Gentlemen,
As we all know, it is not easy living in our Jewdified contemporary society.
As 'mainstream' society pushes the concept of female liberation and gender equality, the choices and concerns of healthy men become clouded,
Mixed messages for sure.

What we end up having are masculine women and feminized men.
The gender lines become even more blurred with the advent of the "metrosexual" - obviously just a fad pushed vehemently by the faggots, jews and feminists out there.
I know I'm preaching to the choir when I mention that it is not easy finding a quality young (or not so young) woman. I know some of us just want to fuck a bunch. Maybe others are out searching for Ms. Right and make a healthy White family.
Do some of you find it difficult when you finally meet a classy or quality woman when for so many years you are used to dealing with martini drinking, boot wearing, jaded young ladies with a hidden tattoo from their drunken spring break in Cancun?
Let's be honest, when dealing with the latter, you learn pretty quickly they are just good to get off with. You can't really be too nice with these types because then they cease respecting you and rule #1 with the females is this : if they do not respect you in some aspect, they don't want you for anything.

I'm currently dating a very nice young lady, wholesome, inexperienced, cute and with a bit of an old fashioned streak. This young lady went to Christian schools her whole life but does not seem too affected by that bullshit - she's pretty well adjusted.
She also does not dress and act like a bitch.
Kind of a plain jane type, but really cute.

Here's my issue: with the exception of maybe 1 other girl I've been involved with, every other girl I've dated I haven't really respected. I basically wanted to be the 'boyfriend' so I can have some physical intimacy.
I know that some may say I was 'in bondage' by playing the field and fucking a good bit of girls, but hey, what could I do? Young, healthy, warped by porn, cut me a break...ok, I was just using them, but I'm learning and pretty much over my 'party' stage.

So, this young lady currently in the picture is real nice. I'm treating her really great (you women would ne proud), I'm a real gentleman and very respectful around this one. However, I don't want to be too nice. It's imperative that I control the tempo and garner her respect (not to sound like I'm playing games).
Without any real details, let's just say everythign is going well, just very slow. We have bonded and have not gone past first base. I'm not pushing the envelope with this one.
When should I if at all?

And, I was so used to being with bitchy sluts that desired to be controlled and mistreated that I have to conciously make sure I'm 100% gentleman around this current young lady.
I noticed that treating women in this fashion made them respect me, however I don't want to do this to this nice young lady.

Any advice?
Thanks

All women want to be dominated. This does not mean hit them, ridicule them, or make them wear burqas. Its not easy to put into words....but dominate intelligently. Be a gentleman of course, but dont let yourself get whipped. Treat her with respect, but remember, as the man, all decisions rest on your shoulders, but dont be an ass about it, compromise. But yes, as far as Im concerned, the most vile insult a woman could say about me is "Im a nice guy". Do not be a nice guy. They finish last. I had a "nice guy" friend who spent months being "nice" to a woman, and got nowhere. I fucked her the second time I saw her. Because I'm not a nice guy, I won. Avoid being perceived as a weak pushover. I think you should just be a man. Dont overanalyze it. Without Judaic tampering, the natural process works fine by itself. Youll do fine!

I understand what you mean, Black Mage. Women want to be dominated -- they want to find a man who is strong and can guide them safely. Observe! (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010927)

Or as Alex Linder put it once: what women look for in a man is first of all a steady hand and a steady eye.

More can be learned about this by the spifferific advice at http://www.sosuave.com where you get a few pointers about how to swoon the femmes. Basically, the right attitude to display in a bar is: "I have lots of girls that I could call, so if you say no to me now it doesn't bother me one bit, but hey, if you want to have a drink and chat it would be a nice way to pass time for both of us."

Derrick Beukeboom: how on earth did you end up with that last name? :)

Push the envelope, it sounds like the young lady wants it. My advice is to invite her over and put her in a couch with lots of candles around you both, give her red wine to drink, listen to a CD with Sarah McLachlan (I have done this too many times, I'm starting to know the lyrics to Fumbling Toward Ecstacy), and sit next to her in the couch. Even a girl who is nervous when it comes to men will relax in this atmosphere, and boinking her after enough buildup will make her feel that it was a good experience, and not wrong at all.

If you want to add food, I suggest avocados and crabfish. Everybody likes crabfish.

Having sex with a girl shouldn't be something "low," something that is seen as giving up serenity -- sex in a respectful way is only a continuation of a good relationship, a fulfillment of it. Really, it is all this "sexual liberation" that has dirtied sex and made it a worse experience for all. A true nationalist will know how to make sex natural and good again.

I know that some may say I was 'in bondage' by playing the field and fucking a good bit of girls, but hey, what could I do? Young, healthy, warped by porn, cut me a break...ok, I was just using them, but I'm learning and pretty much over my 'party' stage.

Hey, perfectly understandable. But it shouldn't make you disrespect women -- you should have remembered at all times that there are different kinds of women.

Slip her a roofie. That simple. You'll be layin' pole in no time.

What if she was your daughter? What about getting married?
Tell me, what is the difference between jews and you guys?

Gabrielle,
Why the fuck are you on here?
Go back to spermfront so you can talk homemaking with the other feminists bitches on there or crack the whip with the emasculated pussy wipped punks who worship you great baby making white warrior women.

The shit you bitches pulled on spunkfront to any self respecting man who doesn't bow down to your feet was is actually funny.

It's actually more funny to see the steady trickle of spermfront's members, both bitch and feminized men make their way on to the VNN site.
All we need now is uber and the other male hating bitches.

So, stay out of this debate since you have fuck all to add.
Thank you.

Derrick, I see by your correct response to the Gabrielle that you have wisdom beyond your years. Censorville, meekness -- a Jedi craves not these things. I judge that any girl in your presence should be happy to have you as her suitor. Send me a pm if you require instructions on how to best prepare crabfish. :cool:

Gabrielle,
Why the fuck are you on here?
Go back to spermfront so you can talk homemaking with the other feminists bitches on there or crack the whip with the emasculated pussy wipped punks who worship you great baby making white warrior women.

The shit you bitches pulled on spunkfront to any self respecting man who doesn't bow down to your feet was is actually funny.

It's actually more funny to see the steady trickle of spermfront's members, both bitch and feminized men make their way on to the VNN site.
All we need now is uber and the other male hating bitches.

So, stay out of this debate since you have fuck all to add.
Thank you.

I suggest you watch your mouth, Derrick.

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Ahh, the feminist mind in action! The socialist mind! The weak mind! To immediately silence criticism whenever possible, instead of allowing an open debate. If the Gabrielle had any say in it, people would be banned for opposing the feminist insanity.

Ahh, the feminist mind in action! The socialist mind! The weak mind! To immediately silence criticism whenever possible, instead of allowing an open debate. If the Gabrielle had any say in it, people would be banned for opposing the feminist insanity.

If you don't like Mr.Linder's rules - you can always go some place else!
I think they are just and fair!

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If you don't like Mr.Linder's rules - you can always go some place else!
I think they are just and fair!

*LOL* They are fair! Even to the point of letting a nutcase post, uncensored, about her desire to censor those who disagree with her.

If you don't like Mr.Linder's rules - you can always go some place else!
I think they are just and fair!

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Oh god Gabrielle shut the fuck up. All the women in the movement are a joke, there just ugly feminist-cunts without a fucking life. Go back to your hellhole in Stormfront and go bitch to the other feminized pussy white men and women.

Gabrielle,
You are such a stupid cunt.
My, what on earth are you going to do to me?

Take your feminism, censorship and warped jew ideals and go back to your beloved spermfront.

You and your girls are amazing - you were always so willling to rail aganist the VNN and Alex Linder and now you are all coming on here like coackroaches thinking you can tell us what to say.

Fuck off you dumb bitch!
This is the last contact I want to have with you.
Your a piece of dirt.
Go home to spermfront.

Now, if we can continue on this debate, I think we all agree that its important to always be the boss and lead a woman. That is of course what they want and need.
I'm inclined to think that those that say differently are just testing a man - often unconsciously. They must see what your made of, see if you are a good suitor.
Fredrik, thank you. I have always had impeccable manners around quality ladies. So, I know how to treat them and provide positive leadership and guidance.

As for the many sluts and bitches out there, well, I treat them like they deserve to be treated as well. Yet, they bore me with their incesscent self centeredness and cynicism. Often these sorts are unitelligent and too easily manipulated by the jew dogma of women's lib and gender equality.
Come on guys, how many bitches can one fuck before you desire more?

So, when/if you do meet that special someone, it can be difficult switching gears and treat them well, while of course remaining in control.
Please feel free to shair more examples of dealings with nice young quality ladies since we all know how to treat the sluts of the world.

Gabrielle,
You are such a stupid cunt.
My, what on earth are you going to do to me?

Take your feminism, censorship and warped jew ideals and go back to your beloved spermfront.

You and your girls are amazing - you were always so willling to rail aganist the VNN and Alex Linder and now you are all coming on here like coackroaches thinking you can tell us what to say.

Fuck off you dumb bitch!
This is the last contact I want to have with you.
Your a piece of dirt.
Go home to spermfront.

Now, if we can continue on this debate, I think we all agree that its important to always be the boss and lead a woman. That is of course what they want and need.
I'm inclined to think that those that say differently are just testing a man - often unconsciously. They must see what your made of, see if you are a good suitor.
Fredrik, thank you. I have always had impeccable manners around quality ladies. So, I know how to treat them and provide positive leadership and guidance.

As for the many sluts and bitches out there, well, I treat them like they deserve to be treated as well. Yet, they bore me with their incesscent self centeredness and cynicism. Often these sorts are unitelligent and too easily manipulated by the jew dogma of women's lib and gender equality.
Come on guys, how many bitches can one fuck before you desire more?

So, when/if you do meet that special someone, it can be difficult switching gears and treat them well, while of course remaining in control.
Please feel free to shair more examples of dealings with nice young quality ladies since we all know how to treat the sluts of the world.


Derrick Beukeboom, you talk to me like that again, and I am putting in a complaint.

Derrick Beukeboom, you talk to me like that again, and I am putting in a complaint.

Let me make sure I understand this. You come in here, with expectations that the men here will kiss your crazy ass because youre a woman, and when you dont get that, but get treatment as you deserve for inflammatory posts, you, like a typical femidyke, cry and moan, in this case to Linder, a man you've repeatedly insulted on SF. Why don't you just pray to YAHWEH..leave him an offering of shekels and matzo balls, and pray for us heathens and atheists...being the #1 enemy of the white race, and let him take care of it? Oh thats right. Yahweh is about as real as a heterosexual San Franciscan. Got your hopes up for nothing. Oh well.

By the way,

Why come to a forum where no one likes you? I bet you like to be dominated and humiliated, you like S&M? Your trailer a mobile S&M dungeon? :eek:

Let me make sure I understand this. You come in here, with expectations that the men here will kiss your crazy ass because youre a woman, and when you dont get that, but get treatment as you deserve for inflammatory posts, you, like a typical femidyke, cry and moan, in this case to Linder, a man you've repeatedly insulted on SF. Why don't you just pray to YAHWEH..leave him an offering of shekels and matzo balls, and pray for us heathens and atheists...being the #1 enemy of the white race, and let him take care of it? Oh thats right. Yahweh is about as real as a heterosexual San Franciscan. Got your hopes up for nothing. Oh well.

By the way,

Why come to a forum where no one likes you? I bet you like to be dominated and humiliated, you like S&M? Your trailer a mobile S&M dungeon? :eek:


Draco, I never expected anything from ANYONE, except to abide by the white, reasonable rules to which we all agreed.
If you will notice, I have not even bothered to discuss religion with anyone here, as I have tried it before, and found that it was a fruitless task.
Someone who posts here – one of the few, who are very nice people, invited me back to VNN.

You claimed I insulted Mr. Linder at SF – I am calling you a liar. Prove that I ‘repeatedly insulted Mr. Linder’, or admit that your accusation was false...

You are an evil troll, Draco!

I would like to go to SF and find those old threads, but, alas, SF is currently broken. When I can get them, I'll post them. You and Uber were the two main VNN-bashers, I remember this clearly. Proving ANYTHING to a CI mental patient is a tiring and pointless task. Xtianity breeds a level of determined ignorance the likes of which I just dont have the patience to deal with. As for being evil, LOL! You get that from a George Bush speech? That guy sounds like he gets his speeches from comic books. "Evildoers must die!". Then again, Bush, like a typical Xtian, is a former drug addict, a failure in life, and very unintelligent. Why does xtianity attract so many defects? The rapists, the wife beaters, the drunks, the druggies, the con-artists, the homeless, and TONS of non-whites, why do they all flock to Jeebus? Because its a religion which seeks to elevate the trash to a level of supremacy. So you are the evil troll. Guilt by association is an xtian virtue is it not?

Oh, you never answered my S&M question.


