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Hugo Böse
August 4th, 2005, 05:33 AM
My girlfriend is a Catholic, and her parents are, I guess you could call them Catholic fundamentalists, they are the types that go from one Mother Mary shrine to the next, they go on pilgrimages, they are involved in all kinds goody two shoes social crap, and they never miss church. Real cultists in other words.

Some things I have observed about the parents, they are deeply naïve, I mean extremely, they are weak and they are also not very confident, and from what I know they have had quite a few traumatic experiences in their lives.

I wonder whether confident, intelligent, rational people are capable of being deeply religious or whether extreme piousness is solely the territory of the weak, defectives and cowards. That is not to say that I think her parents are bad people or that I don’t like them.

The main reason I find pious people suspect is because of the behavior of my girlfriend, with whom I have been together for over eight years. The thing about her is that once she got out of her Catholic school and her parent’s house, most of those Catholic values seemed to have evaporated, the first few years we were together she lied like a drunken gypsy about practically everything and she certainly did quite a few un-catholic things in her past. Of course, now that she over thirty she is finding her way back to jeebus and the pope with a vengeance, how fricken else could it be, I find the hypocrisy in that intensely annoying.

My question is, what the hell do Catholic schools, parents and the church actually teach their young people? Don’t they teach them any common sense, the values of honesty, self confidence, to choose ones friends carefully, self reliance, and that certain actions have consequences in real life, or do they just focus on a bunch of songs, myths and fairy tales that have little value in today’s reality. My girlfriend certainly fits that stereotype of the Catholic school girl to the point, but I haven’t dumped her so far because I fear that things could be far far worse with the mainstream, ultra selfish, guiltless, shameless, lazy, secular women, at least my girlfriend cooks and fetches the shopping, services that I highly value.

Kind Lampshade Maker
August 4th, 2005, 07:03 AM
...I wonder whether confident, intelligent, rational people are capable of being deeply religious or whether extreme piousness is solely the territory of the weak, defectives and cowards...My question is, what the hell do Catholic schools, parents and the church actually teach their young people? Don’t they teach them any common sense, the values of honesty, self confidence, to choose ones friends carefully, self reliance, and that certain actions have consequences in real life, or do they just focus on a bunch of songs, myths and fairy tales that have little value in today’s reality. My girlfriend certainly fits that stereotype of the Catholic school girl to the point, but I haven’t dumped her so far because I fear that things could be far far worse with the mainstream, ultra selfish, guiltless, shameless, lazy, secular women, at least my girlfriend cooks and fetches the shopping, services that I highly value.
I've gotten the impression that they mainly focus on the importance of one keeping his/her-'s act sraight, or else :eek: and that one is to be submissive in all situations. Sermons are vague, leaving interpreting the riddle for the recipient.
One is left to themselves, on other matters

_DC_
August 4th, 2005, 07:29 AM
My question is, what the hell do Catholic schools, parents and the church actually teach their young people? Don’t they teach them any common sense, the values of honesty, self confidence, to choose ones friends carefully, self reliance, and that certain actions have consequences in real life, or do they just focus on a bunch of songs, myths and fairy tales that have little value in today’s reality. My girlfriend certainly fits that stereotype of the Catholic school girl to the point, but I haven’t dumped her so far because I fear that things could be far far worse with the mainstream, ultra selfish, guiltless, shameless, lazy, secular women, at least my girlfriend cooks and fetches the shopping, services that I highly value.

Always remember, any institution that is not explicitly racist today will fall. They will all become anti-nationalist, because the anti-White elements within them will make them so, and the rest won't dare object. The PC crowd in any club always has the advantage that their way works better in the media, and therefore pulls in more people. It's hard to argue with that.

Although there are racists within the Catholic Church, the Church itself is not any longer. Too bad that she is going back to the Church. And you are right, women who are not brought up in a religious home, taken as a whole, are less likely to have good values. The best might be a girl who has gotten out of the church; so she doesn't believe in what it sells anymore, but she still believes in the conservative living. That's something you can work on.

I guess the salespitch should be that "if you want a decent society with those family values your church speaks of, you have to support White Nationalism. Of course your church leaders can't say that, but they know it."

