they end up in prison for many years charged with a hate crime, that will be shown all over the jewsmedia? It would seem to me the Jews, that you are always bitching about, would love this.
odin
July 13th, 2005, 03:44 PM
So, let me get this straight, you actually think it is a positive thing for people to walk up to any spic or nigger and with no provocation proceed to kick their ass,etc? Is this something you would suggest people do? Is it also a positive thing if they end up in prison for many years charged with a hate crime, that will be shown all over the jewsmedia? It would seem to me the Jews, that you are always bitching about, would love this.Yeah, that would go over real good, folks. Start a fight with a spic at a truckstop. When you're on trial, and asked for the reason you started the fight, you respond "He was speaking spanish on his cell phone."
That scenario would attract absolutely no one to WN, but would definitely turn plenty of fence-sitters against us. Not to mention being the impetus for a bunch of new hate crime legislation and causing much sympathy for wetbacks.
Pick your fights, but make sure something worthwhile will come from it. And, no, being able to say "I fought a spic at a truckstop" while you're being ass-raped by niggers in prison is NOT worthwhile.
Defeatist? No, REALIST.
The Barrenness
July 13th, 2005, 04:13 PM
Start a fight with a spic at a truckstop. When you're on trial, and asked for the reason you started the fight, you respond "He was speaking spanish on his cell phone."
Yeah, you can either say that, or you could say you picked the fight just because you hate all of these damn wetbacks, and as Miller said, it is payback time!!! yes, that is sure to speak to white people, in fact the message would be so loud and clear that the Jews would have to make sure everyone heard all about it.lol :D
Herman van Houten
July 13th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Start a fight with a spic at a truckstop. When you're on trial, and asked for the reason you started the fight, you respond "He was speaking spanish on his cell phone."
:D The only one I'd imagine doing that is Martin Lindstedt.
McKinley
July 13th, 2005, 04:54 PM
I wrote a lengthy article entitled, "Cowardice is the White Man's Survival Strategy" coupla years ago. It's posted on main page at www.whitepatriotparty.com (http://www.whitepatriotparty.com). And since I expended a considerable number of brain cells composing it, yaw'll go read the freakin thing.
That was a great article agreed with every bit of it.
By the way I appreciate the support DOC.
ManAboveTime
July 13th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Bullshit !!!! That's the defeatist talk of cowards making self-serving excuses for their own cowardice, and spreading it to others.
It's pay-back time !!!
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=20649
Rounder
July 13th, 2005, 09:17 PM
So, let me get this straight, you actually think it is a positive thing for people to walk up to any spic or nigger and with no provocation proceed to kick their ass,etc? Is this something you would suggest people do? Is it also a positive thing if they end up in prison for many years charged with a hate crime, that will be shown all over the jewsmedia? It would seem to me the Jews, that you are always bitching about, would love this.
See if I've got this straight. The Justice Department reports almost 2 million violent assaults against White people yearly. And that's just the reported assaults. Therefore, in reality there must be at least 3 times that number. And this outrage has been going on since 1965 (or 45 years) when the jews turned loose and sic'ed the niggers on us.
And let's consider the nigger violence, abuse, and intimidation against White children for the past 4 decades or more. It's bound to number in the tens-of-millions.
Let's also consider the literally tens-of-millions of nigger rapes of White men and boys in jails and prisons since the GD kikes mandated racial integration. (not to mention nigger rapes of White women in jails in prisons).
Now then with all that in my mind, do you seriously think I'm going to condemn one single White man who whips a nigger or spic's ass at a truck stop ??? Are you freakin crazy ???
The Barrenness
July 13th, 2005, 09:20 PM
Now then with all that in my mind, do you seriously think I'm going to condemn one single White man who whips a nigger or spic's ass at a truck stop ??? Are you freakin crazy ???
I would not condemn them either, but I certainly wouldn't encourage it knowing damn well what will come of it for them.
Moz
July 13th, 2005, 09:22 PM
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=20649
I agree with everything you expressed in that reply. White men with wives and children to support owe it to their families to stay completely within ZOG's legal boundaries, lest they are inhuman enough to subject their kids to the trauma and suffering of growing up without a healthy loving White family.
As it is, the covert WN's making the rounds in the corporate environment have a big advantage over the out and out boots and bomber jacket clad skinheads who get drunk in bars shouting racial slurs as an excuse for taking action. That is doing shit for our movement. The right way is to climb the corporate ladder, raise your children right, amass wealth, gain power to a point where your words are listened to and make an impact. This is what Henry Ford did. The Jews must've been shitting themselves when he penned his book "The international Jew", for they knew he was too powerful and prominent to sweep under their media rug. And by the way, Henry Ford was a man of very little schooling, going no farther than middle school, but he was an educated man. And no one expected it when he came out in defense of Adolf Hitler and condemed the Jews for the war mongering parasites they were and still are.
The way for the family man is to stay underground until family obligations and financial self sufficiency are met, then drastic revolutionary measures can be entertained.
Rounder
July 13th, 2005, 10:01 PM
I would not condemn them either, but I certainly wouldn't encourage it knowing damn well what will come of it for them.
Shut up, you stupid kike-alike cowardly bitch. You're pleasing the slave-holding kikes, and the violent animal koons. Confine yourself to the op forum where you'll be warmly praised.
Rounder
July 13th, 2005, 10:12 PM
I agree with everything you expressed in that reply. White men with wives and children to support owe it to their families to stay completely within ZOG's legal boundaries, lest they are inhuman enough to subject their kids to the trauma and suffering of growing up without a healthy loving White family.
GLENN MILLER: In view of your support of TAA project, I'll go light on you. But your above rationale aids, abets, and pleases the GD kikes and koons. Those "healthy loving White families" have no future unless WNs free them from jewish slavery and genocide of their Race. And that freedom will not be gained without bloodshed.
As it is, the covert WN's making the rounds in the corporate environment have a big advantage over the out and out boots and bomber jacket clad skinheads who get drunk in bars shouting racial slurs as an excuse for taking action. That is doing shit for our movement. The right way is to climb the corporate ladder, raise your children right, amass wealth, gain power to a point where your words are listened to and make an impact. This is what Henry Ford did. The Jews must've been shitting themselves when he penned his book "The international Jew", for they knew he was too powerful and prominent to sweep under their media rug. And by the way, Henry Ford was a man of very little schooling, going no farther than middle school, but he was an educated man. And no one expected it when he came out in defense of Adolf Hitler and condemed the Jews for the war mongering parasites they were and still are.
The way for the family man is to stay underground until family obligations and financial self sufficiency are met, then drastic revolutionary measures can be entertained.
GLENN MILLER: Nice sounding bullshit. And feeble excuses. You're spreading do-nothing-but-talk defeatism. Think about it.
The Barrenness
July 13th, 2005, 10:18 PM
[QUOTE=Rounder]Shut up, you stupid kike-alike cowardly bitch.
LOL. I have now officially earned a spot in the kike-a-like crowd. Intrepid would be proud :D
You're pleasing the slave-holding kikes, and the violent animal koons. Confine yourself to the op forum where you'll be warmly praised
By suggesting that it is ok for white people to do stupid, pointless shit that might get them thrown in jail, who are you pleasing?
odin
July 13th, 2005, 10:43 PM
GLENN MILLER: Nice sounding bullshit. And feeble excuses. You're spreading do-nothing-but-talk defeatism. Think about it.Yeah, and we all see the great impact you've made on the world. Let's see...put on an army suit and walk down a street, turn informant and save your own ass...and in your twilight years (while collecting a ZOG pension) pass out leaflets. Yep, the jews just shiver in their yarmulkes whenever your name is mentioned. Glass houses, stones...
There is more than one way. You don't have the only solution.
ManAboveTime
July 13th, 2005, 10:49 PM
By suggesting that it is ok for white people to do stupid, pointless shit that might get them thrown in jail, who are you pleasing?
Ask him to answer my questions in this thread...
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=20649
...as to his claims he's engaged in "dozens" of "violent assaults" that are invariably felonious "hate crimes," and explain WHY he is not in prison.
Sean Martin
July 14th, 2005, 12:13 AM
Actually if he cleaned up the floor with the spic he would have probably spent an overnighter. Unlike popular thought Feds and Jews are not sitting around every corner wringing their hands waiting for a racist to break the law. We still have a lot of freedom.
Now this is assuming he would have been ignorant enough to stand around until the cops came. He was a state and a thousand miles away. If he simply got out of there the chances of him getting caught would be slim to none. Also consider this would the spic want to go to the cops in a strange country possibly redneck county? Would the cops if white rednecks be sympathetic to the spic? Would he even have his greencard?
Wow it amazes me how paranoid you people are no wonder we are not getting anywhere. Tell your real names and let people know you are not ashamed to be racist. Only when people see us set the standard will they know they can show their true feelings.
Granted a fight with a spic considering their numbers compared to ours wouldn’t be in our best interest. But he is one of ours and unless he does something to harm the white race we should be on his side. The Jews defend their pedophile brothers the least we could do would be to show support if a white person beat up a spic. I am not condoning it but I don’t want to leave a brother out in the cold either.
Yeah, that would go over real good, folks. Start a fight with a spic at a truckstop. When you're on trial, and asked for the reason you started the fight, you respond "He was speaking spanish on his cell phone."
If he got away with it perhaps it could. Whites could then see they could make a stand. They may even finally get up the nerve to run the beaners out of their town.
That scenario would attract absolutely no one to WN, but would definitely turn plenty of fence-sitters against us. Not to mention being the impetus for a bunch of new hate crime legislation and causing much sympathy for wetbacks.
Rounder
July 14th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Actually if he cleaned up the floor with the spic he would have probably spent an overnighter. Unlike popular thought Feds and Jews are not sitting around every corner wringing their hands waiting for a racist to break the law. We still have a lot of freedom.
Now this is assuming he would have been ignorant enough to stand around until the cops came. He was a state and a thousand miles away. If he simply got out of there the chances of him getting caught would be slim to none. Also consider this would the spic want to go to the cops in a strange country possibly redneck county? Would the cops if white rednecks be sympathetic to the spic? Would he even have his greencard?
Wow it amazes me how paranoid you people are no wonder we are not getting anywhere. Tell your real names and let people know you are not ashamed to be racist. Only when people see us set the standard will they know they can show their true feelings.
Granted a fight with a spic considering their numbers compared to ours wouldn’t be in our best interest. But he is one of ours and unless he does something to harm the white race we should be on his side. The Jews defend their pedophile brothers the least we could do would be to show support if a white person beat up a spic. I am not condoning it but I don’t want to leave a brother out in the cold either.
If he got away with it perhaps it could. Whites could then see they could make a stand. They may even finally get up the nerve to run the beaners out of their town.
Good post, Doc.
With all the millions of violent Black-on-White crimes against White people every year, we still have those Whites who worry about a few isolated cases of White-on-Black violence.
I can understand why the brainwashed lemmings worry, but I do not understand why alleged WNs, racialists, and the jew-wise do. Especially those on this forum. They're either idiots or saboteurs spreading defeatism, divisions, and demoralizations. And they're here to disrupt and to distract from VNN's activism projects. Therefore, kike-alikes. Simple as that.
Loyal VNN'ers beware.
Mush
July 14th, 2005, 10:43 AM
Only when people see us set the standard
What standard is being set here? Beating up some random darkie, then running away is supposed to set some "standard" for others to follow?
JohnAFlynn
July 14th, 2005, 12:26 PM
Know wonder america is turning into a color of brown. Noone has the balls to stand up for thier culture or heritage.
Most seem to be meek and let the turds walk all over themselves and other whites.
This "movement" is going nowhere if people do not have back bone.
Let us all just be touchy filly with the mud after all we would not want to be called those horrable names as racist, bigot and so on. Oh we mght break a finger nail if it goes to far.
That's a stupid interpretation of what I said. My point is, that until we get to point of actually having a revolution, it makes no sense to go around "confronting" every non-white you see about their cellphone usage. IT IS STUPID AND ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING! There is a) NO UPSIDE, and b) a huge downside if it becomes a physical confrontation and or LE gets involved. Brilliant idea, go around risking a criminal incident and/or personal injury in order to discourage others from speaking a foriegn language.
JohnAFlynn
July 14th, 2005, 12:28 PM
What an article, mr. Miller. Some articles you read contain a gem, a few contain 2 or even more. This article has nothing but gems. I would like to quote one part:
Just imagine both of those men naming the jew in 1973. In their case, their cowardice cost us a lot.
But I agree with HG in her example as well that often cowardice is better. In fact, if there had been more cowards in the USA in 1861, 1917 and 1941, our world would be a better place.
I don't think HG was praising cowardice. The point is that misplaced bravado is stupid and pointless, indeed possibly detrimental.
JohnAFlynn
July 14th, 2005, 12:33 PM
See if I've got this straight. The Justice Department reports almost 2 million violent assaults against White people yearly. And that's just the reported assaults. Therefore, in reality there must be at least 3 times that number. And this outrage has been going on since 1965 (or 45 years) when the jews turned loose and sic'ed the niggers on us.
And let's consider the nigger violence, abuse, and intimidation against White children for the past 4 decades or more. It's bound to number in the tens-of-millions.
Let's also consider the literally tens-of-millions of nigger rapes of White men and boys in jails and prisons since the GD kikes mandated racial integration. (not to mention nigger rapes of White women in jails in prisons).
