"In Christ, the embodiment of all manliness, we find all we need. And if we occasionally speak of Baldur, our words always contain some joy, some satisfaction, that our pagan anecestors were already so Christian so as to have indications of Christ in this ideal figure."
--Dietrich Eckart "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin: a conversation between Hitler and myself" 1924

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.”
–Adolf Hitler, 12 April 1922

"The National Government ... regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
--Adolf Hitler, Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933

"The struggle we face is, at its core, a struggle between Marx and Christ"
--Joseph Goebbels

"Naturally there are always people at work who represent a type of provacateur, who have come to use because they imagine National Socialism to be something other than it is, who have all kinds of fantastic and confused plans, who misunderatand National Socialist racial thought and overstate their declaration to blood and soil, who in their romantic dreams are surronded by Wotan and Thor and the like. Such exaggerations can harm our movement, since they make the movement look ridiculas."
--Herman Goering "Positive Christianity", November 3, 1935

"We have not fought to build a paganistic temple, but to unite the German volk for all eternity. We do not build temples against the Christian church, we do not want Valhalla as a substitute for a Christian heaven."
--Bernhard Rust, Prussian Minister of Education and culture; July 1, 1934

"We are no theologians, no representives of the teaching profession in this sense, put forth no theology. But we claim one thing for ourselves: that we place the great fundelmental idea of Christianity in the center of out ideology- the hero and sufferer Christ himself stands in the center."
--Hans Schemn, Head of the NS Teacher's League, 1931

"Christ is the genius of love, as such the most diametrical opposite of judaism, which is the incarnation of hate. ...Christ is the first great enemy of the Jews..That is why judaism had to get rid of him. For he was shaking the very foundations of its future international power. The Jew is the lie personified. When he crucified Christ, he crucified everlasting truth for the first time in history."
--Joseph Goebbels

"We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question, rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls...We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideals of Christianity.....in fact out movement is Christian."
--Adolf Hitler, 27 October 1928

"[We] relentlessly fight the shaddy mixing of religion and Jewish party politics, and fight to keep religion pure, as did the lord when he threw the hagglers and usurers out of the temple."
--Julius Streicher "Kulturkampf", March 10 1924

"When point 24 of our program says the party stands for a postive Christianity, here above all is the cornerstone of our thinking. Christ preach struggle as did no other. His life was a struggle for his beliefs, for which he went to his death. From everyone he demanded a decision between yes and no...That is the necessity; that man find the power to decide between yes and no."
--Walter Buch, "Geist and Kampf", Chairman of the NS party courts

"Just as Christianity only prevailed through the fanatical belief of its followers, so too shall it be with the spiritual movement of National Socialism."
--Walter Buch, 1931

Thanks for posting, very interesting.

Christians and many non-christians seem to think that Jesus was some kind of weak, mild-mannered pussy. nothing could be further from the truth.

http://www.volcano.net/~jackmearl/ebooks/barton/2.htm

Early in his boyhood, Jesus, as the eldest son, went into the family carpenter shop. The practice of carpentry was no easy business in those simple days. Doubtless, the man who took a contract for a house assumed responsibilities for digging into the rough hillside for its foundations, for felling trees in the forest, and shaping them with an adze. In after years those who listened to the talk of Jesus by the Sea of Galilee, and heard him speak of the "man who built his house upon a rock" had no doubt that he knew what he was talking about. Some of them had seen him bending his strong clean shoulders to deliver heavy blows; or watched him trudge away into the woods, his ax over his shoulder, and return at nightfall with a rough-hewn beam. So he "waxed strong" as the narrative tells us – a phrase, which has rather been buried under the too frequent repetition of "the meek and lowly" and "the lamb." As he grew in stature and experience, he developed with his personal skill an unusual capacity for directing the work of other men.