Draco, I never expected anything from ANYONE, except to abide by the white, reasonable rules to which we all agreed.
If you will notice, I have not even bothered to discuss religion with anyone here, as I have tried it before, and found that it was a fruitless task.
Someone who posts here – one of the few, who are very nice people, invited me back to VNN.

You claimed I insulted Mr. Linder at SF – I am calling you a liar. Prove that I ‘repeatedly insulted Mr. Linder’, or admit that your accusation was false...

You are an evil troll, Draco!

I would like to go to SF and find those old threads, but, alas, SF is currently broken. When I can get them, I'll post them. You and Uber were the two main VNN-bashers, I remember this clearly. Proving ANYTHING to a CI mental patient is a tiring and pointless task. Xtianity breeds a level of determined ignorance the likes of which I just dont have the patience to deal with. As for being evil, LOL! You get that from a George Bush speech? That guy sounds like he gets his speeches from comic books. "Evildoers must die!". Then again, Bush, like a typical Xtian, is a former drug addict, a failure in life, and very unintelligent. Why does xtianity attract so many defects? The rapists, the wife beaters, the drunks, the druggies, the con-artists, the homeless, and TONS of non-whites, why do they all flock to Jeebus? Because its a religion which seeks to elevate the trash to a level of supremacy. So you are the evil troll. Guilt by association is an xtian virtue is it not?

Oh, you never answered my S&M question.


We shall see, little black troll. You are, indeed, a very evil troll!

We shall see, little black troll. You are, indeed, a very evil troll!

A typically intelligent post from you Gabs. No substance, no brain power, no anything. Just sick, vile hatred typical of the Jew that you worship. Youre actually getting boring. It was more fun laughing at you when you let that REAL ChristianIdentity insanity SHINE FORTH LIKE A BEACON FROM JEEBUS! You know you want to convert or kill us Gabs. You know it literally IRKS you to have atheists and Pagans putting you in your place. Come on. Give in to that Christian ignorant angry fanatic inside you. Let it out. Show us what a liberal Rabbi nailed to a stick serving as a dartbord for Pagan soldiers can do!

A typically intelligent post from you Gabs. No substance, no brain power, no anything. Just sick, vile hatred typical of the Jew that you worship. Youre actually getting boring. It was more fun laughing at you when you let that REAL ChristianIdentity insanity SHINE FORTH LIKE A BEACON FROM JEEBUS! You know you want to convert or kill us Gabs. You know it literally IRKS you to have atheists and Pagans putting you in your place. Come on. Give in to that Christian ignorant angry fanatic inside you. Let it out. Show us what a liberal Rabbi nailed to a stick serving as a dartbord for Pagan soldiers can do!

Go away... little black troll...

Hello Gabrielle,

You hold your own very well. ;)

Exactly Derrick – what a masculine ID that is too, symbolic of manly, erect towers spewing their dark, oily load into the sky. Cut off contact with her, Derrick – deny her what she wants, refocus on bonding with your fellow Aryan strongmen. Think of the Spartan model of intense, exclusively male camaraderie – completely healthy, itz!

Women want to be dominated – they don’t respect a weak man, and they test them all the time. Ask Elizabeth Bennett – now she falls at the feet of that Aryan Barbarian Erich Gliebe, despite her circumcision fetish (Eric is cut -- I've followed his career, and I can vouch for that). She can tell you what all women want. Be strong, don’t be dissuaded – that restraining order is just her playing hard to get, trust me, I know firsthand.

Pay no attention to the uppity women like Gabrielle, with their constant quoting of our own rules and their perfect grammar and spelling. They have no concept of the homo-centric nature of the universe, never realizing they are but planets gravitationally pulled to our gigantic, hot, throbbing suns (“hic”). They can’t even give head as well as a man can, the dumb sluts.

You must be tender, always the leader, always in manly control, just as I am when I give granny her enema and sponge bath. In fact, it’s time for me to warm up her baby food now. I’m the one in control, I make the decision to taste it for her first to make certain it’s not too warm or cold. By the way, gentlemen, don’t overlook the charms of the older woman. They’re traditional, usually grateful, can financially support you, and their dentures slide out to make it much easier for them to accept your large, throbbing member.
This is the funniest thing I ever read.
lololololololololol

Hello Gabrielle,

You hold your own very well. ;)

Hello imadrifter,
Thank you and welcome to VNN.:)

You have already gotten good advice from Draco and Fredrik. You are not a Stormfront "man", so you are already well aware that taking advice from feminists is absolutely worthless. So many of those guys can't get a date and then listen to the FEMINISTS for advice. Those chumps obviously have no success after a little more brainwashing. I'll second the advice (for THOSE guys) that they need to take a look at http://www.sosuave.com. It is for the literally clueless and your average young Stormfront guy over there seems to fit that demographic really well. You know this, so enough of that tangent.

You don't have to be a total bastard to remain in control. The sluts deserve the worst you can give him. You like this girl, so just act like a man: be the dominant one in the relationship. So you have to ask yourself, where do you want things to go? Sure, try to find out what she believes regarding sex, love and marriage. A lot of girls around here want to wait until marriage, so you have to decide if you can persuade her otherwise or just wait yourself. :) If the answer is no to both, you will have to find someone else. How long have you been seeing her anyway?

Go away... little black troll...

Considering Draco actually replied to Derrick with good advice and you came on and starting calling people "jews", who is the troll around here? It might be hard not having John Joytree around to ban and censor dissent. You're just shit out of luck this time, Gabrielle. You go complain and we will see what happens.

Gabrielle, you say that you are Christian Identity. How exactly do you justify your belief in feminism? I think it's time for an attitude adjustment. When this happens, you can go back to Stormfront and harrass the other feminists there. Deal?

Ephesians 5:22-24
22: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23: For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24: Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13: For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15: Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Colossians 3:18

18: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.


Now go give 'em Hell on Stormfront!

Funny analysis, here:

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

Or as the old Schop put it:

"But in the West, the woman, and especially the lady, finds herself in a false position; for woman, rightly called by the ancients, sexus sequior, is by no means fit to be the object of our honor and veneration, or to hold her head higher than man and be on equal terms with him. The consequences of this false position are sufficiently obvious. Accordingly, it would be a very desirable thing if this Number-Two of the human race were in Europe also relegated to her natural place, and an end put to that lady nuisance, which not only moves all Asia to laughter, but would have been ridiculed by Greece and Rome as well. It is impossible to calculate the good effects which such a change would bring about in our social, civil and political arrangements. There would be no necessity for the Salic law: it would be a superfluous truism. In Europe the lady, strictly so-called, is a being who should not exist at all; she should be either a housewife or a girl who hopes to become one; and she should be brought up, not to be arrogant, but to be thrifty and submissive. It is just because there are such people as ladies in Europe that the women of the lower classes, that is to say, the great majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East. And even Lord Byron says: Thought of the state of women under the ancient Greeks -- convenient enough. Present state, a remnant of the barbarism of the chivalric and the feudal ages -- artificial and unnatural. They ought to mind home -- and be well fed and clothed -- but not mixed in society. Well educated, too, in religion -- but to read neither poetry nor politics -- nothing but books of piety and cookery. Music -- drawing -- dancing -- also a little gardening and ploughing now and then. I have seen them mending the roads in Epirus with good success. Why not, as well as hay-making and milking?

The laws of marriage prevailing in Europe consider the woman as the equivalent of the man -- start, that is to say, from a wrong position. In our part of the world where monogamy is the rule, to marry means to halve one's rights and double one's duties. Now, when the laws gave women equal rights with man, they ought to have also endowed her with a masculine intellect. But the fact is, that just in proportion as the honors and privileges which the laws accord to women, exceed the amount which nature gives, is there a diminution in the number of women who really participate in these privileges; and all the remainder are deprived of their natural rights by just so much as is given to the others over and above their share. For the institution of monogamy, and the laws of marriage which it entails, bestow upon the woman an unnatural position of privilege, by considering her throughout as the full equivalent of the man, which is by no means the case; and seeing this, men who are shrewd and prudent very often scruple to make so great a sacrifice and to acquiesce in to unfair an arrangement."



http://www.geocities.com/c_ansata/Women.html

Gabrielle, you say that you are Christian Identity. How exactly do you justify your belief in feminism? I think it's time for an attitude adjustment. When this happens, you can go back to Stormfront and harrass the other feminists there. Deal?

Ephesians 5:22-24
22: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23: For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24: Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13: For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15: Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Colossians 3:18

18: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.


Now go give 'em Hell on Stormfront!


Moronski, this is a message board - not a church or a husband. I agreed to the rules and I am upholding them. I will post the rules (agreement) below for you.

By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

TylerD, Derrick came exactly where he should come for advice on women -- not to the women, but to the manly men of VNN Forum. Being among the women is like being around a warm fire – it’s pleasant, warm, comforting, but it causes a man’s thoughts to blur. Once in awhile a man needs to step outside into the cold air of logic, to clear his thoughts and smoke a cigar with his fellow men.

And, quite right, we should guide ourselves by the marital/gender laws of the Juden, just as we should indulge our manly lust in enjoying their pornography of our big-titted White women spread-legged and gaping before us. In fact, I have a nice one, butt up, spread and subservient on the screen in front of me right now – feel free to come join me in granny’s basement so we can enjoy her together, in healthy manly bonding.

P.S. Fredrik, can you please post your recipe for “crabfish” for granny? Maybe I can put it in the blender so I can spoon feed it to her – I think she’d love it.

Great post! :p

Gabrielle, are you going to answer Tyler D's question? How do you combine your feminism with the passages from Holy Scripture that Tyler D shows us? Do you consider those passages to be a message from God that should be obeyed, or should they be disobeyed?

Just hit ignore when it comes to the vnnclosetfag and gabrielle, as well as modib.
Too many trouble makers are about this forum right now. Ignore them for awhile and then, we all can talk intelligently.

This forum is chock full of morons right now, but they'll be gone soon.

Derrick, is there an ignore button available on this forum? I've looked and looked for ways to make certain people invisible. Please share the location of the golden 'ignore' button with those of us who are suffering needlessly.


Yes there is a way. Go to your user cd, then click buddy/ignore list and add any names you want to it.

Yes there is a way. Go to your user cd, then click buddy/ignore list and add any names you want to it.


User cp, sorry

Gott, thank you very much. If those feminist and/or Identity kooks persist in interrupting the orderly flow of ideas in this forum, I am going to promote a mass "ignore" campaign.


OK, I'll go for it - I put two ignore on so far and man, does it feel good. I still think gas chambers would be better though :)

So, you're offended, White man? You should be! But go ahead, put your head in the sand, click the Ignore button in the back of your head, reach for another Bud, and self-medicate in front of your Televitz with the other lemmings.

VNN is the only WN Internet forum with absolutely no censorship. We not only allow but encourage the posting by Jews, Nigs, Kikes, White trash, homos, mental defectives, the socially-maladjusted and terminally loser. If we didn't, we'd have absolutely no readership or posters.

Excuse me -- granny just crapped her Depends, dammit.


Despite pretty good writing skills - you got real tired, real fast. The person you think you're trashing is working - while you go around the same stupid block for what, the 20th time here? Must be very little in your life if this is the best you can come up with.
And now, back on ignore, but this time for good.

Derrick, is there an ignore button available on this forum? I've looked and looked for ways to make certain people invisible. Please share the location of the golden 'ignore' button with those of us who are suffering needlessly.

Hit the profile button at the bottom of the post of whoever you want to ignore.

You know, the ingratitude amazes me. I give up a successful career as American Spectator gofer, move out to Missouri to live with my grandparents, start the largest WN online medium in the entire Midwest, and you bust my balls right here on my own God-damned forum. Of course I’m always here – I’ve dedicated my life to VNN, which is why I can’t hold down a full-time job (except, of course, for taking care of granny). VNN IZ my life!

Full White First Amendment media, itz!

Jude, if free speech is too heavy for your button down mind, go take your Jewspeak to someone else's pad, us Aryan Brothers are havin a jam and you're too square to hang.

Moronski, this is a message board - not a church or a husband. I agreed to the rules and I am upholding them. I will post the rules (agreement) below for you.

By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.Quote:

1 Timothy 2:11-15

11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13: For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15: Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see anything in Timothy that mentions message boards, husbands or churches. The Bible is not about picking and choosing which scriptures or passages one will or will not obey.

If you are a Christian female as you say, I suggest a more subtle approach.

"But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your heart, do not boast and lie against the truth." James: 3:14

Quote:

1 Timothy 2:11-15

11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13: For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15: Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see anything in Timothy that mentions message boards, husbands or churches. The Bible is not about picking and choosing which scriptures or passages one will or will not obey.

If you are a Christian female as you say, I suggest a more subtle approach.

"But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your heart, do not boast and lie against the truth." James: 3:14


I have made it quite clear, that I have no attention of discussing religion on this forum with anyone, at least twice already!
This is a message board and I have always upheld the rules, which I agreed to. I wish I could say the same about others – but a man is only as good as his word.