Now then with all that in my mind, do you seriously think I'm going to condemn one single White man who whips a nigger or spic's ass at a truck stop ??? Are you freakin crazy ???
I think everyone's talking about two different things. I and HG and others are arguing that it is not advisable to pick fights with random non-whites over silly issues like speaking Spanish because there is no upside and only huge downside. Obviously, if someone were going around vigilante-style and wreaking vengeance on our enemies, I would not be upet about it. But until we're all ready to engage in full-scale revolution, there's no point in looking for trouble.
JohnAFlynn
July 14th, 2005, 12:58 PM
Shut up, you stupid kike-alike cowardly bitch. You're pleasing the slave-holding kikes, and the violent animal koons. Confine yourself to the op forum where you'll be warmly praised.
I don't know who pissed in your Cheerios Glenn, but it wasn't Hitler Goddess. I know this isn't the civil forum, but that's a little over the top even for the Main Forum, especially when it's directed to a White woman comrade who was simply DISAGREEING WITH YOU, civilly at that. HG, despite the rantings of a few like SMG, has proven to have a decent head on her shoulders and is certainly none of the things you call her in the quote above. If a newbie had reacted like that to HG's posts in this thread, I wouldn't have hesitated to throw them in the opp forum for a few days. Just think before throwing around such insults at good members.
JohnAFlynn
July 14th, 2005, 02:47 PM
Well, it now is the Civil Forum.
Intrepid
July 14th, 2005, 03:24 PM
LOL. I have now officially earned a spot in the kike-a-like crowd. Intrepid would be proud :D
Hardly. I've known these kike-a-like notions of yours, yet haven't voiced my premonitions on the subject, for some time. I'm certainly glad Mr. Miller is ever vigilant in combating your Jew-lovin' ways.
I see you've used your pull, and feminine wiles, to get rid of Mr. THam Outis, as well. Have you no shame, miss?
McKinley
July 14th, 2005, 03:25 PM
I think everyone's talking about two different things. I and HG and others are arguing that it is not advisable to pick fights with random non-whites over silly issues like speaking Spanish because there is no upside and only huge downside. Obviously, if someone were going around vigilante-style and wreaking vengeance on our enemies, I would not be upet about it. But until we're all ready to engage in full-scale revolution, there's no point in looking for trouble.
Just when will this full-scale revolution you are talking about happen? When you can not even have the courge to speak or stand up for your beliefs.
I have been hearing about this revolution for as many years as I can remember still nothing but a bunch of talk.
You are a lawyer right? Do you ever defend any whites that fight for our people like Mr. Edgar Steel has? You with your law degree have the oppertunity to do many things with the position you have or are you just making a bunch of money defending the lemmings and the other asorted scum? 14
The Barrenness
July 14th, 2005, 03:27 PM
If he got away with it perhaps it could. Whites could then see they could make a stand.
If I believed these things would possibly turn out like you say, I would agree, but there is a very real possibility that they would not get away with it, thought. And in all honesty, the only type of person that I could possibly see that would be motivated by seeing someone else do this and decide to "make a stand" themself would probably be some young kids who most likely wouldn't be mature enough to really think about, or know what they are doing and would be almost sure to get themselves in trouble.
HG, despite the rantings of a few like SMG, has proven to have a decent head on her shoulders and is certainly none of the things you call her in the quote above
thank you :)
I see you've used your pull, and feminine wiles, to get rid of Mr. THam Outis, as well. Have you no shame, miss?
I want him to come back. I liked having a shadow. And I was almost guaranteed a response to all of my posts. Now all I would need is for SMG to go away, I would be lost.
As for having no shame, of course, I do not. Would you think otherwise? After all understanding me in all my foulness is like seeing into the mind of the devil, herself. :D
McKinley
July 14th, 2005, 03:35 PM
If I believed these things would possibly turn out like you say, I would agree, but there is a very real possibility that they would not get away with it, thought. And in all honesty, the only type of person that I could possibly see that would be motivated by seeing someone else do this and decide to "make a stand" themself would probably be some young kids who most likely wouldn't be mature enough to really think about, or know what they are doing and would be almost sure to get themselves in trouble.
Most likely someone who is fed up with all the bullshkit.
I had to go and get finger printed back ground check the other day because my job. Some wet back looking thing took my paper work then a gook did the finger printing.
The Barrenness
July 14th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Most likely someone who is fed up with all the bullshkit.
Exactly why it is a bad idea. A person like this would most certainly just act totally irrational, and again this would accomplish what that would be positive?
McKinley
July 14th, 2005, 03:49 PM
Exactly why it is a bad idea. A person like this would most certainly just act totally irrational, and again this would accomplish what that would be positive?/
What is so positive about sitting on our butts doing nothing besides yapping?
I am not saying to go out and randomly beat the hell out of some shit skin. Just have some guts and stand up for yourselves and support other white patriots openly. Quit hidding behind a computer.
The Barrenness
July 14th, 2005, 04:06 PM
I am not saying to go out and randomly beat the hell out of some shit skin. Just have some guts and stand up for yourselves and support other white patriots openly.
Fine, then we can agree.
Aryan Lord
July 14th, 2005, 04:19 PM
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What is so positive about sitting on our butts doing nothing besides yapping?
I am not saying to go out and randomly beat the hell out of some shit skin. Just have some guts and stand up for yourselves and support other white patriots openly. Quit hidding behind a computer.
Behaving like a jerk in public will accomplish nothing.
Either rise up in revolt or stir up the masses on the Internet but behaving like a nut case in public is counter productive.
McKinley
July 14th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Behaving like a jerk in public will accomplish nothing.
Either rise up in revolt or stir up the masses on the Internet but behaving like a nut case in public is counter productive.
So we know where you stand. Just let them keep on walking all over you. Just for you won't offend the lemmings.
Sean Martin
July 14th, 2005, 04:34 PM
What is with all the hostility towards Glenn lately? I think many people misunderstand him; I have a similar background rugged, rural and racist. That is why we have the mutual respect even in strong disagreements. There was a time just a decade ago when white people used the dreaded N-word freely and you only saw a black once every six months. And then it was usually the same black or some out of state black stopping at the local McDonalds.
So people like us are disgusted when we see people wanting to be soft on non-whites. I enjoy both Miller’s and HG’s posts but I really don’t understand the anti-Miller sentiments as of late.
Yes there was a time not to long ago when we could be openly proud to be white. Many people may have grown up in urban areas but here in rural areas it was only with the invasion of rap music and white trash clothing that racism ceased to be cool. However I am noticing a lot of rebel flags as of late, and there are even people attempting to paint swastikas (granted they are backwards). Where I live there is a building with a rebel flag that covers the entire roof. Who knows if people set the standard and stand up for their race others may decide it is still cool to be white and proud. Again I am not advocating senseless violence but we shouldn’t be pushed around in our own country either.
:)
I don't know who ------ in your Cheerios Glenn, but it wasn't Hitler Goddess. I know this isn't the civil forum, but that's a little over the top even for the Main Forum, especially when it's directed to a White woman comrade who was simply DISAGREEING WITH YOU, civilly at that.
The Barrenness
July 14th, 2005, 04:35 PM
So we know where you stand. Just let them keep on walking all over you. Just for you won't offend the lemmings.
So recognizing that it is counter-productive to behave, as he said, like a nutcase in public is the same thing as letting them walk all over you? :confused:
Proud White Guy
July 14th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Know wonder america is turning into a color of brown. Noone has the balls to stand up for thier culture or heritage.
Most seem to be meek and let the turds walk all over themselves and other whites.
This "movement" is going nowhere if people do not have back bone.
Let us all just be touchy filly with the mud after all we would not want to be called those horrable names as racist, bigot and so on. Oh we mght break a finger nail if it goes to far.
I couldn't agree more. I always make it a point to say something, and I have discovered that, they themselves, are very chicken shit.
When confronted, they cower like rats to the corner of the room, and the ones that do talk back, do just that, talk.
99% of the time they will back down, and lettin them know your not gonna put up with their bullshit, gets em back in line.
You have to remember your dealing with a bunch of stupid morons, and that the only thing they really understamd is pain, so its pain on the menu.
Once they realize your willing to take em out to the woodshed, they get a lot more polite, anything less doesn't work.
Trying to reason with these idiots is a complete waste of time.
There is not substitute for a good punch in the mouth, but be creative about it.
My bro and I were in a Burger King about six months ago, and some smelly nigger was in line right behind us. Bro says this motherfuckers too close, I can smell him. He turned around and punched nigger boy in the jaw, dropping him to the floor.
The rest of the niggers in the place just stood there in shock. No one made a move. We got our Whoppa's sat down, and while we were eating, the cops came in to arrest my bro, and he said "he felt somebody was trying to pickpocket him, so he only did what was natural to him".
The cops let him go.
We ate our hamburgers in peace. We made it a point to sit next to a booth with 4 niggers in it, and they didn't dare say or do anything about it.
In other words, they acted like a bunch of pussy White boys.
I say confront em, and don't take any shit from them.
I think Rounder, or Millers Essay on the "Cowardly White Man" is a must read for all of you.
Whining here on the forum is interesting, and I have learned a lot, and find some of you very interesting and fascinating, but with that said, there are things you can do in your everyday lives that can and will make a difference.
Try this: When dealing with a reasonable person, be reasonable.
When dealing with an unreasonable person(muds), be unreasonable.
If they need a punch in the mouth, give em one.
Moz
July 14th, 2005, 09:52 PM
GLENN MILLER: In view of your support of TAA project, I'll go light on you. But your above rationale aids, abets, and pleases the GD kikes and koons. Those "healthy loving White families" have no future unless WNs free them from jewish slavery and genocide of their Race. And that freedom will not be gained without bloodshed.
Go ahead, lay it on me! Disregard my support for the TAA, I will continue to support all activism projects in whichever organizations, notwithstanding ideological disagreements I may have with those involved with said activisms. I have dedicated my life's purpose to securing a future for White women and children, and I'll be dammed if I impede that in any way by entertaining trivial internet feuds.
Now, in my humble opinion as a young man (I'm still in my teens), I believe that the actions you have abetted are not only nonsensical, but also selfish. A White young man should not invest the emotional energy and love to start a family only to abandon them and get thrown in a cage, all for the sake of beating up a worthless nigger. I would not be opposed to such action if the nigger provoked the ire of a White man by threatening his family. On the contrary, I'd have a hard time devising a justifiable torture method for said nigger. But to cheerlead someone into unprovoked acts of violence without any form of revolution or armed insurection being carried out, is completely stupid. I can certainly appreciate your tireless dedication, as I expressed in my short letter to you, but in this particular instance I can not agree with you. If I were to be thrown in a ZOG cage for the better part of my years, you can bet it won't be for randomly beating up some worthless nigger. No, I would make damn sure that before I was "taken down" and hauled away from my family, I'd "cleanse" my perimiter of as many filthy niggers and kikes as I could.
The Barrenness
July 14th, 2005, 10:00 PM
A White young man should not invest the emotional energy and love to start a family only to abandon them and get thrown in a cage, all for the sake of beating up a worthless nigger. I would not be opposed to such action if the nigger provoked the ire of a White man by threatening his family. On the contrary, I'd have a hard time devising a justifiable torture method for said nigger. But to cheerlead someone into unprovoked acts of violence without any form of revolution or armed insurection being carried out, is completely stupid.
Exactly. You are only in your teens? Amazing. you have more sense, and maturity then most people twice or three times your age. :)
Proud White Guy
July 14th, 2005, 10:19 PM
You have to remember, the monkeys your talking about are not human, and cannot comprehend the level of logic you are capable of, so a punch in the mouth works.
Trust me it works.
Be reasonable, with the reasonable, be unreasonable, with the unreasonable.
Whats the problem with that logic?
McKinley
July 15th, 2005, 02:12 AM
I couldn't agree more. I always make it a point to say something, and I have discovered that, they themselves, are very chicken shit.
When confronted, they cower like rats to the corner of the room, and the ones that do talk back, do just that, talk.
99% of the time they will back down, and lettin them know your not gonna put up with their bullshit, gets em back in line.
You have to remember your dealing with a bunch of stupid morons, and that the only thing they really understamd is pain, so its pain on the menu.
Once they realize your willing to take em out to the woodshed, they get a lot more polite, anything less doesn't work.
Trying to reason with these idiots is a complete waste of time.
There is not substitute for a good punch in the mouth, but be creative about it.
My bro and I were in a Burger King about six months ago, and some smelly nigger was in line right behind us. Bro says this motherfuckers too close, I can smell him. He turned around and punched nigger boy in the jaw, dropping him to the floor.
The rest of the niggers in the place just stood there in shock. No one made a move. We got our Whoppa's sat down, and while we were eating, the cops came in to arrest my bro, and he said "he felt somebody was trying to pickpocket him, so he only did what was natural to him".
The cops let him go.
We ate our hamburgers in peace. We made it a point to sit next to a booth with 4 niggers in it, and they didn't dare say or do anything about it.
In other words, they acted like a bunch of pussy White boys.
I say confront em, and don't take any shit from them.
I think Rounder, or Millers Essay on the "Cowardly White Man" is a must read for all of you.
Whining here on the forum is interesting, and I have learned a lot, and find some of you very interesting and fascinating, but with that said, there are things you can do in your everyday lives that can and will make a difference.
Try this: When dealing with a reasonable person, be reasonable.
