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Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Coming shortly...

Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 10:20 PM
[Perfect example below of the cowardly and dishonest way jews and their allies operate. Very Soviet-like.

First, local Truman State (TSU) affiliate, Giovannini, attempts to dig up dirt about me through a relative. Then, another professor, Julie Lochbaum, spreads the Big Lie that I've called for killing Catholics. This a typical jewish attack: it is a flat-out lie, intended to get me wasting time rebutting it. VNN has moderators who are Catholics, and sides with pre-Vatican II traditionalists, for those of you wondering about our position.

Note that one meeting was held on Sept. 14th. I did not know about this meeting until today, the 9/16/05, or I would have confronted these liars and schemers. But, it looks like there will be more chances!

Anyway, what we will have in this forum is a case study in jewish dishonesty, jewish lying, and jewish stringpulling, and I will fight it until we win.]


To: <maryg@truman.edu>
Subject: RE: FW: Preserving the welcoming spirit of Kirksville
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:46:34 +0000
CC: <alinder@kvmo.net>

Hi Mary--Alex Linder is my nephew and a good person. I'd describe him as a
free-thinking intellectual whose intellectual honesty and courage have led
him to some politically incorrect views.
Based on my limited knowledge (and interest) his views fall within the
limits of free speech and diversity of opinion that society and universities
supposedly encourage. I doubt his views are completely right or wrong and I
assume he can debate and
defend them.
Anyone can contact Alex at the above address. [a relative of mine]

>From: "Giovannini, Mary" <maryg@truman.edu>
>To:
>Subject: FW: Preserving the welcoming spirit of Kirksville
>Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 08:39:15 -0500
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>[X] can you give me any information about Alex Linder? The community
>is very concerned about these actions of his and his group. If you could
>give me some insight, it would be helpful.
>
>Thank you so much.
>
>Mary G.
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>From: Larry Whitney [mailto:lewhitney@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Fri 9/9/2005 6:42 AM
>To: Baldwin, Carl; clbceb@kvmo.net; EJCOY1223@webtv.net; Giovannini, Mary;
>genemo@capecod.net; genemo1@comcast.net; HBO@kvmo.net; vancere@brick.net
>Subject: FW: Preserving the welcoming spirit of Kirksville
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>Larry E Whitney
>Century 21 Whitney Agency Inc
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[the following emails are a list of pretty much all the movers and shakers in this small town of 17,000. they are bankers, real estate people, academics, media reps, hospital people]

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> From: "Sweet, Annette Crain" <ASweet@ameren.com>
> To: <execdirector@cableone.net>, "Anita James" <ajames@kvmo.net>,
><adairredcross@sbcglobal.net>, <frickandcundiff@sbcglobal.net>, "Ben
>Hickman (Business Fax)"
><IMCEAFAX-Ben+20Hickman+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-2152@ameren.com>,
><wcastles@cableone.net>, <bill.ciehanski@hollister.com>, <bill1@kvmo.net>,
><wlymer@dfckc.com>, <wmurray@truman.edu>,
><the.behnen.family@sbcglobal.net>, "Bob Dager" <bu15@truman.edu>,
><brenda@bankofkirksville.com>, <bmotter@marktwain.net>, "Bryan Collier
>(Business Fax)"
><IMCEAFAX-Bryan+20Collier+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-7250@ameren.com>,
><cboughton@cableone.net>, <adaircom@sbcglobal.net>, "Darla Campbell -
>UMExt" <campbelld@missouri.edu>, <davidshoush@nemorpc.org>,
><projmgr@cableone.net>, <dwestern@cableone.net>, <lawhill@marktwain.net>,
><kirksvillesears@hotmail.com>, "Ed Carpenter" <ecarpent@truman.edu>, "Galen
>Jennings" <jenningsgm@dfckc.com>, <gcroarkin@kirksville.k12.mo.us>,
>"Harriet Beard" <beards@cableone.net>, <janedwards@century21.com>,
><jjarrett@cableone.net>, <ilspazio@yahoo.com>, "Jennifer Barnes, Mo Ext."
><barnesje@missouri.edu>, <mjwill@socket.net>, "Joann King"
><jking@cableone.net>, "Jon Broce - HyVee" <jkbroce@aol.com>, "Joyce
>Montgomery - KV R3" <jmontgomery@kirksville.k12.mo.us>,
><kellylovekampllc@cableone.net>, "Ken Read (Business Fax)"
><IMCEAFAX-Ken+20Read+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-0805@ameren.com>,
><baiottok@missouri.edu>, <kimlebaron@cableone.net>,
><larrywhitney@century21.com>, <FarrFrazee@aol.com>, "Linda Grgurich"
><lgrgurich@pfh.org>, "Mark Whitney" <mwhit63501@aol.com>,
><citymanager@kirksvillecity.com>, <mmagers@dfckc.com>,
><mschwend01@pfh.org>, <tmsteele@kvmo.net>, "Monnie Harrison"
><mharrison@kcom.edu>, <norman@bankofkirksville.com>, "Penny Miles - NMCAA"
><pmiles@nmcaa.org>, <pete.detweiler@alliantbank.com>,
><philtate@cableone.com>, <Ranee_Brayton@chs.net>, "Rick Armstrong"
><rmcpick@swbell.net>, <robert.l.henselman@usbank.com>, "Roger Rosenberg"
><Roger@lonepineridge.com>, <ron@whitneyharrison.com>, <winkler@wcs1.com>,
><stmcollins@yahoo.com>, <lcook@cableone.net>
> CC: <lochbaum@truman.edu>
> Subject: Preserving the welcoming spirit of Kirksville
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:26:47 -0500
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>
> An interesting message from Julie Lochbaum at TSU. Discouraging a local
>hate group's presence in Kirksville certainly seems important. Hopefully
>some of us can investigate steps to combat the growth of such an
>organization in our midst. I normally don't take fringe groups seriously,
>but having our community's name associated with this group is bad news for
>all of us.
> Thanks
> Annette Sweet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lochbaum, Julie [mailto:lochbaum@truman.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:02 PM
> Subject: a message about preserving the welcoming spirit of Kirksville
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> Dear Friends,
>
> I want to tell you about an issue that's pretty uncomfortable to talk
>about, but it's an important issue and we should talk about it. You may
>have seen a white supremacist/neo-Nazi newspaper called Aryan Alternative,
>which has been distributed in Kirksville and in cities throughout the
>country. You may have been one of the people attending the high school
>musical, Fiddler On The Roof, last year who received an unwelcome flyer [sic -- TAA is a newspaper, not a flyer] on
>your car windshield courtesy of this organization. The editor, Alex Linder,
>is a Kirksville resident. He also has a website (Vanguard News Network)
>that is viewed by people all over the country and, in fact, all over the
>world. Both the newspaper and the website prominently state that he is
>headquartered in Kirksville. He has connections to other white supremacist
>groups and seems to be building a following. Linder and his followers are
>working to coordinate a nationwide distribution of the next issue of the
>newspaper, which could bring national attention to our community. I don't
>need to add that this would be the wrong kind of attention, wiping out the
>work so many have done to promote our area. He has already brought
>attention to us by way of an editorial in the Columbia, Missouri paper
>stating that Linder's views should go back home to Kirksville because they
>don't belong in Columbia.
>
> Linder's group hates African Americans, Hispanics, Jews, Catholics,
>Asians, gays and lesbians, and he openly states that members of these
>groups should be exterminated. [sic] This open exhortation to kill people who are
>members of these groups is what sets Linder's organization apart from
>others who 'merely' denigrate. [sic] Right now, Linder and his followers are not
>a large presence in Kirksville, but as he builds support, he may attract
>more of his followers to our area.
>
> This issue should concern everyone, not just those who are members of a
>minority group targeted by Linder. The Kirksville community is surprisingly
>diverse for its size [sic - Kirksville is over 96% white], and people feel safe making Kirksville their home. In
>fact, the safety of our area has been touted as one of our economic
>advantages. [joke] The presence of an active hate group in the area will not only
>make many people feel unsafe living here, it will also make it difficult
>for businesses to attract workers from outside the community, for the town
>to attract new industry, and for the university and medical school to
>attract students and faculty. At Truman, fully 27% of our students
>self-identify as being Roman Catholic. What will parents think when their
>students are considering Truman if a group advocating killing Catholics
>resides here? [sic - This is a deliberate Big Lie. VNN does not and never has advocated killing a single Catholic. The jew, or fellow traveler Lochbaum, attempts to build a coalition by lying about VNN's position.] Can we afford to put at risk 27% of our Truman student
>rental income, or 27% of Truman student sales receipts? And this is just
>the percentage of Truman students who fall into one category that Linder's
>group hates.
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> I'm tempted to ignore the Aryan Alternative and hope it will go away, but
>am afraid that if we wait and allow these attitudes to grow and spread, if
>we say nothing and let a small group of people think we agree with them,
>they will attract followers and there will come a time when it is too late
>to speak up. We can't wait for someone else to deal with this problem; we,
>as a community, must deal with ourselves and we must deal now.

[Interesting. One small paper will convert the whole community. You can see how deep Lochbaum's faith is in "diversity." She fears, correctly, that TAA makes good sense, and will win people over. Because we speak the truth.]

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> Over the next several months, an emerging group called "Citizens United
>Against Hate" [sic -- Jews and Dupes Against Whites] will be presenting a series of seminars and discussions. On
>September 14, Karen Aroesty, Regional Director of the Anti-Defamation
>League, will be giving two presentations. At a luncheon talk at Truman, she
>will discuss the current state of hate groups in the Midwest, particularly
>in Missouri, and in the evening, she will give a talk at the First
>Christian Church on what communities have done and can do when faced with
>hate groups. I hope you will attend and will encourage your friends and
>colleagues to do so too. Attached is a flyer advertising these two
>gatherings. Please feel free to print it out and post. And then, please
>come to one or both of the meetings.
>
> Thanks for your attention to this long e-mail. See you on the 14th.
>
> Julie

[I was not invited to attend either meeting, though I write and act under my real name, in public, and have done so for five years. "By way of deception" is the way creatures of the dark like Lochbaum operate.]

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> Dr. Julie Lochbaum
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> Director, Center for Teaching & Learning
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> Truman State University
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> 100 E. Normal St.
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> Kirksville, MO 63501
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> 660-785-4477
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> "I believe at that moment my teacher thought me into being." Helen Keller
>to Alexander Graham Bell

Frank Gunn
September 16th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I'm tempted to ignore the Aryan Alternative and hope it will go away, but am afraid that if we wait and allow these attitudes to grow and spread, if
we say nothing and let a small group of people think we agree with them,
they will attract followers

They already know that the TAA is truth, that's exactly what they're scared of. Fuckin-A these attitudes will grow and spread!

They can sense that they’re just one more Katrina away from societal collapse, and their glass house will be obliterated.

Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM
sent to: lochbaum@truman.edu

Dr. Lochbaum --

Would you care to back up your claim that I advocated killing Catholics? In fact, I've never advocated such a thing.

You must retract your false and malicious lie.

I would have been happy to appear before your meeting and discuss my paper. Instead you chose to smear and attack me.

You denied me the chance to defend myself.

If you continue to spread lies about me privately, I will continue to tell the truth about you publicly.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=273728#post273728

I demand that you retract your false and defamatory statement.

Alex Linder

Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 10:45 PM
They already know that the TAA is truth, that's exactly what they're scared of. Fuckin-A these attitudes will grow and spread!

They can sense that they’re just one more Katrina away from societal collapse, and their glass house will be obliterated.


You better believe it. It comes down to this: are we such chickenshits that we're going to let the jews and their niggers push us out of our own country? Yes or no?

Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 11:24 PM
Rumor has it that public library computer around here was open to VNN... it had to be one of our papers breaking through..

Alex Linder
September 16th, 2005, 11:30 PM
What blacks do to a small town...

In this thread, from a local Kirksville forum hosted by KTVO, the local ABC affiliate, we read about a white teen who's roped into selling drugs by outside niggers of the very sort that Lochbaum & friends claims will bring a wonderful diversity to our community, and certainly not make locals feel unsafe, like evil TAA/VNN.

I know the kid also.....and I would have to say he has an attitude problem thinks the world owes him something....started to hang out with the black crowd over by the YMCA*......next thing he knows.....he has cops all over him......serves him right.....He worked at McDonalds as a shift supervisor......that is probably the business he was selling the stuff out of.......


http://users.boardnation.com/~ktvotv/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=369

* there is about a 20-unit apt complex a couple hundred yards from the YMCA. There were a number of coloreds living there a couple years ago when I drove by. This is federally subsidized housing, I believe. So the local real estate criminals are worried about my paper because it advocates the interests of the ordinary white people who make up 90+ percent of Kirksville, whereas they like the federally subsidized rents, and don't care about the "negative externalities" of the niggers filling their units.

This is how communites are destroyed.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 16th, 2005, 11:31 PM
Good letter Alex. As you know, I'm a practicing Roman Catholic. Alex is my personal friend and I know he bears no special animus towards Roman Catholicism beyond what critique he might make of other Christian sects as an honest White atheist. Alex has shown interest in the history of Jewish attacks on the Roman Catholic Church, and he's given plenty of free ink to defenders of the Roman Catholic faith. If people disbelieve that they can scroll through my 12,000 posts or so and see if I have been stifled in any way whatsoever. The gall of these liars! I am the most, the MOST prolific poster at Alex's forum, and a moderator. So to me this person is a liar, whereas Alex is honest as a person as I have met in five years or so since I have known him.

Far as I remember, the most vitriolic thing Alex has ever said is "death to Jews" which considering all of the Jewish crimes against humanity, INCLUDING KILLING CHRIST, is an understandable sentiment. I feel a deep animus against Jews as well, and when I think of them spitting on crosses and Orthodox priests and bishops in Israel, or the way that they have promoted abortion, or the way that Jewish-bolshevik butchers in Communist Russia killed over 30 MILLLION Ukrainian Orthodox, I feel very, very upset and angry. Now the Jews appeal to Catholics. The gall of these liars! They who attack the Roman Catholic Church day after day in their Jew newspapers! They call Pius XII a nazi, they call for reparations, they call for access to Vatican archives. They claim they are excused from conversion by their own twisted interpretation of Nostra Aetatae. They slap you and cry out in pain! Amazing! Boy, the Jews have had a long run in the USA getting Catholics to fight the natives, and they never tire of trying the same old tricks do they? Divide and conquer, divide and conquer. Always, the Jew wants us to fear the next White tribe over, wants us to fear the Muslim, fear the the WASP, fear the Mel Gibson Catholic today, appeal to the Catholic tomorrow. What a lowly, craven group of liars, cheats, and frauds the Jews and their lackeys are.

Alex Linder has as much right to exercise his First Amendment rights in Kirksville as any Jew, Catholic, gay, straight, Mormon, atheist, black, or college administrator. Alex has as much right to be in Kirksville as any illegal immigrant, that's for sure. And Roman Catholics of European ancestry-- White Catholics-- have just as much right to our own ethnic identity as any other ethnicity or race. I've got as much a natural and moral and legal right to state my pride for my White race as any black or Mexican that is for sure and I would not let some lying nobody tell me who I can and can't be friends with!

I think it's sad that Truman State allows its name to be smeared by irresponsible people like this. Do the Jews think that the citizens of Kirskville are second class citizens unable to exercise their own independent judgments without Jewish coaching?

Sean Martin
September 17th, 2005, 12:07 AM
What does " [sic] " mean?

germanSlave
September 17th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Not sure if it fits in here,just a reminder again
I guess this includes just the superrich among them
List of Jews in business
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
This page is a list of Jews. Jewishness has the meanings both of "adherence to the religion of Judaism" and "membership in the ethnic group 'Jews'." (For more, see Who is a Jew?.) People of both groups are listed here. By other criteria, these people may be listed under other ethnicities as well.

This page does not differentiate among denominations of Judaism. Individuals listed may only partially be of Jewish ancestry (though that is noted). They may have never practiced Judaism, and may even have adopted another faith, or may be secular or even openly atheist.

Rabbinic law defines a Jew as a person with a Jewish mother, where the first Jews are defined to be those who entered the covenant at Mount Sinai, as described in the Biblical narrative, even though the person may be non-practicing and even not acknowledge himself or herself as a Jew. Others would identify as Jewish somebody with a Jewish father only, even though by Orthodox tradition, such a person is not. This list takes the widest view to include most individuals who might be in some way considered Jewish, but attempts to note such issues in order that more restrictive definitions may be applied by the reader based on their own opinions or interpretations of the issue.


