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blizzard
October 14th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Regardless of what you feel of them, at least they have the balls to come out in public and get doses of national exposure for their cause. This free media coverage for them is far more valuable than putting out 1,000,000 flyers in the middle of the night. And letting the taxpayers pay for it to boot.

Well done. If only all the rest of us who call ourselves "white nationalist" would have the zeal and enthusiasm of the NSM. I used to be a critic of the NSM but I'll admit, they've got something going here.

Good job.

Abzug Hoffman
October 14th, 2005, 04:24 PM
The last time Bill White got involved in something like this, an innocent man got his eye put out when some blacks attacked him.

krrpt
October 14th, 2005, 04:30 PM
Lovely.

Free media exposure for uniform fetish stereotypes. At best that sort of coverage distances the "fence sitters" from the cause and at worst it fuels the very fears that help terrorist organizations like the ADL fill their coffers.

I hear circus music.

Fritz Kuhn
October 14th, 2005, 04:58 PM
I hear circus music.

I hear yiddish. Bill White is the Abbie Hoffman of the "movement", preening for the cameras and making nonsensical proclamations. Like Hoffman, he understands that even a tiny group of people can command media attention if they make outrageous claims of imminent chaos. White has a jewish talent for public relations and self-promotion. Unfortunately, he also has a jewish talent for deception and deceit.

Screwface
October 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Lovely.

Free media exposure for uniform fetish stereotypes. At best that sort of coverage distances the "fence sitters" from the cause and at worst it fuels the very fears that help terrorist organizations like the ADL fill their coffers.

I hear circus music.
fuck fense sitters, if they know what this is all about and are still undecided they're fucking useless. Most people just haven't been properly exposed to our doctrine. Put your Swazi armband and get out their boy! NSM is taking it to the streets, I hope they stomp those commie twerps who are counter agitiating, fuck opp gay niggers.

Fritz Kuhn
October 14th, 2005, 05:30 PM
fuck fense sitters, if they know what this is all about and are still undecided they're fucking useless. Most people just haven't been properly exposed to our doctrine. Put your Swazi armband and get out their boy! NSM is taking it to the streets, I hope they stomp those commie twerps who are counter agitiating, fuck opp gay niggers.

There is nothing the jews want more than to portray White racialists as ranting, semi-literate costume fetishists. If a handful of Whites want to reenact a scene from the Blues Brothers on a sidewalk in Toledo, then go right ahead.

sacredblut
October 14th, 2005, 06:28 PM
If you want to be paramilitary and wear uniforms, this is what you do:


http://www.whitepatriotparty.com/millermarch16.JPG





This is what you do not do:

http://www.nsm88.com/photos/elizabeth/courthouse.jpg

Bill
October 14th, 2005, 07:02 PM
The NSM may not be perfect in everyones eyes, but I think they have a place in the battle against the Jew. They are a positive voice, IMHO. All the other races have groups who are a little more "vocal" & "in your face" why can't we, just because Abe Foxman doesn't like them?

The_Holy_White_Race
October 14th, 2005, 07:13 PM
These guys are not afraid to stand up, dress up, and fess up.

They walk through towns with swazis, proving that no one is going to touch them and that it's okay to come out and be seen.

Good work, guys. Keep it up.

Fritz Kuhn
October 14th, 2005, 07:21 PM
The NSM may not be perfect in everyones eyes, but I think they have a place in the battle against the Jew. They are a positive voice, IMHO. All the other races have groups who are a little more "vocal" & "in your face" why can't we, just because Abe Foxman doesn't like them?

Abe Foxman loves the NSM. They are caricatures of White racialism. Abe Foxman fears the White man in a suit and tie who stands up in a lecture hall, community meeting or political debate and condemn zionist influence, jewish pro-immigration policy and jewish media lies in a clear, coherent and rational voice. In addition, if the NSM is against jews, why hold this march in the nigger ghetto in rustbelt Ohio, 100 miles from the nearest jew? Why not do it in from the New York Times, JINSA headquarters or the local ADL offices?

Berserkr
October 14th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Coverage is coverage. And furthermore, they have more sack than 90% of the so called "White Nationalists" that make up this Movement. My hats off to 'em!

krrpt
October 14th, 2005, 07:36 PM
The NSM may not be perfect in everyones eyes, but I think they have a place in the battle against the Jew. They are a positive voice, IMHO. All the other races have groups who are a little more "vocal" & "in your face" why can't we, just because Abe Foxman doesn't like them?

