Just a thought, but why doesn't VNN forum become a subscription service??? Say $9.95 or $19.95 per month allows you the privilige of posting in this forum?

The reason I suggest this is twofold. First, the level of freeloading in the "movement" is obscene. By its very nature (everything is free) it allows hobbyists and net nazis to thrive, as well as trolls and generally troublemakers. If the FBI or the SPLC or AIPAC want to infilitrate and monitor VNN let'em pay for the privilige! At any rate, I think an overall improvement in quality will more than make up for a lack of quantity.

Two, there's no reason that VNN isn't generating revenue for its efforts at public education. To keep the main page "free" so that the ideas are disseminated to the public is sensible, but there should also be an income stream to ensure that those ideas can remain "free."

I consider VNN to be a quality website, one that I would pay a monthly rate to be able to access, at least the forum. I would pay for the privilige to post here. For those who prefer "free" there's always SF or some other site. At least here while one would pay they would actually be "free" and "uncensored."

I don't think free speech should have a price. On the other hand, it costs money to maintain a large forum so a Stormfront style donation-subscription isn't such a bad idea.

I don't think free speech should have a price. On the other hand, it costs money to maintain a large forum so a Stormfront style donation-subscription isn't such a bad idea.

Well, in theory that sounds good, free speech without cost, but in reality speech does have its price. If America isn't a case in point I don't know what is.

I view "speech" at VNN Forum as a privilige granted to me by the administrator/owner/moderators of this forum. I don't, in my view, have a right to post here, nor are they obligated to allow me to post whenever and whatever I want. This simply isn't my forum though I do appreciate being a part of it. And I appreciate the relative freedom of posting granted me at this forum. If I want to use the word nigger, fuck or whatever to express myself I'm free to do so. How refreshing, and unusual today.

My point is that for those that value VNN Forum there's no reason we don't pay for the privilige. We have to understand that building media costs money, and we simply aren't going to topple jewish tyranny for "free." Unless WN media starts building capital there simply isn't going to be any White media.

Let me ask this question: how many here would subscribe to say, the Cobb Report, where daily or weekly Chain presents a 30 min or 60 min investigative/media presentation, something like the O'Reilly Factor??? But that is a very time consuming and possibly costly endeavor, at least for Chain. He certainly isn't going to have the advantage of bigtime advertisers to underwrite him, like the media cronies do. My contention is that one way we can measure both the success and viability of our ideology in the marketplace of ideas is how well that ideology sells in the actual marketplace. Are you willing to pay for your media White Man or is the Jewish brainwashing more palatable because it doesn't cost you any shekels out of your pocket, at least directly???

I actually enjoyed the Hal Turner Show and did in fact subscribe to it, before he closed it down. What I think damaged the program was the impression created by Hal and others that he was living off of "donations" to the show which he pleaded for on the pretext that they defrayed the costs of producing the program. Every month there was a plea and the specter of imminent shutdown because he couldn't pay the bills. That certainly wore on me after awhile. Another damaging element was that while donations were voluntary, you could still access the show for free if you listened live. The archives were subscription. So, basically whether Hal ever had as many listeners as he said he did is not so much relevant in so far as that he certainly didn't have as many subscribers as he should have. Freeriding is a fact of life, and just as we pay the jew for just about everything except occassionally the free brainwashing, WN needs to start charging racialists for their freedom. Or is our freedom not worth it?

I would have no objection with Hal Turner or Alex Linder becoming media millionaires, or moguls, providing of course that they continued advancing a White agenda. Again, IMO I like what these people produce, or rather did, I haven't bothered listening to Turner since he's been back, but maybe I will. I sometimes get the impression that racialists think that racialist leaders need to take a vow of poverty. If it is quality and worthwhile I'm willing to vote with my shekels, I mean dollars. I'm doing it now, and unfortunately it all goes to entities or persons my enemy.

The VNN main page is something that you want people to be able to browse and learn from, so charging a fee for admission is in that instance to me counterproductive. But beyond whetting appetites for things White, which to me should be the objective of the VNN main page, after that I feel individuals need to pay.

I remember watching those WR broadcasts and found them amusing. Definitely needed improvement, at least stylistically, but damn what a good idea.

That's the kind of stuff we need. Imagine a VNN Nightly broadcast. I know I'd be watching.

Again, those kinds of things are going to cost money, and without advertisers lining up, who's going to pay?

That's why I support the idea of charging for Forum participation. See what happens and where it might lead to.