Australia
John Gandel, bilionaire owner of Northgan Gandel Group
Peter Ivany, Australian Media Mogul, earned his fortune running hyots cinemas world wide
Frank Lowy, billionaire owner of Westfield Holdings and Westfield America
Richard Pratt, billionaire owner of Visy Industries
Harry Triguboff, billionaire owner of Meriton Apartments
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Belgium
Alfred Lowenstein, Belgian soldier, aviator, sportsman, entrepreneur
[edit]
Canada
Israel "Izzy" Asper broadcasting magnate
David Azrieli, Polish-born Canadian-Israeli multi-millionaire
Peter Bentley, Chairman of Canadian timber giant Canfor Corp. (son of Holocaust survivors, won restitution case from Swiss bank regarding seizure of father's business in Germany)
Samuel Bronfman, Ukrainian-born Canadian founder of Seagrams Distilleries
Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Canadian original owner of Seagrams Distilleries
Edgar Bronfman, Jr., Canadian-U.S. owner of Vivendi Universal
Charles Bronfman, billionaire part of Bronfman Family
Garth Drabinsky theatrical producer and entrepreneur
Daryl Katz, billionaire founder of Katz Group of Cos. Pharmacy chain
Mike Klein, Canadian-born investment magnate
Paul Reichmann, Canadian real estate magnate
Barry Sherman, billionaire founder of Apotex
Alexander Shnaider, billionaire co-founder of Midland Group
Jeffrey Skoll, billionaire co-founder of EBay
Moses Znaimer, Tajikistan-born broadcasting magnate
[edit]
China
Michael Kadoorie, billionaire owner of CLP Holdings
[edit]
France
André Citroën, French automaker of Citroën
Marcel Dassault, billionaire French industrialist
Girard Louis-Dreyfus, billionaire owner of SA Louis-Dreyfus & Cie (jewish father)
Henry Kahnweiler, art dealer and promoter
Jien-Pierre Meyer, Deputy Chairman of L'Oreal cosmetics
Alain & Gerald Werthheimer, billionaires owners of Chanel
Pierre Wertheimer co-founder of Chanel
Daniel Wildenstein, major French art dealer and horse breader
[edit]
GermanyThat's my home,I know tons of Jew Millionairs in Germany
Issachar Berend Lehmann, banker and patron of the Jewish communities in Halberstadt and Dresden, Germany
Mayer Amschel Rothschild, German banker, first of the Rothschild family
Ron Sommer, CEO of Deutsche Telekom
Max Warburg, German banker
[edit]
Israel
Shari Arison is Israel's richest citizen and owns Bank Hapoalim. She is the daughter of the late Ted Arison.
Morris Kahn, billionaire founder of Amdocs
Lev Leviev, Russian-born Israeli diamond billionaire
Daniel M. Lewin, Israeli Internet entrepreneur
Arnon Milchan, billionaire film producer
Summy & Juli Ofer billionaires co-owners of Royal Caribbean Cruise
Isaac Tshuva, Israeli billionaire
Stef Wertheimer billionaire founder and owner of Iscar
[edit]
Mexico
Saba Isaac Raffoul, billionaire owner of Grupo Casa Saba
[edit]
Russia
Roman Abramovich, Russian billionaire
Boris Berezovsky, Russian billionaire
Mikhail Fridman, Russian billionaire
Vladimir Gusinsky, Russian billionaire
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Russian billionaire
Victor Vekselberg, Russian billionaire
[edit]
Spain
Isaac & Nahman Andic bilionaires founders and owners of Mango
Isaac Carasso, Spanish founder of Danone group
Alicia Koplowitz, billionaire president of Omega Capital
Esther Koplowitz, billionaire ownes Formento de Construcciones y Contrates
[edit]
South Africa
Donald Gordon, billionaire founder and owner of Liberty Life
Harry Oppenheimer, South African diamond and gold mines billionaire, (became Christian)
[edit]
Switzerland
Fritz Hoffman founder of Hoffman-La Roche
Oeri, Hoffman and Sacher families billionaires, Roche pharmaceutical fortune
[edit]
the United Kingdom
Jack Cohen, British businessman, founder of Tesco supermarkets
Joseph Duveen, British art dealer
Brian Epstein, promoter of The Beatles
Donald Gordon, billionaire founder of Liberty Life
Philip Green is a British billionaire businessman who owns some of the United Kingdom's largest retailers including British Home Stores, and the Arcadia Group. He has also made two unsuccessful takeover bids for Marks and Spencer, an icon of British retailing.
Naser Khalili billionaire art dealer and collector
Allen Klein, business manager of the Rolling Stones and the Beatles
Robert Maxwell, British communications magnate
Moses Haim Montefiore, Italian-born English financier, philanthropist and Zionist
Paul Julius Reuter, German-born British media owner (originally Israel Beer Josaphat)
Nathan Mayer Rothschild, British financier and philanthropist
Eduard Shifrin, billionaire co-founder of Midland Group
[edit]
the United States
Leonore Annenberg, billionaire owner of TV Guide and Triangle Publications
Philip Anschutz, founder and chairman of Qwest Communications International, and acquired United Artists Theaters, and Regal Cinemas
Edmund Ansin, billionaire owner of TV Stations
Ted Arison, U.S.-Israeli billionaire, founder of Carnival Cruise.
Micky Arison is the Chief Executive Officer of Carnival Corporation & PLC.
Sheldon Adelson, is a 71 year-old billionaire property developer in Las Vegas. He took Las Vegas Sands Corp. public in December 2004 by selling 10 % of the shares. He was born and raised in a Jewish neighborhood in Boston, Massachusetts.
Steve Ballmer, U.S. CEO of Microsoft (Jewish mother)
Carl Berg, billionaire real estate and investments
Arthur Blank, billionaire co-founder and co-owner of Home Depot
Leonard Blavatnik, billionaire sharehoder in TNT-BP Sual and Access/Renova
Michael Bloomberg, Billionaire, U.S. politician, founder of Bloomberg News
Neil Bluhm, billionaire owner of JMG Realty
Donald Bren, billionaire real estate
Sergey Brin Russian-born U.S. co-founder of Google
Samuel Bronfman founder of Seagram Co
Edgar Sr Bronfman, billionaire
Edgar Jr Bronfman, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Warner Music Group
Sid Bernstein, promoter, "The Man That Brought The Beatles to America"
Chess brothers, Polish-born U.S. record company executive
Eli Broad is a billionaire who lives in Los Angeles California.
Harvey Chaplin, billionaire owner of Southern Wine & Spirits of America
Steven Cohen, billionaire founder of SAC Capital Management hudge fund
Lester Crown, billionaire main shareholder in General Dynamics
Joshua Lionel Cowen, U.S. toy inventor and manufacturer (Lionel trains)
Mark Cuban, U.S. billionaire owner of Dallas Mavericks, founder of Broadcast.com (sold to Yahoo!).
William Davidson, billionaire owner of Gurdian Industries
Clive Davis, U.S. founder of Arista Records
Michael Dell, U.S. founder of Dell Inc.
Barry Diller, billionaire owner of Usa Networks Ticketmaster
Stanley Druckenmiller, billionaire, famous for his "billion dollar bet against the British pound in 1992 that generated 30% returns for George Soros
Larry Ellison, U.S. CEO of Oracle Corporation (adopted by Jews)
Max Factor, Polish-American cosmetics industrialist
Paul Fireman, billionaire founder of Reebok aerobic shoes
Donald Fisher founder of The Gap
David Geffen, U.S. record executive
Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of Real Networks, makers of Real Player
Guiford Glazer, real estate shopping centers
Malcolm Glazer, billionaire owner of First Allied Corporation shareholder of Manchester United
Leslie & Louis Gonda, billionaires shareholders in AIG insuarance and real estate
Alex & Tom Gore, billionaires leveraged buyout
David Gottesman, billionaire founder of First Manhattan (unconfirmed)
Pincus Green, billionaire commodities trader
Maurice Greenberg, billionaire main shareholder and ex chairman of AIG
Alan Greenspan, U.S. economist, chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve
Maurice R. Greenberg, billionaire, CEO of AIG
Andrew Grove, Hungarian-born U.S. co-founder of Intel
Leona Helmsley, real estate
Carl Icahn, billionaire who Took over TWA and controlled it until 1993, also owner of Lowestfares.com
Irwin Jacobs, billionaire co-founder and main shareholder of Qualcomm
Jeffrey Katzenberg, billionaire co-founder and co-owner of DreamWorks SKG films production
Charls Koch, billionaire who runs Koch Industries
David H. Koch, oil billionaire who runs Koch Inudstries
Fred Koch, founder of Koch Industries
Jerome Kohlberg leveraged buyout co-founder and co-owner of KKR
Bruce Kovner, billionaire, started Caxton Hedge Fund and is American Enterprise Institute Vice Chairman
George Kaiser, billionaire owner of Kaiser-Fransis Oil
Michael Krasny, billionaire founder and owner of CDW Computer
Henry Kravis, billionaire, American financier co-founder and co-owner of KKR
Edward Lampert, billionaire, founder of EPS Investments
Leonard Lauder, billionaire co-owner of Estee Lauder cosmetics
Ronald Lauder, billionaire co-owner of Estee Lauder cosmetics
Ralph Lauren, billionaire founder and chairman of Polo Ralph Lauren Corp fashion
Thomas Lee, billionaire leveraged buyout
Samuel J. LeFrak & family, billionaire, major developer in downtown Manhattan
Gerry Lenfest owner of Lenfest Communications cable TV
Norma, Randolph and Nancy Lerner, billionaires main shareholders of MBNA Financial
Morris Levy, U.S. music industry executive
Peter Lewis, billionaire owner of Progressive Corp car insuarance
Alfred Mann, billionaire owner of Mankind Corporation
Bernard Marcus, billionaire co-founder and co-owner of Home Depot
Michael Milken, billionaire leveraged buyout
Roy Neuberger, U.S. art dealer of Neuberger & Berman
Samuel I Newhouse Jr, Billionaire who owns 26 Newspapers such as Parade Magazine, Conde Nast, Vogue etc.
Donald Newhouse is one of the owners of Condé Nast Publications.
Bernard Osher, bilionaire co-owner of Golden West Financial
William S. Paley, U.S. billionaire who built CBS
Nelson Peltz, billionaire Triarc Companies leveraged buyout
Ronald O. Perelman, billionaire, chairman of the board of Revlon Inc. and Products Corp.
Ron Popeil, U.S. inventor (Jewish father)
Abram & Jack Pritzker founders of Marmon Group
Pritzker Family, 11 billionaires owners of Hyatt hotels and Marmon Group
Sumner Redstone, U.S. CEO of Viacom
Charles Revson, Revlon cosmetics
Mark Rich, billionaire commodities trader
Robert Rich, billionaire shareholder of Rich Products Corp
George Roberts, billionaire leveraged buyout co-founder and co-owner of KKR
Arthur Rock, billionaire venture capitalist
William Rosenberg, U.S. founder of Dunkin Donuts
Helena Rubinstein, Polish-American cosmetics industrialist
David Sarnoff, General Manager of RCA corporation
Haim Saban, billionaire, television producer (Mighty Morphin Power Rangers) and media mogul
Henry Samueli, billioaire co-founder and owner of Broadcom
Marion & Herbert Sandler, billionaires co-owners of Golden West Financial
Howard Schultz, entrepreneur, joined Starbucks founders in 1982 and bought it in 1987
Robert Shapiro, former CEO of Monsanto
Evgeny Shvidler, billionaire shareholder of Sibneft oil production
Zev Siegal cofounder of Starbucks
Melvin Simon, billionaire owner of Simon Property real estate shopping malls
George Soros, Hungarian-born U.S. billionaire, investor, philanthropist
Steven Spealberg, billionaire co-founder and co owner of DreamWorld SKG films production
Leonard N Stern, Billionaire, Manhattan real estate mogul who owns the Soho Grand, and Tribeca Grand Hotel in Manhattan
Alfred Taubman, billionaire Sothbeys action and shopping centers
Laurence Tisch, U.S. billionaire, owned CBS
Preston Robert Tisch, U.S. billionaire, owned several companies with his brother including CBS
Paul Warburg, U.S. banker, Federal Reserve founder and board member
Sandy Weill, U.S. billionaire, chairman of Citigroup
Leslie Wexner, billionaire main shareholder of The Limited
Stephen Wynn, billionaire casinos
Samuel Zell, billionaire chairman of Equity Residential Properties Trust
Daniel Dirk Robert Ziff, billionaires owners of Ziff Davis Publishing
Mortimer Zuckerman, billionaire owner of New York Daily News and US News and World Report
This is just a few we are allowed to see,There are tons of other Worldwide cooperations worldwide,down the ladder plus stockholders of non Jew Companies.In other words,everything nice in Jew hands.My God is everybody out there braindead?
Good letter Alex. As you know, I'm a practicing Roman Catholic. Alex is my personal friend and I know he bears no special animus towards Roman Catholicism beyond what critique he might make of other Christian sects as an honest White atheist. Alex has shown interest in the history of Jewish attacks on the Roman Catholic Church, and he's given plenty of free ink to defenders of the Roman Catholic faith. If people disbelieve that they can scroll through my 12,000 posts or so and see if I have been stifled in any way whatsoever. The gall of these liars! I am the most, the MOST prolific poster at Alex's forum, and a moderator. So to me this person is a liar, whereas Alex is honest as a person as I have met in five years or so since I have known him.

Far as I remember, the most vitriolic thing Alex has ever said is "death to Jews" which considering all of the Jewish crimes against humanity, INCLUDING KILLING CHRIST, is an understandable sentiment. I feel a deep animus against Jews as well, and when I think of them spitting on crosses and Orthodox priests and bishops in Israel, or the way that they have promoted abortion, or the way that Jewish-bolshevik butchers in Communist Russia killed over 30 MILLLION Ukrainian Orthodox, I feel very, very upset and angry. Now the Jews appeal to Catholics. The gall of these liars! They who attack the Roman Catholic Church day after day in their Jew newspapers! They call Pius XII a nazi, they call for reparations, they call for access to Vatican archives. They claim they are excused from conversion by their own twisted interpretation of Nostra Aetatae. They slap you and cry out in pain! Amazing! Boy, the Jews have had a long run in the USA getting Catholics to fight the natives, and they never tire of trying the same old tricks do they? Divide and conquer, divide and conquer. Always, the Jew wants us to fear the next White tribe over, wants us to fear the Muslim, fear the the WASP, fear the Mel Gibson Catholic today, appeal to the Catholic tomorrow. What a lowly, craven group of liars, cheats, and frauds the Jews and their lackeys are.

Alex Linder has as much right to exercise his First Amendment rights in Kirksville as any Jew, Catholic, gay, straight, Mormon, atheist, black, or college administrator. Alex has as much right to be in Kirksville as any illegal immigrant, that's for sure. And Roman Catholics of European ancestry-- White Catholics-- have just as much right to our own ethnic identity as any other ethnicity or race. I've got as much a natural and moral and legal right to state my pride for my White race as any black or Mexican that is for sure and I would not let some lying nobody tell me who I can and can't be friends with!

I think it's sad that Truman State allows its name to be smeared by irresponsible people like this. Do the Jews think that the citizens of Kirskville are second class citizens unable to exercise their own independent judgments without Jewish coaching?

Chain
September 17th, 2005, 12:20 AM
"Thus" or perhaps more to a colloquial point-- "that which immediately precedes is correct", correct as you see it.

sic. Indicates a misspelling or error in a quoted source, in order to verify to the reader that the researcher did not create a typographical error, but instead exactly reproduces the way the word or statement appeared in the original material. Literally, "yes" or "even thus" in Latin. Usage: There are, according to the writings of seven-year old Andrew, "Manee wayes of riting words" [sic].

Alex Linder
September 17th, 2005, 12:40 AM
I use sic the way the ADL does, to mock them. It's not technically precisely correct, perhaps, but the basic idea is these guys made an error, and I'm pointing it out. I do it for logic and truth, not just grammar errors.

brutus
September 17th, 2005, 01:20 AM
The Kirksville community is surprisingly diverse for its size [sic - Kirksville is over 96% white]

That about as diverse as Detroit, in reverse!

and people feel safe making Kirksville their home.

But most Detroiters don’t feel safe with 96% niggers crawling around Detroit. I wonder why? By any slim chance, do the people of Kirksville feel safe because there are an overwhelming majority of honest and clean White people living there? I think this reasoning is lost on this twit.

These diversity whores are worse then real whores. Maybe she just needs to be whored-out by a Detroit pimp to see the light of reality. That's it! Just put her in a micro mini skirt with a see-through top and a black eye from the nigger and she will see the real delight of diversity poking-up through the zippers of 20 Johns per night!

But, I really have to wonder how fond of diversity this women would really be, if she were car jacked by a buck nigger and viciously raped and given a bloody rectal injection of HIV? What would she say then? I mean if she didn’t like it, what would she say?

Stan Sikorski
September 17th, 2005, 01:25 AM
I don't think she'd say anything for a week at least. She would be catatonic.

J.P. Slovjanski
September 17th, 2005, 02:30 AM
It seems with the accusation of anti-Catholicism Linder may have achieved a level on par with that of Rockwell, who of course was also falsely accused of this. It is rather amusing that Jews would suddenly rush to the side of Catholics, since the Catholic church is one of their favorite targets nearly 100% of the time.

Alex Linder
September 17th, 2005, 03:11 AM
They aren't rushing to the side of Catholics, they're trying to pull the Catholics in front of them. Lochbaum is trying to build a coalition by means of a deliberate lie, if she is a jew. If she's of German descent, she's probably operating off the belief that VNN adheres to Klan doctrine, which it does not.

ADL's strategy is brazenly to claim to speak for the community, and bet that others will be too afraid of its smear campaigns to oppose it. But the facts are that the ADL is a leftist pedophile support group that gives awards to pornographers and pushes an agenda 90% of the American public disagrees with.

The jew only becomes part of the community when he's "attacked," and by attacked, I mean somebody describing in straightforward language what the jew is up to. Every other time, the jew takes pains to separate himself and demand special privileges -- as a jew.

Jews run a tricky game. They must step very carefully. Their agenda is not in America's interest, and would not be approved by the American public, were the issues laid before them plainly. That is precisely the function TAA performs, and that is why the Big Jew is scared of it. Those of you who claim dropping papers won't solve all our problems are right. There have to be men with courage behind the papers. But as we see here, the papers do have an effect.

You see, the jews are extremely highly leveraged. They win because they are organized, and too many of our people are lazy or ignorant or cowardly. If I could get even 100 of you to wage an overt campaign against their takeover of your city, they would be extremely hard pressed to stop us.

They know that.

Do you grasp what's going on here?

I'm a serious, substantial person who is completely dedicated to destroying the jewish dictatorship that runs this country. You'd better believe they take me seriously. Not because I'm "me," but because I represent a turning. A sign that white men, many of them, are extremely angry, and are beginning to risk losing everything, jobs, respect, money, lives -- to live free in a land of our own making.

This is not about some paper. This is about us controlling the conditions in which our daughters grow up. I will control the conditions in which Heidi grows up. Not the ADL. I am willing to kill over that, you'd better believe it.

When we rise up, in ones and twos, they cut us down, like Doles.

When we rise up in tens and twelves, they cut us down, but the blade slows and dulls.

When we rise up in the hundreds, that blade comes to a stop.

And when that blade comes to a stop, we will turn, and we will pick up Big Kike, and we will take it to a tree, and we will hang that goddam hooknosed piece of shit until the last lying wheeze whinges out of its supersized nose.

Linders have been in Kirksville for the better part of 200 years. My ancestors were key in locating TSU here, rather than in Sedalia. You think I care what some dull gretel says?

The jews and ADL aren't from here, and they don't represent Kirksville values. They're outsiders, foreigners, and interlopers. I speak for the community, and I say, "Kirksville rejects the ADL and its loxism."

Alex Linder
September 17th, 2005, 03:36 AM
ADL Backgrounder

by VNN Staff

November 2004

In America there exists a quasi-police organization that operates outside the law, and in many ways above it. It's called the Anti-Defamation League, and can be thought of as the inchoate Thought Police for the coming American police state. It keeps detailed records on thousands of Americans whose political views and activities fall outside the bounds of political correctness - or 'Semitical Correctness,' as Joe Sobran has more precisely termed it. Its agents gather intelligence (spy) on literally tens of thousands of fully law-abiding Americans. Huge databases are kept by its regional offices. It has a direct working relationship with both the FBI and with police departments nationwide, both on an official level and through underworld and foreign-intelligence connections.