Do some of you find it difficult when you finally meet a classy or quality woman when for so many years you are used to dealing with martini drinking, boot wearing, jaded young ladies with a hidden tattoo from their drunken spring break in Cancun?
Let's be honest, when dealing with the latter, you learn pretty quickly they are just good to get off with. You can't really be too nice with these types because then they cease respecting you and rule #1 with the females is this : if they do not respect you in some aspect, they don't want you for anything.

I'm currently dating a very nice young lady, wholesome, inexperienced, cute and with a bit of an old fashioned streak. This young lady went to Christian schools her whole life but does not seem too affected by that bullshit - she's pretty well adjusted.
She also does not dress and act like a bitch.
Kind of a plain jane type, but really cute.
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When should I if at all?

And, I was so used to being with bitchy sluts that desired to be controlled and mistreated that I have to conciously make sure I'm 100% gentleman around this current young lady.
I noticed that treating women in this fashion made them respect me, however I don't want to do this to this nice young lady.

Any advice?
Thanks

Sorry ! - what was the question again ???? - You claim to understand that most modern females is nothing but a bunch of slutz (like teen idol Slutney Sperms) - and yet you even have to ask to understand the obvious.....
The obvious is that if you find such a "gem" you ofcourse should treat her "right" and if you do not understand this and merely wishes your sexual desires fulfilled (making you no better than the slutz) then I think you should find yourself a slut and join in your most unholy communion.
A really decent female most certainly deserves a really DECENT behaviour from any "suitors" . (Decent as in the classsical sense of decent behaviour towards females)


What if she was your daughter? What about getting married?
Tell me, what is the difference between jews and you guys?


So... a female like Gabrielle comes up with a tiny squeak of request for decent behaviour and suddenly most everybody calls her names and treats her most unfriendly and indecent like if she had met a bunch of nigers on the prowl cruising for a piece of ass......
But ... you see.... had I had a daughter she wouldn't have been (allowed to be) a slut and if any pig , also had that been a white pig , tried to mistreat or take advantage of my little girl I think he easily had had a rather bad accident - but then again my idea of being white is not to treat a female badly just for being a female or for having feelings of the female persuasion cause I'm perfectly able to understand that a female placed in the role of a mom or homemaker thinks not like a man but like what she is - female....
I have no idea what Gabrielle have written else or who she is but i utterly despise the idea of mistreating her just for uttering concerns for treament of her sex and some decent behaviour in general
Please understand that the fact that you have seen or met thousands of slutz do not give you the right as male to mistreat females just for being females....

There is all kind of nigers (niger is a latin word meaning black) including those with white skin that is spiritually niger.....
To be truely white is not just relating to color of skin but most certainly also to the fact that one is of white orientation spiritually...

FIAT LUX

A breath of fresh air! A normal, decent, moral person! I must be dreaming – this cannot be! :)

The obvious is that if you find such a "gem" you ofcourse should treat her "right" and if you do not understand this and merely wishes your sexual desires fulfilled (making you no better than the slutz) then I think you should find yourself a slut and join in your most unholy communion.

It is possible to treat a girl right and have sex with her at the same time. These are not incompatible goals. You just make sure it's a girl you know, that you like each other, that the sex is initiated the right way, that you use protection, and that information about the deed isn't spread to other people.

So... a female like Gabrielle comes up with a tiny squeak of request for decent behaviour and suddenly most everybody calls her names and treats her most unfriendly and indecent like if she had met a bunch of nigers on the prowl cruising for a piece of ass......

Itz because we know that the Gabrielle is not here for an honest debate. We remember what she was like the last time the forum was up, and many have also witnessed her behavior at the Stormfront Forum.

Please understand that the fact that you have seen or met thousands of slutz do not give you the right as male to mistreat females just for being females....

True, of course. And a man who recognizes that it is normal for a man to lead in a relationship must make sure that he is worthy of being such a man. That means to educate himself, to act maturely, and to generally be a nice bloke.

It is possible to treat a girl right and have sex with her at the same time. These are not incompatible goals. You just make sure it's a girl you know, that you like each other, that the sex is initiated the right way, that you use protection, and that information about the deed isn't spread to other people.



Itz because we know that the Gabrielle is not here for an honest debate. We remember what she was like the last time the forum was up, and many have also witnessed her behavior at the Stormfront Forum.



True, of course. And a man who recognizes that it is normal for a man to lead in a relationship must make sure that he is worthy of being such a man. That means to educate himself, to act maturely, and to generally be a nice bloke.

Back up your false accusations with PROOF! You are a coward!

Back up your false accusations with PROOF! You are a coward!

Proof? *yawn*
Anyone can go through your message history...or just watch you carry on as usual. Aren't you going to post that "stick to the rules or I'll report you to Alex Linder!" junk again? That struck me as the height of chutzpah, considering how often you have attacked AL and his beliefs.

Proof? *yawn*
Anyone can go through your message history...or just watch you carry on as usual. Aren't you going to post that "stick to the rules or I'll report you to Alex Linder!" junk again? That struck me as the height of chutzpah, considering how often you have attacked AL and his beliefs.


You filthy lair – where is your proof? I am calling you out and demanding that you prove what you just posted. If you don’t – everyone here will know you for the cowardly lair you are. So, make good on your false accusations, or forever shut your lying filthy, cowardly, ungodly mouth. You are a coward! :mad:

It is possible to treat a girl right and have sex with her at the same time. These are not incompatible goals. You just make sure it's a girl you know, that you like each other, that the sex is initiated the right way, that you use protection, and that information about the deed isn't spread to other people.

Fredrik! - If you are a Swedish nationalists I can only have sympathy for your cause because amongst the swedes there are some nationalists that really have had enough of the occupation forces occupying the northern europeans countries and some of these Swedes really shows it sometimes -
BUT !

I must disagree with you . Many places a female is considered damaged goods if not a virgin (thoug maybe not by most Swedes) and no matter if you use what you yourself thinks of as "treating her right" then I think that your proposed actions is nothing short of luring her out of her virginity. (also even thoug medias has injected in her the belief that it is allright)
I understand perfectly that what is wrong here is less you and more a society attitude / common psychocis attitude injected by medias .
But please understand this , Fredrik , society/medias inject promiscuity into the populations . They label it freedom but what they really want is to create a society of consumers that only thinks of having their desires satisfied thus using the desires of the populations to enslave the populations and to create perdition. What you suggests is really spiritually perdition , a fact you do not understand because the people of this world has lost most all understanding of the true nature of religion and spiritual nature of being white....
You are pursuing the physical side of relationships not capeable of truly understanding that "physical relationship" should be the result of the spiritual "relationship".


Itz because we know that the Gabrielle is not here for an honest debate. We remember what she was like the last time the forum was up, and many have also witnessed her behavior at the Stormfront Forum.


Hmmm.....
Perhaps Gabrielle got a big chip on her shoulder(?) - not unlike a lot of guys around here , perhaps many has mistreated her in the past(?) , perhaps what she really is is in great (spiritual) pain (?) - I don't know - I just think that she in this particiularly example did not deserve the "deal" she was handed. Anyway I can understand if you find it hard to treat her right if you thinks she has behaved badly in the past and I can also understand why you may find it hard to give her a new "chance" every time but as a generel rule one shouldn't use others behaviour to excuse ones own poor (behaviour)....
so if you don't want it to be generel Gabrielle bashing perhaps it serves this forum and our time best to try give her some slack...


True, of course. And a man who recognizes that it is normal for a man to lead in a relationship must make sure that he is worthy of being such a man. That means to educate himself, to act maturely, and to generally be a nice bloke.

I agree , Fredrik , but to "educate" oneself and to "mature" is also to gain knowledge of the consequences of ones own actions ....
(If one is not a total moron)

FIAT LUX

A breath of fresh air! A normal, decent, moral person! I must be dreaming – this cannot be! :)

Hmmmm....
Sorry to disappoint you - but I hardly think I qualify as being "normal" . ;)

FIAT LUX

I have made it quite clear, that I have no attention of discussing religion on this forum with anyone, at least twice already!
This is a message board and I have always upheld the rules, which I agreed to. I wish I could say the same about others – but a man is only as good as his word.

In other words, you are going to continue to merely troll and not answer any difficult questions. We are shocked.

FIATLUX,

Gabrielle's problems started when she called all of us Jews. I don't know if you intentionally overlooked that but simply go back to the beginning of the thread and read again if you need to. If you were on the old board on VNN before it collapsed or have seen some of her posts on Stormfront, you would understand why no one is thrilled that she is here.

Methinks, this "Gabrielle" thing of second coming sounds alot like good ole "Mary S"...

FIATLUX,

Gabrielle's problems started when she called all of us Jews. I don't know if you intentionally overlooked that but simply go back to the beginning of the thread and read again if you need to. If you were on the old board on VNN before it collapsed or have seen some of her posts on Stormfront, you would understand why no one is thrilled that she is here.


Hi TylerD..... Not to split hairs but that's not what she wrote....
She wrote a valid question which was "Tell me, what is the difference between jews and you guys?" , which I myself comprehend as to taunt you into taking your statements up for for considerations. I see it more in the line of that she is saying that she would like you to have a nicer attitude towards women and that white men shouldn't have what she considers Jew attitudes towards females.

Taunting is difficult art and I am not sure how well Gabrielle is mastering that particular art.... On the other hand I think that people around here really easy gets rude to each other and easily starts flaming (thats a general observation not just related to this thread) - but hey I fly of the handle sometimes myself too though I try not too - meaning : Yes I can get really pisssed off too when people is unpleasent when they need not to be.....

From what I've read : No! Gabrielle ain't no angel (a lot of us surely could use one of them - a personal female angel I mean) but maybe you taunt her too - all of the time without seeing it (?) - so maybe she is not all that bad as you make her ???

I am a newcommer here (and probably won't stay for long) so what can I say - I call them as I see them - from where I stand....

FIAT LUX

Readers,
Thanks for the thoughtful intelligent replies by some regarding this topic.

To the idiots, trolls and trouble makers - a big Fuck Off to you all.
Please seek another thread to shit disturb since we have ignored a few of the most outspoken losers who keep popping up. Use your immense free time in a more productive fashion.

Lux,
I know the answer to my question seems obvious, but I have learned not to be too nice even with so called 'good girls' or quality ladies. It's within the female gender to yearn to ultimately submit to a dominant man. It must be this way in a natural heathly relationship. It is nature's way...and there is no way around this.

Romantic chivalry has its place, but it is mostly fantasy and from a time long since passed. Besides, did you know that the concept of romantci love and chivalry is actually a male invention from the time of the Knights in Western Europe?
Yes, it goes without saying that the far majority of females out there are worthless holes to plow your dick into. The demented part of this is that they actually WANT you to treat them like the sluts they feel they are. Women mostly define themselves by their sexuality and their physical apparence. If a man comes along and actually tries to treat a slut like a lady, the slut will seek out a man who wishes to use her as a sperm bucket - I have seen this pattern repeat itself time and time again.
It is actually the male who has the natural instinct to treat a woman in a decent manner. But the times when our DNA was hardwired has long since passed and we now live in a very easy artifical world, so the female is unconsciously forced to seek out a stronger strain of man to keep the genes for the future in good health.

Let me sum it up this way: since we have almost zero natural selection checks to balance and keep out the weak genes (we have mastered the natural environment, natural predatory animals and have large surpluses of food), the genes are getting weaker and weaker. Nature knows this deep down inside us...
The female gender as the choser must seek out genes from the most dominant males...the 'nice' guys are perceived as carriers of weak genes who will not have the assertiveness to survive and protect them and their offspring.
Plus, if you are too 'nice'. the females perceive this as someone who lacks the drive to get what you want in the end, hence survival.
It is nature's perpetual cycle and we can not escape it.

Women know they are weaker, less able, less intelligent in the rule making, world building sense. They must feel too good about themselves since this is contrary to nature's plan.
Men must dominate women, since it is us who will either make our survival or perish. Dominate does not mean abuse or mistreat of course.

Real worls examples: you know when you fuck a girl fairly quickly, she is more needy, less likely to control things in the relationship?
This is an example of nature's plan at work.
Physical intimacy equals bonding for females. So, when we reach this point, we know we 'have' them in a sense.
They become part of our harim.

That is the unconscious strategy of males when they seek to fuck a girl right away. Because they know if they do, they can breath a little easier and give up on the chase.

In my situation, its been a good 3 or so months since I have been seeing this nice young lady. This weekend we are attending a wedding (I'm just her date), I am planning to get more intimate this weekend in a major way (I'm shooting for a BJ or fingering her) If I'm successful, then I'll know she sees me as a serious boyfriend and I can assume she likes and respects me.

Wish me luck!