There are those to whom it will seem almost irreverent to suggest that Jesus was physically strong. They think of him as a voice, a presence, a spirit; they never feel the rich contagion of his laughter, nor remember how heartily he enjoyed good food, nor think of what his years of hard toil must have done to his arms and back and legs. Look for a minute at those thirty years. There was no soft bed for his mother on the night that he entered the world. He was brought forth in a stable, amid animals and the animal-like men who tended them. He was wrapped in rough garments and expected, almost from the beginning, to look after himself. When he was still an infant the family hurried away into Egypt. On the long trip back, some years later, he was judged old enough to walk, for there were younger children; and so, day after day, he trudged beside the little donkey, or scurried into the woods by the roadside to find fuel. It was a hard school for babyhood but it gave him a hardness that would be an enormous asset.

An unruly animal threatened to break through the bars, and a part of the crowd fell back with cries of terror. A moneychanger with the face of a pig leaned gloatingly over his hoard. The young man had picked up a handful of cords from the pavement and half unconsciously now was braiding them into a whip, watching the whole scene silently.



And suddenly, without a word of warning, he strode to the table where the fat moneychanger sat, and hurled it violently across the court. The startled robber lurched forward, grasping at his gains, lost his balance and fell sprawling on the ground. Another step and a second table was over-turned, and another, and another. The crowd, which had melted back at the start, began to catch a glimmering of what was up, and surged forward around the young man. He strode on, looking neither to right nor left. He reached the counters where the dove cages stood; with quick sure movements the cages were opened and the occupants released. Brushing aside the group of dealers who had taken their stand in front of the cattle pens, he threw down the bars and drove the bellowing animals out through the crowd and into the streets, striking vigorous blows with his little whip.



The whole thing happened so quickly that the priests were swept off their feet. Now, however, they collected themselves and bore down upon him in a body. Who was he that dared to this act of defiance? Where had he come from? By what authority did he presume to interrupt their business? The crowds gave way again at the onslaught; they enjoyed the tumult as a crowd always does, and they hated the priests and robbers; but when it came to answering for the consequences, they were perfectly willing to leave it to him.



And he willingly. He stood flushed and panting, the little whip still in his hands. His glance swept scornfully over the faces, distorted by anger and greed.



"This is my authority," he cried. "It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations,’ but ye have hade it a den of robbers."

Christians and many non-christians seem to think that Jesus was some kind of weak, mild-mannered pussy. nothing could be further from the truth.
[QUOTE]Early in his boyhood, Jesus, as the eldest son, went into the family carpenter shop. ...
Yeah Steve, and Athena sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus and Apollo rides the chariot of the sun across the sky every day, and all the rest of it.

There is no historical evidence that any such person as Jesus Christ ever existed. The only 'proof' comes from the gospels. That's identical to finding proof that the holohoax existed in 'survivor' testimony.

Why not make him a good boxer too? And he's all for peace and turning the other cheek and loving his fellow men and we are all brothers. All includes niggers and spics, Steve, I believe? And yet he is also for war and for the volk... when ...the propagandists who make up this baloney feel that it might be a good idea to have additional angles with which to rope in other segments of the proposed 'target' audience.

As to the NSDAP leadership on Christ, believe it or not, though indeed it is my understanding that the Fuhrer considered himself to be a legitimate follower of Christ - that following had NOTHING to do with organized Christian churches. And in regard to many of the other leaders quoted, well politicians say a lot of things in public that they actually don't mean! The private statements of many of these guys - # 2 Himmler in particular and # 1 Hitler too, about what they intended to do to and with the organized Christian denominations in Germany after the conclusion of a victorious war....why not quote those remarks? Why not quote Himmler on pre-Christian forms of worship? And most importantly, the most recent quotation you provide (and from Goring, the ultimate opportunist too!) is from 1935. The NSDAP only consolidated power in 1934 you know. Before that they were speaking to the 'electorate.' How about some similar quotes from AFTER they had achieved power, eh? They might be QUITE difficult to come by.

If I recall correctly, Dietrich Eckart played virtually no role in actual National Socialism. And quoting the most famous adulterer in the Reich leadership - Goebbels - a cynical, totally non religious intellectual, and even more, Goring, the ultimate amoral opportunist - is hilarious. They were both totally for the sanctity of marriage, the inviolability of the German home and the need for idealism just as much, if not more so, than they were for the Christ fetish. At least they were on paper, and or in front of ah...shall we say...naive (?) audiences.