There is no catch-all solution here; even the best of plans doesn't work on all women. I have gone through something similar, though it wasn't with a Catholic girlfriend. I just have to wish you the best of luck.

Hugo Böse
August 4th, 2005, 08:45 AM
I've gotten the impression that they mainly focus on the importance of one keeping his/her-'s act straight, or else
In my view that is huge problem with Catholics, keeping their act straight, the Catholic Church sells redemption and forgiveness like it was 5 cent beer, so whenever these pious Christians pull of a dirty deed they can rest assured that they will still go to heaven as long as they confess to the priest and do the Hail Mary 150 times. The mafia is a good example of this hypocrisy; Mafiosos are known to be very religious.


and that one is to be submissive in all situations.

Ho yeah, from what I have seen they most certainly are, in many cases unbelievably so.

Sermons are vague, leaving interpreting the riddle for the recipient.
One is left to themselves, on other matters

I can imagine that they are, judging by the many utterly corrupt religious people I have met in my lifetime. I have often asked my girlfriend whether they still hold sermons in Latin or what.

My grandparents on both sides long ago ceased going to church because they saw hypocrisy in it and found that the church no longer reflected any real values.

My personal view is that a clean living life and morals, which I view as basically being the simple rules of nature, are not rocket science and do not require a massive hoopla.

Hugo Böse
August 4th, 2005, 09:08 AM
Always remember, any institution that is not explicitly racist today will fall. They will all become anti-nationalist, because the anti-White elements within them will make them so, and the rest won't dare object. The PC crowd in any club always has the advantage that their way works better in the media, and therefore pulls in more people. It's hard to argue with that.

Although there are racists within the Catholic Church, the Church itself is not any longer. Too bad that she is going back to the Church. And you are right, women who are not brought up in a religious home, taken as a whole, are less likely to have good values. The best might be a girl who has gotten out of the church; so she doesn't believe in what it sells anymore, but she still believes in the conservative living. That's something you can work on.

I guess the salespitch should be that "if you want a decent society with those family values your church speaks of, you have to support White Nationalism. Of course your church leaders can't say that, but they know it."

There is no catch-all solution here; even the best of plans doesn't work on all women. I have gone through something similar, though it wasn't with a Catholic girlfriend. I just have to wish you the best of luck.

My girlfriend is moderately racialist, but that is waning a bit, I take most of the blame for that because I often go overboard, especially while she is watching TV, I too often can not help making comments about all the nigger and mud trash and the leftists vomiting out their mindless filth. She says that gets tiring after a while and I agree with her.

I don’t really mind religious women too much as long as they have always followed the moral path, if they have always lived a clean life because of their religiousness I benefit from that and putting up with their piousness is a small price to pay for it. Where this is annoying is when they have a spotty past but still bother one with the pious bull ****, because there really is no benefit other than that they may have somewhat of a guilty conscience and thus may submit and serve one more to make up for it.

Here in Europe, virtually every Catholic church I walk past has posters begging money for the poor niggers in Africa. In my eyes this institution has become very weak in serving the interests of Europe and the White world.

SUNOFSPARTA
September 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Christians are brain damaged, and Catholics are the most brain damaged of the bunch.

The great majority of White people are Christians, and as such you have to Learn how to deal with these "friendlies";even if they follow some strange mystic fantasy cult ideal.

Basically I try to tolerate the white ones and dismiss all the rest.Even with just the white ones(Christians /Catholics) ,they far out number WN.
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Hitler was a Catholic-go figure?

Vikinkur
September 16th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I too often can not help making comments about all the nigger and mud trash and the leftists vomiting out their mindless filth. She says that gets tiring after a while and I agree with her.



Dear racialist friend,

I think that is just another argument say to her to either accept racism or get used to it. It's a trick this, I have experience myself you se.. :D

You can also tell her that It's not your fault it is the jews fault this fucking society, she should not blaim you! Then you ask her what SHE DOES ABOUT IT?

Then buy a luft-waffe uniform to her and get serious. :D

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 16th, 2005, 11:48 PM
My girlfriend is a Catholic, ........... but I haven’t dumped her so far because I fear that things could be far far worse with the mainstream, ultra selfish, guiltless, shameless, lazy, secular women, at least my girlfriend cooks and fetches the shopping, services that I highly value.

