Woe to you, ye perverted in heart, who are watchful to obtain an accurate knowledge of evil, and to discover terrors. No one shall assist you.”

The Book of Enoch
Chapter XCIX: 6

[1]: “A conspiracy may be a continuing one; actors may drop out, and others drop in; the details of operation may change from time to time; the members need not know each other or the part played by others; a member need not know all the details of the plan or the operations; he must, however, know the purpose of the conspiracy and agree to become a party to effectuate that purpose [i.e. Zionism, ed.].”

Craig v. U.S., C.C.A.Cal., 81 F.2d 816, 822
Black's Law Dictionary

[2]: The evidence is sufficient for indictment. What we are speaking about is a conspiracy for world power, to betray nations into bondage, to deprive peoples of their homelands and amalgamate the races of mankind into a mindless, cultureless global proletariat. We are to become the dispossessed “aliens” who toil in the fields to serve our lords and masters.

[3]: That “The Great Work” is attending -- in the role of physician or midwife -- to the millennial birth of a “New Age”, the “Aeon of Horus”; that it encompasses the full spectrum of beliefs from Transcendentalism (man is God) to the science of human husbandry (man is material), dialectical extremes that revolve about the question, “Does Man have a soul?” He-Khabbalot is the driving force behind the global effort to manipulate humanity to fit into a perfect terrestial mold.

[4]: There is a transcendental aspect to the existence of the “Secret Chiefs”. Aleister Crowley spent the greater part of his life trying to establish that there does exist preterhuman intelligence of a higher dimension (i.e. beyond the Abyss) that may be summoned and which will communicate. Crowley swears that he did just that, and yet he does not betray the identity of the “Secret Chiefs”, the critical element in his proof next to Aiwass itself.

[5] The effects of this are difficult to understand without an underlying knowledge of Kabbalah. The reader is left to investigate this subject on his own. It does not suffice to say that the Kabbalah is merely a technical manual on religion. There is also the element of a transcendent intelligence.


http://web.archive.org/web/20010303014600/myweb.servtech.com/~grugyn/bk2a-9wl.htm

I have always looked more to the nature of the races than to conspiracy. I have never believed in one enormous conspiracy, stretching across generations -- a conspiracy needs to be short-lived, much shorter than the generation of the founders, and it must be focused on a specific task, in order to be successful. To maintain a conspiracy around the creed "Let's take what we can for ourselves" is difficult, it will run out of steam. And there's always the risk of someone quitting and blowing the whistle.

I do however believe in small, short conspiracies, thousands of them. Whenever a group of media bosses meet at a cocktail party and one of them says "That racist fellow with his organization is spouting nonsense, it's best to ignore him," and the others agree, then that's a conspiracy. And whenever the ADL calls a local police commissioner and he promises he'll see what he can do to find a way to harrass their target of the day, then that's a conspiracy.

The Jews' racial instinct is the driving force. The conspiracies come later, just a part of the many actions they take against us.

I have never believed in one enormous conspiracy, stretching across generations -- You don't believe in the Talmud?

You don't believe in the Talmud?

That's not a conspiracy, that's a supremacist religion. You think that's what makes the Jews what they are? No. It's what the Jews are that has shaped the Talmud, not the other way around. It's in their biology, their genes, to cooperate against outsiders.

Campaigning from 1880 to 1965 to have immigration laws changed in their favor, was genetic?

I will have to repeat my first post. The Jewish nature is heavily nationalist, causing them to cooperate in a number of ways, sometimes in conspiracies. But that doesn't mean there's one big, eternal conspiracy that explains all their behavior.

And no, no Big Jewish Conspiracy theory is needed to explain the consensus among most Jews in the immigration question. If they all met in secret chambers about it, why would they also be discussing it in their magazines, which can be bought by anyone?

One reason is chutzpah.

999, to be clear on this, do you believe there is a secret conspiracy that involves all the Jews of the world?

The general situation is thus:

Jews will from time to time take up sides or even create opposing factions(e.g. neocons and "progressives"), and in many cases their beliefs for either side are genuine. However, they will always ensure that whatever ideology they are following holds a special place for Jews, which is why they will always use anti-Semitism or "Nazi" labels against their enemy regardless of what side they're on. They will always insist that Holocaust denial or anti-Jewish feelings or statements are among the highest sins in existence. Furthermore, whether a Jew is a serious liberal or serious neocon is irrelevent- in both cases what we have is a foreigner of a vastly alien mindset and viewpoint on morality intentionally fragmenting our society and turning large sections of our populace against each other.