A major problem for the NSDAP leaders working toward eradicating Christianity (# 2 Nazi Himmler in particular) was the counter propaganda coming from the village pastor or priest. And so, before and during the war Himmler met great resistance in ending the use of the Christian marriage ceremony and replacing it with a Teutonic pagan version instead. After the end of a victorious war, things would have moved much faster and Christianity would have disappeared even quicker than it is already doing at this very moment. Ending the Christian marriage ceremony among the nation's elite military forces is a sure sign the NSDAP leadership was all for Christ, right?

The jews don't feel they need you guys as a front organization any more, so they are retiring the most successful of all their frauds and replacing it with what it has always actually been - judaism.

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Christianity is a religion that defends the weak and the low
It is purely Jewish and oriental in origin
It forces people to bend their backs to the sound of church bells and crawl to
the cross of a foreign god
It began 2000 years ago among sick, exhausted, and despairing men who had lost
their belief in life
The Christian tenets of forgiveness of sin, resurrection, and salvation are
plain nonsense
The Christian view of mercy is a dangerous, un German idea
Christian love is a silly concept because love paralyses men
The Christian idea of equality protects the racially inferior, the ill, the
weak, and the crippled

Adolf Hitler

Whether it's the Old Testament or the New, or simply the sayings of Jesus,
it's all the same old Jewish swindle. It will not make us free. You cannot
make an Aryan of Jesus; that's nonsense.
-- Adolf Hitler.

Yeah Steve, and Athena sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus and Apollo rides the chariot of the sun across the sky every day, and all the rest of it.

There is no historical evidence that any such person as Jesus Christ ever existed. The only 'proof' comes from the gospels. That's identical to finding proof that the holohoax existed in 'survivor' testimony.

Why not make him a good boxer too? And he's all for peace and turning the other cheek and loving his fellow men and we are all brothers. All includes niggers and spics, Steve, I believe? And yet he is also for war and for the volk... when ...the propagandists who make up this baloney feel that it might be a good idea to have additional angles with which to rope in other segments of the proposed 'target' audience.

The jews don't feel they need you guys as a front organization any more, so they are retiring the most successful of all their frauds and replacing it with what it has always actually been - judaism.

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Well Gott, thats a mouthfull. Just because I quoted from Bartons book, The Man Nobody Knows doesn't make me a Christian. I'm no Christian. Never have been never will be. I quoted from Bartons book because I think he gives an interesting perspective on a man that in my opinion did exist.

Now we can go round and round on this "did Jesus exist" question all day long and never reach a meeting of the minds, as they say. But their are historical references to Jesus. The historian Josephus and the Talmud clearly mention Jesus. Now I know you're going to say: "THOSE ARE JEWISH SOURCES". Well you're right but thats who mainly populated that area we now call Palistine 2,000 years ago. We could look to Roman historians of that time for reference but the Romans weren't in the habit of keeping records of every jew carpenter they nailed to a cross so we're stuck with the jew source. So you can disbelive or believe or whatever. I'm not here to convince you. I don't really care one way or the other.

What I am going to point out is your convoluted logic concerning Judism and Christianity. If I understand you correctly, you believe that the jews made up Jesus to fool the gullible goyim. Had this made up fella call their high priests vipers and sons of satan, turn over their money tables in their temple, conspired with the Roman to have this fake dude wacked, had the fake dudes fake disciples write fake gospels that portray the jew leadership as spawns of satan and basically created another religion to rival and surpass their own headed by a guy who never existed...just to fool those silly goyim? Bit of a stretch isn't it Gott? Especially when you consider all the heat the beanie boys have taken throughout history for snuffing out the Christian messiah.

Maybe I'm reading Gotts theory of jew/christian religion wrong. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

How so ? Can you explain yourself a bit ?

Are you saying that there was no man named Jesus who lived in Palestine during the days Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, and that the Bible is not a true story or are you simply saying that Jesus was not White ?