You could do worse. You could have a nutty Pentecostal Christian Zionist for a girlfriend who follows a most Judaized form of Christianity instead of the one all the Bible beaters deride as "pagan." You could have a feminist liberal Presbyterian who feels insulted any time you ask her to get you a cup of coffee. You could have some a-religious type that you would have to wonder is she Jewish or not. Try and look at the bright side.

You know there are lots of Catholic girls out there who believe in big families and are willing to have them. Are you man enough to marry a quality girl, if she's so willing and inclined, and start a big White family? Believe me, in the privacy of your home, if you can be the leader, you'll put our tribe first, and find a way to make it work.

Notice that the Jews went after Mel Gibson with all their hateful glee for making his very Catholic movie. Notice the Jews going after Alex and trying to drive a wedge between non-Catholic Whites and Catholics. That won't happen: we Whites will put our race first where the Jew is concerned, and NOT be divided. We have a right to our own ethicity and race, and the way I read it the Catholic Church isnt opposed to that. It better not be since oh what 90% of the saints were and are Europeans, and the last time I checked the Vatican was in Rome, NOT Jewrusalem!

New Order
September 17th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Notice that the Jews went after Mel Gibson with all their hateful glee for making his very Catholic movie. Notice the Jews going after Alex and trying to drive a wedge between non-Catholic Whites and Catholics. That won't happen: we Whites will put our race first where the Jew is concerned, and NOT be divided. We have a right to our own ethicity and race, and the way I read it the Catholic Church isnt opposed to that. It better not be since oh what 90% of the saints were and are Europeans, and the last time I checked the Vatican was in Rome, NOT Jewrusalem!
An excellent summary.
The quote is something we all need to remember. The fact is that the old Catholics were very comfortable with NS Germany and let us not forget Fr Coughlin. Mel and his dad are on the enemies list what better recommendation could they have?

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 17th, 2005, 12:10 AM
I remember once I went to Mass in Milwaukee at a very German parish. Some kids were graduating high school or something, and the priest called for all the parishioners to hold up their hands in blessing. Up snapped the right arms in a Roman salute! It was exhilarating. And very few bent elbows I must say. The Jews fear hate and loathe the Roman Catholic Church, and the Orthodox, as somewhat less cowed than the rest of the Semitophilic, Judaizing sects.

einzelwesen
September 23rd, 2005, 12:01 AM
I don't see why it is that so many of you crap all over RC, and completely fail to do so in the case of Protestantism. The latter is much less reconcilable with a WN viewpoint.

I myself am an ex-RC, so don't think I actually think very highly of either religion.

A few good things about RC, from your perspective:

1: It still believes in moral absolutism. (This can also be bad, but not nearly so much in the face of postmodern relativism.)

2: It's family-oriented above nearly everything.

3: There still exist huge congregations which ARE Euro-ethnically founded and based, all over the world.

It's like, the NA. The leadership may be corrupt, but RC still contains a large number of excellent people who ARE very much worth the effort.

brutus
September 23rd, 2005, 04:06 AM
RE: Right is Right

I take my racism very seriously. That’s the primary reason why I divorced my first wife. Every time I saw the jew nigger filth on TV, I was compelled to critically point it out. And my comments were usually met with, “ Must you always use the N-word?” I drew a cartoon of that oft repeated Hallmark moment of my life and posted it in the graphics forum. A huge bone of contention to say the least. I stayed married to that swine for the sake of the kids. They’re all grown-up now and when the youngest reached 18, I was out of there like a bullet. That was a little over seven years ago.

My 2nd wife, 15 years my junior, is just as racist as I and so are all of her family. I’m in hog heaven! I could never go back to having a wife who would challenge me when I point-out a nigger acting like a nigger or go back to living with a woman who had a speck of Christian compassion for the jew.

You are between a rock and a very hard place. I would have to say dump her and take your chances finding another women.

Go find a clean-living young White woman between the ages of 18-22 years old. A good young White women, who hasn’t been too damaged by the jew can be brought-up to your maturity level rather quickly.

Younger women can be molded to your preferences and beliefs. You say that your current girlfriend is over 30 and you make no mention of children. If you have no children now with her, forget it. She is too old to be having her first child. With a younger women, you will have more time to produce a large and healthy family. Women over 35-40 years old have a higher incidence of producing Downs syndrome (retarded) children. And younger women have more natural energy to devote toward child rearing.