When dealing with an unreasonable person(muds), be unreasonable.
If they need a punch in the mouth, give em one.
Perfictly Said
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Go ahead, lay it on me! Disregard my support for the TAA, I will continue to support all activism projects in whichever organizations, notwithstanding ideological disagreements I may have with those involved with said activisms. I have dedicated my life's purpose to securing a future for White women and children, and I'll be dammed if I impede that in any way by entertaining trivial internet feuds.
Now, in my humble opinion as a young man (I'm still in my teens), I believe that the actions you have abetted are not only nonsensical, but also selfish. A White young man should not invest the emotional energy and love to start a family only to abandon them and get thrown in a cage, all for the sake of beating up a worthless nigger. I would not be opposed to such action if the nigger provoked the ire of a White man by threatening his family. On the contrary, I'd have a hard time devising a justifiable torture method for said nigger. But to cheerlead someone into unprovoked acts of violence without any form of revolution or armed insurection being carried out, is completely stupid. I can certainly appreciate your tireless dedication, as I expressed in my short letter to you, but in this particular instance I can not agree with you. If I were to be thrown in a ZOG cage for the better part of my years, you can bet it won't be for randomly beating up some worthless nigger. No, I would make damn sure that before I was "taken down" and hauled away from my family, I'd "cleanse" my perimiter of as many filthy niggers and kikes as I could.
No hard feelings Moz, over this difference of opinion. You've purchased 2 box fulls of TAAs, therefore I believe you are well intentioned, though misguided on the issue of White-on-Black violence.
White people have shed an ocean of blood at the hands of niggers these past 4 decades. Literally tens-of-millions brutally beaten for no reason other than their White skins. 90-plus percent of niggers hate our guts and applaud every one of those tens-of-millions of beatings. AND the millions of violent rapes of White women and girls. AND the hundreds of thousands of us murdered since 1965 when the jews sic'ed them on us.
With those undeniable and outrageous FACTS and STATISTICS in our minds, it is absurd and mindless for any of us to advise our strong, young men not to seek some justice in order to maintain their manliness, sanity, and Nature-Given right of revenge. And Whites who condemn them for it, should not be surprised when they are accused of being defenders/protectors of the GD niggers.
If, for example, I decide to go out and "bust up" a nigger. Who are you, or Odin, or Hitler Goddess, or ManAboveTime to tell me I'm wrong ?? Neither of you know whether my sister was raped by a gang of niggers; or whether my mother was mugged on the streets by niggers; or whether I or my brother or cousin had been raped repeatedly in prison, by niggers. And who are you to PUBICLY condemn me for "busting up a GD nigger" for my own honor, manhood, and sanity in view of all those tens-of-millions of violent assaults against my White Racial Family ???
All these reasonable sounding warnings to our young White men about White-on-Black violence, aids, abets, and gives comfort to the GD kikes and koons. Therefore, we should refrain from it.
Let Old Mother Nature have her way. Shall we ???
The Barrenness
July 15th, 2005, 02:06 PM
If, for example, I decide to go out and "bust up" a nigger. Who are you, or Odin, or Hitler Goddess, or ManAboveTime to tell me I'm wrong ?? Neither of you know whether my sister was raped by a gang of niggers; or whether my mother was mugged on the streets by niggers; or whether I or my brother or cousin had been raped repeatedly in prison, by niggers. And who are you to PUBICLY condemn me for "busting up a GD nigger" for my own honor, manhood, and sanity in view of all those tens-of-millions of violent assaults against my White Racial Family ???
I don't think anyone that you mention would tell you the act, itself, is wrong. What could be wrong is to assume that doing this is going to have any kind of positive outcome, that is all anyone is trying to say, I believe. And yes, there are plenty of people who have had to deal with nigger violence either directed at themselves or family members, friends,etc. and if someone who has had to deal with it feels the need to go out and "bust up" a nigger, again, the act is completely understandable,and more then justified, and no one, here, I am assuming would condemn anyone for that. But it is just an obvious fact to point out, for example that if your sister is raped by a nigger,etc and you, some time later decide to "bust up" any nigger you see walking down the street, the only thing that is going to come of that is you are going to most likely going to be going to prison.
And it is certainly not worth the negative outcome that would come from "busting up" a nigger or some other mud just because they are not speaking English on their cell phone or because you had to deal with them fingerprinting you for your job, as Burnjewburn, mentioned. These, and similar day-to-day annoyances are completely foolish reasons.
All these reasonable sounding warnings to our young White men about White-on-Black violence, aids, abets, and gives comfort to the GD kikes and koons. Therefore, we should refrain from it.
Again I would have to say if a white male decides to do the things some suggest here and get themselves in trouble, who does that get comfort to? And you just know they love when incidents like this occur so they can remind all of the lemmings just how evil it is when people pick on a poor, defenseless minority :rolleyes: And you also have to know that many people eat this crap right up and that keeps the whole "white guilt" thing alive.
Aryan Lord
July 15th, 2005, 02:35 PM
So we know where you stand. Just let them keep on walking all over you. Just for you won't offend the lemmings.
Sorry am I missing something? :confused:
So you feel that it advances the cause of white nationalism if we go up to complete strangers and verbally abuse them if we hear them speak a foreign language?
You have some serious issues!
Aryan Lord
July 15th, 2005, 02:40 PM
Shut up, you stupid kike-alike cowardly bitch. You're pleasing the slave-holding kikes, and the violent animal koons. Confine yourself to the op forum where you'll be warmly praised.
Rounder you are a public figure within the WN world and those unAryan remarks bring you disgrace.
With one post such as that you bring much harm to our cause. The public conception of white nationalism is negative enough without those kind of unedifying remarks.
The Barrenness
July 15th, 2005, 02:46 PM
Sorry am I missing something? :confused:
So you feel that it advances the cause of white nationalism if we go up to complete strangers and verbally abuse them if we hear them speak a foreign language?
You have some serious issues!
What I don't get is why some people here seem to be under the delusion that if they do something like this, white people, as brainwashed as they have been, are immediately going to identify with them. Is that what is going to happen, or are they just going to think that you are a bully?
As I mentioned in my first post in this thread I have done similar things a couple of times when I was younger, but as I grew older and matured I realized that this is not something that is going to reflect positively on me or anyone who does something similar.
Aryan Lord
July 15th, 2005, 03:07 PM
What I don't get is why some people here seem to be under the delusion that if they do something like this, white people, as brainwashed as they have been, are immediately going to identify with them. Is that what is going to happen, or are they just going to think that you are a bully?
As I mentioned in my first post in this thread I have done similar things a couple of times when I was younger, but as I grew older and matured I realized that this is not something that is going to reflect positively on me or anyone who does something similar.
I agree. Most of us have done idiotic things at time which are counter-productive to our cause. But at least we recognise it with hindsight. What disturbs me is that people are advocating such useless acts in full view of anyone who should be looking in on this forum who will consequently be turned off by our message.Furthermore I am disturbed by the reactions of some of the posters here who unjustly criticised your opinion with unAryan language.
odin
July 15th, 2005, 03:24 PM
If, for example, I decide to go out and "bust up" a nigger. Who are you, or Odin, or Hitler Goddess, or ManAboveTime to tell me I'm wrong ?? Neither of you know whether my sister was raped by a gang of niggers; or whether my mother was mugged on the streets by niggers; or whether I or my brother or cousin had been raped repeatedly in prison, by niggers. And who are you to PUBICLY condemn me for "busting up a GD nigger" for my own honor, manhood, and sanity in view of all those tens-of-millions of violent assaults against my White Racial Family ???What are you talking about, sir? This thread, and HG, MAT and my posts were in reference to, assaulting a puerto rican for speaking spanish on a cell phone in a truck stop. We simply said that's a good way to go to prison, but not a good way to promote WN.
How you made the leap to your mother being mugged, and your sister, brother and cousin being raped, by niggers is beyond me. As for your own experience with prison rape, I offer my sympathizes. It must have been horrible. However, none of us whom you identified by name (old habits die hard, eh?) ever "condemned" you for "busting up" niggers. Go ahead, have at 'em all you want. You are certainly mature enough to know the consequences of your actions, which is more than can be said of some younger WN's who might be overly influenced by your rhetoric.
The future of WN lies with the college educated infiltrating business and government, not prison. The street marches you so loudly advocate didn't work in the 60's, they didn't work in the 70's. I don't remember many occurring in the 80's or 90's, and they certainly will have no positive effect now.
With all due respect for your past and current activities to promote WN...you need to get out of the stone age, or get out of the way.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 03:36 PM
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What is so positive about sitting on our butts doing nothing besides yapping?
I am not saying to go out and randomly beat the hell out of some shit skin. Just have some guts and stand up for yourselves and support other white patriots openly. Quit hidding behind a computer.
Then we don't really disagree.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 03:41 PM
What is with all the hostility towards Glenn lately? I think many people misunderstand him; I have a similar background rugged, rural and racist. That is why we have the mutual respect even in strong disagreements. There was a time just a decade ago when white people used the dreaded N-word freely and you only saw a black once every six months. And then it was usually the same black or some out of state black stopping at the local McDonalds.
So people like us are disgusted when we see people wanting to be soft on non-whites. I enjoy both Miller’s and HG’s posts but I really don’t understand the anti-Miller sentiments as of late.
Yes there was a time not to long ago when we could be openly proud to be white. Many people may have grown up in urban areas but here in rural areas it was only with the invasion of rap music and white trash clothing that racism ceased to be cool. However I am noticing a lot of rebel flags as of late, and there are even people attempting to paint swastikas (granted they are backwards). Where I live there is a building with a rebel flag that covers the entire roof. Who knows if people set the standard and stand up for their race others may decide it is still cool to be white and proud. Again I am not advocating senseless violence but we shouldn’t be pushed around in our own country either.
:)
I don't think there's a new trend in "anti-Millerism" brewing, sean. I simply saw him spew forth a barrage of profane invective at HG, rather than the respectful disagreement you're so proud of, and I asked him to cool off. It's no big deal. Nobody's got it out for Glenn. We all know he's a good guy. Calm down.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 03:52 PM
I couldn't agree more. I always make it a point to say something, and I have discovered that, they themselves, are very chicken shit.
When confronted, they cower like rats to the corner of the room, and the ones that do talk back, do just that, talk.
99% of the time they will back down, and lettin them know your not gonna put up with their bullshit, gets em back in line.
You have to remember your dealing with a bunch of stupid morons, and that the only thing they really understamd is pain, so its pain on the menu.
Once they realize your willing to take em out to the woodshed, they get a lot more polite, anything less doesn't work.
Trying to reason with these idiots is a complete waste of time.
There is not substitute for a good punch in the mouth, but be creative about it.
My bro and I were in a Burger King about six months ago, and some smelly nigger was in line right behind us. Bro says this motherfuckers too close, I can smell him. He turned around and punched nigger boy in the jaw, dropping him to the floor.
The rest of the niggers in the place just stood there in shock. No one made a move. We got our Whoppa's sat down, and while we were eating, the cops came in to arrest my bro, and he said "he felt somebody was trying to pickpocket him, so he only did what was natural to him".
The cops let him go.
We ate our hamburgers in peace. We made it a point to sit next to a booth with 4 niggers in it, and they didn't dare say or do anything about it.
In other words, they acted like a bunch of pussy White boys.
I say confront em, and don't take any shit from them.
I think Rounder, or Millers Essay on the "Cowardly White Man" is a must read for all of you.
Whining here on the forum is interesting, and I have learned a lot, and find some of you very interesting and fascinating, but with that said, there are things you can do in your everyday lives that can and will make a difference.
Try this: When dealing with a reasonable person, be reasonable.
When dealing with an unreasonable person(muds), be unreasonable.
If they need a punch in the mouth, give em one.
That's a great story PWG, and when you put it that way, I can't really disagree. You're absolutely correct about boldness being the key though. These niggers want soft targets and won't risk anything on someone they perceive as strong. My main point is that it's inadvisable to pick unnecessary fights. It sounds like the nigger was infringing on your personal space in line, which is a bit different than a spic talking on his cell phone in a public place. I've done things like tell niggers to back up when they're too close to me in line, and I don't weaselly "ask" them, I just tell them "you're too close, back up." And I've never had one give lip about it, they just back up. Sometimes they look stunned, but they just back up. I also had a nigger accost me at night at a gas station asking for money. I was scared/surprised for about half a second, but then instinct took over, and I just moved toward him and told him to get the fuck out of here. The nigger looked like he saw a ghost and ran off. I don't think I'm particularly scary looking, but they really don't expect White people to stand up for themselves, and that simple act of standing up for yourself, scares the shit out of them, and can obviate the need for physical violence, at least in the short term.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 03:55 PM
No, I would make damn sure that before I was "taken down" and hauled away from my family, I'd "cleanse" my perimiter of as many filthy niggers and kikes as I could.
GREAT QUOTE! It's in the running for my next signature.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM
No hard feelings Moz, over this difference of opinion. You've purchased 2 box fulls of TAAs, therefore I believe you are well intentioned, though misguided on the issue of White-on-Black violence.
White people have shed an ocean of blood at the hands of niggers these past 4 decades. Literally tens-of-millions brutally beaten for no reason other than their White skins. 90-plus percent of niggers hate our guts and applaud every one of those tens-of-millions of beatings. AND the millions of violent rapes of White women and girls. AND the hundreds of thousands of us murdered since 1965 when the jews sic'ed them on us.