And I noticed that in your previous posts you say that equality is a Christian idea. Where do you get that from ? What scripture ? Can you name from where in the Bible you found that ? The book chapter and verse if you don't mind please...

Hi saxonrage and Steve,

Yes, I'm saying that there was no such man as Jesus who lived in Palestine during those or any other days. And I've yet to see any proof to the contrary presented except that which is in the gospels. Not a hint from a single historian of the time.

I was replying to Steve about this a minute ago and was almost done, when my damn cat jumped on the keyboard and erased the entire thing. A 'sign' no doubt from on high. Days are getting desperate when Jesus or the Holy Ghost, or whoever is in charge of this department, is reduced to speaking through tabby cats.

At the heart of my reply was a long quote from Edward Gibbon's The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in which he sarcastically remarks that not a single person in the entire upper strata of the Roman Empire even mentions the miracles that are everywhere in the New Testament - all those incredible breaks in the laws of physics that occurred, so say the gospels, during the life of Christ and at his death. Pliny the Elder died because he was so curious that he had his ship take him to Pompeii so he could investigate the incredible things that were happening because of the eruption...but the same man, so interested in the workings of the world that he risked and lost his life to look into them, doesn't even mention the day turning into night, the blind made to see, the lame to walk, the dead to rise??? Neither Pliny the Elder, nor anybody else. Except the gospels, which were written long after the fact.

If the Gospels lie about the many miracles reported, then they might very well also lie about what caused them - IE the fetish object JC.

I didn't say that equality is a Christian idea in my previous post - Adolf Hitler said it. I don't waste my time reading jew writings either. If I want fairy stories, I'll read Greek, Roman or Teutonic ones where the characters are Aryan like me and not dirty, gross, alien, slimy jews.

You mean, the scriptures, or gospels, etc. don't say we are all his brothers, they don't admonish us to turn the other cheek, they don't say that the meek shall inherit the earth??? My my, how the Catholic and Protestant churches have gotten it all wrong, eh?

But then again, that's probably the oldest scam in the jew-christian or christian-jew book...it's always the 'bad' Christians that seem to be saying the things that might screw up suckering in the next batch of recruits. No, no, we 'right' Christians are just like you guys and Christianity 'really' stands for exactly the same things that you do. And that is how the birthday of the Persian Sun God Mithra became Christ's birthday and how all the Christian religious holidays are simply stolen from earlier polytheistic ones. The jews we all hate, oh, they aren't the bible jews! Oh no! They are the 'bad' jews that stole it all from the 'good' jews, etc., blah, blah, blah....

Amazing how these are the exact tactic used by the jew from times immemorial. Always make your pitch so ambiguously, so fragmented, that it can, with the right push, mean virtually anything to virtually anybody under the right circumstances.

"THOSE ARE JEWISH SOURCES"
and, they are both long after the time when JC was supposed to have lived. They are not first hand at all. I'd like to see the Josephus quotations if you have them.
In another post here, I mentioned Gibbon's remarks on this subject and brought up Pliny the Elder who spent his entire life writing something like 1200 books (?!?) all about the natural world and was super curious about that world, and yet he never mentioned any of the miracles that supposedly occured when and where ever the Jesus show was playing. Neither did anyone else.

If I understand you correctly, you believe that the jews made up Jesus to fool the gullible goyim. Had this made up fella call their high priests vipers and sons of satan, turn over their money tables in their temple, conspired with the Roman to have this fake dude wacked, had the fake dudes fake disciples write fake gospels that portray the jew leadership as spawns of satan and basically created another religion to rival and surpass their own headed by a guy who never existed...just to fool those silly goyim?

Bit of a stretch isn't it Gott? Especially when you consider all the heat the beanie boys have taken throughout history for snuffing out the Christian messiah.

