Here is a slightly off the wall question, considering most of the bands listed here are the usual WN Metal/Oi etc. Does anybody know about Ian Curtis's political leanings? Was he a nationalist? I know that he was a Tory but supposedly he also wrote a nationalist song that was never recorded.

I know that early on, they used a lot of Nazi imagery, and I believe the name Joy Division refers to prostitutes kept in concentration camps for the inmates. But I think they just used it for shock value; they certainly wouldn't be the first band to do so.

Sorry Spandau, it was actually Ian Read who wrote the song that Current 93 recorded. It was my mistake. But considering Ian Curtis' Tory leanings (who as you well know used NF rhetoric to win elections because, well, you first informed me of that), it would not be unreasonable to assume he was indeed a nationalist despite his love of bohemian literature. Well, not necessarily despite. As far as I know there's nothing multi-culti in William S. Burough's writings, although they are fairly degenerate in terms of drugs and homosexuality. It is paradoxical that Curtis would love authors such as Buroughs and Gysin and still be very politically conservative. But he was. If he were still alive, I'm sure he would be none too pleased with the brownwog and nigger situation in the UK today. I don't know how New Order feels about it, but then again they were never the heart and soul of Joy Division, Ian was.

Yes, When Ian died the Heart went out of Joy Division and they became the mediocre New Order. At least they changed the name. I agree about if he were alive now. I just can't seem to get my mind around the thought of a "Multi-Culti" Ian Curtis. Maybe he would of sang about how it is now with-"I feel it closing in! I feel it closing in! Day in! Day Out! Day in! Day out! Day in! Day out!"-Digital.

I know that early on, they used a lot of Nazi imagery, and I believe the name Joy Division refers to prostitutes kept in concentration camps for the inmates. But I think they just used it for shock value; they certainly wouldn't be the first band to do so.

From what I know, they never apologized for the use of the name or the imagery that they used. They did get alot of stick for it.

About bands and the National Socialist meanings of their names, for those that remember the '80s new-romantic band Spandau Ballet, their name was taken after the name the German guards of Spandau prison gave to the jerky motions the prisoners made while being hanged during the war.

About bands and the National Socialist meanings of their names, for those that remember the '80s new-romantic band Spandau Ballet, their name was taken after the name the German guards of Spandau prison gave to the jerky motions the prisoners made while being hanged.

Actually I heard from a German Army veteran that when prisoners (Not POW's) were shot, it was a "Spandau" that did it. A Machine Gun. So their little dance while being shot was called "Spandau Ballet". Either way it's pretty good black humor. Who says the Germans have no sense of humor? I remember Spandau Ballet the band. Actually their first LP "Journeys to Glory" is really good. At the time they called their music: "White European Dance Music"! :eek: So there was talk of them being....... gasp........ Nazi's! Then they proceded to turn mediocre (at best).

I'm sure a German veteran of that time would know the facts. I think I read it in the fan magazines, which are never accurate.