On the official level, the ADL's so-called "experts" on "extremism" routinely are paid money by the FBI and many state and local police to hammer into the heads of rank-and-file cops that Americans whose political views do not correspond to the ADL's agenda are "haters," security risks, and potential terrorists. This smooths the way for ADL one day to prosecute anybody who opposes its agenda as a "political criminal" -- a concept completely alien to our founders, but well known in the former Soviet Union.

The ADL is also a tremendously powerful political lobbying organization. It single-handedly developed the legally bogus concept of "hate crimes," whereby people who behave the same are treated differently, according to the ADL's political calculus. In other words, if one of you reading this website or newspaper were to be violently attacked by one of those affirmative action admittees at your university, and you defended yourself, your charge and sentence would be inflated to penalize you personally for your political views and affiliations, and to create a climate of intimidation against all who share those views. The ADL presents its bogus "hate crimes" conception as a set of race-neutral laws protecting the entire community, but in fact "hate crimes" laws are used to single out and persecute white males, whose rights the ADL wishes to strip because it sees them as an obstacle to the consolidation of Jewish tyranny in America and around the globe. By the Jewish laws that the leaders and supporters of the ADL follow, non-jews are literally animals, and it is perfectly acceptable to lie to them, use them, cheat them -- even to murder them. In the jew's religious/political code, others only exist at Jewish sufferance - they have no rights the jew must respect. When they oppose the jew, they are fair game for everything, including overt physical slaughter. The history of the Russian-jew cousins of the jews who run the ADL in America today shows that jews will murder tens of millions of Aryans and Christians absolutely without compunction.

Bad as "hate" laws are, they're but the opening salvo in the ADL's real campaign: the redefinition of the First Amendment to eliminate legal protection for speech jews don't want to hear. That speech the ADL refers to as "hate," and it will be banned. That is the plan. It might sound ludicrous but for two reasons: 1) daily newspapers nationwide use ADL's political terms and frames - exclusively. Whatever the jews at ADL call "hate," so do the papers. Not sometimes. Not most of the time. Always. 2) laws banning such "hate" are already on the books in most nations in the West. It is illegal to criticize jews today in Canada, Australia, and most of Europe. The ADL seeks the same prohibitions in the U.S., while retaining the cover of the First Amendment to fool the people.

The ADL styles itself a neutral "civil rights" organization. In fact, it is a racist Jewish hate group, as it would describe itself, if it were opposed to its agenda. Civil rights is used by the ADL as a code term hiding jewish attempts to control and suppress any group, individual, or organ whose ideas or activities are perceived as obstacles to the ADL's agenda. All you need to know is that the ADL is and always has been a purely jewish-interest organization, and that it defines the Aryan race as an enemy to be vanquished, preferably through jew-media guided miscegenation, but violently if necessary.

The ADL's full name is the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rth -- B'nai B'rth meaning literally, "Sons of the Cut," in reference to the jewish ritual practice of circumcision. Its genesis from of the international jewish society of that name is a story in itself.

In 1913, a jew who was a member of this body, Leo Frank, raped and murdered a young female employee of his Atlanta pencil factory, the beautiful Mary Phagan. After Frank was convicted and sentenced to death for his crime, influential jews went to work on the government and secured a commutation of his sentence. The enraged citizenry promptly lynched the guilty jew. This gave other jews a bit of a scare, and in response they set up the Anti-Defamation League.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/MaryPhagan.jpg

Left: victim Mary Phagan. Center: Phagan's murderer, jew Leo Frank. Right: Justice served.

The agenda of the ADL is at once leftist and Zionist, a duality with which most jews happily live. Ethnocentrism and hyper-organized political assertiveness for them -- pluralism and tolerance for you. Disagree? Hate! Tomorrow? Jail. That is what ADL is aiming for, and what we at VNN and The Aryan Alternative and the growing army of Aryan resisters will never permit.

The basis of the ADL's leftist agenda is the old jewish maxim that 'jews are safest in a society without an ethnic basis.'

In other words, in an orderly society of a single ethnic group, jews, as the sole minority, would stand out and be watched closely. Their misbehavior, scheming, and general contempt for their host would be noticed, as has always been the case, resulting in the normal human reaction to jew -- anti-Semitism leading to physical expulsion.

For the jew then, the smart strategy, which he has perfected in America, is to promote an ideology which he calls "pluralism," or, of newer vintage, "diversity." A more proper term for this ideology and the strategy behind it would be "jewish camouflage." Jews become "just another group," and have numerous new allies against "the majority," which naturally resists this takeover of its society. Therefore, the majority group will always be the dreaded and hated enemy of the jew, and the target of its unbridled abuse and attack. The aim is always to subvert its culture, eliminate its unity and identity, and ultimately to dissolve its existence. Thus jewish leftism.

Zionism is simply another word for Judaism; political Judaism, Judaism applied. The ADL, while fervently promoting every form of leftist lunacy in America, backs unconditionally the ethnic state of Israel, its genocide against the Palestinians, and characterizes any opposition to this agenda also as 'hate' and 'anti-Semitism.' With such unmasked hypocrisy and amazing chutzpah -- Hebrew Hubris -- it is no wonder that the jews want -- and need -- to silence their opponents.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/Foxman.jpg

Abe Foxman, two-faced public face of the ADL

There is much more that could be said about ADL's overtly criminal activity, but for now it is enough to describe the ADL as the premier Jewish hate group, and to observe that its true mission is the destruction of Aryan Constitutional law en route to the genocidal elimination of Aryan people worldwide.

VNN STAFF

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/StaffADLBackground.htm

Jenab
September 17th, 2005, 04:25 AM
Alex, keep careful records of all their inaccurate charges. The ADL does this for producing an initial impression, some of which lingers even after nobody remembers any of the specific things the ADL had said. After the impression is made, they intentionally let those specifics disappear down the memory hole.

Hitler also noticed that the Jews do this, and that's what he was talking about in Mein Kampf with his "Big Lie" discussion. So keep track of what they say, and you can build your own expose "On the Jews and Their Lies."

It's about time somebody went "mad dog" on the ADL, watching all that they do, calling them to account for every bit of mischief, leaping out to denounce every lie as it is spoken and nearly continuously, forever thereafter. But you have to see and remember it, and document it so that you can refer others to it. It is a time-consuming chore. Maybe we can all help with information gathering.

Jerry Abbott

Jenab
September 17th, 2005, 04:46 AM
What does " [sic] " mean?
It's an editorial remark, added by a reviewer. It means, roughly, "the original author made this error, not me - I am just writing it the same way he did." The addition of [sic] has a potential for propaganda use. You can, for example, use [sic] to suggest that something factual is incorrect, or vice versa. It's similar to the way quotation marks can be used to suggest that a name or a description isn't really appropriate, even though it may be. When the ADL wants to attack the credibility of someone honest, they often use such verbal tricks as these.

Jerry Abbott

Jenab
September 17th, 2005, 06:32 AM
Missouri.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/29000.html

Population, 2003 estimate: 5,704,484
White persons, percent, 2000 (a): 84.9%
Black or African American persons, percent, 2000 (a): 11.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2000 (a): 0.4%
Asian persons, percent, 2000 (a): 1.1%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2000 (a): 0.1%
Persons reporting some other race, percent, 2000 (a): 0.8%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2000: 1.5%
White persons, not of Hispanic/Latino origin, percent, 2000: 83.8%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2000 (b): 2.1%

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/scscf94.txt

Percent of felons (1994). White: 51%. Black: 48%. All others: 1%.

Calculation (estimate - different years for data).

Per capita rate ratio for felony perpetration, Black to White: 8.05.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Kirksville-Missouri.html

Races in Kirksville:

* White Non-Hispanic (93.5%)
* Black (1.7%)
* Hispanic (1.5%)
* Two or more races (1.1%)
* Chinese (0.6%)
* American Indian (0.6%)
* Other race (0.6%)

Crime in Kirksville (2002):

* 1 murder (5.8 per 100,000)
* 6 rapes (34.8 per 100,000)
* 6 robberies (34.8 per 100,000)
* 30 assaults (174.2 per 100,000)
* 110 burglaries (638.7 per 100,000)
* 530 larceny counts (3077.3 per 100,000)
* 21 auto thefts (121.9 per 100,000)
* City-data.com crime index = 245.9 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6)

Crime in Kirksville (2001):

* 0 murders (0.0 per 100,000)
* 2 rapes (11.7 per 100,000)
* 4 robberies (23.4 per 100,000)
* 56 assaults (327.6 per 100,000)
* 81 burglaries (473.9 per 100,000)
* 471 larceny counts (2755.5 per 100,000)
* 20 auto thefts (117.0 per 100,000)
* City-data.com crime index = 231.4 (higher means more crime)

Questions: What was the racial breakdown for these felony crimes in Kirkville during these years? Are the Blacks committing more than their share of felonies in Kirkville, as they seem to be throughout Missouri in general? What is the per capita rate ratio, Black to White, for felony perpetration in Kirkville?

Possible source for information: Victim Support Services, P.O. Box 439, Kirksville, MO 63501, Business: 816-665-0021, Hotline/Crisis: 816-665-1617.

http://www.drug-rehabs.org/bycity.php/Missouri/Kirksville

Drug Rehab (following drug abuse data if for all Missouri).

Total abuse. White: 69%. Black: 28.7%.
Alcohol. White: 85.3%. Black: 11.5%.
Alcohol and some other drug. White: 74.5% Black: 23.5%.
Cocaine (smoked). White: 29.5%. Black: 69.0%.
Cocaine (other). White: 63.4%. Black: 33.4%.
Marijuana. White: 66.4%. Black: 31.0%.
Heroin. White: 47.0%. Black: 51.6%.
Meth. White: 97.6% Black: 0.8%.
(*Note - there was no composite figure given for cocaine abuse overall or for the relative frequency of smoked to other use.)

The population of Missouri is 84.9% White and 11.2% Black.
Blacks were 3.2 times more likely than Whites to be treated for substance abuse.
Whites and Blacks were about equally susceptible for alcohol abuse.
Blacks were 2.4 times more likely than Whites to abuse alcohol together with some other drug.
Blacks were 17.7 times more likely than Whites to smoke cocaine.
Blacks were 4.0 times more likely than Whites to abuse cocaine by some means other than smoking it.
Blacks were 3.5 times more likely than Whites to abuse marijuana.
Blacks were 8.3 times more likely than Whites to abuse heroin.
Whites were 16.0 times more likely than Blacks to abuse meth.

Meth was the only drug for which the White per capita abuse rate was higher than the Black per capita abuse rate. Watch, now, as meth is made the media's poster-issue for drug abuse, so the Jews can make Whites look like the big abusers. There was no way provided to compare the meth abuse rate with, say, the cocaine abuse rate.

Don't you just love the way the politically correct statistics keepers present racial percentage breakdowns for crime, for sexually transmitted disease infection, or for drug abuse without reminding you of the percentages that each race comprises in the population of the related area? You really have to stay alert to avoid getting fooled by incomplete, or partially relevant, presentations of statistical information because the liberal statistics cheaters present them without telling you about their incompleteness or their partial relevancy.

Jerry Abbott

Whirlwind
September 17th, 2005, 07:21 AM
I have no doubt the adl is beatable. They will eventually bite off more than they can chew. You're a pretty big bite, Alex. "When we rise up in the hundreds, the blade stops."

Rounder
September 17th, 2005, 08:38 AM
Well Alex, you've been trying your damnest to get Kirksville's attention, haven't you? Now you've got it, so take full advantage.

1) Get back to work on TAA 3 and finish it. I'll meet you halfway and deliver thousands of copies to you, which you can distribute within a week from now, all over Kirksville. Including hand-carrying copies to the media there - newspaper, TV, and radio.

2) Post TAA 3 on govnn.com ASAP, so you can reference it during your upcoming media interviews and in your LTEs. That way more thousands will read it, including journalists from all over the country. Which will, in turn, generate more media attention. TAA will spread like wildfire.

3) Your objective at this point should not be to defeat your local enemies, but rather to use them via the media in order to advertise VNN's two websites. Besides, give them plenty of rope to hang themselves with their Big Lies, which you can rub their noses in later on.

FINISH TAA 3 !!! It's your (our) biggest weapon for now.

At whatever you do, do not appear to be on the defensive. ATTACK with TAAs !!!

White Will
September 17th, 2005, 11:06 AM
I love it when the Jew overplays his hand like this. I sent this email to Lochman, Giovanni and every person in the header of "Sweet Annete" Crain's mass email to Kirkville's "movers and shakers." Three or four of the addresses, such as the long "IMCEAFAX" ones, bounced, but the others all went through all right. :p

---begin---
Subject: Alex Linder and his Aryan Alternative in Kirksville
From: Will Williams <whitewil@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:35:36 -0400
To: lochbaum@truman.edu, Giovannini Mary <maryg@truman.edu>
CC: Sweet Annette Crain <ASweet@ameren.com>, execdirector@cableone.net, Anita James <ajames@kvmo.net>, adairredcross@sbcglobal.net, frickandcundiff@sbcglobal.net, "Ben Hickman (Business Fax)" <IMCEAFAX-Ben+20Hickman+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-2152@ameren.com>, wcastles@cableone.net, bill.ciehanski@hollister.com, bill1@kvmo.net, wlymer@dfckc.com, wmurray@truman.edu, the.behnen.family@sbcglobal.net, Bob Dager <bu15@truman.edu>, brenda@bankofkirksville.com, bmotter@marktwain.net, " <IMCEAFAX-Bryan+20Collier+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-7250" <" <IMCEAFAX-Bryan+20Collier+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-7250"@ameren.com>, cboughton@cableone.net, adaircom@sbcglobal.net, Darla Campbell - UMExt <campbelld@missouri.edu>, davidshoush@nemorpc.org, projmgr@cableone.net, dwestern@cableone.net, lawhill@marktwain.net, kirksvillesears@hotmail.com, Ed Carpenter <ecarpent@truman.edu>, Galen Jennings <jenningsgm@dfckc.com>, gcroarkin@kirksville.k12.mo.us, barnesje@missouri.edu, mjwill@socket.net, jking@cableone.net, jkbroce@aol.com, jmontgomery@kirksville.k12.mo.us, kellylovekampllc@cableone.net, IMCEAFAX-Ken+20Read+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-0805@ameren.com, baiottok@missouri.edu, kimlebaron@cableone.net, larrywhitney@century21.com, FarrFrazee@aol.com, lgrgurich@pfh.org, Mark Whitney <mwhit63501@aol.com>, citymanager@kirksvillecity.com, mmagers@dfckc.com, mschwend01@pfh.org, tmsteele@kvmo.net, mharrison@kcom.edu, norman@bankofkirksville.com, pmiles@nmcaa.org, pete.detweiler@alliantbank.com, philtate@cableone.com, Ranee_Brayton@chs.net, rmcpick@swbell.net, robert.l.henselman@usbank.com, Roger@lonepineridge.com, ron@whitneyharrison.com, winkler@wcs1.com, stmcollins@yahoo.com, lcook@cableone.net

Saturday, 17 September, 2005

To: Julie Lochbaum
Director, Center for Teaching & Learning
Truman State University
100 E. Normal St.
Kirksville, MO 63501
660-785-4477

Dear Miss Julie,

Thanks to Annette Sweet I saw your letter that floated around among Kirksville movers and shakers where you have mounted a campaign to marginalize Kirksville resident Alex Linder and run him out of town on a rail for what he has had to say about the Jew, the Negro, other racial minorities, homosexuals, and, allegedly, according to you, that he wants to kill all Catholics. You are smart to ally yourself with Jews at the powerful Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith and their tag team watchdogs at the Coalition Against Hate. Groups like these are well-connected professionals and have lots of time and lots of money with which to hound impertinate goyim who get out of line and criticize Catholics, Jews and other non-Whites, and homosexuals. I'm sorry I missed that Jewess's talk on September 14th at the First Christian Church about the growing danger of White haters in Kirksville. Please inform me of future meeting like this, OK? Also I'd like to know exactly what Mr. Linder said about killing all Catholics. That's really spooky.

I suggest that after you purge Kirksville of this awful hater that you then go about removing Harry Truman's name from your school and give it a more appropriate name like The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., College, or Abe Foxman College, or The Rev. Dr. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow College, or something that reflects the racial diversity, the progressive attitude and "welcoming spirit (except for those who are pro-White, that is)" of Kirksville, MO. It seems that even though President Truman, on balance, was good for the Jew by promoting for them the state of Israel as their homeland, and for the Negro, as he was most instrumental in integrating the U.S. armed forces on his watch, he, like Mr. Linder, made some observations about the Jew and the Negro which should certainly preclude the fine institution for higher learning, where you are in charge of teaching and learning, from bearing his name. Did you know, for example, that Mr. Truman once said, "I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America." Should a man filled with such hate really have a college named after him in this day of racial diversity and harmony? Perhaps he only wanted to take Palestine away from the Palestinians and give it to the Jew as a pretext so all American Jews could then be shipped there?

Truman also said, "The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement [sic] on world affairs. Henry [Morganthau] brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed." He also said, "The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes." These opinions are from Harry Truman's 1947 diary. How dare he say such things about the sensitive, caring Jew, God's chosen people!

Mr. Linder, who, in 2005 in America, would definitely be considered an "underdog" by Truman's standards because of his politically incorrect views, nevertheless speaks for the majority White community (94%) of Kirksville; he says unflattering things about Jews and other minorities sort of like Mr. Truman did on occasion. So, you're right, he is definitely dangerous, especially should Kirksvillians start reading his hated tabloid newspaper and agreeing with what he has to say about the Jew and other views he has about matters of race that aren't found in mainstream media outlets -- especially, God forbid, should such an underdog as Linder and his followers, representing the White majority, find themselves "on top" of the racial heap.You say "Right now, Linder and his followers are not a large presence in Kirksville, but as he builds support, he may attract more of his followers to our area." That sure is a scary scenario, Miss Julie. Something must be done to protect the gentle sensibilities of Kirksville residents from ideas that people like Mr. Linder have, advocating as he does for the interests of the White majority. So, like I said, please inform me of your next ADL/COH meeting, and let me know more about Mr. Linders proposed genocide of all Catholics, OK?