Maybe I'm reading Gotts theory of jew/christian religion wrong. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

It's no stretch at all for me, Steve. My ancestors worshiped Jupiter and Wotan. And no such person or entity as a Jesus Christ figures as the progeny of either in any of the liturgy of those Gods. Now, a jew god, Yahweh, does figure as the father of Jesus Christ and his mother was a jewess. If I'm not mistaken, of his 12 disciples, all were jews. And from my readings in history, most of the converts to this religion for quite a long time were recruited from jews. And then of course, certain Christians will step up with their tortured arguments that Mary was not a jew, that Paul was not a jew, etc. Or that they were the 'real' jews while the current jews are the 'bad' fake jews, ETC forever. All, of course, without a single scrap of hard copy, physical evidence, or logic in sight.

Logic points to Christianity as nothing more than a heretical break-away jewish sect. And then when it turned out to have great commercial potential, it simply became big business in the same way that sex became pornography and history became propaganda, etc, with the jews. Another entirely internal jewish scam - to sucker the goys.

As to the logic of setting up a business that would cause such suffering to fellow jews, when the jews who set up this jew sect did set it up, they had no idea it would pass beyond the confines of...jews. As to the hatred engendered toward judaism by Christianity - read your holohoax history books Steve, and you will see that for the most part, the Germans turned over the running of the concentration camps to the jews themselves because they knew that only jews could be as pitiless to each other as they were to everybody else. Not only do jews not care if other, poorer, powerless jews suffer for whatever reason, but, that suffering is also central to the entire jew world view. It keeps jews jews, walled off, always threatened by outsiders.

Anyway, this has been written about a lot and by people much more up on it than I am. I see no contradiction in it at all though - it makes perfect sense to me when I look at the object of this discussion. Which is perverted, illogical, self-despising, hoping-for-death jews. It is always a mistake (I think) to apply the laws of Roman/Teutonic logic to this subject because the jews don't operate the way we do. Part of what makes them so completely alien.

Hi saxonrage and Steve,

Yes, I'm saying that there was no such man as Jesus who lived in Palestine during those or any other days. And I've yet to see any proof to the contrary presented except that which is in the gospels. Not a hint from a single historian of the time.

I was replying to Steve about this a minute ago and was almost done, when my damn cat jumped on the keyboard and erased the entire thing. A 'sign' no doubt from on high. Days are getting desperate when Jesus or the Holy Ghost, or whoever is in charge of this department, is reduced to speaking through tabby cats.

Hi Gott, I see that Saxonrage has provided you with historical references to Jesus. He seems quite a bit more learned on the subject of biblical matters than I so I'm going to let the heavyweights duke it out while I stand back and lead the cheering section.

By the way, did you ever think your kitty might be possessed by the evil spirit of Abe Foxman?

This is worth another thread. Revilo Oliver suggests JHC was a composite of Hellenized Jewry, which the Priests and Pharisees opposed for the usual Jewish reasons for opposing anyone or anything sensible.

What matters is not the literal fact of his existence or non-existence or the literal fact of resurrection or not, but what those mean for us as symbols.

A symbol has its own existence and superficial meaning, always, on the material level, with corresponding meanings in higher spheres.

Looking at the literal existence of Jesus as so important is like living in Flatland. Ever read that book? It would be a worthwhile read for both Christians who are obsessed with "proving" His existence, and also for many of the atheists who consider the question of ultimate importance. Religion is not science. Those who treat it that way are really missing the boat.

The New Testament contains twenty-seven separate documents which were written in the first century A.D....

Just as I said in my initial post - the only evidence is from jews.

These facts were recorded by eyewitnesses, who gave firsthand testimony to what they had seen and hear.

This, is almost too fucking surreal to be true - I mean that you would use such an 'argument.' Recorded by eyewitnesses, eh? First hand testimony, eh? Well, first off, again totally consistent with the argument I made which you are supposed to be refuting, you are quoting JEWS, buddy. And, on my part I'll quote a few 'christians' starting with Schopenhauer - the jew is the embodiment of the lie...or how about Martin Luther. Is he 'christian' enough for you? You know, the Martin Luther who titled his last book THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES? Guess what - JEWS LIE. Jews lie all the time and about everything...the jew IS the lie. Some fucking 'refutation so far.