No matter what your age, we all are ever growing, physically, mentally and spiritually. If your mate is not growing with you at the same rate or worse yet, regressing. You are doomed to a life of misery.

If you really want to find out where you stand. Just show your girlfriend this post, if you have the balls.

Hugo Böse
September 30th, 2005, 09:48 AM
RE: Right is Right
My 2nd wife, 15 years my junior, is just as racist as I and so are all of her family. I’m in hog heaven! I could never go back to having a wife who would challenge me when I point-out a nigger acting like a nigger or go back to living with a woman who had a speck of Christian compassion for the jew.

You are a lucky man.

You are between a rock and a very hard place. I would have to say dump her and take your chances finding another women.

At the moment I just have an utterly pessimistic view of what alternatives are out there. At least my present wench is a cheep servant and also fairly attractive.


Go find a clean-living young White woman between the ages of 18-22 years old. A good young White women, who hasn’t been too damaged by the jew can be brought-up to your maturity level rather quickly.

Younger women can be molded to your preferences and beliefs. You say that your current girlfriend is over 30 and you make no mention of children. If you have no children now with her, forget it. She is too old to be having her first child. With a younger women, you will have more time to produce a large and healthy family. Women over 35-40 years old have a higher incidence of producing Downs syndrome (retarded) children. And younger women have more natural energy to devote toward child rearing.

She’s 31.

That is every guy’s dream, but what chances does a 32 year old, fairly well off but not glamourously rich, one quarter bald dude have with women of that age? Seriously, how does one go about finding one of those? I haven’t assessed the market for years.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 30th, 2005, 11:56 AM
RE: Right is Right
.........Go find a clean-living young White woman between the ages of 18-22 years old. A good young White women, who hasn’t been too damaged by the jew can be brought-up to your maturity level rather quickly.

Younger women can be molded to your preferences and beliefs. You say that your current girlfriend is over 30 and you make no mention of children. If you have no children now with her, forget it. She is too old to be having her first child. With a younger women, you will have more time to produce a large and healthy family. Women over 35-40 years old have a higher incidence of producing Downs syndrome (retarded) children. And younger women have more natural energy to devote toward child rearing.
.........

Good advice. Roman Catholic is not this chick's problem. Get one of these Roman Catholics that wants to home school and have a huge family and thinks rubbers and the pill are a sin, and that she's required by religious duty to give you sex. Think about that dude. Catholic v Prot is too wide a category especially in America. You've got to find the right type. Clue: you wont find her in a bar.

Kind Lampshade Maker
September 30th, 2005, 01:19 PM
[B]...Women over 35-40 years old have a higher incidence of producing Downs syndrome (retarded) children. And younger women have more natural energy to devote toward child rearing...If you set up old junk with a young male, the chances of producing a Mongoloid are less. Because it's the combination of the ages of both parents divided by the number of parents which will determine the odds of suffering birth defects.
Young tramps wanna' go out and shop around. Aside from gaining multiple sex experiences, they are either out looking for a meal ticket or to start a career independant from depending on a partner's income

Hugo Böse
September 30th, 2005, 05:32 PM
[QUOTE=Kind Lampshade Maker]If you set up old junk with a young male, the chances of producing a Mongoloid are less. Because it's the combination of the ages of both parents divided by the number of parents which will determine the odds of suffering birth defects.

As far as I know, most birth defects can be detected before birth nowadays, if there is a problem the special one gets flushed.

Young tramps wanna' go out and shop around. Aside from gaining multiple sex experiences, they are either out looking for a meal ticket or to start a career independent from depending on a partner's income

From what I have observed, most young chicks today are too dumb to even look for a meal ticket. The meal ticket thing would at least be a competitive advantage that younger competitors can’t match.

Hugo Böse
September 30th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Good advice. Roman Catholic is not this chick's problem. Get one of these Roman Catholics that wants to home school and have a huge family and thinks rubbers and the pill are a sin, and that she's required by religious duty to give you sex. Think about that dude. Catholic v Prot is too wide a category especially in America. You've got to find the right type. Clue: you wont find her in a bar.

