I've noticed that many people, as they get older, change in relation to the thickness of their necks and the firmness of the facial muscles.

In particular, the neck seems to enlarge in diameter, and the face sags, perhaps most noticeably under the jaw. The jawline, which once was so definite, kind of melts and merges with the neck gradually.

At what age does this usually happen? Does anyone have data to report?

Jerry Abbott

I don't know about age, but obesity can speed up this process considerably. My father is an in-shape octogenarian, and he still has a prominent chin, but it is not as well-defined as it was when he was in his 40s.

As they say, 'before 40 your body takes care of you, after 40 you need to take care of it'. But then on the other hand, I see grade school kids who need to be taking care of their bodies, but generally speaking there is a certain change that happens after 40, which is also the time to give up that pack a day, that is if you don't want to be pullin the green oxygen tank, an ignominious way to exit earth fer sure.

I've noticed that many people, as they get older, change in relation to the thickness of their necks and the firmness of the facial muscles.

In particular, the neck seems to enlarge in diameter, and the face sags, perhaps most noticeably under the jaw. The jawline, which once was so definite, kind of melts and merges with the neck gradually.

At what age does this usually happen? Does anyone have data to report?

Jerry Abbott
My understanding is that this is caused by loss of elasticity of the skin, which is caused by cross-linking in the skin. This can be prevented and to some extent reversed with anti-oxidants. The most effective anti-oxidants for the skin that I know are vitamin E, PABA, and selenium, taken orally. PABA is a B-vitamin that used to be advertised as an important ingredient in sunscreens but this was discontinued because a small segment of the population is allergic to it.

I've noticed that many people, as they get older, change in relation to the thickness of their necks and the firmness of the facial muscles.

In particular, the neck seems to enlarge in diameter, and the face sags, perhaps most noticeably under the jaw. The jawline, which once was so definite, kind of melts and merges with the neck gradually.

At what age does this usually happen? Does anyone have data to report?

Jerry Abbott

Seems to be inevitable after about age 50. Probably a genetic factor too. For some it is worse than for others. Staying slender and active helps. Good nutrition can't hurt. Just grow a full beard, and ignore it.

Enkidu

...In particular, the neck seems to enlarge in diameter, and the face sags, perhaps most noticeably under the jaw. The jawline, which once was so definite, kind of melts and merges with the neck gradually.

At what age does this usually happen? Does anyone have data to report?


David Duke got a chin implant in his 30s or 40s, which I have been told by a GP (non-specialist who don't like the facelifters) is one of the methods you can keep yourself youthful-ish if this is the goal. The implant in the chin is supposed to do something about the skin nearby; keep it more taut I would imagine.

Then again I suspect there are side effects of some sort. Took them years to find out what the boob implants did to women and the lawsuits are still coming in.

Enkidu probably has the right idea here. Age is supposed to give you dignity and gravitas, and the gravitas part is true.

It's gravity, man. It pulls everything down. Women have great jokes about this, I even heard a few butt-hitting-the-floor jokes from my wife. And at 5 foot tall and 105, she ain't got much sag. Gravity effects her lot a less than me.

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Something seems to be in blacks that causes 80 year olds to look like 50 year olds and 50 year olds to look 30.

Something seems to be in blacks that causes 80 year olds to look like 50 year olds and 50 year olds to look 30.
Sun takes a toll on the skin of White people, whereas Blacks obviously have some immunity. They also have four times as many sweat glands, which probably helps to keep the skin moist.

Something seems to be in blacks that causes 80 year olds to look like 50 year olds and 50 year olds to look 30.Can you tell the difference between a 20 year old chimpanzee and a 30 year old chimpanzee? Same principle. Most animals (niggers are animals) don't show their age like a human.

David Duke got a chin implant in his 30s or 40s, which I have been told by a GP (non-specialist who don't like the facelifters) is one of the methods you can keep yourself youthful-ish if this is the goal. The implant in the chin is supposed to do something about the skin nearby; keep it more taut I would imagine.

I think David Duke got a chin implant because the chin that he had was weak, not to combat sagging skin.

Something seems to be in blacks that causes 80 year olds to look like 50 year olds and 50 year olds to look 30.

And something causes them to die before 50 lol. Other blacks. Seriously though if you're only talking about biology, they have really high blood pressure and a lot more heart attacks. Their circulatory systems aren't so good.

I've noticed that many people, as they get older, change in relation to the thickness of their necks and the firmness of the facial muscles.

Another thing about aging is that cartilage continues to grow as we age.
This is why old people look jewy (big noses and ears).