Lux,
I know the answer to my question seems obvious, but I have learned not to be too nice even with so called 'good girls' or quality ladies. It's within the female gender to yearn to ultimately submit to a dominant man. It must be this way in a natural heathly relationship. It is nature's way...and there is no way around this.

Yes, it goes without saying that the far majority of females out there are worthless holes to plow your dick into. The demented part of this is that they actually WANT you to treat them like the sluts they feel they are. Women mostly define themselves by their sexuality and their physical apparence. If a man comes along and actually tries to treat a slut like a lady, the slut will seek out a man who wishes to use her as a sperm bucket - I have seen this pattern repeat itself time and time again.

Well.... For much of your lenghty post I can't argue with you you got it nailed - most of it.....


Dominate does not mean abuse or mistreat of course.

I am glad you can see that - because that is a healthy attitude (hope you can live up to your attitude ;) - most men can't when stressed)


Real worls examples: you know when you fuck a girl fairly quickly, she is more needy, less likely to control things in the relationship?

This I think you got a little wrong.... This is about being dominating - if you wait to poke a female it will in most situations and with most men be because "she didn't want to do it" not because "he" didn't want to do it.... and there , I think , is the cause to your observation - because if "he" wants it and "she" don't - then when things is posponed she'll feel that she is in power because she is saying no! and he wants it and this power will be transferred to later in the relationship.
But like I wrote , I think your observation is wrong for this is about power not about the time of poking in your girlfriend....
So this is also about the attitude that men have - if they didn't have that attitude (the I wanna have IT NOW attitude) she wouldn't feel that power over him....


In my situation, its been a good 3 or so months since I have been seeing this nice young lady. This weekend we are attending a wedding (I'm just her date), I am planning to get more intimate this weekend in a major way (I'm shooting for a BJ or fingering her) If I'm successful, then I'll know she sees me as a serious boyfriend and I can assume she likes and respects me.

Wish me luck!

I still think that the real sign of power for a male in todays society is to do right by the female - so many men can't and so many men can't (emotionally , spiritually and intellectually) tell the difference between a nice girl and a "sperm bucket" .
You can and I think that you ought to treat her with every bit of respect and decency she deserves - rather than making up excuses for yourself to poke her.....

Advice given in best spirit.....

FIAT LUX

Thank Lux for the advice.
I think you bring up a good point about it being a power play. It can become a tug of war in an emotional sense
No one (men or women) want a needy person.

People like people who value themselves.
I agree with you to a certain degree.

Rest easy, I'm treating this young lady like gold, but trying to remain the dominant decision maker. I am naturally chivalrous and well mannered. I owe this to the way I was raised.
But, your wrong when you state that I am rationalizing excuses just to 'poke' my g/f.
I actually would be fine waiting, but I know how the female mind works. If she's a virgin and I get there first or become inimate in other ways, I will have part of her soul....
I want and crave this

Physical intimacy is a pretty powerful emotional tool.
I am not just out for quick physical action, I want more.

I'm just learning from nature's eternal laws.

Hi TylerD..... Not to split hairs but that's not what she wrote....
She wrote a valid question which was "Tell me, what is the difference between jews and you guys?" , which I myself comprehend as to taunt you into taking your statements up for for considerations. I see it more in the line of that she is saying that she would like you to have a nicer attitude towards women and that white men shouldn't have what she considers Jew attitudes towards females.

Taunting is difficult art and I am not sure how well Gabrielle is mastering that particular art.... On the other hand I think that people around here really easy gets rude to each other and easily starts flaming (thats a general observation not just related to this thread) - but hey I fly of the handle sometimes myself too though I try not too - meaning : Yes I can get really pisssed off too when people is unpleasent when they need not to be.....

From what I've read : No! Gabrielle ain't no angel (a lot of us surely could use one of them - a personal female angel I mean) but maybe you taunt her too - all of the time without seeing it (?) - so maybe she is not all that bad as you make her ???

I am a newcommer here (and probably won't stay for long) so what can I say - I call them as I see them - from where I stand....

FIAT LUX

FIAT, by asking "Tell me, what is the difference between jews and you guys?" she is just trying to imply that either are or act like Jews. In general, Jewish men are quite effeminate around women. I don't think most of us share that trait.

She did not even bother trying to single someone out. She did not specify some behavior that was universally Jewish AND not "White". When you come into a conversation and act like that, you can expect unpleasant responses. I'm sure you understand that. She has a history of doing this. She just acted as a troll in the conversation. She berates and then refuses to answer questions.

Draco, I never expected anything from ANYONE, except to abide by the white, reasonable rules to which we all agreed.
If you will notice, I have not even bothered to discuss religion with anyone here, as I have tried it before, and found that it was a fruitless task.
Someone who posts here – one of the few, who are very nice people, invited me back to VNN.

You claimed I insulted Mr. Linder at SF – I am calling you a liar. Prove that I ‘repeatedly insulted Mr. Linder’, or admit that your accusation was false...

You are an evil troll, Draco!

I'll call you on this one, Gabrielle. You have repeatedly insulted Linder and his creation (VNN) on Stormfront.



http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=726922#post726922

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=726812#post726812

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=724596#post724596 (your total Agreement with Observer14)

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=709419#post709419

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=667436#post667436

I'm not wasting anymore time on that. Just for good measure, mongrel Artie Wheeler is whiter than most PUREWhite people according to you:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=96850

Now when are you going to start answering questions here? When are you going to start demonstrating some of the viciousness you've displayed here towards the feminists on Stormfront? It is your Biblical duty, no?

I'll call you on this one, troll Gabrielle. You have repeatedly insulted Linder and his creation (VNN) on Stormfront.

Now when are you going to start answering questions here? When are you going to start harrassing the feminists on Stormfront?


On the contrary, I call you on this one, TylerD...Show me one post where I defamed Mr. Linder. Show me where I've hidden my beliefs; I stand behind every statement you quoted, and any you might dig up, because I've always been upfront and honest with my opinions.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Linder had enough respect for my opinion to post several articles of mine; I, in return, have respect for him and his views, whether I disagree or not.
I will not pretend that I do not disagree, but I will not defame someone because I disagree - any criticism or praise I have for an individual I state, and clearly.

Now when are you going to get a life, and start posting proof of your accusations here? When are you going to start [i]thinking before speaking, and thusly making an arse of yourself?

On the contrary, I call you on this one, TylerD...Show me one post where I defamed Mr. Linder. Show me where I've hidden my beliefs; I stand behind every statement you quoted, and any you might dig up, because I've always been upfront and honest with my opinions.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Linder had enough respect for my opinion to post several articles of mine; I, in return, have respect for him and his views, whether I disagree or not.
I will not pretend that I do not disagree, but I will not defame someone because I disagree - any criticism or praise I have for an individual I state, and clearly.

Now when are you going to get a life, and start posting proof of your accusations here? When are you going to start [i]thinking before speaking, and thusly making an arse of yourself?

*yawn*

You still avoid all questions you find inconvenient. Why don't you go back to elementary school and learn the difference between DEFAME and INSULT. You stated insult to begin with and I responded with examples where you were insulting. Now you want to change it to DEFAME. Nice try.

*yawn*

You still avoid all questions you find inconvenient. Why don't you go back to elementary school and learn the difference between DEFAME and INSULT. You stated insult to begin with and I responded with examples where you were insulting. Now you want to change it to DEFAME. Nice try.

*Yawn* You still insist on humiliating yourself, I see. Very well; read it with insult or defame, either way you want; I didn't do either.

I'll call you on this one, Gabrielle. You have repeatedly insulted Linder and his creation (VNN) on Stormfront.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=726922#post726922
snip.....

AT STORMFRONT
What really bothers me too is how, at VNN, they refuse to write like white people - yet it is supposed to be a white man's site. Talk about helping to destroy a culture




Yeah ! - see what you mean - got the message -
I guess that I would be *really* pissed off if she was trying to bash me around like that.... Ohhh... wait a minute she actually do.... That is about all....
What the f... :mad:

Now that wasn't very kind Gabrielle.....

FIAT LUX

TylerD, Lux, et all

Just click ignore to Gabrielle. She is nothing but a shit disturber just out to cause trouble and get a whole feminism debate going. The one and only thing she cares about is gender topics.
Most of SF was ruined by people like her. They just crave attention and someone's response.

Just ignore her, not waste your time.

If you can't tell already, you are not wanted here.
Have some dignity and just leave.
Thank you

I must disagree with you . Many places a female is considered damaged goods if not a virgin (thoug maybe not by most Swedes) and no matter if you use what you yourself thinks of as "treating her right" then I think that your proposed actions is nothing short of luring her out of her virginity.

I'm not in my mid-teens and I don't meet girls who are still virgins.

And even if I were, it wouldn't make any difference. Noone is treated badly for not being a virgin in the West. And a girl who thought that it would be wrong to lose her virginity, well, that girl doesn't have her priorities straight, and I wouldn't date her.

But please understand this , Fredrik , society/medias inject promiscuity into the populations . They label it freedom but what they really want is to create a society of consumers that only thinks of having their desires satisfied thus using the desires of the populations to enslave the populations and to create perdition.

I understand what you mean, though it has nothing to do with increasing consumption. The ordinary rich business leader has zero chance to change society; the only ones who can affect culture through a concerted effort are the media Jews, and they don't do it so that the warehouses will sell more merchandise.

What you suggests is really spiritually perdition , a fact you do not understand because the people of this world has lost most all understanding of the true nature of religion and spiritual nature of being white....

Do not make assumptions about what I understand or not about society.

And please, don't write an apology because of my last sentence there. I hate long, crawling apologies and the touchy/feely atmosphere.

You are pursuing the physical side of relationships not capeable of truly understanding that "physical relationship" should be the result of the spiritual "relationship".

Not at all, nothing that I wrote says I pursue physical relationships only. But I reserve the right to write exclusively about the physical side every now and then without having to add "Of course this is not as important as feeeelings," just like I reserve the right to write about money without having to add "Of course this is not what's reeeally important," and about beauty without having to add "Of course it's really the inside that matters."


Perhaps Gabrielle got a big chip on her shoulder(?) - not unlike a lot of guys around here ,

Noone showed a chip on any shoulder in this thread before she entered. And there are no excuses for her.

perhaps many has mistreated her in the past(?) , perhaps what she really is is in great (spiritual) pain (?) - I don't know -

It matters not more than a stone in the desert. Every adult is responsible for his own behavior without excuses. Isn't that what the whole justice system, for example, is based on? That with the right to vote and buy alcohol and so on, with the coming of age, you also take full responsibility for your own actions? It is only socialism that has deluded that philosophy, since socialism bribes voters by handing out excuses, exceptions and privileges to the low and to low behavior.

I just think that she in this particiularly example did not deserve the "deal" she was handed.

She calls people Jews with the full intention to insult and inflame. She's a Tiresome, Radid, Online-Living Loser, and we know what to do with trolls.

so if you don't want it to be generel Gabrielle bashing perhaps it serves this forum and our time best to try give her some slack...

Why would I not want that? I wish her ill. Only a Christian fanatic would make up excuses and hand out chance after chance to those who don't deserve it.

If you can't tell already, you are not wanted here.
Have some dignity and just leave.
Thank you

Since you didn't write that this is for Gabrielle I'm left with no alternative than to believe you were taking a swing at the rest of us....
If so I think you act really unfriendly towards other members.
Also I think that your attitude , if so , is really wrong.
I think that this forum needs the possibility to exclude nuisances in a way that'll do that it do not matter if the perp changes username.
I don't know if it is technical possible or the site builder/owner got the insight to make something like that.
Anyway that would give you and others that consider themselves to be "the holy knights of moderation" a chance to get people deemed as "persona non grata" and get rid of them....

But until then , I think I'll form my own opinion based on evidence presented , thank you.

FIAT LUX

I'm not in my mid-teens and I don't meet girls who are still virgins.

Well - Good for you ....


And even if I were, it wouldn't make any difference.

Ohhhhh..... they really learned you to be broadminded ! - didn't they ? :-)


Noone is treated badly for not being a virgin in the West.

Well Fredrik I guess you haven't been talking to the local members of the occupation forces lately - huh ? (I mean the nigers/moslems/whatever)

Anyway - you are not the only one living in the west - pal !


And a girl who thought that it would be wrong to lose her virginity, well, that girl doesn't have her priorities straight, and I wouldn't date her.

You really got your priorities straight - huh?

So I understand you plan to marry the local sperm-drunk town slut and raise some kids with her ?
ROTFL :D


I understand what you mean, though it has nothing to do with increasing consumption. The ordinary rich business leader has zero chance to change society; the only ones who can affect culture through a concerted effort are the media Jews, and they don't do it so that the warehouses will sell more merchandise.

Ooohhhhh! - we got an enlightned one here - huh ?