With those undeniable and outrageous FACTS and STATISTICS in our minds, it is absurd and mindless for any of us to advise our strong, young men not to seek some justice in order to maintain their manliness, sanity, and Nature-Given right of revenge. And Whites who condemn them for it, should not be surprised when they are accused of being defenders/protectors of the GD niggers.
If, for example, I decide to go out and "bust up" a nigger. Who are you, or Odin, or Hitler Goddess, or ManAboveTime to tell me I'm wrong ?? Neither of you know whether my sister was raped by a gang of niggers; or whether my mother was mugged on the streets by niggers; or whether I or my brother or cousin had been raped repeatedly in prison, by niggers. And who are you to PUBICLY condemn me for "busting up a GD nigger" for my own honor, manhood, and sanity in view of all those tens-of-millions of violent assaults against my White Racial Family ???
All these reasonable sounding warnings to our young White men about White-on-Black violence, aids, abets, and gives comfort to the GD kikes and koons. Therefore, we should refrain from it.
Let Old Mother Nature have her way. Shall we ???
OK, well enough said, but letz all agree not to advocate illegal activities either. You see it's very important that we NOT AFFIRMATIVELY ADVOCATE IT. Whatever happens happens, and we can't help it, but we don't have to go on record ADVOCATING IT. The less said the better.
JohnAFlynn
July 15th, 2005, 04:00 PM
I don't think anyone that you mention would tell you the act, itself, is wrong. What could be wrong is to assume that doing this is going to have any kind of positive outcome, that is all anyone is trying to say, I believe. And yes, there are plenty of people who have had to deal with nigger violence either directed at themselves or family members, friends,etc. and if someone who has had to deal with it feels the need to go out and "bust up" a nigger, again, the act is completely understandable,and more then justified, and no one, here, I am assuming would condemn anyone for that. But it is just an obvious fact to point out, for example that if your sister is raped by a nigger,etc and you, some time later decide to "bust up" any nigger you see walking down the street, the only thing that is going to come of that is you are going to most likely going to be going to prison.
And it is certainly not worth the negative outcome that would come from "busting up" a nigger or some other mud just because they are not speaking English on their cell phone or because you had to deal with them fingerprinting you for your job, as Burnjewburn, mentioned. These, and similar day-to-day annoyances are completely foolish reasons.
Again I would have to say if a white male decides to do the things some suggest here and get themselves in trouble, who does that get comfort to? And you just know they love when incidents like this occur so they can remind all of the lemmings just how evil it is when people pick on a poor, defenseless minority :rolleyes: And you also have to know that many people eat this crap right up and that keeps the whole "white guilt" thing alive.
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Hitler Goddess again."
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 06:40 PM
What are you talking about, sir? This thread, and HG, MAT and my posts were in reference to, assaulting a puerto rican for speaking spanish on a cell phone in a truck stop. We simply said that's a good way to go to prison, but not a good way to promote WN.
GLENN MILLER: But Puerto Ricans ARE niggers. And I wish strong, young White men would not only bust them all upside their kinky burr heads (whether they're talking spanish on cell phones, or singing "Kill Whitey" rap songs, or just standing around selling Crack), I wish White men would round them all up, give them a watermellon and a bottle of Thunderbird wine as they walked up the gangplanks, and shipped them all back to Africa, thus freeing them from the White oppression they've whined and belly-ached about for 400 years. And I ain't gonna tell White men they might go to prison for doing so.
How you made the leap to your mother being mugged, and your sister, brother and cousin being raped, by niggers is beyond me. As for your own experience with prison rape, I offer my sympathizes. It must have been horrible.
GLENN MILLER: You're lying by deliberately taking my statements out of context. Why ?? I said no such things.
However, none of us whom you identified by name (old habits die hard, eh?) ever "condemned" you for "busting up" niggers. Go ahead, have at 'em all you want. You are certainly mature enough to know the consequences of your actions, which is more than can be said of some younger WN's who might be overly influenced by your rhetoric.
GLENN MILLER: You don't give a hoot about "younger WN's" or White people in general. If you did, you'd contribute to VNN's activism projects. You've never contributed one dime or lifted one finger to help us. You're an anonymous, do-nothing, contribute-nothing punk whose "opinions" mean nothing to any clear thinking WN. Your credibility is zero.
The future of WN lies with the college educated infiltrating business and government, not prison. The street marches you so loudly advocate didn't work in the 60's, they didn't work in the 70's. I don't remember many occurring in the 80's or 90's, and they certainly will have no positive effect now.
GLENN MILLER: An anonymous do-nothing punk telling us where the future of WN lies. How hilarious. But by all means, go infiltrate business and government. But you'd stay an anonymous do-nothing punk even there - especially there. Your punkish ridicule of White men and women protesting publicly in the streets and in the faces of our enemies, is an insult to all ACTIVISM-minded VNN'ers, and to all serious WNs, everywhere.
With all due respect for your past and current activities to promote WN...you need to get out of the stone age, or get out of the way.
GLENN MILLER: Did you catch that, VNN'ers ??? He said "all due respect to Glenn Miller for my past and current activities to promote WN". Who among you believes he really means that, especially after reading his last sentence. He's not only a proven liar now, he's proven to be deceptive, dishonest, and disingenuine. Into the Norcal/Draco/Intrepid camp he slithers.
Sieg Heil !!!
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 07:11 PM
I don't think anyone that you mention would tell you the act, itself, is wrong. What could be wrong is to assume that doing this is going to have any kind of positive outcome, that is all anyone is trying to say, I believe. And yes, there are plenty of people who have had to deal with nigger violence either directed at themselves or family members, friends,etc. and if someone who has had to deal with it feels the need to go out and "bust up" a nigger, again, the act is completely understandable,and more then justified, and no one, here, I am assuming would condemn anyone for that. But it is just an obvious fact to point out, for example that if your sister is raped by a nigger,etc and you, some time later decide to "bust up" any nigger you see walking down the street, the only thing that is going to come of that is you are going to most likely going to be going to prison.
GLENN MILLER: This is the same contradictory insanity coming from turn-the-other-cheek soccermoms. You're warning White men that if their sister is raped by a "negro" and they later "bust up" a "negro" walking down the street, "the only thing that is going to come of that is White men going to prison." And that's precisely why I told you to shut up. You're discouraging White men from acting like MEN, and giving joy and encouragements to negro rapists and would-be negro rapists. So once again....SHUT UP !!! And which part of SHUT UP, don't you understand ???
And it is certainly not worth the negative outcome that would come from "busting up" a nigger or some other mud just because they are not speaking English on their cell phone or because you had to deal with them fingerprinting you for your job, as Burnjewburn, mentioned. These, and similar day-to-day annoyances are completely foolish reasons.
GLENN MILLER: There are NO foolish reasons for busting up our enemies. Can't you get it thru your thick skull that the "negroes" have already violented assaulted literally tens-of-millions of our people. And none of those "negroes" or any other "negroes" warned any "negroes" not to assault White people for foolish reasons. So why do you feel the need to warn White men not to repay the "negroes", in kind ???
Again I would have to say if a white male decides to do the things some suggest here and get themselves in trouble, who does that get comfort to?
GLENN MILLER: It gives comfort to the tens-of-millions of White victims of "negro" violent attacks. That's who.
And you just know they love when incidents like this occur so they can remind all of the lemmings just how evil it is when people pick on a poor, defenseless minority :rolleyes: And you also have to know that many people eat this crap right up and that keeps the whole "white guilt" thing alive.
GLENN MILLER: In other words, when we pay the "negroes" back for assaulting tens-of-millions of White men, women, and children, the lemmings might not like us, and the jews' media might throw more "white guilt" on the lemmings. Spoken like the classic, contented slave who opposes any and all active resistance to the on-going, one-sided, Black-on-White, world-wide, race war. You make me want to puke. So SHUT UP !!!
odin
July 15th, 2005, 07:21 PM
[QUOTE]GLENN MILLER: I wish strong, young White men would not only bust them all upside their kinky burr heads (whether they're talking spanish on cell phones, or singing "Kill Whitey" rap songs, or just standing around selling Crack), I wish White men would round them all up, give them a watermellon and a bottle of Thunderbird wine as they walked up the gangplanks, and shipped them all back to Africa, thus freeing them from the White oppression they've whined and belly-ached about for 400 years. And I ain't gonna tell White men they might go to prison for doing so. Yeah, those things would be nice, but it's not going to happen. And your mindless advocations only hurt the White cause.
GLENN MILLER: You're lying by deliberately taking my statements out of context. Why ?? I said no such things. Oh, didn't you write this?Neither of you know whether my sister was raped by a gang of niggers; or whether my mother was mugged on the streets by niggers; or whether I or my brother or cousin had been raped repeatedly in prison, by niggers. I lied about nothing. I merely stated that what you described sounded horrible, which it does.
GLENN MILLER: You don't give a hoot about "younger WN's" or White people in general. If you did, you'd contribute to VNN's activism projects. You've never contributed one dime or lifted one finger to help us. You're an anonymous, do-nothing, contribute-nothing punk whose "opinions" mean nothing to any clear thinking WN. Your credibility is zero.Obviously I care about the young ones more than you. That's why I don't want to see them rot in prison for following the ravings of a lunatic. No, I've never contributed to VNN's activism projects (i.e. your check book) because I see no demonstrable benefit to WN. TAA is not bad, but I choose not to send you my money. Boo Hoo. Oh, and your "opinion" of my credibility (or anything else for that matter) means nothing to me.
GLENN MILLER:Your punkish ridicule of White men and women protesting publicly in the streets and in the faces of our enemies, is an insult to all ACTIVISM-minded VNN'ers, and to all serious WNs, everywhere.God, you're an idiot.
GLENN MILLER: Did you catch that, VNN'ers ??? He said "all due respect to Glenn Miller for my past and current activities to promote WN". Who among you believes he really means that, especially after reading his last sentence. He's not only a proven liar now, he's proven to be deceptive, dishonest, and disingenuine. Actually, I did mean it. The last line was meant as a joke that I thought you would understand from your army days.
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Sorry am I missing something? :confused:
So you feel that it advances the cause of white nationalism if we go up to complete strangers and verbally abuse them if we hear them speak a foreign language?
You have some serious issues!
Well to be perfectly honest with you, I feel that White men who verbally abuse complete spic strangers speaking spanish on cell phones, is not only inspiring and exhiliarating to me personally, but is a pleasing sign of better things to come in "paybacks" for the millions of violent, unpunished Spic crimes committed against innocent White men, women, and children.
Why don't you, as an alleged WN, feel the same ??
The Barrenness
July 15th, 2005, 07:24 PM
GLENN MILLER: This is the same contradictory insanity coming from turn-the-other-cheek soccermoms. You're warning White men that if their sister is raped by a "negro" and they later "bust up" a "negro" walking down the street, "the only thing that is going to come of that is White men going to prison." And that's precisely why I told you to shut up. You're discouraging White men from acting like MEN, and giving joy and encouragements to negro rapists and would-be negro rapists. So once again....SHUT UP !!! And which part of SHUT UP, don't you understand ???
What else do you think is going to come from it besides the possibility of a prison sentence? And yes, I will discourage white men from doing stupid things, while you seem to want to encourage people to do insane things that have absolutely no benefit, whatsoever. Now why would YOU do that, hmmm ;)
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Rounder you are a public figure within the WN world and those unAryan remarks bring you disgrace.
With one post such as that you bring much harm to our cause. The public conception of white nationalism is negative enough without those kind of unedifying remarks.
Disgrace ?? Well, if my honest mind expressed in opposition to wimps, cowards, and defeatists brings me disgrace, then so be it. But I'll continue expressing, anyhow. But it does not harm our cause (assuming your cause is the same as mine), to get rid of the wimps, cowards, and defeatists such as Hitler Goddess, Odin, and ManAboveTime from this ACTIVISM forum. On the contrary, it helps our cause. As simple logic confirms.
I'm not familiar with you, therefore I'll remain civil towards you. . . for now. But if you attempt to spread DEFEATISMS on this forum, or otherwise damage our activism projects, I'll get on you like white on rice.
ohgolly
July 15th, 2005, 08:25 PM
I can't believe y'all were arguing over this ridiculous thing instead of listening to Linder on RBN. :eek:
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 08:53 PM
What else do you think is going to come from it besides the possibility of a prison sentence?
GLENN MILLER: My sweet revenge. That's what.
And yes, I will discourage white men from doing stupid things, while you seem to want to encourage people to do insane things that have absolutely no benefit, whatsoever.
GLENN MILLER: You know what your opinions are like, don't cha? I'll give you a hint. Everybody's got one.
Now why would YOU do that, hmmm ;)
GLENN MILLER: It's simple. I hate. Strange you haven't figured that out yet.
Rounder
July 15th, 2005, 08:59 PM
I can't believe y'all were arguing over this ridiculous thing instead of listening to Linder on RBN. :eek:
I'm sure by "ridiculous thing", you mean Hitler Goddess. I second your deduction in simple logic.
And you've made an excellent observation about Alex on RBN, as well. I completely forgot. But we can all listen to the replay on RBN when it's posted - probably by tomorrow.
The Barrenness
July 15th, 2005, 09:05 PM
I'm sure by "ridiculous thing", you mean Hitler Goddess. I second your deduction in simple logic.