Sincerely,

Will W. Williams <whitewil@mindspring.com>

Amalekite
September 17th, 2005, 12:03 PM
Not sure if it fits in here,just a reminder again
I guess this includes just the superrich among them
List of Jews in business
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

By posting this list here, the Jews will try to claim that you're posting a "hit list" (no, I'm not joking).

germanSlave
September 17th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Absolute right,I love this one. My English is pretty limited,but this is the way I would say as well.
You kick me out of this forum,but I have to say this: we need to Ally With all other races and religions in the first place if we want to win the battle.We have one common enemy,too powerfull for us. It has to become a worldwide movement which includes everybody.I mean everybody who suffers by the Jew Dictatorship.It doesn't help if we are locked up one day, and watching how millions of moslems getting killed,or the Chinese bought of,
and our future generations under eternal slavery.
We have two handbooks,which states a lot of truth, aside what was changed by the enemy,I prefer the Bible and Mein Kampf.
But in overall the mass of mankind needs to learn what the evil looks like.
A child can receive a lolipop from an evil person, and will always believe in the good of that person,unless it gets it's eyes opened up.
The Jewish are building a world empire, like a sling around our neck,and mankind still not aware of it.Only the best organized opposition,will get them out of their holes so we can see their real faces.
Thanks for reading.
A Politisch Vefolgter German, now living in a freespeech country

They aren't rushing to the side of Catholics, they're trying to pull the Catholics in front of them. Lochbaum is trying to build a coalition by means of a deliberate lie, if she is a jew. If she's of German descent, she's probably operating off the belief that VNN adheres to Klan doctrine, which it does not.

ADL's strategy is brazenly to claim to speak for the community, and bet that others will be too afraid of its smear campaigns to oppose it. But the facts are that the ADL is a leftist pedophile support group that gives awards to pornographers and pushes an agenda 90% of the American public disagrees with.

The jew only becomes part of the community when he's "attacked," and by attacked, I mean somebody describing in straightforward language what the jew is up to. Every other time, the jew takes pains to separate himself and demand special privileges -- as a jew.

Jews run a tricky game. They must step very carefully. Their agenda is not in America's interest, and would not be approved by the American public, were the issues laid before them plainly. That is precisely the function TAA performs, and that is why the Big Jew is scared of it. Those of you who claim dropping papers won't solve all our problems are right. There have to be men with courage behind the papers. But as we see here, the papers do have an effect.

You see, the jews are extremely highly leveraged. They win because they are organized, and too many of our people are lazy or ignorant or cowardly. If I could get even 100 of you to wage an overt campaign against their takeover of your city, they would be extremely hard pressed to stop us.

They know that.

Do you grasp what's going on here?

I'm a serious, substantial person who is completely dedicated to destroying the jewish dictatorship that runs this country. You'd better believe they take me seriously. Not because I'm "me," but because I represent a turning. A sign that white men, many of them, are extremely angry, and are beginning to risk losing everything, jobs, respect, money, lives -- to live free in a land of our own making.

This is not about some paper. This is about us controlling the conditions in which our daughters grow up. I will control the conditions in which Heidi grows up. Not the ADL. I am willing to kill over that, you'd better believe it.

When we rise up, in ones and twos, they cut us down, like Doles.

When we rise up in tens and twelves, they cut us down, but the blade slows and dulls.

When we rise up in the hundreds, that blade comes to a stop.

And when that blade comes to a stop, we will turn, and we will pick up Big Kike, and we will take it to a tree, and we will hang that goddam hooknosed piece of shit until the last lying wheeze whinges out of its supersized nose.

Linders have been in Kirksville for the better part of 200 years. My ancestors were key in locating TSU here, rather than in Sedalia. You think I care what some dull gretel says?

The jews and ADL aren't from here, and they don't represent Kirksville values. They're outsiders, foreigners, and interlopers. I speak for the community, and I say, "Kirksville rejects the ADL and its loxism."

brutus
September 17th, 2005, 03:32 PM
RE: germanSlave

Absolute right,I love this one. My English is pretty limited,but this is the way I would say as well.
You kick me out of this forum,but I have to say this: we need to Ally With all other races and religions in the first place if we want to win the battle.We have one common enemy,too powerfull for us. It has to become a worldwide movement which includes everybody.I mean everybody who suffers by the Jew Dictatorship.It doesn't help if we are locked up one day, and watching how millions of moslems getting killed,or the Chinese bought of,
and our future generations under eternal slavery.

You say the truth.

The only people who will disagree with what you’ve said here are jews. The jew will pretend to be a White National and then criticize your line of reasoning because the jew understands the strategic value of keeping an enemy divided.

Amalekite
September 17th, 2005, 03:39 PM
. . . I have to say this: we need to Ally With all other races and religions in the first place if we want to win the battle.

In theory, I agree with this - the Jew is the enemy of all mankind and one of his favorite tactics is to divide and conquer - but an alliance of this sort is much easier said than done. While both Black Muslims and White Nationalists recognize the Jew for the cancer that he is, can we realistically expect these two groups to set their differences aside long enough for their mutual enemy to be defeated? Would the leftists who are appalled at Israeli apartheid be able to set aside their repulsion for those they term "neo-Nazis" long enough to form an alliance with them? Anyone who opposes the Jew should be applauded, WN or not, but as far as an alliance, I wouldn't hold my breath.

germanSlave
September 17th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Well we have this Objection,of getting rid of the Jew.
But ok, once we are,by then left,right,black,brown,yellow,white,moslem,christian,hindu and so on ..united in slavery ,then it wouldn't matter anymore.Hope each side realizes ,there is only one enemy.How to set the differences aside? Maybe I am a dreamer,but any other solution?
In theory, I agree with this - the Jew is the enemy of all mankind and one of his favorite tactics is to divide and conquer - but an alliance of this sort is much easier said than done. While both Black Muslims and White Nationalists recognize the Jew for the cancer that he is, can we realistically expect these two groups to set their differences aside long enough to defeat their mutual enemy? Would the leftists who are appalled at Israeli apartheid be able to set aside their repulsion for those they term "neo-Nazis" long enough to form an alliance with them? Anyone who opposes the Jew should be applauded, WN or not, but as far as an alliance, I wouldn't hold my breath.

YANKEE_JIM
September 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM
You better believe it. It comes down to this: are we such chickenshits that we're going to let the jews and their niggers push us out of our own country? Yes or no?




Subject: Alex Linder & VNN
Date: 9/17/2005 5:36:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: NatallHV
Reply To:
To: lochbaum@truman.edu, maryg@truman.edu
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Dr. Lochbaum --

Would you care to back up your claim that VNN's Alex Linder advocated killing Catholics?

I've been a regular reader on VNN since it's inception, and don't ever recall him mentioning "killing Catholics." My wife and two children are Catholic, so I think I would've picked up on it if he did.

The tactics you appear to be using against Mr. Linder were used quite regularly by the Bolsheviks against my ancestors in Russia back during the beginning of the last century...just before the real Holocaust.

I'll be following this closely, and I may write an article for NationalVanguard.org if and/or when this issue is resolved.

Anyway...keep trying with the smears...truth will win in the end!


Sincerely, Jim Leshkevich Hurley, NY

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/hv/




Fuck these kikes! Use the pen while it's still legal! :cheers:


-Yankee Jim

YANKEE_JIM
September 17th, 2005, 04:50 PM
Well Alex, you've been trying your damnest to get Kirksville's attention, haven't you? Now you've got it, so take full advantage.



Would a meeting in the public library make any sense? THAT usually gets the attention of the media! :cheers:


I was at the "Battle Of York" (http://www.adl.org/learn/news/meeting_clashes.asp)


Get their attention...and HOLD IT! ;)


-Yankee Jim

Rounder
September 17th, 2005, 05:14 PM
I love it when the Jew overplays his hand like this. I sent this email to Lochman, Giovanni and every person in the header of "Sweet Annete" Crain's mass email to Kirkville's "movers and shakers." Three or four of the addresses, such as the long "IMCEAFAX" ones, bounced, but the others all went through all right. :p

---begin---
Subject: Alex Linder and his Aryan Alternative in Kirksville
From: Will Williams <whitewil@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:35:36 -0400
To: lochbaum@truman.edu, Giovannini Mary <maryg@truman.edu>
CC: Sweet Annette Crain <ASweet@ameren.com>, execdirector@cableone.net, Anita James <ajames@kvmo.net>, adairredcross@sbcglobal.net, frickandcundiff@sbcglobal.net, "Ben Hickman (Business Fax)" <IMCEAFAX-Ben+20Hickman+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-2152@ameren.com>, wcastles@cableone.net, bill.ciehanski@hollister.com, bill1@kvmo.net, wlymer@dfckc.com, wmurray@truman.edu, the.behnen.family@sbcglobal.net, Bob Dager <bu15@truman.edu>, brenda@bankofkirksville.com, bmotter@marktwain.net, " <IMCEAFAX-Bryan+20Collier+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-7250" <" <IMCEAFAX-Bryan+20Collier+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-7250"@ameren.com>, cboughton@cableone.net, adaircom@sbcglobal.net, Darla Campbell - UMExt <campbelld@missouri.edu>, davidshoush@nemorpc.org, projmgr@cableone.net, dwestern@cableone.net, lawhill@marktwain.net, kirksvillesears@hotmail.com, Ed Carpenter <ecarpent@truman.edu>, Galen Jennings <jenningsgm@dfckc.com>, gcroarkin@kirksville.k12.mo.us, barnesje@missouri.edu, mjwill@socket.net, jking@cableone.net, jkbroce@aol.com, jmontgomery@kirksville.k12.mo.us, kellylovekampllc@cableone.net, IMCEAFAX-Ken+20Read+40+2B1+20+28660+29+20665-0805@ameren.com, baiottok@missouri.edu, kimlebaron@cableone.net, larrywhitney@century21.com, FarrFrazee@aol.com, lgrgurich@pfh.org, Mark Whitney <mwhit63501@aol.com>, citymanager@kirksvillecity.com, mmagers@dfckc.com, mschwend01@pfh.org, tmsteele@kvmo.net, mharrison@kcom.edu, norman@bankofkirksville.com, pmiles@nmcaa.org, pete.detweiler@alliantbank.com, philtate@cableone.com, Ranee_Brayton@chs.net, rmcpick@swbell.net, robert.l.henselman@usbank.com, Roger@lonepineridge.com, ron@whitneyharrison.com, winkler@wcs1.com, stmcollins@yahoo.com, lcook@cableone.net

Saturday, 17 September, 2005

To: Julie Lochbaum
Director, Center for Teaching & Learning
Truman State University
100 E. Normal St.
Kirksville, MO 63501
660-785-4477

Dear Miss Julie,

Thanks to Annette Sweet I saw your letter that floated around among Kirksville movers and shakers where you have mounted a campaign to marginalize Kirksville resident Alex Linder and run him out of town on a rail for what he has had to say about the Jew, the Negro, other racial minorities, homosexuals, and, allegedly, according to you, that he wants to kill all Catholics. You are smart to ally yourself with Jews at the powerful Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith and their tag team watchdogs at the Coalition Against Hate. Groups like these are well-connected professionals and have lots of time and lots of money with which to hound impertinate goyim who get out of line and criticize Catholics, Jews and other non-Whites, and homosexuals. I'm sorry I missed that Jewess's talk on September 14th at the First Christian Church about the growing danger of White haters in Kirksville. Please inform me of future meeting like this, OK? Also I'd like to know exactly what Mr. Linder said about killing all Catholics. That's really spooky.

I suggest that after you purge Kirksville of this awful hater that you then go about removing Harry Truman's name from your school and give it a more appropriate name like The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., College, or Abe Foxman College, or The Rev. Dr. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow College, or something that reflects the racial diversity, the progressive attitude and "welcoming spirit (except for those who are pro-White, that is)" of Kirksville, MO. It seems that even though President Truman, on balance, was good for the Jew by promoting for them the state of Israel as their homeland, and for the Negro, as he was most instrumental in integrating the U.S. armed forces on his watch, he, like Mr. Linder, made some observations about the Jew and the Negro which should certainly preclude the fine institution for higher learning, where you are in charge of teaching and learning, from bearing his name. Did you know, for example, that Mr. Truman once said, "I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America." Should a man filled with such hate really have a college named after him in this day of racial diversity and harmony? Perhaps he only wanted to take Palestine away from the Palestinians and give it to the Jew as a pretext so all American Jews could then be shipped there?

Truman also said, "The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement [sic] on world affairs. Henry [Morganthau] brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed." He also said, "The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes." These opinions are from Harry Truman's 1947 diary. How dare he say such things about the sensitive, caring Jew, God's chosen people!

Mr. Linder, who, in 2005 in America, would definitely be considered an "underdog" by Truman's standards because of his politically incorrect views, nevertheless speaks for the majority White community (94%) of Kirksville; he says unflattering things about Jews and other minorities sort of like Mr. Truman did on occasion. So, you're right, he is definitely dangerous, especially should Kirksvillians start reading his hated tabloid newspaper and agreeing with what he has to say about the Jew and other views he has about matters of race that aren't found in mainstream media outlets -- especially, God forbid, should such an underdog as Linder and his followers, representing the White majority, find themselves "on top" of the racial heap.You say "Right now, Linder and his followers are not a large presence in Kirksville, but as he builds support, he may attract more of his followers to our area." That sure is a scary scenario, Miss Julie. Something must be done to protect the gentle sensibilities of Kirksville residents from ideas that people like Mr. Linder have, advocating as he does for the interests of the White majority. So, like I said, please inform me of your next ADL/COH meeting, and let me know more about Mr. Linders proposed genocide of all Catholics, OK?

Sincerely,

Will W. Williams <whitewil@mindspring.com>

Whew !!! Dynamite letter, Will. It'll sure as hell raise lots of eyebrows, that's for sure. And they'll all know that the others got the letter, which will generate conversation among them at their local country clubs, etc.

Hell Raising Woman
September 17th, 2005, 05:15 PM
That about as diverse as Detroit, in reverse!

Not for long, the immigration lawyers will see that non-whites are spread out into every nook and cranny of the U.S. Anything that will cause a threat to Whites and raise the crime rate will make the jewish immigration lawyers happy with insanity.

Alex Linder
September 17th, 2005, 06:14 PM
It's an editorial remark, added by a reviewer. It means, roughly, "the original author made this error, not me - I am just writing it the same way he did." The addition of [sic] has a potential for propaganda use. You can, for example, use [sic] to suggest that something factual is incorrect, or vice versa. It's similar to the way quotation marks can be used to suggest that a name or a description isn't really appropriate, even though it may be. When the ADL wants to attack the credibility of someone honest, they often use such verbal tricks as these.

Jerry Abbott

This is true. Basically, sic has one meaning grammatically, that the author of the original made a mistake. But in everyday terms, it tends to be a way to try make your opponent look stupid. That is why whenver the ADL or some other Evil Group quotes a WN, it will load the thing up with sics, whether deserved or not. Whereas, if they're quoting an illiterate nigger like Jesse Jackson, they'll airbrush the remarks.

YANKEE_JIM
September 17th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Alex, keep careful records of all their inaccurate charges. The ADL does this for producing an initial impression, some of which lingers even after nobody remembers any of the specific things the ADL had said. After the impression is made, they intentionally let those specifics disappear down the memory hole.



Thanks to the Internet...we can see to it that the memory of Mary Phagan (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=22033&page=4&pp=20&highlight=frank) is NEVER FORGOTTEN! I'm sure the ADL would like it to just "go away." ;)


-Yankee Jim

14
September 17th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Then, another professor, Julie Lochbaum, spreads the Big Lie that I've called for killing Catholics. Here's a photo of Ms. Lochbaum:

http://hr.truman.edu/sources/images/People/Julie_Lochbaum.jpg

McKinley
September 17th, 2005, 07:29 PM
I use sic the way the ADL does, to mock them. It's not technically precisely correct, perhaps, but the basic idea is these guys made an error, and I'm pointing it out. I do it for logic and truth, not just grammar errors.

I was think it ment that the adl are some [sic] sons of bitches.

chrissy
September 17th, 2005, 08:15 PM
Would a meeting in the public library make any sense? THAT usually gets the attention of the media! :cheers:


I was at the "Battle Of York" (http://www.adl.org/learn/news/meeting_clashes.asp)


Get their attention...and HOLD IT! ;)


-Yankee Jim
I don't think that would be a good idea for Alex to do, for safety reasons, he needs to stay under the radar so to speak. Not good - remember the army is in front of us, not behind us.

YANKEE_JIM
September 17th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Whew !!! Dynamite letter, Will. It'll sure as hell raise lots of eyebrows, that's for sure. And they'll all know that the others got the letter, which will generate conversation among them at their local country clubs, etc.


That's the exact same tactic I use! Then of course comes a few "Please take me off your list" Emails...and I have to remind them they're not on my list, but on the town of (fill in the blank) website...which makes it public.

When the jew loving Mayor of New Paltz, NY was illegally "marrying" all the faggots up here...I was on a roll, FLOODING the entire town with Emails containing some very interesting stuff...just to get 'em talking amongst themselves.

Sometimes a well placed Email can get coverage we couldn't even DREAM of paying for...let alone get it for FREE! Below is just one example of how a Police Chief went whining to the local paper after receiving an Email from yours truly. Other "racists" were "fueling" the fire as well...including the almighty Chain. That thing snowballed into something we never dreamed possible! :D


Residents blast racist fliers (http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2004/05/02/local/10049021.txt)

http://www.journalstar.com/content/articles/2004/05/02/local/10049021.jpg
Dale Mesner holds a flyer left on his driveway at 2220 S 37th Street Sunday. The flyer's describes how Jenna Cooper's killing relates to a trend of black people killing white people.


Casady said he's noticed recent increased hate activity. Last Wednesday he received an e-mail about the Cooper case from a man, who identified himself as Jim Leshkevic.

"It was spewing the same vile, racist bigotry that this flier has," he said.

The Journal Star received a similar e-mail from Leshkevic. Casady said there were no apparent links between the e-mail and the flier distribution.




BTW...the "vile, racist bigotry" was just a few statistics from the FBI's website on "black on White" crime. ;)


-Yankee Jim

Amalekite
September 17th, 2005, 08:42 PM
I don't see the Chosen criticizing the Catholic Church hardly ever, anymore. The two popes, John Paul II and the present one, have stumbled all over themselves sucking up to jews. The Chosen have no reason whatsoever to do anything but love the Catholic Church, as far as I can see.

The Jews will always hate the Catholic Church, no matter how subdued it becomes. Never forget, never forgive and all that. Look at how much shit they stirred up over Mel Gibson's innocuous movie The Passion.

Fenrir
September 18th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Would a meeting in the public library make any sense? THAT usually gets the attention of the media!

Not a bad idea. Why not just do the same as the ADL? Schedule a meeting to warn the Kirksville residents about the Jewish ADL and the dangers of "multiculturalising" a predominantly white neighborhood. Discuss Jewish lies, why the ADL is not to be trusted, and why bringing in groids and spics is a bad idea. Could be done in a short hour-long presentation, with time for questions later.