So this means that it doesn't matter when Swedish TV uses a horrendeous number of years of airtime to make your mind ready for the great continuous buttf**k by swedish traitors and their creep friends (b.t.w. did you know that swedish TV is broadcastet via sattelite ??? - hell - some even record it and ship it to other people)

Yeah! you really must be awake ! ( ROTFL )


Do not make assumptions about what I understand or not about society.

Ooohhh... Fredrik! - I think I'll make the assumptions I please as long as I please - based on what I know....


And please, don't write an apology because of my last sentence there. I hate long, crawling apologies and the touchy/feely atmosphere.

Glad to see you got a sense of humor....


Not at all, nothing that I wrote says I pursue physical relationships only. But I reserve the right to write exclusively about the physical side every now and then without having to add "Of course this is not as important as feeeelings," just like I reserve the right to write about money without having to add "Of course this is not what's reeeally important," and about beauty without having to add "Of course it's really the inside that matters."
Trust me Pal! , you wouldn't recognize the devil if he were on top of your girlfriend when you had sex with her as little as you would recognize the devil if it were laying under you when you had sex with your girlfriend.....
Nothing personal - That's just what modern societies has done to people....


Every adult is responsible for his own behavior without excuses. Isn't that what the whole justice system, for example, is based on? That with the right to vote and buy alcohol and so on, with the coming of age, you also take full responsibility for your own actions? It is only socialism that has deluded that philosophy, since socialism bribes voters by handing out excuses, exceptions and privileges to the low and to low behavior.
So this means that all these years of Swedish TV , MTV , carefully planned commercials, whatever really were waisted on you and your Swedish friends ???? - well - Good for you!!!
ROTFL :D


Why would I not want that? I wish her ill. Only a Christian fanatic would make up excuses and hand out chance after chance to those who don't deserve it.
Christian fanatic you say ??? - Hhhhmmmm .... well..... some of us got good taste - what can I say ;-)

Please have another go at it - this is fun.... Oooohhh.... but please do not expect me to participate for a longer period cause I got better things to do with my life than to hang around here like forever....

FIAT LUX

Schopenhauer makes reference to the Salic Laws.

Further reading here:
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ge/GermancLw.html

and here:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/salic-law.html

Well, FIATLUX, didn't take you long to become irrational.

Ohhhhh..... they really learned you to be broadminded ! - didn't they ? :-)

Eh?

Well Fredrik I guess you haven't been talking to the local members of the occupation forces lately - huh ? (I mean the nigers/moslems/whatever)

This has nothing to do with anything.

Anyway - you are not the only one living in the west - pal !

I know that. But it would be interesting to know why you are making such irrational comments all of the sudden.

You really got your priorities straight - huh?

...Like this. Doesn't really bring the discussion forward, does it?

So I understand you plan to marry the local sperm-drunk town slut and raise some kids with her ?
ROTFL :D

So that's the only alternative to marrying a virgin. Either a girl is a virgin, or she's a slut. Hmmmmmmm....

You are a woman, and/or very old, I bet.


Ooohhhhh! - we got an enlightned one here - huh ?

Yet another irrational comment. If debating through forums is too tough for you, you should take a break from it.


So this means that it doesn't matter when Swedish TV uses a horrendeous number of years of airtime to make your mind ready for the great continuous buttf**k by swedish traitors and their creep friends (b.t.w. did you know that swedish TV is broadcastet via sattelite ??? - hell - some even record it and ship it to other people)

I know a great deal about Swedish television, since, after all, I live here and you apparently don't. As a matter of fact, I have written an essay about Swedish media and their owners, which can be accessed through VNN's archive.

"So this means that it doesn't matter" -- what? Of course it matters a great deal. But it is not evil capitalists out to sell merchandise who are responsible for this, as the socialist-minded would have it, but Jews whose motivation really is not to make us "nothing more than consumers" or something like that.

That was the distinction I made. Apparently you didn't understand it.


Yeah! you really must be awake ! ( ROTFL )

*yawn* You fly off the handle this easily, you really aren't made for this. I suppose you couldn't stand watching the poor, innocent Gabrielle get attacked for no reason at all by us evil racists who use such a harsh and wicked language.


Trust me Pal! , you wouldn't recognize the devil if he were on top of your girlfriend when you had sex with her as little as you would recognize the devil if it were laying under you when you had sex with your girlfriend.....

Okay, the first part of that was actually pretty innovative, but the second part was way redundant. Instead of just making a variation of the first insult you could have made something more interesting with the second part of the sentence.


So this means that all these years of Swedish TV , MTV , carefully planned commercials, whatever really were waisted on you and your Swedish friends ???? - well - Good for you!!!

Again, you missed my point entirely, despite the fact that I spelled it out so clearly.
"Carefully planned commercials" -- you really believe commercials have an impact on society and people's lives? Only dorky socialists think that, since that allows them to spew hatred on those evil capitalists who control the world through their conspiracies.

In fact, commercials only react to already existing demands. People wanted faster and better cars even before the car existed -- it has nothing to do with commercials. Anyone who understands the driving needs created by evolution will also understand this, and that brings you a great deal closer to understanding what shapes society.

No, corporations can't make you want to buy things for Christmas, and they can't make you want to buy things for Halloween -- the need was already with us. Commercials and sellers only react. Jewish media owners, now, those are the ones who act, when it comes to mind-shaping. Not because of conspiracy, but because it is imprinted in their nature to want to survive, just like it is in everybody else's, and they need a less nationalist host to survive.... I won't go into this at length here, but as should be obvious there is a huge difference between Jews at the helm of the media and Whites owning corporations that are just profit-oriented.


Please have another go at it - this is fun.... Oooohhh.... but please do not expect me to participate for a longer period cause I got better things to do with my life than to hang around here like forever....

I see you already know that it's a good trick to sound superior in your posts. To add that you have better things to do in your life for example, good angle. It has been used to death though.

Well, FIATLUX, didn't take you long to become irrational.


From your entire post I can see that discussing with you seems quite futile because you when beaten intellectually just stoops to calling other people irrational and claiming that nothing has got to do with anything , when in fact you yourself is becomming irrational - but I guess that is grasping at straws when your're beaten... huh?

You might be a popular guy around but by me you gotta do better than that to be popular.... ;-)


So that's the only alternative to marrying a virgin. Either a girl is a virgin, or she's a slut. Hmmmmmmm....


And I who thought you didn't care - Fredrik.... ROTFL :D


You are a woman, and/or very old, I bet.


Nice try - but no cigar.....



I know a great deal about Swedish television, since, after all, I live here and you apparently don't. As a matter of fact, I have written an essay about Swedish media and their owners, which can be accessed through VNN's archive.


Should I be impressed ? - I mean most can write - but is it worth reading? ;-)
Next you'll be trying to impress me with the fact that you can speak - I've heard about guys like you before ... ROTFL :-)


*yawn* You fly off the handle this easily, you really aren't made for this. I suppose you couldn't stand watching the poor, innocent Gabrielle get attacked for no reason at all by us evil racists who use such a harsh and wicked language.

You must be a boy when calling this flying of the handle....
Oh.. and poorly informed too - someone already had the courtesy to deliver some proof rather than just bad mouthing Gabrielle and that is in the exact same tread as this , and I agreed and you didn't notice - hey - but please don't let that stop you ;-)


Okay, the first part of that was actually pretty innovative, but the second part was way redundant. Instead of just making a variation of the first insult you could have made something more interesting with the second part of the sentence.

*Yawn* - one tries and they don't understand - I meant that you wouldn't recognize the devil anyhow and that it didn't matter if he were in you or outside of you screwing your brains out.
*Yawn*...... :p


Again, you missed my point entirely, despite the fact that I spelled it out so clearly.
"Carefully planned commercials" -- you really believe commercials have an impact on society and people's lives? Only dorky socialists think that, since that allows them to spew hatred on those evil capitalists who control the world through their conspiracies.
............
and blah blah blah blah.........
............
I won't go into this at length here, but as should be obvious there is a huge difference between Jews at the helm of the media and Whites owning corporations that are just profit-oriented.


And only dorky morons don't understand that they got really serious research going on on both how television influences people and how commercials do...
And like the industry haven't got any interest in controlling how socities develop - wake up kid !
And matter in fact a French guy made a study that not only do moving images influence people but it also matters from where the rays of lights come from (if they are projected through or onto the screen)...
Where I got that info??? - SV1 (public Swedish TV channel 1) but I guess you missed that - right Dorky ????

Listen - I know that you're probably a nice kid and a plus for the cause but stop all the messin around bullshit and take the slappin around like a man - I'm sure you are one - and once you understand that you're a little out of you league here you'll also understand that it's not because you're necessarily a Dork but because you need to stop clinging to the "always being right" means you're more of a man attitude. Also stop clinging to your (always same) political way of attacking problems when you think and open up to some learning - then.. another day you'll be right.... Grow up!!!!
;-)


I see you already know that it's a good trick to sound superior in your posts. To add that you have better things to do in your life for example, good angle. It has been used to death though.

Yeah! - well! - but you see - the difference is I mean it.....

FIAT LUX

TylerD, Lux, et all

Just click ignore to Gabrielle. She is nothing but a shit disturber just out to cause trouble and get a whole feminism debate going. The one and only thing she cares about is gender topics.
Most of SF was ruined by people like her. They just crave attention and someone's response.

Just ignore her, not waste your time.

If you can't tell already, you are not wanted here.
Have some dignity and just leave.
Thank you


I don't understand why you care if one lone woman, or even a coterie of women, call you out? Isn't VNN the free speech forum? The complaint, as I understand it, was not that so-called feminists posted at stormfront, it was that if you disagreed with them feminized moderators (JJT) banned you.

I don't understand why you care if one lone woman, or even a coterie of women, call you out? Isn't VNN the free speech forum? The complaint, as I understand it, was not that so-called feminists posted at stormfront, it was that if you disagreed with them feminized moderators (JJT) banned you.

Actually I was the one who started out defending her - if you don't mind waking up a little....

But when Gabrielle seriously offends the general messageboard here like this

AT STORMFRONT
What really bothers me too is how, at VNN, they refuse to write like white people - yet it is supposed to be a white man's site. Talk about helping to destroy a culture.
Then I really think she's begging for it - and she goes from being an un-popular feminist (or whatever) to being stupid - cause thats not the way to act...

Anyway - she doesn't like people around here ? well... then why doesn't she just stay away - like... get a life....

FIAT LUX

But when Gabrielle seriously offends the general messageboard here like this

Imagine offending the general VNN messageboard. :D


Anyway - she doesn't like people around here ? well... then why doesn't she just stay away - like... get a life....

Sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. lol. Some of you guys start threads like Stankfront: Who is the worst Judeo-Feminist there?. Then you name names. But when these people show up here they are out of line if they don't like you? :p

Imagine offending the general VNN messageboard. :D
Sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. lol. Some of you guys start threads like Stankfront: Who is the worst Judeo-Feminist there?. Then you name names. But when these people show up here they are out of line if they don't like you? :p

Seriously! - I think she should stick to the subject rather than offending everyone....

And in danger of waking you up - please note that not everyone is starting treads like that - you are doing just like Gabrielle....

You can't complain if people treat you bad if you come to their place after you've bad mouthed them all - that is a completely ridiculously expectation.
If you ask for it you get it - just like Gabrielle....

and since you really seem to have your head stuck up your *** without the capability to understand this I will try and explain it to you one more time :
I ACTUALLY STOOD UP FOR GABRIELLE TO START WITH

. FIAT LUX

Lux,
Just when I was beginning to think you had lots of concrete and well thought out things to contribute, you revert to disapointing me. It's unfortunate that you think I was referring to "the rest of us" when I stated that the woman trouble maker Gabrielle is not wanted on here and should leave with some self pride and dignity. The whole post was directed at her. I thought it was so obvious, but I suppose some people can't read between the lines. I was actually trying to be diplomatic and polite by refraiming to use here name.
So for you to assume that I was referring to you or others, sorry, you are incorrect.
It seems that you may not be as intelligent Lux as you like to think you are. I think you have some B+ thoughts, but get caught up in crusading and moral prothelizing and sometimes get off on controversy and flame wars.
So you have evidently a little bit of a trouble maker streak in you.
You'd come across better if you would not be so quick to judgement and jump into controversy and crusading. Try to sit back and learn the personalities and contexts before you go off and assuming things...

Let me inform you that I, along with many others on this forum go way back with the feminist minded WNs' that are so prolific on SF. Yes, it is immature and not too productive to start threads like 'whose the biggest judeo feminist on SF?' and other such nonsensical crap. But you can attribute some of the SF bashing to pent up anger and frustration from so much censorship and cliquish behavior from some of the SF crowd.
At first, I thought it was great to see people blow off steam and say things that they feel here that they can't on SF. SF really degenerated into a feminst minded NA crusading forum where people talked more about their eye color and birthdays and pictures than anything else.
The pro-feminist mindset was forced on everyone by the women and some moderators.
So real free speech is a great thing.