I have seen stories on Artificial Intelligence experiments in which robots are programmed to collect objects and move them to a certain place. Even though the robots do not communicate with each other, the end result is that all objects are collected in the designated location. Now imagine the conspiracy possibilities if the robots could communicate and coordinate their actions. Now let us assume that jews are “programmed”, either genetically and/or through their religion, to only do that which is “good for jews”. Would not the end effect, intentional or not, of their COLLECTIVE behavior result in conditions that are bad for Whites? I believe this is how jews can wail night and day that the Protocols are a “forgery” and yet the predictive and explanatory nature of the Protocols is crystal clear to Gentiles regardless of race.

Chass, I just PMed you. I see you haven't noticed it yet.

I have seen stories on Artificial Intelligence experiments in which robots are programmed to collect objects and move them to a certain place. Even though the robots do not communicate with each other, the end result is that all objects are collected in the designated location. Now imagine the conspiracy possibilities if the robots could communicate and coordinate their actions. Now let us assume that jews are “programmed”, either genetically and/or through their religion, to only do that which is “good for jews”. Would not the end effect, intentional or not, of their COLLECTIVE behavior result in conditions that are bad for Whites? I believe this is how jews can wail night and day that the Protocols are a “forgery” and yet the predictive and explanatory nature of the Protocols is crystal clear to Gentiles regardless of race.

Exactly. It's nationalism, their behavior: nationalism combined with neurosis and paranoia.

I can imagine that in the German-Roman Empire, if you were a minority of Protestants living in a predominantly Catholic town or vice versa, you would cooperate somewhat in the same fashion, though not as strongly.

We can also look at the European Empires of the Renaissance and onward. There were often wars between them, a lot of infighting, and they competed for territory, but it went without saying that there was a wall between them and non-Whites. You didn't sell European cannon to a non-White country, you just didn't.

Now, Whites are the least nationalistic race, and this system didn't hold forever. But if the least nationalic race could do that, without an outspoken conspiracy of any kind, then it's no wonder Jews can do the same.

There's a series of novels I read in my teens (okay, and in my early twenties) about clans of vampires that control the world from the shadows. These clans have different outlooks on life and are always at each other's throats, but their outlooks, though resembling some human ideologies, are all alien to human thinking; they are conservatism and communism and anarchism and so on, but in a corrupted vampire form, with vampiric interests in mind. Though they may find it useful to use mortals that slightly resemble themselves in their power games, those mortals and their affairs are only corrupted by the vampiric presence. And it's a given that the vampires stick together against the mortals when it really counts. If a clan would be unmasked and lose power in one city, then that would be a threat to all of them. I sometimes think of those novels when I think of the Jews, they are a great description of silent cooperation without conspiracy.

Genetic predisposition causes outbreaks of conspiracy. Well poisoners should not be excused "because it's part of their nature".

Noone is excusing them. We all want them dead. But are they really "guilty"? No more than the White tribes of ages past, who conquered non-Whites in India and the countries that would later be called Persian and Arab. No more than the European Empires that conquered the world. No more than the tiger that kills its prey. It is in our nature to take territory and resources and power from other tribes, other peoples, other races, other species. Because those who haven't done so, haven't survived to pass on their genes.

I am disgusted by the Jews, and I hate them. Like Rockwell said, it is not only natural to hate them, it's our goddamned duty. But I still understand where their behavior comes from. No matter: kill them I say, and we can debate if they were sinners or not after they're dead and burned to cinders.

While we're at it: isn't it fascinating to think that far into the future, our descendants will look back at this dark age dispassionately? It will be just one other history test to them. Like the Mongols, who killed 12 million Chinese, innumerable others, and tried to take over the whole world. When Genghis Khan started out his intention was to kill every non-Mongol in the world. Today, we aren't bothered in the least by that. Just like a thousand years from now the Whites won't be bothered by the memory of the strange race called Jews.

How lucky they will be.

I have seen stories on Artificial Intelligence experiments in which robots are programmed to collect objects and move them to a certain place. Even though the robots do not communicate with each other, the end result is that all objects are collected in the designated location. Now imagine the conspiracy possibilities if the robots could communicate and coordinate their actions. Now let us assume that jews are “programmed”, either genetically and/or through their religion, to only do that which is “good for jews”. Would not the end effect, intentional or not, of their COLLECTIVE behavior result in conditions that are bad for Whites? I believe this is how jews can wail night and day that the Protocols are a “forgery” and yet the predictive and explanatory nature of the Protocols is crystal clear to Gentiles regardless of race.

Well said. And if I have not said welcome, I say it now!

Thanks for the welcome Rounder,Chain, & AE. I was reading through this thread and the robot story and similar things I've read came to mind. I think the impression the jews try to make in the minds of those WN's often term Lemmings is that any talk of a conspiracy is automatically some X-Files or Arlington Road nonsense that instantly discredits the messenger. The reality is that even the least complex behavioral systems present a model for what is meant by jewish conspiracy.