This disgusting 'argument' - IE 'first hand accounts and eyewitness testimony' is the entirety of the 'proof' that there was a holocaust, ya know? Amazing coincidence no doubt that todays super growth jew scam - the holohoax - is using the exact methodology as yesterdays super growth jew scam - christianity. Of course, it is no coincidence as the two are one and the same, and that is the principle reason why your jew masters are 'retiring' your quaint little hocus pocus act today. They don't need you as a front for their foul death-oriented garbage anymore as the world is so debased by it that we are, it seems, ready for the real thing, unadulterated by any front group. Just as they feel they can now afford to run openly jew candidates for high office instead of hiding behind Aryan traitor puppets, they also don't need a puppet religion and can just use the real thing - judaism. Eyewitness accounts! Yeah, I've spent my life reading about the eye-witnessed miracles of electrocution disks sinking into water and diesel gas murder vans and soap etc.

for those of you who don't believe the Bible, the existence of Jesus is recorded by the Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus, who was born in A.D. 37 "More of your fantastic refutation...another JEW.

Cornelius Tacitus (A.D. 112), a Roman historian, writing about the reign of Nero, refers to Jesus Christ and the existence of Christians in Rome (Annals, XV, 44), Tacitus, elsewhere in his Histories, refers to Christianity when alluding to the burning of the temple of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. This has been preserved by Sulpicius Severus (Chronicles 30:6).

The above is gibberish. The emperor Nero was assassinated in 69 AD, the earliest date for the Annals I've ever found is 109 AD. QUITE a difference, don't you think? If this cult fetish fantasy object of yours, one Jesus Christ, supposedly died some vague time during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius, who expired in 37 AD, then the Tacitus remark you are referring to was made approximately 80 years after the death of the person in question. 80 years. That's identical to me - historian Gott - mentioning a poor son of a poor carpenter who lived in a small town somewhere outside Padukah in 1920. Of course I cite NO documents, I quote NO sources, I can refer you to NO other histories which corroborate my remarks, I can point to NO grave site, etc. ...I just mention this person in passing. That sure is proof alright.

There are other references to Jesus or His followers, such as the Roman historian, Seutonius (A.D. 120) in Life of Claudius, 25.4, and Lives of the Caesars, 26.2, and Pliny the younger (A.D. 112)

Only 120 AD, eh? Why he was writing just about the day after the crucification now wasn't he? And the actual, pitiful quotations from these historians too. NO references, NO first hand accounts, nothing but repetition of the PR work that is the christian religion. All they 'prove' is that christianity had stuck around and was growing - amid the dregs of society. All they are are reputable historians repeating, briefly and with virtually NO amplification, the standard church line on all this hogwash.

And so, parking the bullshit - my point was:

1. Outside of jew sources there are absolutely NO contemporary accounts of this Christ person. NONE WHATSOEVER. And of course, absolutely no other proof on any kind, such as physical evidence.

You provided ONLY JEWISH contemporary references.

And all the non-jew references - which are extremely cursory in the sources cited anyway - were, exactly as I said, written long, long after the event and do not include any hard copy whatsoever.

IN other words, you simply repeated my post but tried to spin it to say what the evidence cannot say. The fact is, only jews mention Christianity for a few entire generations after this person is supposed to have lived and changed the world.

Lastly - the gospels...you know where all that eyewitness stuff is? How about that eyewitness stuff - you know raising the dead and making the sun stop shining...curing the blind and lame? The argument that why should any historians mention a poor carpenter's son is just more JEW slime, buddy. How about Gibbon's point that wouldn't ANY decent historian report the day the sun stopped shining in the sky? Or the dead were brought to life? It's only the truly rare carpenter's son who can do that, after all.

So, provide me with the citations from CONTEMPORARY historians in which these miracles - sworn to by the same 'eyewitnesses' who sworn to all the other Christ bullshit - are reported upon.

It doesn't matter if he existed. We've Gott to deal with his ghost, for better or worse, whether he was real or not.

That's true, but it's also true that there is this thing called...truth. And Aryans love the truth. The argument can and is made that 'faith' is all that is needed to believe in the holohoax too. That facts are unnecessary. I will not go along with that. The jew holohoax is a foul murderous lie and so is christianity.