Much easier said on a message board than done, but if local action is what you want, why not let the residents meet the town racist and you can show them you're not the boogeyman the ADL wants to make you out to be? A few people may vehemently disagree with you, but there are always a few willing to listen and some will agree.

YANKEE_JIM
September 18th, 2005, 01:12 AM
Not a bad idea. Why not just do the same as the ADL? Schedule a meeting to warn the Kirksville residents about the Jewish ADL and the dangers of "multiculturalising" a predominantly white neighborhood. Discuss Jewish lies, why the ADL is not to be trusted.


GREAT IDEA! DON'T FORGET THIS!


Occasionally, however, the ADL's espionage work has gotten it into trouble. In addition to stealing the trash from in front of people's homes, the ADL has illegally obtained confidential information on thousands of Americans by bribing employees in departments of motor vehicles or in police departments, including the San Francisco Police Department. When the San Francisco police realized that some of their confidential files had been stolen by the ADL, they obtained search warrants. The Los Angeles and San Francisco offices of the ADL were raided by the police twice, first on December 10, 1992 and then again on April 8, 1993. In these raids thousands of stolen police files were recovered. The police also raided the homes of an ADL undercover agent, Roy Bullock; and a sergeant in the San Francisco Police Department, Thomas Gerard. Gerard, who had been stealing the police records for the ADL, subsequently fled to the Philippines to avoid prosecution.

Just prior to the April 1993 raids San Francisco Assistant District Attorney John Dwyer told news reporters: "The ADL is the target. Their involvement is just so great. People have called this the Gerard case. Now it's the ADL case. Gerard is just their guy in San Francisco. The ADL is doing the same thing all over the country. There is evidence that the ADL had police agents in other cities. The case just gets bigger every day. The more we look, the more we find people involved."



The Corruption of America's Police
by the ADL (http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs9811a.html)

The whole state of Misery could end up "waking up" over this...if it's done right! Don't forget...the looting niggers are still fresh in their minds! ;)


More on the corrupt ADL...



The (Jewish) Mother of All PACs

In 1992, Lyndon LaRouche commissioned a book-length profile of the links between the Meyer Lansky-founded National Crime Syndicate and the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith. The book, The Ugly Truth About the ADL, became an underground bestseller, with over 250,000 copies placed in circulation in the first year of its release. Within days of the release of the book, in January 1993, a scandal erupted in San Francisco, where the ADL was caught in a criminal espionage operation, targetted against civil rights, labor, Arab-American, and political activists—including several West Coast political associates of LaRouche. The ADL dirty tricks operations included attacks on a number of elected public officials, including former Congressman Pete McCloskey (R-Calif.), a leading spokesman for the rights of Arab-Americans and for Palestinians living under Israeli occupation. McCloskey filed a lawsuit against the ADL, and after nearly a decade of litigation, won a substantial out-of-court settlement for his clients, all victims of the ADL spy games.

The Ugly Truth About the ADL revealed the role of the ADL, the Milken swindlers cabal, and AIPAC, in the creation of scores of political action committees, which were, in fact, one single entity, operating in violation of the Federal elections laws that placed a $5,000 ceiling on PAC contributions to an individual candidate. While some of the factual data may now be out of date, The Ugly Truth... provided a road map to the ADL-AIPAC illegal PAC operations that is as accurate today as it was a decade ago, when the book was published.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2933aipac_mccain.html




-Yankee Jim

brutus
September 18th, 2005, 02:41 AM
RE: Fenrir

Not a bad idea. Why not just do the same as the ADL? Schedule a meeting to warn the Kirksville residents about the Jewish ADL and the dangers of "multiculturalising" a predominantly white neighborhood. Discuss Jewish lies, why the ADL is not to be trusted, and why bringing in groids and spics is a bad idea. Could be done in a short hour-long presentation, with time for questions later.

Much easier said on a message board than done, but if local action is what you want, why not let the residents meet the town racist and you can show them you're not the boogeyman the ADL wants to make you out to be? A few people may vehemently disagree with you, but there are always a few willing to listen and some will agree.

Whenever the jew puts on a show, he controls the stage, as well as the audience.

One lone racist, inviting and then addressing an open group in a library is a very bad idea. I don’t need a crystal ball to see the racist shouted-down and be unable to get his message across. And possibly be beat-up.

On the other hand, a racist with several unassuming but large “body guards” at his side AND with the audience peppered with fellow racists is not a bad idea. The big boys will stop any direct physical attack and the Brothers in the audience can verbally intimidate any loud-mouthed nigger-loving and jewbot lemmings.

Just in case, always have an exit strategy to be able to leave the premises quickly and carry no weapons unless you have a completely valid carrying permit. If you don’t have the right to carry, do not. The police will go after you in the event of a fight breaking out. But that doesn’t mean that chairs can’t be used to control an unreasonable guest.

I say these things because I have seen, first hand, town hall meetings where the citizens actually have come to blows against people standing-up for White people. White people as well as niggers will attack anyone willing to standup for White rights. Be on your guard!

Try your best, to let it not come to a fight, because that only makes it easier for the jew to spin it against us.

Fenrir
September 18th, 2005, 03:09 AM
On the other hand, a racist with several unassuming but large “body guards” at his side AND with the audience peppered with fellow racists is not a bad idea.

Right, I don't think it'd be wise to go without protection. I dunno how practical going with a few other VNNers would be.

In Mein Kampf Uncle Adolf discusses giving speeches and the problems he encountered from the Jews and their stooges. As you say, muscle is important.

Jenab
September 18th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Here's a photo of Ms. Lochbaum:

http://hr.truman.edu/sources/images/People/Julie_Lochbaum.jpg
She looks like Michael Eisner might look wearing a scraggly wig and glasses.

Jenab
September 18th, 2005, 01:06 PM
The ADL may try for a fast win by corruption against Alex in Kirksville, meaning he might be arrested for saying what the ADL doesn't want other people hearing (or repeating).

If the "Ernst Zundel" treatment fails, they'll try to wear Alex down through time and bandwidth. The danger in this for the ADL is that Alex, himself, has a worldwide medium, and the only thing it really needs to compete with the Jewsmedia is publicity. If the ADL makes such a stink that Kirksville becomes a famous focus for controversy, people will find VNN and hear what Alex has to say about the ADL.

The ADL has a long record of lies and deception, and it has a great many skeletons in its closet. Against Alex, by comparison, there is only the ADL's accusation that Alex has "hateful" opinions, meaning that the ADL wants the residents of Kirksville to begin hating Alex for having those opinions.

When the ADL goes after a nobody, someone who can't get his own side of the story out to the public, they can engage in smear wars using their greater bandwidth with great confidence of victory. But Alex isn't a nobody, and time would not be on the ADL's side. The longer the controversy goes on, the more famous it would become, and the more people would find VNN and hear what Alex has to say. The result would be that a substantial number of readers would be convinced that Alex is the good guy and that the ADL are the bad guys.

Assuming that Alex's innocence of any crimes is sufficient to keep him out of jail, the ADL might have made a miscalculation that plays much in our favor.

Jerry Abbott

14
September 18th, 2005, 01:08 PM
On the other hand, a racist with several unassuming but large “body guards” at his side... Just make sure one of your body guards isn't Tony Evola working under a new name.




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White Will
September 19th, 2005, 08:10 AM
Whew !!! Dynamite letter, Will. It'll sure as hell raise lots of eyebrows, that's for sure. And they'll all know that the others got the letter, which will generate conversation among them at their local country clubs, etc.

The ADL kikes have violated their own Rule #1 by picking a fight with Alex, especially on his home court where he holds a decided advantage, considering he has familial roots there reaching back 200 years.

With a front "man" like this out-of-her-depth Lochman cunt, this nepotismic appointee of teaching and learning at Truman College with the Cracker Jack box PhD in Education, leading their cheering section, they have stumbled before they get out of the gate. Stupid Jew!

To put the unfolding situation in a poker metaphor the Jew is trying to buy the pot with a pair of deuces, but unbenownst to the powerful ADL, l'il ol' Alex, grinning like the Cheshire cat, is holding a royal flush. He has effectively called their bluff, artfully roping them in further, raising the stakes, making a real game of it. If the ADL doesn't wise up and realize how weak its shit is with this particular bluff, the town of Kirksville will get an eyeful of the REAL Jew behind the phony "public servant" mask.

Glenn, it's a cinch now that Kirksville will be swamped with a good portion of those 40,000 TAA#3s. The so-called "movers and shakers" of that little town are smelling blood, all right, but it's not Alex's -- it's the hubris-filled, insolent Jew's. BTW, as expected, I received no replies from those who received my email, but I did get notices eventually that the emails sent to those long FAX addresses did go through, so the town's leading bankers and realtors and city manager and all those folks will now have something to yack about over lunch today. The more they try to demonize Alex the deeper the hole they will dig and the more reasonable people will side with truth over lies. They'll get some genuine "teaching and learning" on who are the real haters before this runs its course

sacredblut
September 19th, 2005, 08:47 AM
Right now, Linder and his followers are not
>a large presence in Kirksville, but as he builds support, he may attract
>more of his followers to our area.

I would like to move out of New York. Maybe I should move to Kirksville and bring the diversity it loves and encourages by contributing my racial views along with Alex Linder.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 19th, 2005, 09:39 AM
By posting this list here, the Jews will try to claim that you're posting a "hit list" (no, I'm not joking).

There's no evidence of that. We can posts lists of racist anti-White Jews just as much as they can post lists of socalled racists. Nobody here is in any way calling for or demanding or encouraging or soliciting any unlawful acts towards those particular Jews. If anybody does attempt to do that, their posts will be removed and depending on the severity of their comments the forum mods will take appropriate disciplinary action upto and including banning. Keep that in mind. I would remind everybody reading this thread, including law enforcement officials, that this forum allows anonymous registration and so we have no way of knowing exactly who is who and it's both possible and likely that antiracists and Jews will actually come on this website, pose as "racists," and then engage in questionable speech which may go over the line of what is legal. We have to deal with that kind of sabotage here all the time matter of fact. However, we won't let that intimidate us into silence in the face of these aggressive Jewish slanders of Alex Linder. We'll defend our forum host and expose the Jewish lies. It's the ADL that's yet again treading on other people's rights, and not vice versa.

By the way, the case you're thinking of, where there was a list of abortionists, and then as they were murdered the website crossed them off the lists, presents different facts than we have here.

You can read about this case at this salon article.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1999/02/cov_03feature.html

Rounder
September 19th, 2005, 10:02 AM
The ADL kikes have violated their own Rule #1 by picking a fight with Alex, especially on his home court where he holds a decided advantage, considering he has familial roots there reaching back 200 years.

With a front "man" like this out-of-her-depth Lochman cunt, this nepotismic appointee of teaching and learning at Truman College with the Cracker Jack box PhD in Education, leading their cheering section, they have stumbled before they get out of the gate. Stupid Jew!

To put the unfolding situation in a poker metaphor the Jew is trying to buy the pot with a pair of deuces, but unbenownst to the powerful ADL, l'il ol' Alex, grinning like the Cheshire cat, is holding a royal flush. He has effectively called their bluff, artfully roping them in further, raising the stakes, making a real game of it. If the ADL doesn't wise up and realize how weak its shit is with this particular bluff, the town of Kirksville will get an eyeful of the REAL Jew behind the phony "public servant" mask.

Glenn, it's a cinch now that Kirksville will be swamped with a good portion of those 40,000 TAA#3s. The so-called "movers and shakers" of that little town are smelling blood, all right, but it's not Alex's -- it's the hubris-filled, insolent Jew's. BTW, as expected, I received no replies from those who received my email, but I did get notices eventually that the emails sent to those long FAX addresses did go through, so the town's leading bankers and realtors and city manager and all those folks will now have something to yack about over lunch today. The more they try to demonize Alex the deeper the hole they will dig and the more reasonable people will side with truth over lies. They'll get some genuine "teaching and learning" on who are the real haters before this runs its course

Damn excellent points, Will. (Yankee Jim provided some dynamite expose info on the ADL above, in case you missed it).

Your emails got the attention of Kirksville's "big wigs", no doubt. You might send them another that contains links to expose articles on the ADL (for their continuing education). You might also PM Alex your advice on how best to handle this, since you've had considerable experience in this sort of thing. Several heads are better than one, ya know.

The ADL has presented us with a golden opportunity. Alex ought to milk it to the max, beginning with TAA saturation of Kirksville, and by using the resulting media attention with lengthy LTEs, and newspaper, radio, and TV interviews.

EXPOSE THE GD KIKES, and their whores !!!

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 19th, 2005, 10:03 AM
We fear not the Jew. Every one of us that they defame, ten more are attracted to our flag. This is not an idle boast. Here is my PROOF that ADL publicity helps VNN:

For every one of us that the induce the government into persecuting like Zundel, or Doles, or Duke, or Hale, they breed a hundred more of us. I'd bet that each of the above attracted a thousand new "racists" to the flag each.

One more thought for the KIKES reading this thread. If we could raise $75,000 for Chester Doles, who had swastika tattoos and a rap sheet, ask yourselves how much we can AND WILL raise for the defense of Alex Linder, a clean cut White boy with a nice college degree. Ask yourselves that KIKES.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 19th, 2005, 10:04 AM
............
I suggest that after you purge Kirksville of this awful hater that you then go about removing Harry Truman's name from your school and give it a more appropriate name like The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., College, or Abe Foxman College, or The Rev. Dr. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow College, or something that reflects the racial diversity, the progressive attitude and "welcoming spirit (except for those who are pro-White, that is)" of Kirksville, MO. It seems that even though President Truman, on balance, was good for the Jew by promoting for them the state of Israel as their homeland, and for the Negro, as he was most instrumental in integrating the U.S. armed forces on his watch, he, like Mr. Linder, made some observations about the Jew and the Negro which should certainly preclude the fine institution for higher learning, where you are in charge of teaching and learning, from bearing his name. Did you know, for example, that Mr. Truman once said, "I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America." Should a man filled with such hate really have a college named after him in this day of racial diversity and harmony? Perhaps he only wanted to take Palestine away from the Palestinians and give it to the Jew as a pretext so all American Jews could then be shipped there?

Truman also said, "The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgement [sic] on world affairs. Henry [Morganthau] brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary basis and they stayed." He also said, "The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes." These opinions are from Harry Truman's 1947 diary. How dare he say such things about the sensitive, caring Jew, God's chosen people!

Mr. Linder, who, in 2005 in America, would definitely be considered an "underdog" by Truman's standards because of his politically incorrect views, nevertheless speaks for the majority White community (94%) of Kirksville; he says unflattering things about Jews and other minorities sort of like Mr. Truman did on occasion. So, you're right, he is definitely dangerous, especially should Kirksvillians start reading his hated tabloid newspaper and agreeing with what he has to say about the Jew and other views he has about matters of race that aren't found in mainstream media outlets -- especially, God forbid, should such an underdog as Linder and his followers, representing the White majority, find themselves "on top" of the racial heap.You say "Right now, Linder and his followers are not a large presence in Kirksville, but as he builds support, he may attract more of his followers to our area." That sure is a scary scenario, Miss Julie. Something must be done to protect the gentle sensibilities of Kirksville residents from ideas that people like Mr. Linder have, advocating as he does for the interests of the White majority. So, like I said, please inform me of your next ADL/COH meeting, and let me know more about Mr. Linders proposed genocide of all Catholics, OK?

Sincerely,

Will W. Williams <whitewil@mindspring.com>

Great letter Will, very good points about Truman. You know Gore Vidal writes in his introduction to Israel Shahak's book that Truman was opposed to the recognition of the State of Israel until a Jew with a suitcase full of a million dollars cash showed up on his campaign trail.

Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion
Foreword by Gore Vidal [p. vii-viii]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip and occasional historian, John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S. Truman had been pretty much abandoned by everyone when he came to run for president. Then an American Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop campaign train. 'That's why our recognition of Israel was rushed through so fast.' As neither Jack nor I was an antisemite (unlike his father and my grandfather) we took this to be just another funny story about Truman and the serene corruption of American politics.

Unfortunately, the hurried recognition of Israel as a state has resulted in forty-five years of murderous confusion, and the destruction of what Zionist fellow travellers thought would be a pluralistic state - home to its native population of Muslims, Christians and Jews, as well as a future home to peaceful European and American Jewish immigrants, even the ones who affected to believe that the great realtor in the sky had given them, in perpetuity, the lands of Judea and Sameria. Since many of the immigrants were good socialists in Europe, we assumed that they would not allow the new state to become a theocracy, and that the native Palestinians could live with them as equals. This was not meant to be. I shall not rehearse the wars and alarms of that unhappy region. But I will say that the hasty invention of Israel has poisoned the political and intellectual life of the USA, Israel's unlikely patron.

Sorry did I say a million? make that 2. Truman's price for recognizing Israel. According to Gore Vidal. I'm sure that the professors at Truman State have heard of Gore Vidal. I give them license to freely quote me on this and look it up for themselves. I have Shahak's book but I quote the transcript reproduced here...

http://codoh.com/zionweb/zionhist.html

Frank Gunn
September 19th, 2005, 11:13 AM
From Truman State University’s website:
http://www.truman.edu/userfiles/VisitorsGuide/kvlogo.gif

Go get 'em Alex!

John Creagh
September 20th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Regional director for Anti-Defamation League encourages Kirksville to organize

BY HEIDI DUNKLEMAN, News Reporter
KIRKSVILLE - According to Karen Aroesty, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, the best way to counteract hate is with PIE.

PIE, an acronym for Protect, Investigate and Educate, are the goals of the ADL, Aroesty said. It tries to protect people by investigating hate groups [white groups jews hate] and educating [indoctrinating] people and law enforcement about these groups.

Aroesty spoke on two occasions in Kirksville Wednesday (September 14). The first speech was in the Georgian Room at Truman State University at noon and was titled, "Know Your Enemy: Update on Extremism in the Midwest." At 7 p.m. Aroesty spoke at the First Christian Church about "Community Responses to Hate and Bias Incidents."

Around 100 people came to the Georgian room at TSU to hear Aroesty. Her speech was aimed to educate people about different hate groups that exist today. She focused on many group's ideologies and how to recognize someone from these groups.

"The more knowledge you have about who they are and what they do, the more we can protect against them," she said. "This is more or less Extremism 101."

There are many hate groups that exist today with many different aims and ideas, Aroesty explained. No one really knows exactly how many groups there are, because these hate groups are more private than they used to be.