Now that could have been almost funny if it would have made any sense with what he said.
odin
July 15th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I'm sure by "ridiculous thing", you mean Hitler Goddess. I second your deduction in simple logic.
Now that could have been almost funny if it would have made any sense with what he said.Remember, HG, in order to truly appreciate his witicisms you have to use "simple logic." i.e. the logic of a simpleton. :D
The Barrenness
July 15th, 2005, 09:25 PM
:D lol :D ........
John Yaeger
July 15th, 2005, 11:16 PM
Disgrace ?? Well, if my honest mind expressed in opposition to wimps, cowards, and defeatists brings me disgrace, then so be it. But I'll continue expressing, anyhow. But it does not harm our cause (assuming your cause is the same as mine), to get rid of the wimps, cowards, and defeatists such as Hitler Goddess, Odin, and ManAboveTime from this ACTIVISM forum. On the contrary, it helps our cause. As simple logic confirms.
I'm not familiar with you, therefore I'll remain civil towards you. . . for now. But if you attempt to spread DEFEATISMS on this forum, or otherwise damage our activism projects, I'll get on you like white on rice.
Ummm...can you give any reason why YOU, GLENN MILLER, are not in prison for beating up people for speaking Spanish on cell phones while you encourage others to go to prison for it? Maybe because you like to talk shit when you won't do it yourself? You seem pretty free and easy, and yet you seem to want a bunch of young people to go to prison while you just hang out and demand attention.
If people speaking Spanish on their cell phones is such a big deal that it demands violent retribution (instead of the rapes, murders, and beatings that I care about) then we are in quite a strange world, you manipulative bastard. That is seriously fucked up that you abandon your oriental child and then have a faux-freak out over someone speaking Spanish. I am coming to the opinion that you absolutely HAVE to be a government agent.
Steve B
July 15th, 2005, 11:31 PM
The bash Millerites are back in full force...this time courtesy of our newest mod Flynn and the "civil forum" which has never been civil but is used mainly to hamstring the more assertive vnnf members. Such a deal!
Sean Martin
July 16th, 2005, 12:05 AM
So basically what I am seeing is white people getting mad because a white man finds it annoying that an invader doesn’t have the courtesy to speak the language of the people paying his way.
Burnjewburn is more than likely a taxpayer and the stolen tax loot is paying for that spic that doesn’t have the decency to walk outside with his annoying chatter. White people yelling into their cell phones is annoying enough, now imagine that truly annoying language yelling in a cell phone.
I agree with you Steve, what we have here is white people taking the side of a Mexican against another white person. Burn didn’t say he beat the Mexican up or anything like it, he said he felt like it. As of right now it is not a crime to feel like beating invaders, but give it a couple years I am sure the Jews will conjure something.
So basically whites are telling us we should suppress the rage we feel daily when facing invaders. I am not advocating illegal actions, but let the rage build up and then take it out in constructive activism. And if you are a bully that gets a kick out of beating non-whites remember leaders that changed the world always had the attack team that kicked the first few people in line. Everyone has a place in the “movement” just get the timing right.
Ah never mind most racists have already mentally tried and convicted everyone that is fed up with the non-white invasion. You are supposed to get a court trial of your peers, but after reading what a lot of people have to say I am not sure a racist would be safe with 12 other racists sitting on a jury. Take this thread, if BJB was on trial and figure out how many racists supported him and how many would feed him to the Jews.
Let’s all just sit behind our computer smile at the nice Mexican spitting in your food, grin at the black gentlemen dating your daughter and laugh at all the Jewish comedians whose kinfolk are robbing your money and stealing your country. And always remember the only enemy is the Arab.
The bash Millerites are back in full force...this time courtesy of our newest mod Flynn and the "civil forum" which has never been civil but is used mainly to hamstring the more assertive vnnf members. Such a deal!
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 02:29 AM
I agree with you Steve, what we have here is white people taking the side of a Mexican against another white person. Burn didn’t say he beat the Mexican up or anything like it, he said he felt like it. As of right now it is not a crime to feel like beating invaders, but give it a couple years I am sure the Jews will conjure something.
Who is taking sides with the spic described in BJB's post? Who has said that he was wrong for having these feelings? And no, it is not a crime to feel like beating spics, niggers,etc. but it is a crime to do so. And that is what started to come up in this thread. I also was under the impression from what was said that "harrassing" muds is something that BJB does, or wants to do on a regular basis, and again I do not think anybody is saying harrassing muds is wrong, in itself, what is wrong with it is the consequences that will come of it, which we can almost be guaranteed is not going to be anything positive for us or white people in general.
You are supposed to get a court trial of your peers, but after reading what a lot of people have to say I am not sure a racist would be safe with 12 other racists sitting on a jury. Take this thread, if BJB was on trial and figure out how many racists supported him and how many would feed him to the Jews.
Just going with this scenerio, I am sure he would most likely be safe with 12 other racists sitting on a jury. But how realistic is that? You know that many of the white people that would sit on a jury in a scenerio like this would have no quarms whatsoever about convicting him. It is a very sad and harsh reality, but it is a reality, nonetheless.
So basically whites are telling us we should suppress the rage we feel daily when facing invaders. I am not advocating illegal actions, but let the rage build up and then take it out in constructive activism.
I don't think anyone would disagree with you there, but that is the key word "constructive." What would be constructive about some of the things described in this thread? And I would also agree, to some extend, that the "rage" that builds up when dealing with these things daily can also be a positive thing, but people also need to learn to control that anger and not use it for stupid, completely pointless things.
And steve, did you even bother to read the thead? Where did the "bashing" on Miller start? did it not start with him, as usual, calling everyone who disagrees with him a "defeatest" and a kike-a-like,etc.? :rolleyes:
Ronen
July 16th, 2005, 02:44 AM
I am coming to the opi60nion that you absolutely HAVE to be a government agent.
You know we're probably infested with them. I read somewhere just recently that something like 60% of the far-right parties' leadership in Germany were revealed to be government agents. Would it be any different here?
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:02 AM
Well to be perfectly honest with you, I feel that White men who verbally abuse complete spic strangers speaking spanish on cell phones, is not only inspiring and exhiliarating to me personally, but is a pleasing sign of better things to come in "paybacks" for the millions of violent, unpunished Spic crimes committed against innocent White men, women, and children.
Why don't you, as an alleged WN, feel the same ??
Being a white nationalist, "alleged" or otherwise does not have to involve abusing complete strangers who use a different language to you on the telephone.
What does this gain for the cause apart from a little mental masturbation on behalf of the knuckle dragger who participates in this kind of mindless activity?
How does moronic behaviour benefit the cause of racial preservation apart from causing the wider public to view us as potential mental health patients in need of urgent treatment?
If this is the kind of person that we are seeking to preserve then perhaps the Aryan race truly is doomed and not worth saving?
Also is it only Spanish that you object to or all Eurpean languages apart from English?
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 03:20 AM
[QUOTE=Aryan Lord]
What does this gain for the cause apart from a little mental masturbation on behalf of the knuckle dragger who participates in this kind of mindless activity?
That is exactly what it is about for some. Miller already described what is positive about this behavior for him as his "sweet revenge."
How does moronic behaviour benefit the cause of racial preservation apart from causing the wider public to view us as potential mental health patients in need of urgent treatment?
correct, again.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:27 AM
Disgrace ?? Well, if my honest mind expressed in opposition to wimps, cowards, and defeatists brings me disgrace, then so be it. But I'll continue expressing, anyhow. But it does not harm our cause (assuming your cause is the same as mine), to get rid of the wimps, cowards, and defeatists such as Hitler Goddess, Odin, and ManAboveTime from this ACTIVISM forum. On the contrary, it helps our cause. As simple logic confirms.
Those posters that you referred to,especially HG are good quality posters.HG in particular produces good quality and intelligent posts in contrast to many of the men on here who continually express their "superiority" over females and yet often resemble neanderthals in the expression of their often unclear views. We need more intelligent females on this forum-not less.
I'm not familiar with you, therefore I'll remain civil towards you. . . for now. But if you attempt to spread DEFEATISMS on this forum, or otherwise damage our activism projects, I'll get on you like white on rice.[/QUOTE]
I am not the one who is causing the "damage" around here-I think we all know the truth of the matter.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:35 AM
[QUOTE]
That is exactly what it is about for some. Miller already described what is positive about this behavior for him as his "sweet revenge."
correct, again.
We all like to watch films like Romper Stomper and American History X but some people on this forum have difficulty in establishing a difference between reality and fiction and in so doing the moronic elements cause our movement harm. This is made worse when a "name" encourages people to behave like this and risk incarceration.
Such behavour is promoted by the enemies of our cause,whether they be conscious enemies or not.
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 03:37 AM
Thanks for the kind words, A.L :)
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:38 AM
The bash Millerites are back in full force...this time courtesy of our newest mod Flynn and the "civil forum" which has never been civil but is used mainly to hamstring the more assertive vnnf members. Such a deal!
Nobody is "bashing" Miller, just criticising his harmful support for the moronic behaviour proposed by burnjewburn.
Let`s not get paranoid about this.
McKinley
July 16th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Being a white nationalist, "alleged" or otherwise does not have to involve abusing complete strangers who use a different language to you on the telephone.
What does this gain for the cause apart from a little mental masturbation on behalf of the knuckle dragger who participates in this kind of mindless activity?
How does moronic behaviour benefit the cause of racial preservation apart from causing the wider public to view us as potential mental health patients in need of urgent treatment?
If this is the kind of person that we are seeking to preserve then perhaps the Aryan race truly is doomed and not worth saving?
Also is it only Spanish that you object to or all Eurpean languages apart from English?
It seems that you have not been attacted buy abunch of nigrows or mexicoons before. Until you are mugged buy these savages yourself then lets see you talk your rightous bull shit. I live in the real world and have to deal with these scum every day. It is time to get out and look around you and see what is going on.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:58 AM
It seems that you have not been attacted buy abunch of nigrows or mexicoons before. Until you are mugged buy these savages yourself then lets see you talk your rightous bull shit. I live in the real world and have to deal with these scum every day. It is time to get out and look around you and see what is going on.
Oh dear. You are frequently attacked by people of other races? Perhaps if you toned down your aggressive confrontational nature in public you may get beaten up less frequently. :eek:
McKinley
July 16th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Oh dear. You are frequently attacked by people of other races? Perhaps if you toned down your aggressive confrontational nature in public you may get beaten up less frequently. :eek:
That was one of the roads taken to my awakening.
This shall be the last time I will reply to any of your post in this thread. Since it is obvious that you have not experenced the violence that has become to me in my younger years by these muds.
You sound just like the antis I have spoken with over the years. I hope you do not get your ass kick to bad before you truly realise that all these muds understand is to fight back or be taken out.
Good luck to you for when you might have to step out your front door and wind up in the real world.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 06:38 AM
Oh dear. You are frequently attacked by people of other races? Perhaps if you toned down your aggressive confrontational nature in public you may get beaten up less frequently. :eek:
But Oh dear, the "negroes" don't tone down their aggressive confrontational nature in public. And they almost never get beaten up at all. So why do you advise White men to tone down their's ??
The fact that just did advise a White man to tone down his aggressive confrontational nature in public, is your confession that you're not only advising defeatism, but that you're a defeatist coward yourself.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 06:51 AM
Oh Counselor Flynn, do me a favor and tell that lemming soccermom H.G. that I will not engage in further discourse with her on the subject of Manhood. Though she is an admitted defeatist and a spreader of defeatism, her "reasonings" are so stupid, they have absolutely no adverse effects a'tall upon the thinking White men and women on this forum, therefore do not warrant attention, much less rebuttal.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 07:18 AM
Being a white nationalist, "alleged" or otherwise does not have to involve abusing complete strangers who use a different language to you on the telephone.
GLENN MILLER: No one said it did. But being a wise WN MAN does involve keeping one's mouth shut when other White men do abuse mongrel strangers.
What does this gain for the cause apart from a little mental masturbation on behalf of the knuckle dragger who participates in this kind of mindless activity?
GLENN MILLER: Only defeatist cowards and jewish press hounds refer to White men abusing mongrels, as "mindless knuckle draggers." Which are you?
How does moronic behaviour benefit the cause of racial preservation apart from causing the wider public to view us as potential mental health patients in need of urgent treatment?
GLENN MILLER: But it's not "moronic behavior" to obtain a little justice for the tens-of-millions of innocent White victims of violent, unpunished, mongrels. And our Race stands a far better chance of racial preservation when we have strong, young White men obtaining justice and "paybacks" for White victims. We certainly do not get justice from ZOG's courts. The world views the White cowards who do not fight back as the potential mental health patients - not the White men and women who DO fight back.
If this is the kind of person that we are seeking to preserve then perhaps the Aryan race truly is doomed and not worth saving?
GLENN MILLER: Thanks for honestly expressing your real world view. But now, you'll have to cease calling yourself a White Nationalist and admit you're just another cowardly, do-nothing, apathetic lemming.
Also is it only Spanish that you object to or all Eurpean languages apart from English?
GLENN MILLER: Absurd questions deserve no answers.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 07:44 AM
So basically what I am seeing is white people getting mad because a white man finds it annoying that an invader doesn’t have the courtesy to speak the language of the people paying his way.
Burnjewburn is more than likely a taxpayer and the stolen tax loot is paying for that spic that doesn’t have the decency to walk outside with his annoying chatter. White people yelling into their cell phones is annoying enough, now imagine that truly annoying language yelling in a cell phone.