It's not a matter of being perfect, it's a matter of not looking like clowns. For every NSM member out there stomping around in uniform looking like some sort of walking parody, it'll take ten people to undo the damage they do.

Good intentions - bad execution.

EDIT:

Anyone that thinks a strategy that recruits 1 'hardcore' type person while turning away 9 other people is preferable to a strategy that recruits 1 'hardcore' type person as well as 9 other people should have their head examined.

Bill
October 14th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Abe Foxman loves the NSM. They are caricatures of White racialism. Abe Foxman fears the White man in a suit and tie who stands up in a lecture hall, community meeting or political debate and condemn zionist influence, jewish pro-immigration policy and jewish media lies in a clear, coherent and rational voice. In addition, if the NSM is against jews, why hold this march in the nigger ghetto in rustbelt Ohio, 100 miles from the nearest jew? Why not do it in from the New York Times, JINSA headquarters or the local ADL offices?
Honest Abe can get some mileage out of them, but how much really? Any half way intelligent person knows the NSM is a fairly small group, & realistically, not much of a threat to Jews or anyone else. They do draw attention though.

Oh, & Toledo, I'm not sure why they are having the rally there, but 60 miles up I-75 in Metro-Detroit, there is a very large Jew infestation.

The_Holy_White_Race
October 14th, 2005, 08:12 PM
The NSM Movement helps us all by parading in uniform, because they are establishing the far edge of possibilities.

When others protest without the swazis, they are seen as "more mainstream" by comparison.

The trouble is, protests by white civil rights activists are almost nil.

We need to be in the streets every month with legal protests. But we aren't.

Instead, we are here.

:box:

blizzard
October 14th, 2005, 09:34 PM
When others protest without the swazis, they are seen as "more mainstream" by comparison.

I disagree somewhat. They are still branded as nazis. Roper's rallies are an example of that. No matter if you wear a uniform or show up in a suit or tie, the left wing zionist press is going to label you a nazi, bigot, racist, homophobe.



We need to be in the streets every month with legal protests. But we aren't.

Instead, we are here.

:box:

Great point!!!! 1,000,000 people in the Toledo area will know who is the NSM is now. How many people in Toledo know who VNN, White Revolution, or Stromfront is? Maybe a hundred or two. This forum and others like it are useful but they do preach to the choir. Which is fine but it doesn't do much for growth of ideas. This one march will gather more press coverage than a 1,000,000 flyers and 1,000,000 postings on message boards.

Another group I really respect is the Westboro Baptist Church out of Topeka ie www.godhatesfags.com Those people are out there almost EVERY DAY with street protest about sodomites.

sacredblut
October 14th, 2005, 09:47 PM
I disagree somewhat. They are still branded as nazis. Roper's rallies are an example of that. No matter if you wear a uniform or show up in a suit or tie, the left wing zionist press is going to label you a nazi, bigot, racist, homophobe.


Are American pro-White groups trying to reach the majority of white people in America?

If it is the majority of whites in America, what will have a better affect, someone in a suit and tie, like every professional and those in authority ware, or someone in a 1930s/1940s German uniform? Now ask yourself, who is in leadership position and who is not. Does Abe Foxman look like an Orthodox Rabbi? Chertoff?

If the target is not the majority of white people, but Zionists, then to anger them National Socialist uniforms work great.

You can have the best product in the world, go out there everyday trying to sell it, if consumers think it is worthless or are turned off by it, they don't buy it. It works the same for ideas.

Lucky Jack
October 14th, 2005, 09:49 PM
These guys are not afraid to stand up, dress up, and fess up.

They walk through towns with swazis, proving that no one is going to touch them and that it's okay to come out and be seen.

Good work, guys. Keep it up.

"Stand up, dress up, and fess up?" Jesus Frank, this is a Nazi rally not a gay pride parade.

Fags; what are ya gonna do? :rolleyes:

Whirlwind
October 15th, 2005, 06:26 AM
The NSM is putting feet in the street. Any wishing for things to be "just right" will never do anything. If you can't back them, the least you could do is not attack them from the rear. Impossible to make invisible men look bad.