Aroesty's speech was about hate groups who are extremist, which she defines as a person or a group whose ideology leads to actions that hurt or kill other people. [Like judaism's ideology which led to the "civil rights" movement, the immigration act of 1965 (http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html), the Talmud's "the best of the goyim shall be killed"? No, those only hurt or kill white people, so they're OK.]

She talked about many different groups including the Patriot Movement, a group who believes in a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world; the Aryan Brotherhood, a prison gang who in addition to hating other races sells crystal meth; and the Posse Comitatus, a group who thinks the government is illegitimate and refuses to obey police or judges. These groups were just three in a long list.

One of the best ways to combat hate and extremism is to educate children, Aroesty said. It is important for communities to come together against hate, she added.

Sarah McDuff, a TSU senior, came to the talk because she wanted to be aware of the issue of hate crimes.

"It's always alarming to hear about what's going on," McDuff said. "But now I feel better informed."

Later that night, Aroesty spoke to about 60 members of the community at First Christian Church about how to combat hate in Kirksville.

She suggested forming an umbrella organization of the many current groups, such as civic and school groups. The purpose of this larger organization would be to get people out of their comfort zones and have optimistic discussions and activities emphasizing there is not place for hate.

The point is to show people who spread hate they will be ignored [Ignore them! But watch them!] and will become irrelevant [Then what are they so worried about?].

Dr. Dan Mandell [jew], associate professor of history at TSU, has already helped form a local group called Citizens United Against Hate. Their first event was to bring Aroesty to Kirksville to speak, but this is just the beginning of the group's plans, Mandell said. They plan on using her idea of an umbrella organization with positive events and discussions.

Mandell said acceptance is important to the community because Kirksville wants to continue to draw new residents and businesses.

Aroesty thinks Kirksville has made a good start in the fight against hate.

"I thought the optimism last night was cool," she said in an interview Thursday morning.

http://kirksvilledailyexpress.com/articles/2005/09/16/news/news10.txt

John Creagh
September 20th, 2005, 02:43 PM
http://www2.truman.edu/~dmandell/dan4.jpg
Daniel R. Mandell
Associate Professor of History
Truman State University

http://www2.truman.edu/~dmandell/

"He is also faculty advisor for Truman Hillel [jewish campus hate group]."

John Creagh
September 20th, 2005, 02:55 PM
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/images/teaser/aroesty_karen.jpg

Karen Aroesty
ADL Regional Director
St. Louis

SyTH88
September 20th, 2005, 06:06 PM
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/images/teaser/aroesty_karen.jpg

Karen Aroesty
ADL Regional Director
St. Louis

Anyone know if lionsgate drive in st. louis is in an exclusive jewish neighborhood?

Hell Raising Woman
September 20th, 2005, 11:19 PM
Know thy enemies who want to trash the U.S. with more third world filth and chaos through immigration, legal or illegal, including jewish supremacy.

Jenab
September 21st, 2005, 09:22 AM
sent to: lochbaum@truman.edu

> At Truman, fully 27% of our students
> self-identify as being Roman Catholic. What will
parents think when their
> students are considering Truman if a group advocating
killing Catholics
> resides here? Can we afford to put at risk 27% of our
Truman student
> rental income, or 27% of Truman student sales
receipts? And this is just
> the percentage of Truman students who fall into one
category that Linder's
> group hates.

I've been reading VNN for several years, and I know
Alex Linder. He has never advocated killing
Catholics. You are vulnerable to civil and criminal
penalties for libel, should Mr. Linder wish to pursue
legal relief from the harm your false allegations have
done to his reputation.

You would be well-advised to issue a retraction and an
apology to Mr. Linder, on terms he finds acceptable,
as soon as possible.

David Sims
Hillsboro, West Virginia

14
September 21st, 2005, 10:17 AM
Aroesty's speech was about hate groups who are extremist, which she defines as a person or a group whose ideology leads to actions that hurt or kill other people.I'm sorry...I'm just a little confused. Is she talking here about President Bush and his bombing of Iraq?




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Rounder
September 21st, 2005, 10:28 AM
Regional director for Anti-Defamation League encourages Kirksville to organize

BY HEIDI DUNKLEMAN, News Reporter
KIRKSVILLE - According to Karen Aroesty, the regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, the best way to counteract hate is with PIE.

PIE, an acronym for Protect, Investigate and Educate, are the goals of the ADL, Aroesty said. It tries to protect people by investigating hate groups [white groups jews hate] and educating [indoctrinating] people and law enforcement about these groups.

Aroesty spoke on two occasions in Kirksville Wednesday (September 14). The first speech was in the Georgian Room at Truman State University at noon and was titled, "Know Your Enemy: Update on Extremism in the Midwest." At 7 p.m. Aroesty spoke at the First Christian Church about "Community Responses to Hate and Bias Incidents."

Around 100 people came to the Georgian room at TSU to hear Aroesty. Her speech was aimed to educate people about different hate groups that exist today. She focused on many group's ideologies and how to recognize someone from these groups.

"The more knowledge you have about who they are and what they do, the more we can protect against them," she said. "This is more or less Extremism 101."

There are many hate groups that exist today with many different aims and ideas, Aroesty explained. No one really knows exactly how many groups there are, because these hate groups are more private than they used to be.

Aroesty's speech was about hate groups who are extremist, which she defines as a person or a group whose ideology leads to actions that hurt or kill other people. [Like judaism's ideology which led to the "civil rights" movement, the immigration act of 1965 (http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-immigration.html), the Talmud's "the best of the goyim shall be killed"? No, those only hurt or kill white people, so they're OK.]

She talked about many different groups including the Patriot Movement, a group who believes in a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world; the Aryan Brotherhood, a prison gang who in addition to hating other races sells crystal meth; and the Posse Comitatus, a group who thinks the government is illegitimate and refuses to obey police or judges. These groups were just three in a long list.

One of the best ways to combat hate and extremism is to educate children, Aroesty said. It is important for communities to come together against hate, she added.

Sarah McDuff, a TSU senior, came to the talk because she wanted to be aware of the issue of hate crimes.

"It's always alarming to hear about what's going on," McDuff said. "But now I feel better informed."

Later that night, Aroesty spoke to about 60 members of the community at First Christian Church about how to combat hate in Kirksville.

She suggested forming an umbrella organization of the many current groups, such as civic and school groups. The purpose of this larger organization would be to get people out of their comfort zones and have optimistic discussions and activities emphasizing there is not place for hate.

The point is to show people who spread hate they will be ignored [Ignore them! But watch them!] and will become irrelevant [Then what are they so worried about?].

Dr. Dan Mandell [jew], associate professor of history at TSU, has already helped form a local group called Citizens United Against Hate. Their first event was to bring Aroesty to Kirksville to speak, but this is just the beginning of the group's plans, Mandell said. They plan on using her idea of an umbrella organization with positive events and discussions.

Mandell said acceptance is important to the community because Kirksville wants to continue to draw new residents and businesses.

Aroesty thinks Kirksville has made a good start in the fight against hate.

"I thought the optimism last night was cool," she said in an interview Thursday morning.

http://kirksvilledailyexpress.com/articles/2005/09/16/news/news10.txt

Is anybody going to submit a Letter-to-Editor response to the above ?? Either Alex and/or one or more of our better writers ought to, in my judgment.

janewhite88
September 21st, 2005, 11:15 AM
Did Karen Aroesty get paid to give the speech? Some of those folks make a pretty penny spreading their type of hate.

Rounder
September 21st, 2005, 11:37 AM
Did Karen Aroesty get paid to give the speech? Some of those folks make a pretty penny spreading their type of hate.

Damn good question, Jane. I'll give 2 to 1 odds she did. Alex ought to demand equal time and equal pay to address the same student audience. After all, universities proclaim strong support for the fair and free exchange of political ideas, don't they?

How can it be either fair or free if only one side is allowed to speak to the "jury".

It's the same as being tried in a court of law wherein only the prosecution is allowed to present evidence, while the defense isn't even allowed inside the court house.

14
September 21st, 2005, 12:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/BatmanRobinKikesville.jpg



...........

JohnAFlynn
September 21st, 2005, 04:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/BatmanRobinKikesville.jpg



...........



That's great TOL!!! That graphic needs to be distributed in Kirksville, somehow. Probably no chance of getting it in the local paper.

JohnAFlynn
September 21st, 2005, 04:28 PM
That's great TOL!!! That graphic needs to be distributed in Kirksville, somehow. Probably no chance of getting it in the local paper.


Check it out folks, a local news board in Kirksville.

http://users.boardnation.com/~ktvotv/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=404

JohnAFlynn
September 21st, 2005, 04:29 PM
Check it out folks, a local news board in Kirksville.

http://users.boardnation.com/~ktvotv/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=404


Everyone join up and give support, and we can hopefully have the effect the jews try and have by convincing the Kirksville lemmings that "everyone" supports Linder against the hated Jews.

JohnAFlynn
September 21st, 2005, 04:40 PM
Everyone join up and give support, and we can hopefully have the effect the jews try and have by convincing the Kirksville lemmings that "everyone" supports Linder against the hated Jews.


They took it out right quick!!


"This topic does not exist on this board."

JohnAFlynn
September 21st, 2005, 04:44 PM
They took it out right quick!!


"This topic does not exist on this board."


New one.

http://users.boardnation.com/~ktvotv/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=406;start=0#lastPost

McKinley
September 21st, 2005, 05:04 PM
New one.

http://users.boardnation.com/~ktvotv/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=406;start=0#lastPost


That one did not last long either.

brutus
September 21st, 2005, 06:46 PM
This thought has crossed my mind over the past several weeks and I’ll toss it out for debate.

I believe that the jew is in the process of conditioning the local residents in Alex Linder’s town of Kirksville for his arrest, conviction and incarceration. They are obviously trying to sway public opinion against him with concerted effort. They are defaming him to the point where any jury at his trial will be hopelessly biased against him. The jew’s modus operandi of slander by media persecution is blatantly evident. Zog is gearing-up for another hatchet-job, witch-hunt and then kangaroo court trial ala Matt Hale against Linder.

The charges will be made-up. The press will be one-sided. Bail will be revoked. The jury will unanimously find him guilty as charged. We will watch him be railroaded and sent to solitary confinement in prison. Unless we are proactive.

The Aryan Alternative has got the jew’s attention and surely they will never openly admit to what degree that they fear this publication. We will never hear Bill O’Reilly tell us that the jew is very nervous and upset, and that the jew’s agenda is being seriously challenged. We don’t need this sort of validation to tell us that the jew has Linder in their gun-sights to be taken-out. All we need do is look to recent events and to what happened to those brave White men who have dared stand-up to the jew.

I am writing this, not with the purpose to try to dissuade Mr. Linder from his current course. Quite the contrary. I am writing these thoughts with the hopes that collectively we can band together and help come-up with some ideas and effective strategies to help protect a precious White Nationalist resource from harm and going down the tubes like so many before.

Alex Linder
September 21st, 2005, 07:23 PM
Good thoughts, guys. As soon as TAA#3 is done, I'll be working on a number of responses to the outrageous lies of the jews and their collaborators. I appreciate your proofed letters send to the movers-n-shakers list, and to the local paper.

chrissy
September 21st, 2005, 09:09 PM
I've been worried about the same thing as Brutus that they're looking for an offense they can trump up against Alex. This game works well against white leaders since they can isolate them and then harass them. George L. Rockwell mentioned in his book about fighting blacks "hit one and a million will come out after you". They're well organized and instinctively stick up for their leaders no matter what they do, the officials know that so they tread lightly with them unless it's really something serious where they have to do something. That's why I suggested that Alex should maintain a low profile. Although truthfully I think all of us wn's eventually are going to face this through hate crime laws they'll get passed. It might take them a while but I think that's what's coming. If the whites weren't so dumb they would back up the leaders - especially on juries, that would stop the Government from unfair prosecutions like what happened to David Duke and Matt Hale.

brutus
September 21st, 2005, 11:01 PM
RE: chrissy

The jew is the master of the character assassination, not so much because the jew is of greater intellect, but merely because the jew controls the media and thereby public opinion.

I’ve thought about this a little more, and I would suggest a proactive PR approach of our own to deflect and mitigate zog’s very probable unfair attacks against Mr. Linder.

The jew media is funded by paying people (subscribers) and that makes it impossible for us to beat them as far as their dollars vs. our dollars are concerned. So what we have left is our creative aptitudes, our instinct to survive and raw courage to carry the day.

If Mr. Linder were to be arrested on trumped-up charges, for whatever reason deemed by zog, I would imagine that it would be on some sort of Federal Crimes and Statutes that would be used against him. This means that the trial would be in a Federal District Court. I do not believe that Kirksville has a FDC. Here, I will defer to our WN lawyers for details of potential arrest scenarios, possible other justice system legal actions and count venue probabilities that might be applicable.

Nevertheless, we must anticipate this real possibility and act before bogus charges are filed and before the jew media is allowed to continue to defame and slander Mr. Linder with wanton abandon.

I suggest that we launch our own media blitz in the areas where we believe, that if arrested, Mr. Linder would have his case heard. Those areas should be given repeated positive information (not defensive) of Mr. Linder’s agenda and mission. Pro-White statements about Mr. Linder made on the various WN websites are fine but we should not rely upon that as a primary offensive strategy. I suggest a massive flyer campaign, (or tabloid) with a two-pronged message.

#1. Mr. Linder’s noble cause must be presented to the public in the most glowing terms. And Mr. Linder, himself, must have his personal positive attributes accentuated by other credible writers.

#2. People must be given a clear picture of who Mr. Linder’s enemies are. The emphasis here is on “clear picture”.

The benefits of this proactive approach are several. We personalize our message with a face, of a great champion of the White race. Noble words are great, but the masses need a face. The positive message will enhance Mr. Linder’s message and his prestige and show support from others in the process. People will be more likely to join a cause if they see others who are behind the figurehead of that cause. Monkey see, monkey do, we are human. The jew understands these simple things and so should we.

We also get a two-fer.........we get our message out in a positive way and we expose the jew before the jew hits us.

Isn’t it about time?

Thoughts?

janewhite88
September 21st, 2005, 11:02 PM
This thought has crossed my mind over the past several weeks and I’ll toss it out for debate.

I believe that the jew is in the process of conditioning the local residents in Alex Linder’s town of Kirksville for his arrest, conviction and incarceration. They are obviously trying to sway public opinion against him with concerted effort. They are defaming him to the point where any jury at his trial will be hopelessly biased against him. The jew’s modus operandi of slander by media persecution is blatantly evident. Zog is gearing-up for another hatchet-job, witch-hunt and then kangaroo court trial ala Matt Hale against Linder.

The charges will be made-up. The press will be one-sided. Bail will be revoked. The jury will unanimously find him guilty as charged. We will watch him be railroaded and sent to solitary confinement in prison. Unless we are proactive.

The Aryan Alternative has got the jew’s attention and surely they will never openly admit to what degree that they fear this publication. We will never hear Bill O’Reilly tell us that the jew is very nervous and upset, and that the jew’s agenda is being seriously challenged. We don’t need this sort of validation to tell us that the jew has Linder in their gun-sights to be taken-out. All we need do is look to recent events and to what happened to those brave White men who have dared stand-up to the jew.

I am writing this, not with the purpose to try to dissuade Mr. Linder from his current course. Quite the contrary. I am writing these thoughts with the hopes that collectively we can band together and help come-up with some ideas and effective strategies to help protect a precious White Nationalist resource from harm and going down the tubes like so many before.

It is the jews m.o. Best be prepared. It is natural to band together to protect such an important mover and shaker as Mr. Linder in our cause. The jew will take his time since the cards do seem to be in his favor. Maybe we can use that to our advantage. Building up a wall of responses to their media attack, two responses to every one of theirs....research the enemies as they surface, there is always political dirt and money trials to expose. Begin building your own local support Mr. Linder. Good luck.

Whirlwind
September 22nd, 2005, 06:55 AM
Point #2 could be developed with a photo comparison of Mr. Alex Linder and whatever kike detractor is least photogenic. With a simple caption along the lines of "Who represents YOUR interests?" A billboard could be funded by donations.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 22nd, 2005, 08:31 AM
Occasionally the Jews are able to orchestrate an elaborate plan to take somebody down. But dont exagerrate their power. For every one person that they run off, ten more join the affray.

Alex has tons of support right there in Kirksville, all around Missouri, and in the midwest. Right next to Missouri there is Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky. These are not hotbeds of Zion folks. Outside St Louis and Chicago most folks probably dont even know what Jews are.

We are watching the Jews. They should understand that the more strings they try and pull, the more likely they are to get their wings clipped. What is hidden, may come to light. Right now, we're showing how the Jews invade a small town, slander a local boy, and try and get townspeople to shun him. Well, they know that can be painful to people like Alex, because unlike the "Wandering Jews," Alex is rooted. Rooted in Missouri, the midwest. Rooted in the White community, to which Jews are and always will be alien.

Whites who live in Kirksville need to ask themselves, when the Jew carpetbaggers have left town, how will my neighbors judge my reaction to the Jew? Did I appear to be a lackey of the Jew carpetbagger, or was I a noble son or daughter of the "Show me" state who didnt listen to Jewish lies?

Rounder
September 22nd, 2005, 01:06 PM
That paper does not accept emailed LTEs nor do they post them on their website. But they do publish LTEs in their paper, if approved. I had a phone chat this morning with Greg Orear, who approves/disapproves LTEs, and asked him to consider printing mine, which follows:

"Dear Editor;

"Re: Regional director for Anti-Defamation League encourages Kirksville to organize, dtd 14 Sept 05.

"As your article states, Karen Aroesty of the ADL conducted two meetings in Kirksville to present an "Update on Extremism in the Midwest". Ms Aroesty was invited by TSU professor Dan Mandell, who also helped form a local group called Citizens United Against Hate.

"What your article failed to report was that the meetings and local organizing was caused by the mass distributions in and around Kirksville of our pro-White newspaper, The Aryan Alternative, who's publisher resides there. I am Director of Distributions for TAA, and have been a White Right's activist for over 31 years. I'm also a retired US Army Master Sergeant and served 2 tours in Vietnam, as well as 13 years in the Green Beret paratroopers.

"Freedom of speech and the press are guaranteed to all Americans, not just those who support the jews and their powerful Jewish Anti-Defamation League, which as their name implies, works to censor/suppress criticisms of jews and Israel.

"The good patriotic folks of Kirksville should welcome our newspaper rather than join the ADL's attempted censorship of it. The Aryan Alternative presents news and views from a White perspective not found in any system newspaper. Simply put, we work for the rights of White people and for the future of White children. And we will continue in spite of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League and their anti-White, self-hating gentile helpers at TSU.