I don’t want to hog this thread, but I think we may be on to something here. I could not get this line of thought out of my head at all today. Think for minute that someone may come here after checking out Chain’s Lindsay Bonistal reporting. I think the casual reader, under the influence of the jewish media, will be expecting posts like “Agent Scully arrests Grassy Knoll gunman in Kansas Burger King after 12 hour stand off.” I hope this thread does not degenerate into such silliness but that we can use it to clear the jewish stereotype from their minds and present solid evidence of what is meant by, for example, jewish control of the media.

I can work with the definition of conspiracy in the first post. It seems to me that the definition of criminal conspiracy involves two or more people planning to do something illegal. As can be inferred from my post about AI experiments,
conspiratorial behavior can occur even if there is no coordinated plan. Individuals following a common goal need not coordinate with each other to have the same effect as a well plotted action; simply because the common goal is the “plot”; whether it be four robots individually programmed to round up basketballs or newspaper editors who feel that the race of criminals not be reported in their papers. Now, factor in a “true” conspiracy wherein newspaper editors communicate with each other and coordinate editorial policy to discredit a man who writes LTEs asking, for example,
why the race of criminals is not revealed to the general public when FBI statistic indicate that Blacks commit violent crime at disproportionate rates. If one researches the players in this little conspiracy, one discovers that the majority of those responsible are jews! This is true from the whole concept of racial integration down to the owners and/or editorial staff of many of the newspapers involved. Here we have a nation wide group of editors who frame their printing of “racist” LTEs on the grounds that it is a public service to inform the general public about “hate” (ignoring the writer’s First Amendment right to free expression of his political point of view) while not informing the general public of the far greater danger of Negro criminality. (The Black on White crime rate stands at over one million incidents annually.) This is what we mean by the “jewish conspiracy” in media control. These examples are well
documented and can be found in stories linked to from the VNN main page as well as Rounder’s LTE thread. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Matt Hale is doing 40 years for “conspiring” to harm a judge who had previously
sympathized with his trademark case based on far more questionable evidence. Contrast that “conspiracy” with the “tip of the iceberg” examples of jewish media conspiracy above. Think for a minute of how many barkeepers have been charged with criminal negligence for serving one to many drinks to someone involved in a DUI. I am not certain, but I’ll wager the odds of your becoming a victim of Colored on White crime is much higher than the odds of falling victim to a DUI. Over the last 4 days or so VNN has linked to stories in which at least 6 Whites have been killed by criminal Negroes and one story wherein two reporters were fired for disagreeing with an editorial conspiracy to keep the race of criminals out of the news. Does anyone reading this really believe that some editor’s fear of lowering Black self-esteem because reporting the race of criminals might cause White readers to “stereotype” (i.e. “profile”) them justifies the deaths of those six Whites, including a 9 year old girl??? This is what we mean by “conspiracy” and the results in the real world are fatal!! For anyone coming here from the Bonistal reports, I ask you to consider these points : If the general public had access to the facts on Negro criminality denied them by the media conspiracy, would SWF students move into integrated housing areas? If the general public was aware of the disproportionate number of jews involved in the media conspiracy, would parents send their kids to school to learn journalism from a jewish professor? The effect of this media conspiracy, intentional or not, is White Genocide and that is what we “haters” are fighting against. Remember Gentile reader, if some morning you wake up to find a TAA on your doorstep and watch as the local sheriff wastes taxpayer money to collect said perfectly legal newspaper, that you are one of the luckier victims of the predominately jewish media conspiracy. You could well have been awoken by a “oppressed Negro” or a “poor Immigrant, looking for a better life” and your loved ones would then be watching the local coroner collect your corpse.

I will have to repeat my first post. The Jewish nature is heavily nationalist, causing them to cooperate in a number of ways, sometimes in conspiracies. But that doesn't mean there's one big, eternal conspiracy that explains all their behavior.

And no, no Big Jewish Conspiracy theory is needed to explain the consensus among most Jews in the immigration question. If they all met in secret chambers about it, why would they also be discussing it in their magazines, which can be bought by anyone?

So are they just doing what ugly people with money and no taste do or is is just a genetic revolt against ordered and white society represents?

Indeed it seems genetic in that it has not rhyme or reason until one considers some grander scheme. How could one then blame a sucker fish for leeching off a whale?

Just what kind of weird bug are these so-called jews anyway?
Termite like? Spider like? Or jet merely some form of cancer? What genetic characteristic justifies their hateful actions towards their compassionate "hosts" over the centuries? I mean they never accomplished much outside of bizarre and cosmopolitan professions and financial scheming. They're not a people of the land, but a people of the mind.