Maybe we can stop the personal issues and get back on topic. Let's stop debating about the treatment of that female. Believe me, she's not worth the time.

Lux,
Just when I was beginning to think you had lots of concrete and well thought out things to contribute, you revert to disapointing me. It's unfortunate that you think I was referring to "the rest of us" when I stated that the woman trouble maker Gabrielle is not wanted on here snip...........
So for you to assume that I was referring to you or others, sorry, you are incorrect.
It seems that you may not be as intelligent Lux as you like to think you are. I think you have some B+ thoughts, but get caught up in crusading and moral prothelizing and sometimes get off on controversy and flame wars.

:D
So you call me stupid , B+ thoughts and so on
and all of that because you cannot articulate yourself properly...
Thats really cute.....

But ofcourse you are so wrong , Derrick , it were a cheap shot and it bounced right off.
I had my choices of interpretation and I took what I felt for in situation...

I can imagine you also like to slap people around if they don't read your mind properly - I can see that it must be most efficiently in helping you getting off
LOL


So you have evidently a little bit of a trouble maker streak in you.
You'd come across better if you would not be so quick to judgement and jump into controversy and crusading. Try to sit back and learn the personalities and contexts before you go off and assuming things...


I have the occasional fun ;)

FIAT LUX

Gentlemen, first of all, I never asked anyone for “help”.
Secondly, in one of my essays to Mr. Linder, I pointed out that the writing that Thomas G. [I believe that was his name] was submitting was written like a whigger rather than a white man.
I NEVER complained about the way I was treated – I complained about people breaking the RULES they agreed to abide by. A man is only as good as his WORD. Grow up!

You can't complain if people treat you bad if you come to their place after you've bad mouthed them all - that is a completely ridiculously expectation.
If you ask for it you get it - just like Gabrielle.... byFIATLUX

Again, I never complained! My quote which has you so offended was not one that I put here – it was one that someone took from Stormfront and posted it here…No surprise to Mr. Linder, as I made similar comments in an essay I sent him!

You people are the ones doing the complaining here – firstly, you devoted much time to ridiculing, insulting and belittling honest white people [the individuals at Stormfront]; one person here went so far as to delight in the rape of a Stormfront poster. Secondly, you’re continually whining about me, and falsely accusing me – just like jews [yes, I said that, and I’ll say it again], you say things that you cannot and do not back up. Oy vey, six million!

A simple bit of advice…GET REAL. :)

- please note that not everyone is starting treads like that -

Here is what I wrote:

Imagine offending the general VNN messageboard.
Sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. lol. Some of you guys start threads like Stankfront: Who is the worst Judeo-Feminist there?. Then you name names. But when these people show up here they are out of line if they don't like you?

I was careful to write some and here you accuse me of saying everyone. So who is acting like the Gabrielle now?

Anyway enough of the subject of Gabrielle. I don't recall reading any of her posts. This isn't about sticking up for her. My point is keep her around and slap her down if she is a tiresome little ninny.

Here is what I wrote:

Imagine offending the general VNN messageboard.
Sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose. lol. Some of you guys start threads like Stankfront: Who is the worst Judeo-Feminist there?. Then you name names. But when these people show up here they are out of line if they don't like you?

I was careful to write some and here you accuse me of saying everyone. So who is acting like the Gabrielle now?

Anyway enough of the subject of Gabrielle. I don't recall reading any of her posts. This isn't about sticking up for her. My point is keep her around and slap her down if she is a tiresome little ninny.


Perhaps you didn't write everyone - but you did write that answering a direct quote from me - and I hadn't made threads like that soooo.....

FIAT LUX

byFIATLUX
Again, I never complained! My quote which has you so offended was not one that I put here – it was one that someone took from Stormfront and posted it here…No surprise to Mr. Linder, as I made similar comments in an essay I sent him!

You people are the ones doing the complaining here – firstly, you devoted much time to ridiculing, insulting and belittling honest white people [the individuals at Stormfront]; one person here went so far as to delight in the rape of a Stormfront poster. Secondly, you’re continually whining about me, and falsely accusing me – just like jews [yes, I said that, and I’ll say it again], you say things that you cannot and do not back up. Oy vey, six million!

A simple bit of advice…GET REAL. :)

You keep on doing the same - attacking people at large for the actions of individuals....

And your argument that you made your general complaints and condecending remarks outside the place and went into the place afterwards (understood : why it shouldn't matter) is real female logic
and not really a valid excuse....

FIAT LUX

Perhaps you didn't write everyone - but you did write that answering a direct quote from me - and I hadn't made threads like that soooo.....

FIAT LUX

Thin, but at least you are honorable enough to sort of admit you misrepresented what I said while accusing me of misrepresenting you. :cool:


This place is the best parody site I've ever seen (not referring to you). Hilarious itz! Meistersinger Alex has a hot property. Im going to send him enough money to buy a bottle of booze for Christ's mass. :D

to sort of admit you misrepresented what I said while accusing me of misrepresenting you. :cool:

Really cute (not meant in an ironic way)
ROTFL

FIAT LUX

God Damn, many of you are fuckin morons!!

Here's an idea, why don't Lux, drifter and Gabrielle go off and debate semantics and all the he said/she said bullshit that they love to focus on. Objectively, I can without a doubt say that you all suck a major dick. You focus all your words on examining what someone else stated and what they meant on a cyber forum.
Please shut the fuck up and get off this thread with your preschool antics.

Some of you need to get bitch slapped across the face to wake up a bit. You are wasting everyone's time with utter bullshit. It's almost comical at this point, quoting posts and replying to them in a steady stream of nonsense.
If you have nothing to add of substance except personal nitpicking, please fuck off!

Thanks

You keep on doing the same - attacking people at large for the actions of individuals....

And your argument that you made your general complaints and condecending remarks outside the place and went into the place afterwards (understood : why it shouldn't matter) is real female logic
and not really a valid excuse....

FIAT LUX

Wrong, FIAT LUX, my post was directed at those individuals, not ‘people at large’!

I already explained [and stand by] my Stormfont post 100%.
Speaking of logic or, of lack thereof, I notice you went from a person who stood by the truth, but, when it starting getting a little warm, you followed the crowd and left behind logic and truth. A few pm’s, a little push from the boys, and you just followed the herd…and you fit in just fine…but with what?

As to my original post on Stormfront, which seems to have so many all upset, if you distort the language of a people - whether it be written or spoken - you are contributing to the break down of their nation … i.e. the race or the people.
Many blacks refuse to speak or write proper English because it is a white thing, and ‘it is prejudiced’ (and many are simply not smart enough to do so, of course).

I can without a doubt say that you all suck a major dick.
Well that must be in your dreams.....

Some of you need to get bitch slapped across the face to wake up a bit.

I see that you got more than one dream ! (is it wet dreams?)

God Damn, many of you are fuckin morons!!

What can one say ? - one tries!! - glad you enjoy the impression


Here's an idea, why don't Lux, drifter and Gabrielle go off and debate semantics and all the he said/she said bullshit that they love to focus on. Objectively, I can without a doubt say that you all suck a major dick. You focus all your words on examining what someone else stated and what they meant on a cyber forum.
Please shut the fuck up and get off this thread with your preschool antics.
You are wasting everyone's time with utter bullshit. It's almost comical at this point, quoting posts and replying to them in a steady stream of nonsense.
If you have nothing to add of substance except personal nitpicking, please fuck off!
Thanks
Do you have anything meaningfull to add ????
ROTFL

FIAT LUX

I notice you went from a person who stood by the truth, but, when it starting getting a little warm, you followed the crowd and left behind logic and truth. A few pm’s, a little push from the boys, and you just followed the herd…and you fit in just fine…but with what?


That's your interpretation - and nothing more - and by the way no one has written me any personal mail or messages in connection with my being here (not anything I have received anyway) - that is just *your* paranoia .

I still think your Stormfront remarks were out of place because you made it a general remark....

FIAT LUX

From your entire post I can see that discussing with you seems quite futile because you when beaten intellectually just stoops to calling other people irrational and claiming that nothing has got to do with anything , when in fact you yourself is becomming irrational - but I guess that is grasping at straws when your're beaten... huh?

I see you go on using debating tricks; here by acting as if you would assume that I have been "beaten" in the discussion. Heh.

The comments I called irrational really were irrational, not to say irrelevant -- just you venting air. Not worth replying to, since you didn't make any points.


You might be a popular guy around but by me you gotta do better than that to be popular.... ;-)

Why would I want to be popular with you? Yeesh.

Should I be impressed ? - I mean most can write - but is it worth reading? ;-)
Next you'll be trying to impress me with the fact that you can speak - I've heard about guys like you before ... ROTFL :-)


Why would I care what you think or not? Keep your inflated sense of self-worth to yourself. My point, which you seem to miss intentionally, is that I have studied Swedish media, I probably know way more about the subject than you do, so it's just pathetic when you try to lecture me on the subject. "Did you know that it is sent by satellite" -- I mean, come on. You take small pieces of information that you have come across and try to sound as if you know something.


You must be a boy when calling this flying of the handle....

I must be a "boy"? *S*
All of the sudden you act as if I had attacked you, which in fact I hadn't. But you apparently can't stand it when people don't hold hands and sing songs. If an analytic debating climate is too tough for you, then you're in the wrong place.


Oh.. and poorly informed too - someone already had the courtesy to deliver some proof rather than just bad mouthing Gabrielle and that is in the exact same tread as this , and I agreed and you didn't notice - hey - but please don't let that stop you ;-)

This is pretty ridiculous. Nothing I wrote indicated that I didn't see those posts in the thread. And my comment was relevant whether I did or not. You seem to have a slower brain than most people here ... how sad....

And only dorky morons don't understand that they got really serious research going on on both how television influences people and how
commercials do...

"They" got serious research? That sounds like a kid arguing. You don't bring up any actual facts, you just talk about "they," the authority figures, the people in suits who have to be looked up to by all authoritarian-minded little lemmings.

And like the industry haven't got any interest in controlling how socities develop - wake up kid !

Too bad you couldn't act in a mature way more than a few posts.

"The industry." Socialist paranoia is just as ridiculous every time you see it. You sit there thinking about "them," the "industry," the "rich," those who "oppress" you, without making any effort to structure society any more than that.

What do you think "the industry" is? Men in dark suits with cigars in their mouths who gather in a room to decide how to manipulate the poor workers? You can't handle the fact that the corporations work independently, and so can't make any concerted effort to change society in any way. Only Jews in Hollywood acting out their collective interests can, and that's a whole different ballgame.


And matter in fact a French guy made a study

Noo, "a French guy" made a study? Well, it has to be true then!

And hey, "an American guy" made another study where he showed that the first moonlanding is fake, so that must be true as well! No evidence needed -- it was "a study" after all, by "them," the people dressed in suits, right?

You will have to do a little better than that if you want people to take you seriously in discussions. You evoke a study you have to show it. Studies are as plentiful as rats.


that not only do moving images influence people but it also matters from where the rays of lights come from (if they are projected through or onto the screen)...

Ohh, that proves how powerful those evil capitalists are! They are hypnotizing us all.


Where I got that info??? - SV1 (public Swedish TV channel 1) but I guess you missed that - right Dorky ????

*ROTFLOL*You are trying to tell us that unless you watch every single TV documentary, you're "dorky"? That's actually hilarious.
But hey, keep watching government-owned television. I'm sure it will give you all the info you need from "them" in order to understand the world.


Listen - I know that you're probably a nice kid and a plus for the cause but stop all the messin around bullshit and take the slappin around like a man I'm sure you are one - and once you understand that you're a little out of you league here-

Oh, please, nobody here cares to see your delusions of superiority, so stop acting as if you would be an authority. You are just making an ass of yourself, and most people who make the effort to come here to debate can slice and dice you without effort if you keep walking on that thin ice.

I can give you a little piece of advice: no matter what kind of shit-for-brain idiots some chatters are, I have never before seen anyone mess around with the quotes from other people. We copy and paste what an opponent has said exactly. You don't do that, your credibility falls like a rock.


Also stop clinging to your (always same) political way of attacking problems

Eh? "Political" way of attacking problems? You want to twist words when debating with yourself in your own head that's fine, but when talking to others you have to make a little more sense.



Originally Posted by Fredrik Haerne

I see you already know that it's a good trick to sound superior in your posts. To add that you have better things to do in your life for example, good angle. It has been used to death though.
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Yeah! - well! - but you see - the difference is I mean it.....