"The 4th edition of The Aryan Alternative will be printed in 45,000 copies. And you can be assured thousands will be delivered to Kirksville's citizens, thanks to the ADL's appearance there.

"Thanks you for allowing my free speech in your newspaper." (End of LTE).

"GLENN MILLER
Master Sergeant - US Army, Retired
PO Box 3861,
Springfield, MO 65808
tel: 417-258-7785

OFF THE RECORD: Hey Greg, you'll recall our today's phone chat. As you can see, my LTE does not contain racist or anti-semitic content. Just a simple defense of our newspaper and explanation. If you feel brave enough, you might include our websites inside my LTE (govnn.com and vnnforum.com), as well as my phone number. For your own education regarding the ADL, I suggest you check out webshells.com. The ADL is one of the most powerful anti-Christian and anti-American groups in the world, who's purpose is to stiffle criticise of jews, and to promote the interests of world jewry.

Antiochus Epiphanes
September 22nd, 2005, 03:02 PM
That URL is actually www.adlwatch.org, which is apparently also http://www.webshells.com/adlwatch/

They've all probably read VNN plenty anyhow, so they will see it well as anybody else reading this.

JohnAFlynn
September 22nd, 2005, 03:21 PM
If Mr. Linder were to be arrested on trumped-up charges, for whatever reason deemed by zog, I would imagine that it would be on some sort of Federal Crimes and Statutes that would be used against him. This means that the trial would be in a Federal District Court. I do not believe that Kirksville has a FDC. Here, I will defer to our WN lawyers for details of potential arrest scenarios, possible other justice system legal actions and count venue probabilities that might be applicable.

That's absolutely how they do it. I discussed that when they went after Hale. Even if you live in a rural area, if they can get you in Fed Court, you'll likely be in a big shitty, very diverse.

JohnAFlynn
September 22nd, 2005, 03:26 PM
That's absolutely how they do it. I discussed that when they went after Hale. Even if you live in a rural area, if they can get you in Fed Court, you'll likely be in a big shitty, very diverse.


Actually, I just checked it out, and it looks like Kirksville is in the Northern Division of the Eastern District of Missouri, with a Court in Hannibal. Hannibal shows to be 90.6% White, but they can get jurors from within a certain radius of Hannibal, but it still seems mostly White. So unless they can trump up something allegedly occurring in St. Louis or Kansas City, it looks OK. Actually then, if they stir everyone in Kirksville up against him, State court in Kirksville would be better for the kikes.

14
September 22nd, 2005, 03:29 PM
Mr. Flynn: Knowing that a trusted associate (Tony Evola) brought down Matt Hale, what should Mr. Linder do to make sure no one he's presently associating with isn't an FBI/JTTF operative/turncoat? In other words, what should Mr. Linder do now to protect himself from a federal prison cell that Matt Hale should have done regarding himself - such as: check associates to see if they're wired, evading entrapment, etc?



.

Rounder
September 22nd, 2005, 06:03 PM
Mr. Flynn: Knowing that a trusted associate (Tony Evola) brought down Matt Hale, what should Mr. Linder do to make sure no one he's presently associating with isn't an FBI/JTTF operative/turncoat? In other words, what should Mr. Linder do now to protect himself from a federal prison cell that Matt Hale should have done regarding himself - such as: check associates to see if they're wired, evading entrapment, etc?



.

That's simple. Alex reports the SOB who tells him he's gonna murder a federal judge on Alex's behalf.

Your question/scenario is applicable to all WNs who actively oppose ZOG and the GD kikes from the above ground, legal Movement. As is the obvious answer. Rules governing the below ground Movement (if there is one), is a different matter entirely.

Besides, Alex should not discuss all his security measures publicly, for obvious reasons.

My words above should serve to discourage WNs reading it from ever suggesting anything illegal in Alex's presence. Got it ??

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 06:36 PM
As I've said in the past, I'm completely against illegal activity. VNN is 100% legal, always has been, always will be. So, if anybody advises me he or she is going to attack people in our name, I will print it here.

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 06:49 PM
This thought has crossed my mind over the past several weeks and I’ll toss it out for debate.

I believe that the jew is in the process of conditioning the local residents in Alex Linder’s town of Kirksville for his arrest, conviction and incarceration. They are obviously trying to sway public opinion against him with concerted effort. They are defaming him to the point where any jury at his trial will be hopelessly biased against him. The jew’s modus operandi of slander by media persecution is blatantly evident. Zog is gearing-up for another hatchet-job, witch-hunt and then kangaroo court trial ala Matt Hale against Linder.

The charges will be made-up. The press will be one-sided. Bail will be revoked. The jury will unanimously find him guilty as charged. We will watch him be railroaded and sent to solitary confinement in prison. Unless we are proactive.

This is a very odd post, Brutus. It comes off funny. You know what I mean?

I write and edit. I speak in public. I pass out a newspaper. Where's the crime?

Jenab
September 22nd, 2005, 06:57 PM
As I've said in the past, I'm completely against illegal activity. VNN is 100% legal, always has been, always will be. So, if anybody advises me he or she is going to attack people in our name, I will print it here.
I think you should file a civil action against Ms. Lochbaum because of her false allegation that you lead a group that advocates killing Catholics. I mean, if you said something like that about her, she probably wouldn't hesitate to sue you over it. Most likely, you were never supposed to see a copy of that letter she circulated about you; she probably believed that you'd never know about this very damaging lie. I wonder what sort of damages a court would award you, if you won. Can you imagine any way that Lochbaum could file a cross-claim on some pretext or other?

Jerry Abbott

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 07:08 PM
I'm looking into it.

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 07:12 PM
[Just noticed this in the inbox...]

From: James Lochbaum <daemonicus223@gmail.com>
Reply To: daemonicus223@gmail.com
To: <alinder@kvmo.net>
Subject: De Oppresso Liber
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:28:23 -0500

Yes, its another criticizing email for you to doctor and respond to in hopes
of making yourself sound intelligent. If it wasn't for your location in my home town of Kirksville I would regard you as someone beneath my notice. However, your hate movement is going national and you are claiming to be headquartered in Kirksville, so I have decided to write you and make you aware of my opinion on this. First of all, you subscribe to the revisionist history of the Holocaust which is particularly bogus. How do you propose that the hundreds of thousands of people who have seen or survived in concentration/death camps are all lying? How do you suppose their stories coordinate so well with actual installations that were liberated by Allied troops? Whats next? We didn't really land on the moon? You're an Aryan supremacist and yet, whats this, you yourself aren't actually Aryan. Yes, I realize you probably have your own definition of Aryan to cover this and its a moot point but the fact that you believe Jews are behind so many of the problems in our country is absolutely ridiculous. What is behind most of the problems we have in America is ignorance, which your group seems to be a bastion of. If you people would simply stop bitching about problems happening and actually try to fix them rather than driving a wedge deeper into our nation then we might get somewhere. Sometimes it is honestly hard for me to believe people like you can claim to be patriotic Americans or whatever it is that you call yourselves. Diversity is what has allowed this country to prosper. The United States was formed out of colonies who were each very different with widely different customs and sets of laws. We have struggled with racism and bigotry, but we have learned a lot from our stumbles and falls. What is important is that we have gotten back up fixed many of these problems and continued on. You seem to want to keep us from progressing and it is because of this that I want you out of my town.

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 07:14 PM
No idea if this is from "Doctor" Lochbaum herself, her "James," but whatever, it's 200-proof education-major twaddle. And doesn't change the fact that her lie is actionable.

JohnAFlynn
September 22nd, 2005, 07:23 PM
That's simple. Alex reports the SOB who tells him he's gonna murder a federal judge on Alex's behalf.

Your question/scenario is applicable to all WNs who actively oppose ZOG and the GD kikes from the above ground, legal Movement. As is the obvious answer. Rules governing the below ground Movement (if there is one), is a different matter entirely.

Besides, Alex should not discuss all his security measures publicly, for obvious reasons.

My words above should serve to discourage WNs reading it from ever suggesting anything illegal in Alex's presence. Got it ??


What he said.

Actually TOL, it really is that simple. Hale should have gotten rid of Tony Evola, and probably informed on him for suggesting murder. Had he actually gone to the FBI to tell them about Evola's hounding of him, they NEVER could have made those charges stick, and very likely would have abandoned the whole operation. Plus he could have gone a step further and sent a letter to the judge cc'ed to the U.S. Marshals outlining what Evola said and urging extra security for the judge. This way, even if the JTTF were still dead set on going after him, Lefkow would have known that Hale harbored no such plans towards her and would not have cooperated with the railroad job.

Fritz Kuhn
September 22nd, 2005, 07:38 PM
No idea if this is from "Doctor" Lochbaum herself, her "James," but whatever, it's 200-proof education-major twaddle. And doesn't change the fact that her lie is actionable.

It is certainly actionable as defamation and libel. However, the court room is the jews' playground and the rules are written to protect them and their interests. My guess is that their winning argument will be that a person who has called for the murder of all jews can not be defamed or libeled since he has no reputation to lose. In other words, it's open season on you.

Joseph
September 22nd, 2005, 07:42 PM
Sent to Mr. [sic] Lochbaum via email...
Mr. Lochbaum,

The United States was formed under the pretense that negroes are not men. Thomas Jefferson said that negroes and Whites cannot live under the same government. History has proven him correct. You should try to be more open minded. Many thousands of people of all races suffer needlessly in this country every day as a direct result of racism. It cannot be unlearned, erased or ignored. When Whites consider themselves above racism, or any of nature's laws, it brings harm. Stop the hate -- separate!

Regards,
Joseph
-Fayetteville, Arkansas

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 08:17 PM
It is certainly actionable as defamation and libel. However, the court room is the jews' playground and the rules are written to protect them and their interests. My guess is that their winning argument will be that a person who has called for the murder of all jews can not be defamed or libeled since he has no reputation to lose. In other words, it's open season on you.

Maybe, maybe not.

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 08:20 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.

J.P. Slovjanski
September 22nd, 2005, 08:30 PM
What he said.

Actually TOL, it really is that simple. Hale should have gotten rid of Tony Evola, and probably informed on him for suggesting murder. Had he actually gone to the FBI to tell them about Evola's hounding of him, they NEVER could have made those charges stick, and very likely would have abandoned the whole operation. Plus he could have gone a step further and sent a letter to the judge cc'ed to the U.S. Marshals outlining what Evola said and urging extra security for the judge. This way, even if the JTTF were still dead set on going after him, Lefkow would have known that Hale harbored no such plans towards her and would not have cooperated with the railroad job.

You know what is ironic?

You're right about Hale, he should have reported the guy. But let's imagine that he DID, hypothetically. Evola would disappear from the church and probably start a shit-talking campaign about Hale. The whole movement would rise up against Matt Hale "The Rat". Everyone would pat themselves on the back for speaking out against this "rat", never realizing what would have happened. Hindsight is 20/20.

Stan Sikorski
September 22nd, 2005, 08:31 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.

Hail Victory!! ...and take a film crew.

Steve B
September 22nd, 2005, 08:32 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.

Heh! That should be a corker! To bad you can't audio tape it and have Stan put it up on Goyfire, priceless Itz!

J.P. Slovjanski
September 22nd, 2005, 08:33 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.


This is an excellent opportunity. Is this a college or high school class?

Alex Linder
September 22nd, 2005, 08:41 PM
I don't want to say just now. Full report when it's time.

I'll hit some main points but mostly answer questions is how I suspect it will go.

Paul Drake
September 22nd, 2005, 08:43 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.

Chew 'em up and spit 'em out, Alex!

Fenrir
September 22nd, 2005, 08:48 PM
No idea if this is from "Doctor" Lochbaum herself, her "James," but whatever, it's 200-proof education-major twaddle. And doesn't change the fact that her lie is actionable.

Boy, you said it. That email repeats every little shibboleth of the Jewists you can imagine. "Stop spreading hate." "Diversity is our strength." "Your views are based on ignorance!" Blah blah. A bunch of cultists who will swallow any idiocy and lie they're fed by the kikes, and they're running the educational institutions of our civilization...

14
September 22nd, 2005, 09:03 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. Sounds like a good opportunity. However, be wary of traps, such as being invited to speak only to be ambushed by hecklers, egg throwers, or worse, as has happened to many a college campus speaker. Some things you might want to do to protect yourself:

1: Invite someone along with a camcorder to record the presentation, as well as to document any verbal or physical abuse from the audience, should it take place. A digital camera operated by one other associate would be handy too, to take photos for later use in the TAA or other promotional material, as well as use on the Internet.

2: Have at least one other associate along (intimidating in appearance if possible) ready to jump in at a moment's notice should someone attempt to rush the podium with malicious intent. It's happened to some of the nation's top politicians, as you know, so it could happen to you.

3: Bring along and pass out some programs outlining the key points of our cause, so interested audience members can peruse them later on. Include your Internet address, of course.



.

Jenab
September 22nd, 2005, 09:15 PM
No idea if this is from "Doctor" Lochbaum herself, her "James," but whatever, it's 200-proof education-major twaddle. And doesn't change the fact that her lie is actionable.
Yes, it is. Are you having trouble finding a local lawyer who will do the right thing?

Yes, its another criticizing email for you to doctor and respond to in hopes of making yourself sound intelligent. If it wasn't for your location in my home town of Kirksville I would regard you as someone beneath my notice. However, your hate movement is going national and you are claiming to be headquartered in Kirksville, so I have decided to write you and make you aware of my opinion on this.
Is this Julie Lochbaum's husband or relative? Not only do you not get a public apology and retraction of her malicious and false "Catholic-killing" allegations, instead you get a hoity-toity pseudo-intellectual insult on top of that injury.

Notice their opening tactic. Julie Lochbaum didn't write you herself to deny that she ever said you lead a group that advocates killing Catholics. Instead, someone else is writing you to make a vague statement that you doctored her letter. This gives Julie plausible deniability: if one or more of those other recipients of her email chooses to share their copy with you or with your attorney, she won't, at least, seem to have told you a direct lie. She may say that James simply made some incorrect assumptions without consulting her about the facts.

First of all, you subscribe to the revisionist history of the Holocaust which is particularly bogus.
No, it's not, Mr. Lochbaum. The revisionist history version of the Holocaust tale is more factual by far than the Jewish propaganda version that most people hear.

How do you propose that the hundreds of thousands of people who have seen or survived in concentration/death camps are all lying? How do you suppose their stories coordinate so well with actual installations that were liberated by Allied troops?
Actually, there's a lot of inconsistency between one Jew's Holocaust tale and another Jew's tale. There are inconsistencies between Jews' sworn court testimonies and physics, chemistry, medical science, known architectural facts, etc. There are known instances of photographic fraud. And the Soviets had plenty of time to produce fake documents and phony physical evidence - like that jug of alleged "human fat soap" shown to the IMT court at Nuremberg, which, in reality, was a jug of ordinary soap.

Given a fair and objective trial, which political considerations presently preclude, the Jewish Holocaust story would be convicted as fraud.

Whats next? We didn't really land on the moon?
No, Mr. Lochbaum. That we Americans sent some of our own men to the moon is not in question. Um, were you Jews planning on doing likewise in the foreseeable future?

You're an Aryan supremacist and yet, whats this, you yourself aren't actually Aryan. Yes, I realize you probably have your own definition of Aryan to cover this and its a moot point...
No, it's not a "moot point"; it is a fact. The Aryans who founded the Indus Valley civilization were not the original Aryans. The earliest of the Indus Valley Aryans were themselves descendants of Aryan migrants from the original Aryan homeland in the region where Russia and Ukraine are today; chiefly, the territory between the Caucasus and the Urals, and between the Baltic and Caspian Seas. The Indus Valley Aryans weren't the only Aryan migratory group, however; there were many others. They spread out from their homeland in all directions. Some of them went to NW India, some to Iran, some into central Asia, some into Europe, and some into north Africa. The Teutons are as Aryan as the Indus Valley Aryans were.

...but the fact that you believe Jews are behind so many of the problems in our country is absolutely ridiculous.
No, it's not "ridiculous." It's true. The Jews intend to control all of the world's nations, and their general strategy involves gaining access to the choke points of actual power. Sometimes these points correspond to public office, but more frequently they correspond to the capacities of financeer, or media boss, or bureaucratic authority, or judge. It is not for nothing that these are the jobs where you find Jews in vastly disproportionate numbers.

What is behind most of the problems we have in America is ignorance, which your group seems to be a bastion of.
What's behind most of the problems we have in America is disinformation and multiculturalism. And though I'd not call you ignorant, a lot of us racists can match our knowledge or technical skill against yours and come off the better. Have a care whom you call ignorant.

If you people would simply stop bitching about problems happening and actually try to fix them rather than driving a wedge deeper into our nation then we might get somewhere.
Jews are really big on the kind of argument that begins with the words, "If people would..." Any argument that depends on something being what it is not is worthless. Those very words carry the implication that people DON'T. That you think they SHOULD is not important. And that's a general truth in regard to people, not in regard to us VNN racists in particular.

Sometimes it is honestly hard for me to believe people like you can claim to be patriotic Americans or whatever it is that you call yourselves.
We're patriotic Americans. Mind, we're not patriotic US citizens. We are Americans - White people descended from the White people who founded a national outgrowth of their European culture and genetic heritage. All Americans are White.

US citizenship is a legal status. American nationality is a biological fact. Nationality, native, nativity... all these words derive from the Latin root "natal," which means birth. Nationality refers not to law, but to heredity, to bloodline, to race. Your nationality and your race are the same thing. Your nationality and your citizenship are different things. The law can give you citizenship, but only God can give you nationality...and even He gets only one chance.

"Citizen of the United States" is semantically peer to "citizen of the United Kingdom." American is semantically peer to Englishman or Saxon. Though Jews and non-Whites might (perhaps) have legal citizenship in the United States, they are not Americans, and they never will be.

Diversity is what has allowed this country to prosper. The United States was formed out of colonies who were each very different with widely different customs and sets of laws.
What allowed this country to prosper was White industriousness and ingenuity combined with a continent which had vast natural resources. Oh, plus racism. Whites would have been slaughtered by the Indians if they had not had, back in pioneer days, the racial solidarity to hang together in a fight against a racial opponent. Multiculturalism makes people weak; racism makes people strong.

We have struggled with racism and bigotry...
Those two are different things. Bigotry, or prejudice, is an instinctive dislike of someone. It happens. But racism is an informed preference for one's own race, based upon knowledge gained about other races. Bigotry is a natural reflex. Racism is a philosophy.