Yes christianity is here, and is a fact. It is also a fact that is is fast dying - and that can be proven in many ways. Christianity is for high birth rates and most christian countries - white ones - have super low birth rates as do American white christians. No one listens to that hogwash, believes it or really cares. They call themselves christians as long as it costs nothing to do so. It is totally nominal, except for the wackos. And they fight with and hate each other most amusingly.

Why don't these CI clowns go to their actual churches and preach white christianity to their brethren? Because they'd get their asses kicked out the door before they could do the stations of the cross on their knees, that is why. That's how 'pro white' christianity is. Oh, the CI christianity of 15 persons...yeah, they are real pro white, as long as everybody else kiss their totalitarian asses.

I'll go to the Gibson movie and cheer and yell and boo in all the right places, I'll even go a few times and take a book to read in the lobby. I'll do my bit, but only to fuck the jews. The christians had all the power in the world for 2000 years and we are where we are mostly because of it. Some moron on the main page mentions that christianity has only been genocide for white people since the 19th century! Well, isn't that fucking nice! Only a hundred years or so. And only the most recent hundred years. Well, I'm where I am because of those hundred years and I blame those who were on watch. They had their chance and humped the bunk big time.

Plenty of Egyptian religions, and others too, lasted vastly longer than christianity. Christianity is DEAD. And good riddance.

Biblical literalism is for fools. I will concede that the actual existence of JHC is dubious.

But what isnt dubious, is that Jews are the most evil vermin the Earth has known. The only thing one could possibly imagine worst than their long list of depredations mostly on our ancestors, is that there would be a supremely good god, who made himself incarnate, and then the evil Jews figgered out he was that, and so manipulated the government into executing him. Pretty good story huh?

I dont rule out that a Jew can create fine art. I think for the most part, it doesnt happen. They are the back-room guys, the moneylenders, the administrators, sometimes the salesmen. They are rarely the Divo strutting on the stage, and for all their "composing" and so forth, the majority is schiess.

But occasionally they concoct a good story, dont they? Particularly when observing us. Case in point: "Hoosiers," a movie about a bunch of small town White boys playing basketball the way it is meant to be played, and whipping a bunch of inner city groids for the Indiana State championship-- back in 1952 or so, produced and directed by a Jew, Syd Polluck-- who grew up in Indiana, btw, and was a student at the SB Central the very year the movie was set in; and who also coincidentally was an actor, playing a greasy Jew, in the Stanley Kubrick movie "Eyes Wide Shut," which well depicted the deeply corrupt cabal-ridden Jew society, and how one White man might react both with curiosity and revulsion if showed the inner workings of it.

Forget about Christianity for a second: what does Gott think of Jew directors Kubrick and Polluck?

Now if a Jew makes up a good story, what's wrong with an Aryan using it? Sure we're the most creative race, but I dont hesitate to eat peanut butter just because they say a high yeller invented it.

Mithras: what you speak of is for the initiated and to speak of it to the uninitiated is mostly "casting Pearls before Swine."

Vlad: how do you know religion isnt the glue for holding the anthive together?

Symbols have meaning and usefulness. Numbers are symbols and they are very useful, though they do not "exist" except only in the literal ink on the page, and only in the values they denote.

Vlad, I have a book for you, if you like biology and consider yourself a materialist. It is called "Presence of the Past" by Rupert Shelldrake. It is a book about metaphysics and the author's hypothesis of causality called "morphic resonance." It gathers various phenomena from quantum mechanics to biology to sociology, which are considered anamalous to our present scientific understandings of the relevant disciplines, and advances a possible explanation which would if adequately explored through the scientific method would lead to a revolution or paradigmatic shift a la Thomas Kuhn.

in print, available through amazon.

Take a good hard look at that book. I'd like to discuss it here but I doubt many have read it.

I dont suggest it to people who are fixiated on religious literalism, but for atheist-materialist ideologues, you may find it opens up new intellectual possibilities for you.