I agree with you Steve, what we have here is white people taking the side of a Mexican against another white person. Burn didn’t say he beat the Mexican up or anything like it, he said he felt like it. As of right now it is not a crime to feel like beating invaders, but give it a couple years I am sure the Jews will conjure something.
So basically whites are telling us we should suppress the rage we feel daily when facing invaders. I am not advocating illegal actions, but let the rage build up and then take it out in constructive activism. And if you are a bully that gets a kick out of beating non-whites remember leaders that changed the world always had the attack team that kicked the first few people in line. Everyone has a place in the “movement” just get the timing right.
Ah never mind most racists have already mentally tried and convicted everyone that is fed up with the non-white invasion. You are supposed to get a court trial of your peers, but after reading what a lot of people have to say I am not sure a racist would be safe with 12 other racists sitting on a jury. Take this thread, if BJB was on trial and figure out how many racists supported him and how many would feed him to the Jews.
Let’s all just sit behind our computer smile at the nice Mexican spitting in your food, grin at the black gentlemen dating your daughter and laugh at all the Jewish comedians whose kinfolk are robbing your money and stealing your country. And always remember the only enemy is the Arab.
As usual, Doc Martin sees thru the BS, and gets to the gist.
Yes Doc, the issue here is whether or not WNs should ridicule young White men who are aggressively manly towards mongrels in public places. It is one thing to refrain from advocating violence/illegalities. It is quite another to openly and publicly and day after day after day on WN forums, to constantly ridicule and demonize our younger, fed-up Aryan warriors who do advocate seeking justice by treating the negroes and spics the same way negroes and spics treat White people.
And by their constant condemnations, they are in effect, giving aid, comfort, and joy to our enemies, while demoralizing therefore paralyzing, WN men. And they are the ones who should be condemned by all loyal WNs and VNN'ers, consequently.
Moose
July 16th, 2005, 08:00 AM
I've been in what I estimate to be approximately twenty "street fights" with negroes, and I never had the luxury of actually being the one that started it.
Well, I did sort of start one, but only after being provoked. I was playing basketball with some groids during gym class in high school. The groids kept fouling me and wouldn't give me the calls. So I threw a Mexican to the ground as he drove to the hoop. Groids get mad, and play even more aggressivley. While under the hoop, I'm locked in with this groid trying to position for a rebound. He's grabbing me, pulling me, and just generally making it clear that he's not respecting me. So I shove him away. Then as I turn away from him, the groid pushes me in the back and shouts "you betta quit foulin' me!" So I turned around and punched him in the face and it was on.
That's really the whole point of this thread I think. Whites have been on the recieving end for too long, and even more pathetic, the mass of them won't even defend themselves. I can only applaud a White man that gets "pro-active" in "race relations," if you know what I mean.
Good work burnjewburn.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 08:12 AM
Ummm...can you give any reason why YOU, GLENN MILLER, are not in prison for beating up people for speaking Spanish on cell phones while you encourage others to go to prison for it?
GLENN MILLER: Because I'm smart enough to get by with it. And I do not (as you say) "encourage others to go to prison" for anything. Are you crazy ?
Maybe because you like to talk shit when you won't do it yourself?
GLENN MILLER: But my police and military records prove I did do "it" myself. Therefore, I'm entitled to talk s--t about it when where I please. It ain't brag when it's a fact.
You seem pretty free and easy, and yet you seem to want a bunch of young people to go to prison while you just hang out and demand attention.
GLENN MILLER: "Seemings" are in the minds of the beholders. But for the record, I do not want any young White people to go to prison, much less a "bunch". Where did you get that ridiculous notion, anyway?
If people speaking Spanish on their cell phones is such a big deal that it demands violent retribution (instead of the rapes, murders, and beatings that I care about) then we are in quite a strange world, you manipulative bastard.
GLENN MILLER: Stop your foul language. You're in the Civil forum. But no one said speaking Spanish on their cell phones is a big deal or that it demands violent retribution. Pay attention or stop shooting off your mouth. And we are in a strange world. It's a strange world because there are too few White men like me, and far too many like you.
That is seriously fucked up that you abandon your oriental child and then have a faux-freak out over someone speaking Spanish. I am coming to the opinion that you absolutely HAVE to be a government agent.
GLENN MILLER: Well if I am, and in view of all I do and contribute to the Cause of freedom from the jews and racial survival, the WN "movement" needs to recruit alot more just like me, rather than more anonymous, do-nothing, contribute-nothing, key-peckers like you confess to be.
Rounder
July 16th, 2005, 08:18 AM
I've been in what I estimate to be approximately twenty "street fights" with negroes, and I never had the luxury of actually being the one that started it.
Well, I did sort of start one, but only after being provoked. I was playing basketball with some groids during gym class in high school. The groids kept fouling me and wouldn't give me the calls. So I threw a Mexican to the ground as he drove to the hoop. Groids get mad, and play even more aggressivley. While under the hoop, I'm locked in with this groid trying to position for a rebound. He's grabbing me, pulling me, and just generally making it clear that he's not respecting me. So I shove him away. Then as I turn away from him, the groid pushes me in the back and shouts "you betta quit foulin' me!" So I turned around and punched him in the face and it was on.
That's really the whole point of this thread I think. Whites have been on the recieving end for too long, and even more pathetic, the mass of them won't even defend themselves. I can only applaud a White man that gets "pro-active" in "race relations," if you know what I mean.
Good work burnjewburn.
Good work burnjewburn AND good work, Moose.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 12:07 PM
But Oh dear, the "negroes" don't tone down their aggressive confrontational nature in public. And they almost never get beaten up at all. So why do you advise White men to tone down their's ??
You are twisting my words:again! I am not advocating that we should back down in the face of provocations. I am merely suggsting that walking upto total strangers and telling them to speak English is surely counter productive and a moronic activity. You seem unable or unwilling to appreciate the difference.
The fact that just did advise a White man to tone down his aggressive confrontational nature in public, is your confession that you're not only advising defeatism, but that you're a defeatist coward yourself.[/QUOTE]
You have labelled me a coward which in itself is quite a cowardly thing to do on the Internet with a few thousand miles distance between us.You advocate WNs making idiots out of themselves in public and for what? Someone speaking Spanish on a cell phone. Is that what you are now reduced to? Advocating white men to get into trouble with the police and for white nationalism to be discredited? That is a strange brand of white nationalism that you are pushing.
I for one would rather challenge 4 idiotic misbehaving white teenagers as I did today than tell a foreigner to speak English.If you are advocating that we should stand up and be counted then we should do so when it is worthwhile. The example that you have given makes no sense.
And by the way labelling someone "defeatest" is a wonderful strategy for manipulating those who have different views but it wont work on me Miller.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 12:09 PM
That was one of the roads taken to my awakening.
This shall be the last time I will reply to any of your post in this thread. Since it is obvious that you have not experenced the violence that has become to me in my younger years by these muds.
You sound just like the antis I have spoken with over the years. I hope you do not get your ass kick to bad before you truly realise that all these muds understand is to fight back or be taken out.
Good luck to you for when you might have to step out your front door and wind up in the real world.
I live in the real world, not in a skinhead movie as you obviously think you do.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 12:12 PM
Oh Counselor Flynn, do me a favor and tell that lemming soccermom H.G. that I will not engage in further discourse with her on the subject of Manhood. Though she is an admitted defeatist and a spreader of defeatism, her "reasonings" are so stupid, they have absolutely no adverse effects a'tall upon the thinking White men and women on this forum, therefore do not warrant attention, much less rebuttal.
There you go again, calling those with different views "defeatists".
How wonderfully Marxist.
Rounder I would suggest that my words and the words of HG probably have a greater effect upon thinking people than yours. There is the difference.
JohnAFlynn
July 16th, 2005, 12:36 PM
GLENN MILLER: In other words, when we pay the "negroes" back for assaulting tens-of-millions of White men, women, and children, the lemmings might not like us, and the jews' media might throw more "white guilt" on the lemmings. Spoken like the classic, contented slave who opposes any and all active resistance to the on-going, one-sided, Black-on-White, world-wide, race war. You make me want to puke. So SHUT UP !!!
#1: No, that's not the "other words" of what HG meant. And YOU KNOW IT. What we all have been trying to point out is that however righteous it may be to do what you're advocating, it's not advisable to do so unless in self-defense or defense of others, and not just randomly or because they're talking on a cellphone in a foriegn language, due to the a) lack of upside and b) terrible downside of prison etc. Why do you insist on reinterpreting that to something else?
#2: I warned you earlier about this unwarranted lack of civility. Now it's in the Civil Forum. You failed to listen.
JohnAFlynn
July 16th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Disgrace ?? Well, if my honest mind expressed in opposition to wimps, cowards, and defeatists brings me disgrace, then so be it. But I'll continue expressing, anyhow. But it does not harm our cause (assuming your cause is the same as mine), to get rid of the wimps, cowards, and defeatists such as Hitler Goddess, Odin, and ManAboveTime from this ACTIVISM forum. On the contrary, it helps our cause. As simple logic confirms.
I'm not familiar with you, therefore I'll remain civil towards you. . . for now. But if you attempt to spread DEFEATISMS on this forum, or otherwise damage our activism projects, I'll get on you like white on rice.
No, you won't continue expressing advocacy for ILLEGAL, UNPROVOKED ASSAULTS.
And, you'll remain civil towards EVERYONE in a civil forum thread, after a 72 hour cooling off period that is.
JohnAFlynn
July 16th, 2005, 12:50 PM
The bash Millerites are back in full force...this time courtesy of our newest mod Flynn and the "civil forum" which has never been civil but is used mainly to hamstring the more assertive vnnf members. Such a deal!
I'm going to assume you haven't read the entire thread Steve. If you had, you'd notice that virtually everyone has attempted to reasonably explain to Rounder how his advocacy of illegal activities in this thread is counterproductive, however entertaining such incidents might be to witness. Instead of returning that with civil arguments of his own, he chooses to level ad hominem attacks, profane at that. I moved this to the civil forum in hopes of making it a civil discussion. Rounder chose not to adhere to the rules. I have banned him for three days. It seems last year you were very happy to see Norcal banned INDEFINITELY for similar violations of civil forum rules. What's with the change of opinion, Steve? Is it because the rules are actually being applied to your hero?
JohnAFlynn
July 16th, 2005, 01:02 PM
I've been in what I estimate to be approximately twenty "street fights" with negroes, and I never had the luxury of actually being the one that started it.
Well, I did sort of start one, but only after being provoked. I was playing basketball with some groids during gym class in high school. The groids kept fouling me and wouldn't give me the calls. So I threw a Mexican to the ground as he drove to the hoop. Groids get mad, and play even more aggressivley. While under the hoop, I'm locked in with this groid trying to position for a rebound. He's grabbing me, pulling me, and just generally making it clear that he's not respecting me. So I shove him away. Then as I turn away from him, the groid pushes me in the back and shouts "you betta quit foulin' me!" So I turned around and punched him in the face and it was on.
That's really the whole point of this thread I think. Whites have been on the recieving end for too long, and even more pathetic, the mass of them won't even defend themselves. I can only applaud a White man that gets "pro-active" in "race relations," if you know what I mean.
Good work burnjewburn.
No one here has said that its wrong to defend oneself. In fact, quite the opposite. What I and others have argued is that it is stupid and impetuous to randomly attack non-whites without provocation.
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 01:31 PM
Oh Counselor Flynn, do me a favor and tell that lemming soccermom H.G. that I will not engage in further discourse with her on the subject of Manhood. Though she is an admitted defeatist and a spreader of defeatism, her "reasonings" are so stupid, they have absolutely no adverse effects a'tall upon the thinking White men and women on this forum, therefore do not warrant attention, much less rebuttal.
I am not a man, so maybe you are right that I cannot speak on "manhood." But it would seem to me that manhood would also include knowing how to control yourself and not acting like an immature fool, or a nigger.
And maybe you are also correct in that considering the consequences before you decide to act on something is "stupid." LOL. :rolleyes:
Moose
July 16th, 2005, 01:48 PM
No one here has said that its wrong to defend oneself. In fact, quite the opposite. What I and others have argued is that it is stupid and impetuous to randomly attack non-whites without provocation.
I know. ;)
Burnjewburn didn't attack anyone, nor did he threaten or even advocate the attack of anyone (in his original post at least). He related a story about how he told a mestizo to speak English. I haven't done it myself, but it doesn't sound entirely unreasonable to me. Burnjewburn didn't say he was going to attack the mestizo. What probably would have happened is the mestizo would have attacked him, and he would have had to defend himself. :D
Negroes act like negroes because no one corrects them. Mestizos speak nasty on their cell phones because no one rudely informs them that such behavior is unaccetable.
Can doing such things result in undesirable consequences? Sure, but that doesn't stop negroes from roving every public place, staring down White people, or otherwise asserting their "dominance." I can't say I find anything disagreeable in a White man that challenges that (including a mestizo that thinks he owns the place).
*Shrugs*
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 02:20 PM
But Oh dear, the "negroes" don't tone down their aggressive confrontational nature in public. And they almost never get beaten up at all. So why do you advise White men to tone down their's ??
The fact that just did advise a White man to tone down his aggressive confrontational nature in public, is your confession that you're not only advising defeatism, but that you're a defeatist coward yourself.