...but we have learned a lot from our stumbles and falls. What is important is that we have gotten back up fixed many of these problems and continued on.
Mr. Lochbaum, either you are someone who continues to wallow in the errors of the liberal racial equality doctrine, despite copious evidence that it is pure fantasy, or else you know better and pretend to believe what you do not. The only way to know whether you are a dupe or a deceiver would be to put you in Israel and discover whether or not you'd advocate for the full integration of Palestinians and Israelis, with equal representation in the government, equal rights in Jerusalem, equal opportunity in every industry and in the military, and the apportionment of land and political power in keeping with the usual democratic principle of "one man, one vote." Do you?

You seem to want to keep us from progressing and it is because of this that I want you out of my town.
Well, Mr. Lochbaum, you seem to want to keep Americans from recognizing the sins of multiculturalism, and for that reason you should get out of my country.

Jerry Abbott

brutus
September 22nd, 2005, 09:22 PM
RE: Alex

This is a very odd post, Brutus. It comes off funny. You know what I mean?

I write and edit. I speak in public. I pass out a newspaper. Where's the crime?

Yes Alex, I do know precisely what you mean. So let me clarify,

All of in here fully realize that this website is 100% legitimate and that you have never advocated or implied that members of this forum step out of bounds of acceptable legal behavior. Also, those of us who have been here for awhile, are well aware that you, yourself, are a straight-shooter and that you and your close associates have helped guide us in our dissent to be forthrightly legal. For many of us, protesting is a new endeavor, and the last thing that we want to do is commit any sort of crime. The first amendment allows us great latitude, but there are boundaries and conditions that must be adhered to and in my opinion this website maintains the proper legal positions and that’s why I participate on this forum.

My posts, in this thread were warnings of a sort, that in spite of us doing everything by the book, our detractors do not play by the rules. We have seen other men tossed into jail and placed in solitary confinement for life, simply for nodding their heads! The people who don’t like what we say control all of the media and much of the justice department mechanisms. Past experience has proved that they will invent charges and stack a jury against anyone who dare oppose them. Then they toss that person in jail and do not allow him to speak, even to his own mother. To say that our present criminal justice system is draconian and biased against White men would be a gross understatement.

The real purpose of my sharing those thoughts, was to help us learn from the past mistakes of others and to propose strategies to offset the unwarranted attacks from our detractors. I did so for your benefit as well as for those others who might be thinking about standing-up and letting their voice be heard. And furthermore, I also do realize that you already know all of these things that I’ve just written in this post. But every once and a while, even the greatest outfielder, needs a heads-up from a team mate.

Rounder
September 22nd, 2005, 10:19 PM
Someone asked me to address his class next week, here in Kirksville. A chance to spread the good news...

Do right, fear no man!

We are doing right.

First off, I'd ask the 90 percent-plus student audience this question: "Raise your hand if you believe the White Race has the right to survive."

Then I'd present them with population statistics, proving the White Race is dying out rapidly; not only in the U.S., but worldwide.

Then for the remainder of the session, I'd take questions and comments regarding what should be done to (1) Save our Race from extinction, and (2) Free our people from the GD kikes.

(And don't forget to provide them all with a copy of TAA)

JohnAFlynn
September 23rd, 2005, 09:01 AM
You know what is ironic?

You're right about Hale, he should have reported the guy. But let's imagine that he DID, hypothetically. Evola would disappear from the church and probably start a shit-talking campaign about Hale. The whole movement would rise up against Matt Hale "The Rat". Everyone would pat themselves on the back for speaking out against this "rat", never realizing what would have happened. Hindsight is 20/20.


I had already thought about that, and when I saw your first sentence I immediately thought "yes, hindsight is 20/20." Obviously, in the alternate universe where Hale "rats" on Evola, we wouldn't know about ZOG's would-have-been prosecution of him. All I can say is, I'm sure Hale would rather be slandered as a rat, than living like one in a Fed prison.

JohnAFlynn
September 23rd, 2005, 09:05 AM
I don't want to say just now. Full report when it's time.

I'll hit some main points but mostly answer questions is how I suspect it will go.


It reminds me of Dr. Pierce's story about how he went, back in the 70's, to some high school in Virginia or D.C. to speak to a class, and some nigger was feeling up a blonde chick in the front row, appearing as a means of trying to rile up Dr. Pierce, while the teacher just smirked. I think his conclusion was that those kids had been so thoroughly jewified that they were unreachable. Hopefully it's not the case there.

janewhite88
September 23rd, 2005, 01:22 PM
As I've said in the past, I'm completely against illegal activity. VNN is 100% legal, always has been, always will be. So, if anybody advises me he or she is going to attack people in our name, I will print it here.

Thanks for sharing that. I myself have wondered what your plan of action would be when faced with that situation.

Alex Linder
September 23rd, 2005, 11:22 PM
RE: Alex

The real purpose of my sharing those thoughts, was to help us learn from the past mistakes of others and to propose strategies to offset the unwarranted attacks from our detractors. I did so for your benefit as well as for those others who might be thinking about standing-up and letting their voice be heard. And furthermore, I also do realize that you already know all of these things that I’ve just written in this post. But every once and a while, even the greatest outfielder, needs a heads-up from a team mate.

Ok, that's a good clarification. Now let's put the focus back on the multiple-times-convicted felons at the ADL, instead of innocent me.

Amalekite
September 24th, 2005, 12:52 AM
First of all, you subscribe to the revisionist history of the Holocaust which is particularly bogus. How do you propose that the hundreds of thousands of people who have seen or survived in concentration/death camps are all lying? How do you suppose their stories coordinate so well with actual installations that were liberated by Allied troops?

Obviously this person needs to be swacked in the head a couple of times with a copy of The Leuchter Report (http://www.revisionists.com/leuchter/reports/). (Figuratively speaking, of course. I am not advocating any physical violence against Mr. Lochbaum or anyone else for that matter.)

Amalekite
September 24th, 2005, 01:05 AM
Diversity is what has allowed this country to prosper. . . You seem to want to keep us from progressing and it is because of this that I want you out of my town.

That's a very tolerant attitude.

Cthulhu
September 24th, 2005, 04:35 AM
Ok, that's a good clarification. Now let's put the focus back on the multiple-times-convicted felons at the ADL, instead of innocent me.

NO! Again NO! And just to be a little more emphatic: NO!

When facing a more well supplied enemy, before risking a face to face confrontation it is best to harry the supply lines, thus weakening the main force, and lowering morale.

Now we all know the ADL are scumbags. I think they gave an award to a pornographer didn't they? So switch tack. 2 for 1, you can't go wrong. Attack the supporters of the ADL, for supporting morally bankrupt people. Do you support the activities the ADL members support, or the previous criminal activities of the ADL members? You might ask. Put them on the defensive, smear them with guilt by association. Give them no rest.

If the supporters want to take the high-moral ground show them the face of the company they keep, and 'birds of a feather flock together'. Shine a light.

Remember Linder, we are the good guys!

Grog007
September 24th, 2005, 06:07 PM
I would like to move out of New York. Maybe I should move to Kirksville and bring the diversity it loves and encourages by contributing my racial views along with Alex Linder.
Ditto, what other majors does Truman State offer besides "ed u fudge kikng", especially with my recent problems.

Rounder
September 25th, 2005, 05:06 PM
NO! Again NO! And just to be a little more emphatic: NO!

When facing a more well supplied enemy, before risking a face to face confrontation it is best to harry the supply lines, thus weakening the main force, and lowering morale.

Now we all know the ADL are scumbags. I think they gave an award to a pornographer didn't they? So switch tack. 2 for 1, you can't go wrong. Attack the supporters of the ADL, for supporting morally bankrupt people. Do you support the activities the ADL members support, or the previous criminal activities of the ADL members? You might ask. Put them on the defensive, smear them with guilt by association. Give them no rest.

If the supporters want to take the high-moral ground show them the face of the company they keep, and 'birds of a feather flock together'. Shine a light.

Remember Linder, we are the good guys!

"Attack", you say ?? Excellent. Now then, how many attacking TAAs shall I put you down for ?? They're on sale - less that costs.

50 copies. . . $ 8.00
100 copies. . .$16.00
200 copies. . .$32.00 total

Send check, cash, or money order to:

Glenn Miller
PO Box 3861,
Springfield, MO 65808
tel: 417-258-7785

What say ye ???

Cthulhu
September 25th, 2005, 05:50 PM
I live in New Zealand, you find a way for me to get you some money and I'll send you some (not a lot mind you, but some).

PS. I'd rather put the money towards something with a sure return for the White community, something that will end up generating liquidity for the "cause", such as it is. But if I'm going to snipe at it, its fair to throw some dosh your way if I can.

Steve B
September 25th, 2005, 06:01 PM
I live in New Zealand, you find a way for me to get you some money and I'll send you some (not a lot mind you, but some).

Are their no envelopes, stamps, mail service in NZ or is everything done via carrier pigeon? :rolleyes:

Cthulhu
September 25th, 2005, 06:16 PM
Funny thing is, we don't actually use American money here. I know, I know, strange and peculiar it maybe, nevertheless it is true. As for money orders it requires opening a foreign bank account and I don't like banks in the first place so why would I open another to avail myself of feeding it fees every once and so often? I could transfer it directly into your bank account if you have a SWIFT code ect., but that is $25NZD a pop not counting any fees that your bank might decide to subtract.

But if you can exchange foreign currency, then what the hey...

Steve B
September 25th, 2005, 06:50 PM
But if you can exchange foreign currency, then what the hey...

I can't but most US banks can. Is their a problem with NZ banks exchanging your money into US dollars? If so, then send Miller NZ dollars. I'm sure he can find a way to turn them into US zogbucks. It ain't rocket science.

Rounder
September 25th, 2005, 08:39 PM
Funny thing is, we don't actually use American money here. I know, I know, strange and peculiar it maybe, nevertheless it is true. As for money orders it requires opening a foreign bank account and I don't like banks in the first place so why would I open another to avail myself of feeding it fees every once and so often? I could transfer it directly into your bank account if you have a SWIFT code ect., but that is $25NZD a pop not counting any fees that your bank might decide to subtract.

But if you can exchange foreign currency, then what the hey...

Yeah Cthulhu, just send cash. I'll exhaust all efforts to get it exchanged into American bucks. If I fail, I'll return your cash. Deal ??

My address is:

Glenn Miller
PO Box 3861,
Springfield, MO 65808
U.S.A.

And I'll post your contribution here on VNNF, as I do for everyone who contributes. I'll put you on my "atta-boy" list, and tap dance and sing "Dixie" next time you get married.

Whatchasay bout dat proposition ??

14
September 25th, 2005, 11:58 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/JulieLochbaumPhD.jpg

More info on Julie Lochbaum: She presented her Ph.d thesis at the University of South Carolina back in 1993 on this militant preacher groid, proof's she's a hard-core nigger-lover:

http://www.sc.edu/usctimes/articles/2004-08/images/brownvboard_exhibit_1.jpg
Rev. J.A. DeLaine speaks from the pulpit

PS: She probably has a framed photograph of Malcolm X in her university office as well, with lipsticked kiss marks all over it.


.

Tannhauser
September 26th, 2005, 04:26 AM
The ADL is a terrorist organization. It operates by trying to scare the !@#! out of people. They will take a weak target to make an example. But they will bide their time to strike when they feel strongest.

Do not be afraid of them. They are evil. We are good. They do evil. We do good. They are wrong. We are right.

Cthulhu
September 26th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Yeah Cthulhu, just send cash. I'll exhaust all efforts to get it exchanged into American bucks. If I fail, I'll return your cash. Deal ??

My address is:

Glenn Miller
PO Box 3861,
Springfield, MO 65808
U.S.A.

And I'll post your contribution here on VNNF, as I do for everyone who contributes. I'll put you on my "atta-boy" list, and tap dance and sing "Dixie" next time you get married.

Whatchasay bout dat proposition ??

Kay, but you'll have to wait as I'm adding you to my list of obligations and as is always the case, it is first come, first served, but shouldn't be less than 2 wks. And don't worry about adding me to any lists.

BTW: I didn't miss that sly attempt at getting an invitation to any future wedding of mine and trying to palm it off as as a quid-pro-quo. Kike-a-like :eek:

Rounder
September 26th, 2005, 07:34 AM
Kay, but you'll have to wait as I'm adding you to my list of obligations and as is always the case, it is first come, first served, but shouldn't be less than 2 wks. And don't worry about adding me to any lists.

BTW: I didn't miss that sly attempt at getting an invitation to any future wedding of mine and trying to palm it off as as a quid-pro-quo. Kike-a-like :eek:

I'll have you know it was Redneck-alike, not Kike-alike. Us Rednecks can be sly too, ya know.

Thanks for the pledge. Now, both of us will sleep better. And not to worry. Should you forget, I'll remind ya rat cheer rat quick. Nothing personal you understand. Just doing my job like the good and dedicated Nazi I am.

Sieg Heil !!!

Cthulhu
September 27th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Nah, Rhonda you can stick it up your arse and tell Linder where he can put it as well. I'm not going to support people helping to provide a venue for muds to trash talk white people.

Amalekite
September 27th, 2005, 06:47 AM
Nah, Rhonda you can stick it up your arse and tell Linder where he can put it as well. I'm not going to support people helping to provide a venue for muds to trash talk white people.

WTF? :eek:

SyTH88
September 27th, 2005, 02:58 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/JulieLochbaumPhD.jpg

More info on Julie Lochbaum: She presented her Ph.d thesis at the University of South Carolina back in 1993 on this militant preacher groid, proof's she's a hard-core nigger-lover:

http://www.sc.edu/usctimes/articles/2004-08/images/brownvboard_exhibit_1.jpg
Rev. J.A. DeLaine speaks from the pulpit

PS: She probably has a framed photograph of Malcolm X in her university office as well, with lipsticked kiss marks all over it.


.

Try lick marks all over it.

YANKEE_JIM
September 27th, 2005, 07:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/JulieLochbaumPhD.jpg

More info on Julie Lochbaum: She presented her Ph.d thesis at the University of South Carolina back in 1993 on this militant preacher groid, proof's she's a hard-core nigger-lover:

http://www.sc.edu/usctimes/articles/2004-08/images/brownvboard_exhibit_1.jpg
Rev. J.A. DeLaine speaks from the pulpit




Wasn't that right about the time that movie "X" came out...and ya saw all the little misled White kids (and a few of their pathetic White parents) running around the shopping malls with their "X" baseball caps and t-shirts on???

And they say Hollywood doesn't influence the masses! :rolleyes:


-Yankee Jim

Abzug Hoffman
September 28th, 2005, 09:56 PM
From the "Judaic Law...Kosher Dinner" thread.

"..the Noahide regulations require that idolaters — devout Catholics, for example, people exactly like Justice Scalia — be put to death. Could it be that Rabbi Gurary did not tell Justice Scalia about the Noahide provisions to execute people like Scalia?..."

See my post today in this [Judaic Law...Kosher Dinner] thread where the "reconstituted Sanhedrin" is behind this movement.

If all this checks out (it sounds too crazy to be true, but that's chutzpah) maybe VNN should take out an ad in the Kirksville newspaper to let Kirksville know this, since they are so concerned about hate and all.

Abzug Hoffman
September 29th, 2005, 10:11 AM
14 years ago, in a conversation with a jewish orthodox scholar of my acquaintance, I asked him why the orthodox jews no longer stone to death women who commit adultery, in keeping with their rules & regulations. His reply was that it was only because, for purely technical reasons, the jews could not get a proper sanhendrin together to pronounce sentence & direct the punishment; the desire to carry out this ancient law was still there.

And all this time I thought they avoided stoning people to death because they were residing in western, gentile, Christian countries where (no shit) there are laws against this sort of thing. Silly me.

It's funny how Jews claim they are the only group that has survived since the ancient world, so cohesive and all, and then anything you bring to them they say, "that's not us, it's them, and that group is nobody."

This article claims in the last paragraph that the new Sanhedrin is a coalition of different groups. But get ready for- ba-bing! - "that Sanhedrin's not our Sanhedrin, that Sanhedrin is nobody" if you question a Jew on it.

Sanhedrin Launched In Tiberias
12:19 Jan 20, '05 / 10 Shevat 5765

A unique ceremony - probably only the 2nd of its kind in the past 1,600 years - took place in Tiberias today: The launching of a Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish-legal tribunal in the Land of Israel.

A unique ceremony - probably only the second of its kind in the past 1,600 years - is taking place in Tiberias today: The launching of a Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish-legal tribunal in the Land of Israel.

The Sanhedrin, a religious assembly that convened in one of the Holy Temple chambers in Jerusalem, comprised 71 sages and existed during the Tannaitic period, from several decades before the Common Era until roughly 425 C.E. Details of today's ceremony are still sketchy, but the organizers' announced their intention to convene 71 rabbis who have received special rabbinic ordination as specified by Maimonides.

An attempt to reconvene the Sanhedrin was made several centuries ago in Tzfat [I think they also had one reconstituted in the last century].The body in fact ordained such greats as Rabbi Yosef Karo, the author of the classic Jewish Law code Shulhan Arukh. However, the opposition of other leading rabbis soon forced the end of the endeavor.

One of the leaders of today's attempt to revive the Sanhedrin is Rabbi Yeshai Ba'avad of Beit El. He said that the 71 rabbis "from across the spectrum received the special ordination, in accordance with Maimonides' rulings, over the past several months." Rabbi Ba'avad explained that the membership of the new body is not permanent: "What is much more crucial is the establishment of this body. Those who are members of it today will not necessarily be its members tomorrow. But the goal is to have one rabbinic body in Jerusalem that will convene monthly and issue rulings on central issues. This is the need of the generation and of the hour."

Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, who heads the Temple institute in Jerusalem, is one of the participating rabbis. He told Arutz-7 today,
***"Whether this will be the actual Sanhedrin that we await, is a question of time - just like the establishment of the State; we rejoiced in it, but we are still awaiting something much more ideal. It's a process. Today's ceremony is really the continuation of the renewal of the Ordination process in Israel, which we marked several months ago. Our Talmudic Sages describe the ten stages of exile of the Sanhedrin from Jerusalem to other locations, until it ended in Tiberias - and this is the place where it was foretold that it would be renewed, and from here it will be relocated to Jerusalem."

***Rabbi Ariel said that the rabbis there included many from the entire spectrum:
"Hareidi, religious-Zionist, Sephardi, Ashkenazi, hassidi, and many others - such as Rabbi Yoel Schwartz, Rabbi Adin Shteinzaltz, and many others... We can't expect a great consensus; that's not how things work here. But sometimes that's how the process goes, from the bottom up."