Every time I have peaked into a Catholic church on Sunday all I saw were lots of old women and a very small handful of young women that were either fat, ugly or both, but I’ll take a closer look next time.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 30th, 2005, 05:52 PM
Every time I have peaked into a Catholic church on Sunday all I saw were old women and a very small handful of young women that were either fat, ugly or both, but I’ll take a closer look next time.

Ugh. Dude. You dont try and walk in and score at Mass. Come on. Criminey. Do I have to explain everything to you guys? I suggest you read Elizabeth Bennett's VNN articles. Dig them out of archives. They are a good read, many excellent insights into dating.

The way to meet people of character is to be rooted in your local community. Be physically involved in things. At work, get to know people and be useful to your boss and coworkers. Join a gym or country club or whatever and work out regularly. Join your neighborhood association.

MOre examples of rootedness: Stay in touch with family. Visit your extended family. Get to know your extended family's friends and neighbors. And so forth. Just set on about meeting lots of people. The more people you meet the more likely you are to meet the right gal.

About bars. I dont rule them out completely, but if you're a man try and go with friends. Dont go alone it makes you look pathetic, like you're cruising. What's more is, it's no fun to go to bars alone. You should have comrades.

Gotta go.

Herman van Houten
September 30th, 2005, 05:53 PM
I thought the Vatican didn't recognize the state of Israel, which is good, but I am not sure.

Hugo Böse
October 1st, 2005, 04:29 AM
Ugh. Dude. You dont try and walk in and score at Mass. Come on. Criminey. Do I have to explain everything to you guys? I suggest you read Elizabeth Bennett's VNN articles. Dig them out of archives. They are a good read, many excellent insights into dating.

The way to meet people of character is to be rooted in your local community. Be physically involved in things. At work, get to know people and be useful to your boss and coworkers. Join a gym or country club or whatever and work out regularly. Join your neighborhood association.

MOre examples of rootedness: Stay in touch with family. Visit your extended family. Get to know your extended family's friends and neighbors. And so forth. Just set on about meeting lots of people. The more people you meet the more likely you are to meet the right gal.

About bars. I dont rule them out completely, but if you're a man try and go with friends. Dont go alone it makes you look pathetic, like you're cruising. What's more is, it's no fun to go to bars alone. You should have comrades.

Gotta go.

You are spot on, thank you for that advice, while feeling sorry for oneself it’s easy to forget the common sense causes of ones problems. Lack of rootedness and community definitely have always been a big problem for me.

brutus
October 1st, 2005, 04:26 PM
RE: Right is Right

That is every guy’s dream, but what chances does a 32 year old, fairly well off but not glamorously rich, one quarter bald dude have with women of that age? Seriously, how does one go about finding one of those? I haven’t assessed the market for years.

I found my current wife while she was bike riding. There are plenty of good younger women all over town, all you have to do is stop putting yourself down and look for them. The fact that you are a racially aware White man, makes you a member of a very select and special group. And by virtue of your racial awareness, you are better able and better equipped to provide for a White woman’s genuine needs, more so then any other type of man. You have the genetics that have been finely crafted by nature over millions of years to suit the White woman perfectly. That reality is all inclusion, physically, emotionally and spiritually. A racially-aware White man is perfectly designed for White women, regardless of your hair or lack-of . Even a rather large age difference is irrelevant. You bring to the table the best possible prospects as a viable mate for any White woman. A white woman is hardwired to fall in love with you, and you with her.

Of course, we need not delude ourselves by saying that everything is hunky-dory, and we are well aware that many woman are hopelessly mentally ill with the jew infection. But because you are jew-wise, you can weed-out those sick woman rather quickly and move on to those who you can sense are relatively clean of heart and mind.

Here’s some advice.

Stay out of the malls, they are loaded with mall-rats and forget the bars and the barflies. Go to the WalMarts in the most rural (White) parts of the state and look for the young ladies who are wearing the t-shirts with the Rebel flags on the back. Start-up the conversation by saying that it makes you feel good seeing a beautiful White women who is proud enough to wear the Stars and Bars in public..........See what happens.

Retired
October 5th, 2005, 07:56 PM
SOme of the people that came out of my catholic school were the most messed up. I just went there becuase was either that or a nearly all black public school.