What it means is that she actually cares for real, existing, white males. I don't know why you'd want to abuse a white woman with enough empathy to understand our situation and I don't want to know.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 02:22 PM
No, you won't continue expressing advocacy for ILLEGAL, UNPROVOKED ASSAULTS.
And, you'll remain civil towards EVERYONE in a civil forum thread, after a 72 hour cooling off period that is.
I just want to apologize for my cursing in this forum, and also to say that John Flynn is an immensely valuable contribution to the moderation here.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 02:30 PM
As usual, Doc Martin sees thru the BS, and gets to the gist.
Yes Doc, the issue here is whether or not WNs should ridicule young White men who are aggressively manly towards mongrels in public places. It is one thing to refrain from advocating violence/illegalities. It is quite another to openly and publicly and day after day after day on WN forums, to constantly ridicule and demonize our younger, fed-up Aryan warriors who do advocate seeking justice by treating the negroes and spics the same way negroes and spics treat White people.
And by their constant condemnations, they are in effect, giving aid, comfort, and joy to our enemies, while demoralizing therefore paralyzing, WN men. And they are the ones who should be condemned by all loyal WNs and VNN'ers, consequently.
Nonsense. The issue here isn't about ridiculing anyone. The issue is whether people who aren't in prison should have the right to incite others to give up their freedom by randomly assaulting non-whites in public.
Steve B
July 16th, 2005, 02:30 PM
I moved this to the civil forum in hopes of making it a civil discussion. Rounder chose not to adhere to the rules. I have banned him for three days. It seems last year you were very happy to see Norcal banned INDEFINITELY for similar violations of civil forum rules. What's with the change of opinion, Steve? Is it because the rules are actually being applied to your hero?
You're being disingenuous, John. There is quite a bit of difference between troublemaker Norcal flaming Alex(the guy who owns this place) and Miller(who has done more for VNN than anyone) who speaks his mind to the annoying harpy, HG.
Something else I'd like to say. It's obvious that you have never liked Miller and IMO you suckered him into this by placing this thread in the civil forum knowing full well that Miller would violate civil forum rules so you could then ban him, very clever. If you can ban Miller for some bullshit technicality then I want no part of this place.
Mods, please delete my username and password or tell me how I can do it myself. I'm outta here.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Oh dear. You are frequently attacked by people of other races? Perhaps if you toned down your aggressive confrontational nature in public you may get beaten up less frequently. :eek:
Aryan Lord, I respect a lot of what you say (and if you are as young as I've seen other posters state, I doubly respect it) but you don't need an attitude to get into fights with other races, at least where I live. I've had five or six physical brawls with blacks (which means I've fought about 25 blacks) and I never started one fight. I lost every one BTW, though I can at least claim that I'd walk by all of them the next day.
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Miller(who has done more for VNN than anyone) who speaks his mind to the annoying harpy, HG
Why do you even bother to comment, when it is more then obvious you have not read through the thread?
Is it just me that he is speaking his mind to? It seems he has labeled everyone in the thread who he disagrees with a defeatest, a coward and a kike-a-like,etc. Just like he always does.
I could be wrong, but it does not appear he has been banned. So you can quit crying about that.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 02:44 PM
You know we're probably infested with them. I read somewhere just recently that something like 60% of the far-right parties' leadership in Germany were revealed to be government agents. Would it be any different here?
Yeah, I remember on Stormfront they shut the German forum down because of that. But I don't think it's that bad here (I could be wrong).
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 03:01 PM
You're being disingenuous, John. There is quite a bit of difference between troublemaker Norcal flaming Alex(the guy who owns this place) and Miller(who has done more for VNN than anyone) who speaks his mind to the annoying harpy, HG.
Something else I'd like to say. It's obvious that you have never liked Miller and IMO you suckered him into this by placing this thread in the civil forum knowing full well that Miller would violate civil forum rules so you could then ban him, very clever. If you can ban Miller for some bullshit technicality then I want no part of this place.
Mods, please delete my username and password or tell me how I can do it myself. I'm outta here.
That's crazy. This place is going to be shut down if people don't stop advocating public violence towards "minorities". Come on, you have to know that's true. Miller has no self-control and can't stop it.
As far as her not liking Miller, why don't you look at all the names he's called her? Can you give any reason why she should like Miller?
Edit: I misread your message and now see that you meant John A. Flynn, rather than Hitler Goddess, never liked Glenn Miller. I have no idea if that's true but if you are actually going to leave, perhaps you could tell us how Glenn Miller prodding us to act completely berserk in public will help you or me. HG and JAF seem to actually care about white people in a real world--i.e. don't want us to end up in a little room being sodomized. Your hostility towards HG is to the detriment of your character--to put it very, very, mildly. That's messed up that she--who wouldn't have to face prison rape--has a better grasp of the situation than you. She advocates common sense that won't result in the brutal torture of white males and you put her down for it.
Moose
July 16th, 2005, 03:23 PM
Okay, burnjewburn said he told a mestizo to speak English, yet this thread has evolved into something that didn't happen...it has evolved into him supposedly going out and trying to physically beat random non-Whites. How did words get twisted?
I'll tell ya how...
A few people respond and say that telling mestizos to speak English is a bad idea (I suppose because White men should always be aware that speaking their mind to non-Whites may result in the violent mud attacking...don't do it White man, you might get hurt!), so Rounder says "bullshit!" Claiming you shouldn't say things because of consequences is cowardice he says. He says there is nothing wrong with speaking your mind (Much like how I've read John A. Flynn support publically chastising race-mixers; what's the difference?). So how did this thread turn into a discussion about White men physically attacking random non-Whites?
Maybe this has something to do with it.
Hitler Goddess:
So, let me get this straight, you actually think it is a positive thing for people to walk up to any spic or nigger and with no provocation proceed to kick their ass,etc? Is this something you would suggest people do? Is it also a positive thing if they end up in prison for many years charged with a hate crime, that will be shown all over the jewsmedia? It would seem to me the Jews, that you are always bitching about, would love this.
No one said anything about physically attacking people at all! Where the hell did that come from HG? She got her feelings hurt, so she comes out of nowhere with some weird ass question that had nothing to do with the subject. Violence? Who said anything about going out and beating non-Whites? Sounds like a provacation to me. Now everyone go back and re-read the events and tell me what happened.
HGs off the wall question is followed by a few people going (before Rounder responds by the way) "Attacking people!? Rounder wants to attack people!? That's not a good idea! What the hell is wrong with you Rounder!? You callin' me a coward because I don't want to engage in violence and go to jail!? Rounder is adovocating illegal activity and is calling people cowards, BAN HIM!"
And then everyone thinks this conversation is about violence, so the discussion goes that way...when in reality it just came out of nowhere from HG.
So Rounder, seemingly provoked by that strange question (no one mentioned physical violence), responds that millions of Whites are attacked by non-Whites, so "hell no," he don't have a problem with it.
And so, the thread degenerates to it's present state, with Rounder under threat of ban and Steve B wanting his account deleted.
Ya see how things go bad?
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 03:32 PM
Okay, burnjewburn said he told a mestizo to speak English, yet this thread has evolved into something that didn't happen...it has evolved into him supposedly going out and trying to physically beat random non-Whites. How did words get twisted?
I'll tell ya how...
A few people respond and say that telling mestizos to speak English is a bad idea (I suppose because White men should always be aware that speaking their mind to non-Whites may result in the violent mud attacking...don't do it White man, you might get hurt!), so Rounder says "bullshit!" Claiming you shouldn't say things because of consequences is cowardice he says. He says there is nothing wrong with speaking your mind (Much like how I've read John A. Flynn support publically chastising race-mixers; what's the difference?). So how did this thread turn into a discussion about White men physically attacking random non-Whites?
Maybe this has something to do with it.
Hitler Goddess:
No one said anything about physically attacking people at all! Where the hell did that come from HG? She got her feelings hurt, so she comes out of nowhere with some weird ass question that had nothing to do with the subject. Violence? Who said anything about going out and beating non-Whites? Sounds like a provacation to me. Now everyone go back and re-read the events and tell me what happened.
HGs off the wall question is followed by a few people going (before Rounder responds by the way) "Attacking people!? Rounder wants to attack people!? That's not a good idea! What the hell is wrong with you Rounder!? You callin' me a coward because I don't want to engage in violence and go to jail!? Rounder is adovocating illegal activity and is calling people cowards, BAN HIM!"
And then everyone thinks this conversation is about violence, so the discussion goes that way...when in reality it just came out of nowhere from HG.
So Rounder, seemingly provoked by that strange question (no one mentioned physical violence), responds that millions of Whites are attacked by non-Whites, so "hell no," he don't have a problem with it.
And so, the thread degenerates to it's present state, with Rounder under threat of ban and Steve B wanting his account deleted.
Ya see how things go bad?
Moose, for God's sake man, Miller has already told me on this thread that he can incite others toward beating up people for speaking Spanish because he (Glenn Miller) "can get away with it". Let's not pretend this is something it's not. This is extremely serious.
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 03:40 PM
The whole reason that got brought up in the first place is because I think we can all figure out that if you randomly walk up to muds and tell them to speak English, or hassle them in some other way, unprovoked, that may lead to a physical confrontation, and as I already said, from the things that BJB said, this sounds like something he thinks about doing often. I was just saying that doing these things is not a wise decision. Miller then jumps in to call me a defeatest and to say "it is payback time" giving BJB the impression that continuing or beginning to do these things(most likely this would either lead to him getting his ass kicked, or kicking someone's ass himself and possibly going to prison) is a good idea.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 03:40 PM
Aryan Lord, I respect a lot of what you say (and if you are as young as I've seen other posters state, I doubly respect it) but you don't need an attitude to get into fights with other races, at least where I live. I've had five or six physical brawls with blacks (which means I've fought about 25 blacks) and I never started one fight. I lost every one BTW, though I can at least claim that I'd walk by all of them the next day.
For the record I am in my mid 40s, though I am frequently told by people that I don`t look it! :D
However that is by the by. I am all for self defence but it is ridiculous to provoke a situation from which no jury would save the defendant from a stretch inside. What burnjewburn proposes and Miller supports is counter productive and no-one should be advocating such action on this forum.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 03:50 PM
For the record I am in my mid 40s, though I am frequently told by people that I don`t look it! :D
However that is by the by. I am all for self defence but it is ridiculous to provoke a situation from which no jury would save the defendant from a stretch inside. What burnjewburn proposes and Miller supports is counter productive and no-one should be advocating such action on this forum.
I agree 100%.
John Yaeger
July 16th, 2005, 04:26 PM
GLENN MILLER: Well if I am, and in view of all I do and contribute to the Cause of freedom from the jews and racial survival, the WN "movement" needs to recruit alot more just like me, rather than more anonymous, do-nothing, contribute-nothing, key-peckers like you confess to be.
You are obviously equal with me in computer illiteracy. Your reply to me is in the quote block and I don't know how to respond to it.
But your garbage about being a Green Beret doesn't mean anything to me. I hate death worshippers and that's WHY I don't like being around blacks and Jews. Don't brag to me about how you killed people because the government told you to. It makes you a weak idiot and doesn't give you the right to tell people to commit violent acts in public that will lead to prison.
You like to talk about white cowardice? The more Vietnamese you killed because the government told you to, the more YOU contributed to white cowardice.
Aryan Lord
July 16th, 2005, 04:36 PM
You are obviously equal with me in computer illiteracy. Your reply to me is in the quote block and I don't know how to respond to it.
But your garbage about being a Green Beret doesn't mean anything to me. I hate death worshippers and that's WHY I don't like being around blacks and Jews. Don't brag to me about how you killed people because the government told you to. It makes you a weak idiot and doesn't give you the right to tell people to commit violent acts in public that will lead to prison.
You like to talk about white cowardice? The more Vietnamese you killed because the government told you to, the more YOU contributed to white cowardice.
I agree. He shouldn`t be boasting about killing for ZOG. The USA is ZOG`s global policeman and we must consider those who wear it`s uniforms as our enemies.
Alex Linder
July 16th, 2005, 05:15 PM
I unbanned Miller. Glenn, calling everyone a defeatist who doesn't agree with you is the wrong way to go. However, it's not bannable. Fight it out, don't involve me. If I want to say something, I'll do it.
Испанец
July 16th, 2005, 06:19 PM
I Just walked into a truck stop in Virginia. There was this puerto-rican talking on a cell phone I told it to speak english. It said it was talking to its brother I said i do not give a shit speak english. The piece of shit just kept on blabbing I told him again same result but this time his white buddy said he is in the service and he is talking to his brother. I said I do not give a fuck he can atleast have some respect for us and speak english. The (white guy) said puerto-rico is a part of america. I said to him whatever you are a fucking traitor.
Not one god damned white person came to support me they looked at me as if i were the one in the wrong. I did see a few whites snickering in the back ground though but none came to my aid.
You were in the wrong, that's why the Whites looked at you strangely. In the first place, Spanish is a European (Aryan) language, and you will see Argentinians and Latin Americans of Germanic descent speaking Spanish. In your area this may not be an issue though.
Secondly, and as some people on this thread pointed out, the way to keep the races separate is to have them use cultural symbols that distinguish them from others. This is how the Jews have managed to keep themselves relatively distinct over many centuries: using their own languages (eg. Ladino and Yiddish) amongst the host populations. Saying mestizo immigrants should speak English is tantamount to supporting their assimilation into the greater American society (one reason why many here hate conservatives, who support assimilation).