*LOL* Considering that you have a posting average of 25 posts per day that's the worst clash between bragging and reality I have seen in a long time! :D

Lux,
Just when I was beginning to think you had lots of concrete and well thought out things to contribute, you revert to disapointing me. It's unfortunate that you think I was referring to "the rest of us" when I stated that the woman trouble maker Gabrielle is not wanted on here and should leave with some self pride and dignity. The whole post was directed at her. I thought it was so obvious, but I suppose some people can't read between the lines. I was actually trying to be diplomatic and polite by refraiming to use here name.
So for you to assume that I was referring to you or others, sorry, you are incorrect.
It seems that you may not be as intelligent Lux as you like to think you are. I think you have some B+ thoughts, but get caught up in crusading and moral prothelizing and sometimes get off on controversy and flame wars.
So you have evidently a little bit of a trouble maker streak in you.
You'd come across better if you would not be so quick to judgement and jump into controversy and crusading. Try to sit back and learn the personalities and contexts before you go off and assuming things...

I would say that FL is a perfect example of the emotion-dominated mind at work, unfortunately. Pretty obvious that your comment was directed at Gabrielle, it was. To not see that, odd is.

The pro-feminist mindset was forced on everyone by the women and some moderators.
So real free speech is a great thing.

Yes, these were my thoughts exactly: real criticism is banned at SF, so of course people will speak their mind when they get a forum like this one. And of course the moderators at SF immediately regarded that as a threat to their little game.

Maybe we would want to see a few individuals thrown out every now and then, but as one of the great ones put it, I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

You guys make me laugh!!!!!!! You talk about women like one would talk about horses...."Yep, hey Clem, gotta have a steady hand there" "okay Vernon, make sure you let 'em know you're in charge, ya' know they need that" I feel so sorry for you. So many of you have had just terrible taste in picking girlfriends, probably because in all reality you just wanted someone to screw, and any boot wearing, tatoo flaunting "bitch" was good enough. You can only blame yourselves for that. If you are dating a girl and she wants you to be "mean" it's because the men in her family were probably "mean" or she doesn't really want intimacy with a man. Intimacy includes trust ( can you really trust someone who is mean to you?), just because women want to get married, move-in, etc, doesn't mean they really want to be intimate with you, just like you wanted to screw but didn't care about the rest. If someone stays with someone who is overly domineering, the payback is the person who is being dominated can ALWAYS BLAME THE DOMINATOR when things go wrong!!!! You'll find that in S&M relationships, they will always say it's the MASOCHIST who has the real power, because the Sadist needs the masochist for his own ego and image of self worth-- more than the masochist needs the sadist. If the only reason your little girlfriends sticks around is because your so "dominate" what's to stop her from finding a better looking, richer "dominant"?. You better have more to offer than your male superiority.

I see you go on using debating tricks; here by acting as if you would assume that I have been "beaten" in the discussion. Heh.
When you don't come up with nothing but bullshit I'll say it looks like you are beaten...

The comments I called irrational really were irrational, not to say irrelevant -- just you venting air. Not worth replying to, since you didn't make any points.

Your opinion!

Why would I want to be popular with you? Yeesh.

And why would I care if you feel like that ?

Why would I care what you think or not? Keep your inflated sense of self-worth to yourself. My point, which you seem to miss intentionally, is that I have studied Swedish media, I probably know way more about the subject than you do, so it's just pathetic when you try to lecture me on the subject. "Did you know that it is sent by satellite" -- I mean, come on. You take small pieces of information that you have come across and try to sound as if you know something.

Whatever!

I must be a "boy"? *S*
All of the sudden you act as if I had attacked you, which in fact I hadn't. But you apparently can't stand it when people don't hold hands and sing songs. If an analytic debating climate is too tough for you, then you're in the wrong place.

Well - You certainly feel attacted - next you'll be telling me that you weren't acting like some really broadminded , brainwashed , know-it-all....

This is pretty ridiculous. Nothing I wrote indicated that I didn't see those posts in the thread. And my comment was relevant whether I did or not. You seem to have a slower brain than most people here ... how sad....

Whatever!

"They" got serious research? That sounds like a kid arguing. You don't bring up any actual facts, you just talk about "they," the authority figures, the people in suits who have to be looked up to by all authoritarian-minded little lemmings.

You are in denial !

Too bad you couldn't act in a mature way more than a few posts.
"The industry." Socialist paranoia is just as ridiculous every time you see it. You sit there thinking about "them," the "industry," the "rich," those who "oppress" you, without making any effort to structure society any more than that.
What do you think "the industry" is? Men in dark suits with cigars in their mouths who gather in a room to decide how to manipulate the poor workers? You can't handle the fact that the corporations work independently, and so can't make any concerted effort to change society in any way. Only Jews in Hollywood acting out their collective interests can, and that's a whole different ballgame.

You are in deep denial!

You will have to do a little better than that if you want people to take you seriously in discussions. You evoke a study you have to show it. Studies are as plentiful as rats.

I think the truth is too obvious to waste any time on arguing about studies going on - they even got institutions/places only for that - So I'll say you are in deep denial - purely waste of time trying to wake you up.

Ohh, that proves how powerful those evil capitalists are! They are hypnotizing us all.

I'll say you are in *REALLY* deep denial....

*ROTFLOL*You are trying to tell us that unless you watch every single TV documentary, you're "dorky"? That's actually hilarious.
But hey, keep watching government-owned television. I'm sure it will give you all the info you need from "them" in order to understand the world.

No "Dorky" - you started using the word dork - I'm just playing around with you - calling *you* a dork instead

Oh, please, nobody here cares to see your delusions of superiority, so stop acting as if you would be an authority. You are just making an ass of yourself, and most people who make the effort to come here to debate can slice and dice you without effort if you keep walking on that thin ice.

Whatever!

I can give you a little piece of advice: no matter what kind of shit-for-brain idiots some chatters are, I have never before seen anyone mess around with the quotes from other people. We copy and paste what an opponent has said exactly. You don't do that, your credibility falls like a rock.

And I have changed the meaning of what people said... Where ?????

Eh? "Political" way of attacking problems? You want to twist words when debating with yourself in your own head that's fine, but when talking to others you have to make a little more sense.

One has got to have a brain to make sense of the world.
I got one - I'm not so sure about you! :p

[QUOTE} when you think and open up to some learning [/QUOTE}
*LOL* "open up to some learning." From "them" I suppose, through info from "a French guy," and an unspecified documentary aired on government-controlled television -- you so impress us with your scientific approach!
But if you watch Swedish television, then you're a Swede? In that case, why did you write your first comment about Sweden as if you wouldn't be Swedish? That's just plain childish.

You would know my field(s) of study(ies) and it's/their widespreadness from statements given where ????
And you would be referring to... What ????

*LOL* Considering that you have a posting average of 25 posts per day that's the worst clash between bragging and reality I have seen in a long time! :D
No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here - and since I will not spend my time this way for a longer periode (my time is too precious) I have to make it a short visit....

FIAT LUX

just because women want to get married, move-in, etc, doesn't mean they really want to be intimate with you
And nothing of this makes you think "the world" is totally screwed up ????

I think you make more good observations but I also think you forget that both men and women have been screwed up.....

I am not saying that ALL people are totally screwed up I just think that most modern people is - by the rulerz/medias/whatever.....

FIAT LUX

Secondly, in one of my essays to Mr. Linder, I pointed out that the writing that Thomas G. [I believe that was his name] was submitting was written like a whigger rather than a white man.


This I agree with. T.G. also got lots of facts wrong in his essays about Lindh. His bad writing style should not be confused with Alex Linder's rough style, which is calculated and has a purpose.

Let's make a sum-up of Final Lux's great post, a state-of-the-art piece of rhetoric if I ever saw one!

Your opinion!
And why would I care if you feel like that ?
Whatever!
Well - You certainly feel attacted - next you'll be telling me that you weren't acting like some really broadminded , brainwashed , know-it-all....
Whatever!
You are in denial !
You are in deep denial!
I think the truth is too obvious to waste any time on arguing about studies going on - they even got institutions/places only for that - So I'll say you are in deep denial - purely waste of time trying to wake you up.
I'll say you are in *REALLY* deep denial....
No "Dorky" - you started using the word dork - I'm just playing around with you - calling *you* a dork instead
Whatever!
And I have changed the meaning of what people said... Where ?????
One has got to have a brain to make sense of the world.
I got one - I'm not so sure about you!
You would know my field(s) of study(ies) and it's/their widespreadness from statements given where ????
And you would be referring to... What ????


Woohoo! What a ride, eh? Who can argue with these excellent and well though-out remarks? The facts, the logic, the rhetoric! :D

I don't want FL to develop any more socialist paranoia about the evil right-wing capitalists who control society, so I'll stay clear of that topic. It doesn't seem FL has any points to make about it anyway. Let us instead be grateful for the fact that there are still things to smile at in this world, and to assure ourselves that such is the case I present to you my absolute favorite from FL's post:

"No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here"

And the Lord saw that it was FUNNY! :)

Let's make a sum-up of Final Lux's great post, a state-of-the-art piece of rhetoric if I ever saw one!

Let's see - when one do not wanna waste time on lenghty argumentation where you act bluntly and obviously stupid then you accuse other people of being stupid....

You seem not to read a lot of things and certainly not to respond to them in a proper manner - and mostly what one get's is your "jew media" speech...

I use the word "Whatever!" to let you know that I think what you writes is so utterly stupid and off mark that it don't even deserve an answer - but I guess you are too stupid to understand even that....

You are so obviously in so very deep denial and cannot focus on anything than your "Jew media" argumentation like Jews were the only people in the world....
So , moron! , did you ever hear about the Bilderbergs? (just to take an example) http://www.bilderberg.org/

"No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here"

And the Lord saw that it was FUNNY! :)
I know you are a moron so ofcourse what you wrote above and they way you handle things ofcourse come as no surprise....

The "I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here" is actually some semi reference/semi play on words referring to Buddhism.... But also a reference to the fact that I knows I get caught up in things here when attending a Forum like this and I ofcourse cannot attend other things when caught up in this.....
But don't worry I'll be out of here very soon.

Ofcourse one cannot expect someone as ignorant as you to catch a religious reference.... (atleast you are really ignorant when it comes to exercising religion) but it's nice to know you know how to display your ignorance...

Keep up the moronic posts Fredrik - and give me something to smile at....

FIAT LUX

Let's see - when one do not wanna waste time on lenghty argumentation where you act bluntly and obviously stupid then you accuse other people of being stupid....

Here's a thought: when you are too lazy to argue, how about not posting at all? You know you don't have to reply to everything you see, right?

You seem not to read a lot of things and certainly not to respond to them in a proper manner

Ouch, hitting me where it hurts! Yes, my posts clearly reveal that I don't read a lot of "things." I'm meeltinggg! Your mind must be sharp as a laser when you are able to come up with such relevant insults! :D

You are so obviously in so very deep denial and cannot focus on anything than your "Jew media" argumentation like Jews were the only people in the world....

Funny, that: I have yet to see you write a post that is even remotely inspired by nationalism. Are you a nationalist at all? Come on girl, you can tell us.

So , moron! , did you ever hear about the Bilderbergs? (just to take an example) http://www.bilderberg.org/

Thank you so much for that link. Now let me give you something in return, namely an explanation of how debating forums usually work. It goes like this: people write their arguments and back them up with facts. They do not simply substite "whatever" and "you are a moron!" for arguments. And they do not simply dump a link to some obscure website instead of making their case themselves.

But don't worry I'll be out of here very soon.

Yes, probably with some last comment in the lines of "I have more important things to do than spend time online!" so you can pretend to be superior. Then you'll probably come back under a different handle, give yourself away since your style will be exactly the same as before, and spend a dozen posts denying it. I'm looking forward to seeing that pattern repeat itself again! :cool:


Ofcourse one cannot expect someone as ignorant as you to catch a religious reference.... (atleast you are really ignorant when it comes to exercising religion)

You are right, religion is what this entire thread is about!

Keep up the moronic posts Fredrik - and give me something to smile at....

It makes me shake to the core of my being when you tell us how on top of things you are! *S*

Here's a thought: when you are too lazy to argue, how about not posting at all? You know you don't have to reply to everything you see, right?
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Ouch, hitting me where it hurts! Yes, my posts clearly reveal that I don't read a lot of "things." I'm meeltinggg! Your mind must be sharp as a laser when you are able to come up with such relevant insults! :D
Funny, that: I have yet to see you write a post that is even remotely inspired by nationalism. Are you a nationalist at all? Come on girl, you can tell us.
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Thank you so much for that link. Now let me give you something in return, namely an explanation of how debating forums usually work. It goes like this: people write their arguments and back them up with facts. They do not simply substite "whatever" and "you are a moron!" for arguments. And they do not simply dump a link to some obscure website instead of making their case themselves.
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Yes, probably with some last comment in the lines of "I have more important things to do than spend time online!" so you can pretend to be superior. Then you'll probably come back under a different handle, give yourself away since your style will be exactly the same as before, and spend a dozen posts denying it. I'm looking forward to seeing that pattern repeat itself again! :cool:
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You are right, religion is what this entire thread is about!
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It makes me shake to the core of my being when you tell us how on top of things you are! *S*
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Let's see.... In the post before last.... you made accusations.. and then you just back them up with insult....

