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Antiochus Epiphanes
October 17th, 2005, 10:52 AM
from this website

http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/

Due to the Valerie Plame affair and the acts of George and the neocons the CIA has been unable to recruit spies. No one wants to be left twisting in the wind. The outing of Ms. Plame has done irreparable harm to US clandestine operations and caused the death of over 100 of our undercover operatives. Valerie Plame was an exceptional officer who even worked under non-official cover. In other words if you are caught we do not know who you are. Yet, she and her operatives were betrayed by George and the neocons simply because they wanted payback because her husband exposed these criminals for what they are and that the excuse for war WMD was a scam. He exposed the liar in chief. If Patrick Fitzgerald proceeds with the indictments we believe the Nigerian forgeries will prove to be the work of VP Dick Cheney and Lewis Libby. The special prosecutor should also indict Senate Intelligence Committee Pat Roberts (R-KN) who adamantly refused to investigate the forgery used to start a war. Americans what you have witnessed is betrayal and treason.
The future of the CIA looks bleak under the leadership of Director Porter Goss. Conflict between top CIA managers and Goss’ inner circle are now coming into the open. All the best people have resigned, been forced to resign or are taking early retirement. The neocons have turned the CIA into a shambles. Goss is about to consider punishing individuals for failures that took place prior to 9/11. That is over four years ago. This is, of course, to deflect blame from the neocons.
Mr. Bush has directed the agency to hire several thousand more analysts and officers over the next several years. It will take a lot more than new employees to bring credibility back to the agency. Only time will tell how much damage these idiots have inflicted on our country.

HighPlainsDrifter
February 17th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Thank you for this post on the Plame outing, Antiochus.

Alex Jones conducted tests, with an engineer and a policeman present, to show that #8 birdshot (Cheney's was said to be #7.5) from a 20-gauge load, would have to be at 15 feet to cause the depth and spread of the wounds, not 30 ft., let alone 90 ft.

This could be a deliberate exercise in Orwellian psychology. In 2001 it was, "Those skyscrapers were demolished with bombs, but you didn't see that, it was the fires in the wastepaper baskets. And by the way, if I hold up three fingers, but the state says four, you'd better believe it's four."

On the other hand, this could be an example of Carl Jung's principle that a person can be ambushed by his unconscious. Cheney was in command and bears responsibility for not shooting down the 9/11 Pentagon plane. Unconsciously thinking, "I should have shot" might have caused him to shoot at the wrong time.

HighPlainsDrifter
February 18th, 2006, 04:57 PM
Jones used a 28 gauge for the main tests, which is what Cheney is said to have had. I wish Jones had used #7.5 shot, as Cheney did, instead of #8, because although the diameter is 0.095" vs. 0.09", that would make some difference at 30 yards. Also Cheney really might have been using a high-tech load less deformable than lead, yet dense, perhaps tungsten steel.

It's difficult to estimate the width of scatter when only part of the pattern hits the target. Another way is to count the pellet wounds. With only a few pellets in Whittington's right cheek (not left as in the erroneous diagram published at first) the scatter might be consistent with almost 30 yards, especially with nondeformable #7.5 pellets and full choke.

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 21st, 2006, 10:23 AM
Mr Drifter:

These things are totally unrelated far as I'm concerned. Does anyone have something to say about the Plame affair waking up resistance to Jewry in the State Dept or CIA? I have something else from this iceberg I will post in a while. I am talking about verifiable power struggles inside government, not speculative type stuff.

Devere
February 21st, 2006, 10:35 AM
The future of the CIA looks bleak under the leadership of Director Porter Goss. Conflict between top CIA managers and Goss’ inner circle are now coming into the open. All the best people have resigned, been forced to resign or are taking early retirement. The neocons have turned the CIA into a shambles.Sounds as though the jews may have already snuffed this little uprising and are now about to re-staff their CIA with their lackeys.