Israel Shamir, Again
Apocalypse Now:http://shamir.mediamonitors.net/january312002.html

This is an extremely powerful piece by Mr. Shamir. Mr. Shamir, formerly of Russia and now 100% anti-Zionist and 100% anti-Jewry, diagnoses virtually all of the problems. What we call ZOG he terms "Mammonites". Like us he thinks Israel and the USA are ruled by the same group. I think this piece (and all of his writings) are worth extended study by leadership minded people. He catches and refracts all of the pre-revolutionary discontents of the non-Zionist left, the blightwing (these two groups are melting and some are fusing together now) and the emerging white wing. The authors cited (Sobran, 75% white man Raimondo, Kevin MacDonald) are the same ones read by all thinking components of the ZOG opposition. It's all there in his work, including anti-immigration and slams against the Limbaugh ditto heads (neo-cons).

This statement by Mr. Shamir comes ohso close to us:

"A man is connected by four ties to this world: he has roots in the native soil, he belongs to his family, his territorial community, and to God. While the ties survive, a man can not be enslaved."

Here's where (in our view) some chaff enters the oats: his territorial community. The West Bank is a territorial community. Oldham in non-Merry Olde England is a territorial community. Harare, Zimbabwe is a "territorial community". Where Mr. Shamir says "territorial community" we would say "extended family community", "extended racial community" or "nation". It's the old argument of biology vs. geography one more time. You cannot mix iron and clay and effectively oppose the Mammonites (ZOG). They themselves are mixing iron and clay with their unlimited immigration policies to break down all opposition to their program.

"Maguire"

So are they just doing what ugly people with money and no taste do or is is just a genetic revolt against ordered and white society represents?

Indeed it seems genetic in that it has not rhyme or reason until one considers some grander scheme. How could one then blame a sucker fish for leeching off a whale?

Maybe their behavior seems unique only because they are in a unique position: they are a race with a high IQ, mostly because of verbak skills that boost their IQ score, living as a minority among others. A minority will stick together, more often than not, and as that example with the infants shows, the Jews have a higher aversion toward other races than any other race. Now, a minority will want the majority to feel less kinship, less togetherness through race and religion and tradition. That is only natural, because that helps the minority to be accepted.

And because of their high IQ, they will achieve high positions. And because that higher IQ is the result of verbak skills, they will seek out high positions not in the army, not in the paper industry, not in iron mining, but in newspapers and politics and law and entertainment. Making them especially dangerous, because then they have a chance to affect others.

What I am saying is, if Gypsies or niggers or Latinos or Arabs or Turks or Asians had had the same high IQ due to verbal skills, while living among us as minorities, maybe they would have acted in the same way. Maybe it is only natural behavior in that particular position.

the unified conspiracy theory....um...
well, being raised an army brat, I was well warned on the evils of communism, I just add 'Marxist jew' to the term 'commie', seems to work. :D I think that jew and commie are one in the same. Try to pin point it or figure it out, well good luck with that. I spend my time trying to push the trends back to the right. Conserve our race. Be the rebel with a cause. Be white, be proud, and be square.

the unified conspiracy theory....um...
well, being raised an army brat, I was well warned on the evils of communism, I just add 'Marxist jew' to the term 'commie', seems to work. :D I think that jew and commie are one in the same. Try to pin point it or figure it out, well good luck with that. I spend my time trying to push the trends back to the right. Conserve our race. Be the rebel with a cause. Be white, be proud, and be square.

Right on! :cheers:

If you want a Unified Conspiracy Theory, check out this thread:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=21186

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml
(Best Historical Overview Yet-
Transcript of 1967 Recording)
[Editor's Note: The following is a transcript of a recording distributed in 1967 by Myron C. Fagan. He had hoped that if enough Americans had heard (or read) this summary, the Illuminati's plan to destroy America would have been aborted, just as Russia's Alexander I had torpedoed the Illuminati's plans for a One World, League of Nations at the Congress of Vienna from 1814-15. Fagan correctly describes those members of congress, the executive branch, and the judicial branch of that time as TRAITORS for their role in assisting to implement the downfall of America's sovereignty. It's understandable that most listeners of that period would have found it difficult to believe that the Kennedy's, for instance, were (are) part of the Illuminati plot, but he did say that Jack had a spiritual rebirth and attempted to rescue the country from the Illuminati's stranglehold by issuing US silver certificates, which apparently greatly contributed to the Illuminati's decision to assassinate him (his son, John Jr., was also murdered because he had intended to expose his father's killers after he gained public office).

Of course the jews and commies are the same. Have a look at the Soviet Union, at the creators of communism (Mark and Engels... both jews) the supporters of communsism in Russia (jews), the supporters of communism in the USA (jews). Of course the jews are at the center of communism, why? I do not know. But they seem to love it.