Bullshit. You are swine for all you do is complain. My aim is to reeducate the swine so that they don't stay that way. Aryans should not act like a bunch of fucking kikes. That is the whole goddamn problem. Too many whites acting like kikes.

You are a big talker arent you? Plenty of big talkers on a message board. It's pretty kikey to call people names from the safety of a geographic distance and internet anonymity. How Aryan of you.

Hey Saxon,
Went to your site http://www.churchofthesonsofyhvh.org/britain.htm. Interesting stuff but not much different than most of the CI websites I have viewed.

I find the idea of Jesus being a White man from a competing tribe of Israelites intriguing but as I'm not a religious person I don't have any emotion about the subject one way or another. I simply like to read and learn.

What I did like about your website was the David Cole docu-drama at Auschwitz. For any WN who hasn't seen it, do! Very professionally done and full of insight.

For those few WN's who don't know who David Cole is he was young Jewish Revisionist filmmaker who came to the defense of Ernst Zündel when Zündel needed defending. Zündel and Cole made a film in Auschwitz, with David Cole pointing out all the things wrong with that theme park of hate against Germans. Of course that didn't make the JDL very happy so Cole was physically beaten and had his life threatened by the Jewish Defense League.

Hey, thanks jews!

View Coles Auschwitz meg here. http://www.reportersnotebook.com/video/david_cole/david_cole_high_resolution.wmv

If it doesn't work then go to http://www.churchofthesonsofyhvh.org/britain.htm and get it from there.

Would be interesting to see linders take on Cole. If he hasn't done so already.

Now I ask you if the Bible and Christianity is Jewish then why would the Jews include such a line that they can construe as anti semetic ? In fact it makes no sense at all that folks assert that Christianity is Jewish and the Bible is a Jewish book when in so many places the words of Christ speak out against this Satanic breed of Vipers... It makes no sense whatsoever...


www.churchofthesonsofyhvh.org

Saxon, you have a lot of courage to endure the kinds of attacks you have received on this board in defense of your faith. Whether Christianity has Jewish roots is irrelevant because it was later made Aryan. The Popes of the Middle Ages hated Jews so if Christianity was a Jewish plan it certainly wasn't accomplishing their goals at all. The majority of White Christians all over Europe and America had hostile attitudes toward Jews until the 1960's..that's only 40 years ago so obviously Christianity in itself doesn't make anyone Pro-Jewish. The Hungarian Fascist organization of the 1930's and 1940, The Arrow Cross, was comprised entirely of Catholic memberships.

So traditional Western Christianity is NOT PRO JEWISH.

two eye witness accounts
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/9150/jesus.html

another link with artist impressions,its likely that the traditional looking jesus came down through the ages from decriptions of the early church fathers,artists used these in their paintings,i think he looked much as they portrayed him.jews have always critisized his image as not looking jewish enough.
http://www.israelsregathering.org/jesusdescription.htm

Great link..I have seen the letter from Pontious Pilate in the library of congress. In fact I wrote them and was sent all of the information regarding this letter and a copy...Its stuffed deep away into my files.probably take me weeks to find it...

That 'letter' from Pontius Pilate (you might at least have spelled his fucking name right) is a laughable fake, exposed as such literally hundreds of years ago. But any MORON should be able to see right through it instantly just by reading it and then using that certain something which the devout seem to utterly lack: a brain. Try reading Edward Gibbon on the subject - he flays you assholes alive. Being a charter member of the imaginary kike on a stick 'silly little cult' you'd probably enjoy being flayed. Saves you the trouble of doing it yourself with stinging nettles, or razor wire, back in your cell, or cave, or where ever the fuck you christians are doing what ever the fuck you do these days for kicks. Yikes, what a bunch of lepers.

Tertullian wrote that absurd letter buddy. Whaddayafuckingknow! A Pillar of the Church, a Saint (I suppose) - LYING!!! How fucking un-christian, eh, dear brother?

Why don't you tell me about the 'donation of Constantine' now??? Another sterling example of the utter filth of your jew religion in which no behavior is too low nor any lie too base.

Now go say a prayer for me like a good little jerk.