Thirdly, you gave White folks an unsavory image of the "racist" (something not even the Jews could have thought up, in the wildest talk show): harassing decent folks who simply want to make a phone call over something as insignificant as speaking another language. This non-White was not even bothering you.
Herman van Houten
July 16th, 2005, 06:26 PM
Manners, gentlemen. It's the civil forum here. ;)
This whole thread is another example of a conflict because of misinterpretation of words.
Stepping to a "hispanic" (got to get used to being in the civil forum) talking hispanic and telling him to speak english is perfecty acceptable. Beating him up is not.
Would I do it myself? No.
Is that cowardice? Yes.
I think it is wise as well.
The Barrenness
July 16th, 2005, 07:00 PM
Manners, gentlemen. It's the civil forum here. ;)
Stepping to a "hispanic" (got to get used to being in the civil forum) talking hispanic and telling him to speak english is perfecty acceptable. Beating him up is not.
Would I do it myself? No.
Is that cowardice? Yes.
I think it is wise as well.
Refraining from "stepping" to the hispanic and telling him to speak English can not be truly labeled cowardice, IMHO. If the Hispanic "steps" up to you with the intent of starting something and you do not do, or say anything, that is more correctly cowardice.
Sean Martin
July 16th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Actually before this thread veered into should we randomly attack non-whites or not, BJB didn’t make an unreasonable request. I myself have told white people to tone it on their phones in a restaurant or whatever. This is courtesy; the Mexican should have simply gone outside. This is no different than telling someone to stop smoking while you are eating or telling the drunk college kids in the booth next to you to tone it down you are trying to enjoy your burger.
Unfortunately telling someone not to be rude may escalate into a violent scene. Whether the people are white or not we should defend ourselves and family from violence. I don’t think anyone advocated randomly attacking non-whites, however we should tell them when they are doing something that is so truly annoying that we can’t concentrate on our tasks. Telling someone to “take it outside” is perfectly reasonable. Telling someone to speak English is also reasonable if it becomes such a distraction you can’t concentrate.
I can’t guarantee that they won’t react violently and if you are not in the condition to defend yourself then sit back and take whatever is thrown at you. We should have the right to enjoy a pleasant evening out in a public place without any disturbance from anyone white or not.
Manners, gentlemen. It's the civil forum here. ;)
That is what it is all about, proper manners. If we don’t set the example and tell non-whites about proper manners, who will? The Jews?
JohnAFlynn
July 17th, 2005, 04:16 AM
I know. ;)
Burnjewburn didn't attack anyone, nor did he threaten or even advocate the attack of anyone (in his original post at least). He related a story about how he told a mestizo to speak English. I haven't done it myself, but it doesn't sound entirely unreasonable to me. Burnjewburn didn't say he was going to attack the mestizo. What probably would have happened is the mestizo would have attacked him, and he would have had to defend himself. :D
Negroes act like negroes because no one corrects them. Mestizos speak nasty on their cell phones because no one rudely informs them that such behavior is unaccetable.
Can doing such things result in undesirable consequences? Sure, but that doesn't stop negroes from roving every public place, staring down White people, or otherwise asserting their "dominance." I can't say I find anything disagreeable in a White man that challenges that (including a mestizo that thinks he owns the place).
*Shrugs*
I think we all agree on this much Moose. I myself wouldn't find anything "disagreeable" about a white man who actually went around attacking non-whites randomly. So long as that is his informed choice and he can accept the likely consequences. What I do find disagreeable is a prominent movement activist essentially advising that young White men SHOULD go out and do these things. And then arguing with and maligning those who point out that there can and likely will be negative consequences to those White men who take his advice. What burnjewburn did was funny, but essentially ill-advised, as he would have nothing to gain by it, and could wind up either physically injured or in jail if it escalated.
Aryan Lord
July 17th, 2005, 04:22 AM
You were in the wrong, that's why the Whites looked at you strangely. In the first place, Spanish is a European (Aryan) language, and you will see Argentinians and Latin Americans of Germanic descent speaking Spanish. In your area this may not be an issue though.
Secondly, and as some people on this thread pointed out, the way to keep the races separate is to have them use cultural symbols that distinguish them from others. This is how the Jews have managed to keep themselves relatively distinct over many centuries: using their own languages (eg. Ladino and Yiddish) amongst the host populations. Saying mestizo immigrants should speak English is tantamount to supporting their assimilation into the greater American society (one reason why many here hate conservatives, who support assimilation).
Thirdly, you gave White folks an unsavory image of the "racist" (something not even the Jews could have thought up, in the wildest talk show): harassing decent folks who simply want to make a phone call over something as insignificant as speaking another language. This non-White was not even bothering you.
Excellent points and very well articulated.
He has not addressed my question either about Spanish being a European language. Perhaps he could provide us with a list of languages which are acceptable for him to hear spoken?
I wonder what his views are regarding the great Miguel Serrano?
Aryan Lord
July 17th, 2005, 04:24 AM
Manners, gentlemen. It's the civil forum here. ;)
This whole thread is another example of a conflict because of misinterpretation of words.
Stepping to a "hispanic" (got to get used to being in the civil forum) talking hispanic and telling him to speak english is perfecty acceptable. Beating him up is not.
Would I do it myself? No.
Is that cowardice? Yes.
I think it is wise as well.
Why is such behaviour acceptable? Are you suggesting that immigrants should all speak English and assimilate?
Is is not racial segregation that we desire and demand? What you are suggesting is counter-productive to that process.
JohnAFlynn
July 17th, 2005, 04:28 AM
You're being disingenuous, John. There is quite a bit of difference between troublemaker Norcal flaming Alex(the guy who owns this place) and Miller(who has done more for VNN than anyone) who speaks his mind to the annoying harpy, HG.
Something else I'd like to say. It's obvious that you have never liked Miller and IMO you suckered him into this by placing this thread in the civil forum knowing full well that Miller would violate civil forum rules so you could then ban him, very clever. If you can ban Miller for some bullshit technicality then I want no part of this place.
Mods, please delete my username and password or tell me how I can do it myself. I'm outta here.
That's silly Steve. I gave Rounder a nice little warning when he STARTED the flaming and profanity in this thread. I also then posted that I was moving it to the Civil Forum. In order for him to get back to this thread, he had to go the Civil Forum, rather than the Main Forum, to find it. How can someone be suckered into something when the situation was fully disclosed to him in advance? Tell me that Steve! Where was the deception? The problem here isn't my enforcement of the rules, the problem is a certain member's flaunting of said rules because he believes his "position" gives him immunity from said Rules.
As far as my relationship with Miller, there was a time as many here know, that I was opposed to him. We have long since "kissed and made up" so to speak, and I came to consider him to be a very important part of this community. But if I were to give him a pass for running roughshod over people and creating flamewars, simply because I think well of him or because he is the "tabloid clerk," then I would have sullied my position as moderator. The fact is, I limited the ban to three days, where others have been banned permanently for similar or even less violations, out of deference to him and because I sensed he might have been having a bad day or something.
McKinley
July 17th, 2005, 04:40 AM
If white Nationalist do not stand up to these none white then who will Zog, The Lemming oh I got it the tooth fairy? She will wave her wahn and everything will just disapear.
Is this forum going to turn into storm frort and ban someone just because of thier screen name? I sure hope not.
Aryan Lord
July 17th, 2005, 04:43 AM
If white Nationalist do not stand up to these none white then who will Zog, The Lemming oh I got it the tooth fairy? She will wave her wahn and everything will just disapear.
Is this forum going to turn into storm frort and ban someone just because of thier screen name? I sure hope not.
Why do you want Hispanics to speak English? What is your objective in doing this?
Mush
July 17th, 2005, 10:59 AM
If white Nationalist do not stand up to these none white then who will .
Stand up to them for doing what? Talking on a cell phone? Way to pick your battles!
The Barrenness
July 17th, 2005, 01:07 PM
If white Nationalist do not stand up to these none white then who will Zog, The Lemming oh I got it the tooth fairy? She will wave her wahn and everything will just disapear.
Is this forum going to turn into storm frort and ban someone just because of thier screen name? I sure hope not.
In your story you basically said the guy did not even respond to you. Obviously he did not speak English, at all, and could not understand you or he chose to let it go and just ignore you, which to most people is going to make him look more respectable then you(I am not saying I agree with this) this is most likely a big part of the reason the white guy jumped to his defense. Besides all the other numerous reasons discussed, if that, alone, doesn't also show you why this is a negative way to handle yourself in these situations I really don't know what else to say.
Herman van Houten
July 17th, 2005, 03:41 PM
I never considered that hispanic didn't speak english. But yes, that could very well be the case.
And Aryan Lord, you're absolutely right. Forcing subhumans to speak our english is counterproductive. We should encourage them to keep their tribal language now, which will make their later repatriation easier.
The Barrenness
July 17th, 2005, 03:54 PM
[QUOTE=999]I never considered that hispanic didn't speak english. But yes, that could very well be the case.
Actually that was incorrect, I didn't notice this part before:
It said it was talking to its brother I said i do not give a shit speak english :o
And Aryan Lord, you're absolutely right. Forcing subhumans to speak our english is counterproductive. We should encourage them to keep their tribal language now, which will make their later repatriation easier.
Exactly correct.
John Yaeger
July 17th, 2005, 09:34 PM
So long for now. I like a lot of you but I just can't hang around while an obvious provacateur prevails over reasonable people who love their folk. But I can't do anything about it, either. I'll still keep encouraging people to read the "This Just In" section, and I wish Linder much luck. Miller, you're like some kind of cat with nine lives. Can you think of anyone else who would be exposed writing to prosecutors offering to do research for them and yet would be as loved as you? How about someone leaving messages about how they *only* thought of their own children as weapons against Jews? Or how about advocating that we all renounce our anonymity, just because you had to? Yeah, that's the way to form resistance movements--we all narc on one another! Or having non-white children and abandoning them? Or telling us to assault non-whites and go to prison while you sit at home with that lame grin on your face?
Glenn Miller, I hereby pronounce you the ultimate, unbannable hero of VNN. God wuvs you and he has shown it a billion times over here on VNN.
Chass
July 17th, 2005, 10:58 PM
May I chime in here? I think the primary discussion on this thread is when and how should Whites stand up for
themselves. My experience would seem to suggest that a certain degree of situation awareness is needed.
My first experience in a racially motivated incident occurred some eight years ago before I was ever involved with the
NA or any WN group for that matter. What happened was that back then I went to various US Army base clubs
around where I live for Country Music Night. The way many of the NCO clubs work - and especially the one on the
base I work - is that the Blacks have their side of the club and the Whites frequent the other with very little
interaction. However, this never stopped bands of roving, drunken bucks from coming over to the White side around
0200 or so and causing trouble. On this one occasion, an especially bold group got on the dance floor and also
started harassing women. The usual Typical Lemming Behavior set in and I got pissed off and was going to leave
before I caused a scene. As I went to pick up my jacket, I noticed that the Bro’s were hitting on one woman who’s
drunk cowboy boyfriend had the balls to stick up for her. So there are these five niggers backing a drunk White guy
into a corner. I was armed and simply went up behind the ‘groids (they were in a semi-circle with their backs to me)
and stood behind the tallest, most heavy set one in the group. Had they jumped this guy, my intent was to
incapacitate the most serious threat and work my way down. Nothing happened because one of the White guy’s
friends came up and talked him down from taking on these ‘groids. The funniest part of this was when the big bad
gorilla turns around, all set to pimp walk out the door after punking out some stupid honkey, only to find someone
waiting behind him. If only you could have seen the change on this Ice Cube looking bastard’s face!! Gangsta to pale
face in 0,5 seconds!! Now compare this to a situation a black co-worker told me about. It involved a troop of our
esteemed equals, a whigger, and a pair of race mixing sluts, one of which was supposedly a Turk. One of these
‘groids was keeping his whores in check. The whigger runs out and starts acting up. The jew that runs the bar tries to
prevent a fight by sending the whigger back in side. As the pimp ‘groid is heading to his car to leave, the whigger
runs out and tries to jump the pimp. The whigger’s groid buddies are supposedly trying to hold him back when the
pimp comes back and knocks the whigger out cold and then drives off before the MP’s show up. Now, had I been
witness to such goings on would I have helped the whigger? I doubt it. I think we should pay attention to what goes
on before we act. I’ve faced a few threatening situations but so far none have ever ended in violence. As for the
invaders and their languages, I live in a small German town of roughly 18,000 population. Over the last ten years,
things have gotten so bad that there are now whole blocks that you can walk through, in daylight anyhow, and not
hear a single word of German. Most of the other Americans that have been here for a long time do speak German.
Rounder
July 17th, 2005, 11:34 PM
Welcome to VNN Chass, and thanks for your eyewitness accounts of "negroes" in the military. You'll parden me though, if I'm not surprised they haven't changed since my Army retirement in 1979. Fact is they're the same everywhere - "negroes" acting like "negroes." Simple as that.
We have White men acting like White men on this forum, btw. Check out our ACTIVISM forum. Especially the ARYAN ALTERNATIVE newspaper thread. VNN now has about 200 White men AND women supporting our ACTIVISM projects. Hope you'll consider joining with us.
And do share with us, more of your insights and experiences as regards the U.S. military in Germany. I was stationed in Wiesbaden and Baumholder (1959-61). Other VNN'ers served in Germany as well, and would be most interested, as would I.
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