For making my case.... listen idiot.. this ain't kindergarten... or school for the blind.... open your eyes.... find someone else with more time on their hands to hold your hand - and no I'm not a girl so I ain't gonna do it anyway - grow up.... Anyway.. through taunting you I've come with a lot questions - you just didn't care to answer them....

And all of your constructive criticism would be where ??? (I mean apart from your Jew media speech!).....

With respect to answering and way of answering then...most of your logic went out the window when I started taunting you for your wievs on girls/women , your "broadmindedness" and your "I have only Jew media on my mind" . Seemingly you didn't catch either that I changed style when you suggested I was really old so I just started treating you like a kid for the fun of it....For to a little kid someone like I must seem really old (ROTFL) ...

Religion? - I guess you were ironic - but wake up butthole - there's religion and politics in everything - but I don't think you'll ever realize that - you are just too darn stupid....

You are of average or a little above of intelligence or plain stupid.... (and I don't care what other people say)
You act generally like some little (too)"broadminded" know-it-all that really thinks you got all your priorities straight but without the intelligence to see that you have not....
You see , Fredrik , there comes a point where intelligent people realizes how little they know , and that for every piece of learning just more questions opens up...... Hhmmmm.... perhaps it's is not so much the intelligence that seperates us as your lack of wisdom - yeah! Fredrik I think you need to concentrate on developing some wisdom - yeah wise up...
Your Jew media speech is very usefull but you see , kid ;-) , you gotta understand/learn where one thing ends and the other begins - you need not one explanation of conspiracy to explain this world - you need more - also you need to understand that seemingly un-connected enteties work hand in hand in organisations like "The Bilderberg group" , "Tri Lateral Commission" and others. Let this guy (and others) jumpstart your brain http://www.davidicke.com/

Like I wrote before , I think you're basically a nice kid - you just needs to wake up....

You are no fun having conversation with cause you lack witt - and since this has come to name calling and mutual insult - I think we should end this crap - I don't care to continue anyway...

Just so you know , when Friday is completely over (Don't know when I turn in) then I'm out of here - not to come back (atleast not for a long time) - and with respect to your guesses - I don't need to hide behind another screen name if I would ever want to be back... (not saying I would use the same everywhere)

But just so you know... the handle "Fiat Lux" ( http://sepwww.stanford.edu/etc/stew/stew1/paper_html/node10.html ) is extremely often (ab)used so don't get any wet dreams just because you see someone else using it.... :P

FIAT LUX

Hehe, poor Fiat Lux. You still resort to dumping links, unable to make any arguments on your own. Yeah, I'm obsessed with Jew media, while I should instead be reading up on how the evil capitalists control us through hypnotic beams from their TV commercials.

Just so you know, we White Nationalists don't believe in conspiracy theories. We believe in behavior shaped by the demands of evolution. Your Bilderberg crap doesn't have an audience here; any real conspiracy would have to be short and small to be successful, as a child could understand. Anything else than that and it will have defectors and simply fall apart due to its own impossibility.

The real issue is how the struggle for survival of one race affects another. Anyway, that's what we WNs think, not so sure how to teach a socialist about that, especially not a socialist who takes propaganda on socialist-controlled government television in Sweden seriously.

As for your talk about intelligence -- oh no, how hurt I am! I am melting all over agaiinnnn.... Clearly, your superior mind can determine the intelligence of any poster, yes I say any poster because that's how good you are, after just a few posts.

For making my case.... listen idiot.. this ain't kindergarten... or school for the blind.... open your eyes.... find someone else with more time on their hands to hold your hand - and no I'm not a girl so I ain't gonna do it anyway - grow up.... Anyway.. through taunting you I've come with a lot questions - you just didn't care to answer them....

*S* Yes, you are so good at carrying on a debate. Give me another "whatever" before you leave, that's my favorite argument from you. Something to ponder long and hard, itz! How come you weren't at the Nobel Prize Dinner? They were only allowed to invite one special guest, and Al Gore had stood in line longer? Aw, big fat bummer! :D

I am very interested to hear that you are leaving. Tell us more about your life, we are all eager to receive more details. I can tell from your posts that you are just dying to talk about yourself, so here's your chance. But when you come back, maybe you'll know not to jump on people who haven't attacked you in any way -- that is, unless you enjoy to be involved in vendetta threads, which I am quite certain you will be seeing a lot of. :cool:

Just so you know, we White Nationalists don't believe in conspiracy theories. We believe in behavior shaped by the demands of evolution. Your Bilderberg crap doesn't have an audience here.
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Anyway, that's what we WNs think

Talk about being delusional - who made you president of WN ???
So speak for yourself idiot.....

not so sure how to teach a socialist about that, especially not a socialist who takes propaganda on socialist-controlled government television in Sweden seriously.

Way off target....

As for your talk about intelligence -- oh no, how hurt I am! I am melting all over agaiinnnn.... Clearly, your superior mind can determine the intelligence of any poster, yes I say any poster because that's how good you are, after just a few posts.

Whatever ;)

*S* Yes, you are so good at carrying on a debate. Give me another "whatever" before you leave, that's my favorite argument from you. Something to ponder long and hard, itz! How come you weren't at the Nobel Prize Dinner? They were only allowed to invite one special guest, and Al Gore had stood in line longer? Aw, big fat bummer! :D

Perhaps I'm a little more wise than you and got better better thing to perform.
Anyway - Nobel Prize Dinner - That's just some morons patting themselves on the back while they hand out prices to those good at sucking NWO dick... You'll probably get one one day you surely sounds insane enough....

Tell us more about your life, we are all eager to receive more details. I can tell from your posts that you are just dying to talk about yourself, so here's your chance.
Curious ??? - fuck off idiot... (only the webmaster knows a little)

FIAT LUX

You know, Fiat Lux, you make it way too easy to point out your irrational nature when you claim that worshipping the cross is a Satanist invention (http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=252&page=3) slipped into Christianity! But I'll reply to you here anyway because I'm such a nice guy. :D

Talk about being delusional - who made you president of WN ???
So speak for yourself idiot.....

Actually, you haven't made a single racialist comment so far...odd, that....
And yes, the general consensus among WNs is that conspiracy theories are bullshit. We resent the fact that the media constantly use the term "conspiracy theorist" as a means to discredit us, e.g. when they write about Kevin MacDonald.


You'll probably get one one day you surely sounds insane enough....

Umm, yeah, Nobel Prize winners are insane...so speaks the true socialist hater of his betters.

Curious ??? - fuck off idiot... (only the webmaster knows a little)

Get real! You really think I was serious? That's almost as funny as this little gem:

"No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here -"

You know, Fiat Lux, you make it way too easy to point out your irrational nature when you claim that worshipping the cross is a Satanist invention (http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=252&page=3) slipped into Christianity! But I'll reply to you here anyway because I'm such a nice guy. :D

Yeah - and you make it easy to see that you have absolutely no true understanding of religion...........

Actually, you haven't made a single racialist comment so far...odd, that....
And yes, the general consensus among WNs is that conspiracy theories are bullshit. We resent the fact that the media constantly use the term "conspiracy theorist" as a means to discredit us, e.g. when they write about Kevin MacDonald.

And you still do not understand anything....
They want to discredit Conspiracy Theorists because the theories are true - that's why - they don't want the thruth to come out...

Umm, yeah, Nobel Prize winners are insane...so speaks the true socialist hater of his betters.

There is only few - if any - better than me kid! So you just go on sucking NWO dick and you'll get your price.....

Get real! You really think I was serious? That's almost as funny as this little gem:
"No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here -"
You have no understanding for the true meaning of the word consciousness - "I AM" - you idiot - and you'll find a lot people behind that one too - (http://www.americanreligion.org/cultwtch/iam.html) - (No idiot! - this is not a link to what I AM - I'm just giving you a snowball's chance in hell to understand how little you understand - I mean this is like telling one born blind about the color green) - but I am writing to a total moron like you that has no "eyes" and no "ears"........ so this is pure waste of time.... fuck off idiot....

FIAT LUX

You are one pathetic, mentally disturbed freak. Why don’t you shut the heck up and stop all your bitching and whining! Go and play with your dolls, little girl. :)

You are one pathetic, mentally disturbed freak. Why don’t you shut the heck up and stop all your bitching and whining! Go and play with your dolls, little girl. :)

Thanks Gabrielle , it's nice to know that not all others here thinks he is all that...

Very sweet of you....

(Comming the end of Friday 12.12.2003 I will not be back here - atleast not for a long time)

Take care..... Kiss!...on my hand blown to you...

FIAT LUX

Yeah - and you make it easy to see that you have absolutely no true understanding of religion...........

Believing that the cross as a symbol of Christianity is secret Satanism -- is "true understanding of religion"? *ROTFLOL* You are more demented than I first thought! I prefer Christian debators to that kind of insanity.

They want to discredit Conspiracy Theorists because the theories are true - that's why - they don't want the thruth to come out...

Conspiracy theorists are the nutcases that make us all look bad. The vast majority of WNs are not conspiracy theorists. What, you believe that the Protocols were written by Jews, too?

And I note that you still haven't posted one single argument to support your Bilderberg conspiracy theory ... just a couple of links. Way to win debates, buddy! :D

On the other hand you can simply go on to substitute "I am so much better than the rest of you, you are all too stupid to understand" for any actual arguments, that works too.


There is only few - if any - better than me kid!

I have learned that -- incredible as it may seem -- those vain, crazy debators who fancy themselves immensely superior to others actually come out and say it after a while, even though it ruins their chances of anyone on the forum ever taking them seriously. Odd, that. I suppose you just can't help it. Maybe we could put you all in the same thread and see what you'll do with each other?


You have no understanding for the true meaning of the word consciousness - "I AM" - you idiot - and you'll find a lot people behind that one too -

*LOL* This is just as funny as the other one! Hmm, let's see if we can put the two together:

No! - but you see - that's my point - I do what I do when I do it - I am not somewhere else when here - You have no understanding for the true meaning of the word consciousness - "I AM" - you idiot - and you'll find a lot people behind that one too -

Wow! Maybe we can make a rap song out of this!

And I note, not without amusement, that you seem to misunderstand Gabrielle's last post. Ah, well. Hope the people at the institution will give you permission to go online again soon, every forum needs its comic relief!

Believing that the cross as a symbol of Christianity is secret Satanism -- is "true understanding of religion"? *ROTFLOL* You are more demented than I first thought! I prefer Christian debators to that kind of insanity.

Like I said You haven't got a clue - and like I wrote earlier , writing to you is pure waste of time - you are too demented

I have learned that -- incredible as it may seem -- those vain, crazy debators who fancy themselves immensely superior to others actually come out and say it after a while, even though it ruins their chances of anyone on the forum ever taking them seriously. Odd, that. I suppose you just can't help it. Maybe we could put you all in the same thread and see what you'll do with each other?

Another totally insane statement from you , yes I consider myself "the best" there is , but what an illiterate insane asshole like you seemingly don't get is that that is not the same as being superior to all others....
I wrote in another place that I am superior to others in some ways (and that's just the truth) I also wrote that I in some ways I am inferior to others. Since you are too insane to understand I won't elaborate .

And I note, not without amusement, that you seem to misunderstand Gabrielle's last post. Ah, well. Hope the people at the institution will give you permission to go online again soon, every forum needs its comic relief!
So what ! Go to hell Moron ! F**k off!

I don't care how much you keep insulting me I am not going to answer to anymore of this..

FIAT LUX

Like I said You haven't got a clue - and like I wrote earlier , writing to you is pure waste of time - you are too demented

So, am I to understand that you have too little imagination, or too little knowledge of the English language, to come up with any good insults of your own? I mean, first you copy "dorky" and now "demented" -- but hey, nice to see that you learn something at least. :p

Another totally insane statement from you

Yes, disagreement with you must surely be caused by insanity!

yes I consider myself "the best" there is

*S* You don't have to repeat yourself ... I think you have made it quite clear what you think about yourself. Like I said, there are always a few of you around ... with the urge to post about your grandeur online, since you can't tell people about it in real life.

Since you are too insane to understand I won't elaborate

Yes, yes, we get it now: sanity is defined by you!
That you can't write any arguments to back up what you say (and no, links don't count as arguments), and that many of your sentences make you look like you have just learned how to write -- well, that can't be the result of any weakness on your part.

So what ! Go to hell Moron ! F**k off!

After you, my friend! But I still wonder why you started all of this in the first place, when you could have stayed civil and enjoyed the forum's hospitality. But hey, that's your choice: you want to make an ass of yourself, you're welcome.

I don't care how much you keep insulting me I am not going to answer to anymore of this..

It's all right, half your sentences would probably have been incoherent anyway. :cool: