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eNZedBlue
October 21st, 2005, 06:54 AM
http://www.enzedblue.com/Flag/Images/SvastikaFractalBlue512.gif

http://www.enzedblue.com/Flag/Images/SvastikaFractalRed512.gif

http://www.enzedblue.com/Flag/Images/SvastikaQuilt.gif

eNZedBlue
October 21st, 2005, 03:56 PM
My purpose in producing these fractal images was to create something containing the svastika motif that the average Joe Sixpack/Sally SoccerMom could look at and say "oooh, isn't that pretty?", thereby eroding in some small way their inculcated mental resistance to the symbol.

Removing the negative connotations associated with the svastika in our society will be no easy task, but the potency of the symbol as a political and spiritual insignia makes it too valuable to abandon. Also, the symbol is a part of Aryan cultural heritage (and many other cultures) and use of it should not be surrendered to taboo, as a matter of principle.

brutus
October 22nd, 2005, 03:37 AM
Nice designs!

:cheers:

eNZedBlue
October 29th, 2005, 07:09 AM
Nice designs!

:cheers:
Cheers mate. :cheers:

I just added another page to my site with a few more fractal designs (including some animated ones) using the svastika motif, and a few other patterns.

Eight Eyes Eight (http://www.enzedblue.com/EightEyesEight/EightEyesEight.html)

P.S. The page takes a while to load on dialup, because of a large background image.
P.P.S. If you are using IE then Stop.Right.Now. I hate having to make pages IE compatible! :mad:

Chain
October 29th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Yes, they look fine and enegaging to the eye. Can you make some more? Maybe in the sun's color, or with even another complex decorative grid pattern?

eNZedBlue
October 29th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Betsy Ross,

Thanks for your kind words.

Yes, they look fine and enegaging to the eye. Can you make some more? Maybe in the sun's color, or with even another complex decorative grid pattern?

I'm playing around with ways of getting the designs to spell out words and slogans/messages at the moment, but it's quite hard to get some of the letters in the alphabet to fit nicely into a grid. I'll be sure to post a link when they're done.

FYI, I'm not asserting any copyright or ownership over these images, so if anyone wants to modify/recolourise them or incorporate them into their own designs or graphics then feel free. :)

sgthartman
November 4th, 2005, 12:00 AM
I'm working with Poser. After reading about Mr. Sulu, I decided to make a pic called It's Only Logical. And then I remembered about Capt. Kirk, Mr. Spock, Uhura, and Rand. I can't remember, but I think Rand had something for Spock, and there was a sub-current for Uhura-Chekov. But in Poser, you can apply textures to stuff. I was wondering if I can use those fractal textures you made on clothes or other props (Perhaps a car's paint!).

eNZedBlue
November 4th, 2005, 04:56 PM
I'm working with Poser. After reading about Mr. Sulu, I decided to make a pic called It's Only Logical. And then I remembered about Capt. Kirk, Mr. Spock, Uhura, and Rand. I can't remember, but I think Rand had something for Spock, and there was a sub-current for Uhura-Chekov. But in Poser, you can apply textures to stuff. I was wondering if I can use those fractal textures you made on clothes or other props (Perhaps a car's paint!).Sure, go for it!

Could you send me a pic of the finished product? I'm curious to see how it turns out. :)

sgthartman
November 6th, 2005, 10:45 AM
A lot of Muslim Cloth is like that. Ricky Martinez found out when he was in a Palestinian picture. During the midievel times the wealthy europeons would wear clothes or have blankets made out of Muslim silks, and they had Allah Akbar or such written on it in stylized Arabic. Apparently even high-level roman catholic church leaders wore clothes like that, too.

sgthartman
November 6th, 2005, 10:49 AM
What program are you using to make your fractal designs? Are they tile-able? I was wondering on that since I dl the small jpg's. I think that in Poser that it will tile it over the whole surface applied to in the Material Room, but in post-work with Photoshop I'd have to turn it into a tile if say using the design as a background.

eNZedBlue
November 6th, 2005, 09:18 PM
What program are you using to make your fractal designs? Are they tile-able? I was wondering on that since I dl the small jpg's. I think that in Poser that it will tile it over the whole surface applied to in the Material Room, but in post-work with Photoshop I'd have to turn it into a tile if say using the design as a background.
I wrote a small C++ app to generate the swastika fractals as BMP files. I wrote some scripts in GIMP (www.gimp.org) to load in the BMPs and convert them into animated GIFs to make the fractal animations on my site.

The fractals are not tileable as is (because the swastika branches from a single point), but you could always just put it inside a square and tile that. If you want more info PM me.

Cheers,
eNZ

alouette
November 7th, 2005, 06:48 AM
it's very nice and original. I like the animations on your website too. Are your programs for making those pictures open sourced ?

I remember also someone gave me a program some time ago to preview a part of the DNA, and the shape was swastika like too (unfortunately I can't get this program again)

Antiochus Epiphanes
November 7th, 2005, 01:02 PM
folks may have noticed this design in "Greek key" which is a decorative design that was well known and popular for centuries in the west until WW2 and since then has been relegated to the ghetto of Greek restaurants.

I was at a nice old theatre built in the 1920s, recently restored to public use, and there was just this kind of swastika-based Greek key all around the interior door arches carved in marble.

eNZedBlue
November 7th, 2005, 05:08 PM
it's very nice and original. I like the animations on your website too. Are your programs for making those pictures open sourced ?Thanks for the compliment. I haven't release the source yet, because it's not in a tidy enough state to show in public :o It's only a couple of pages of source, if you are interested the PM me and I can mail it to you.

I remember also someone gave me a program some time ago to preview a part of the DNA, and the shape was swastika like too (unfortunately I can't get this program again)

That's interesting. It's amazing how often it crops up in nature and mathematics. I remember an article on VNN a few weeks ago about scientists who found out how to change the polarisation of light using a filter with millions of miniature swastika aperatures. Also, there are sections of the Mandelbrot set that form a swastika shape.
folks may have noticed this design in "Greek key" which is a decorative design that was well known and popular for centuries in the west until WW2 and since then has been relegated to the ghetto of Greek restaurants.

I was at a nice old theatre built in the 1920s, recently restored to public use, and there was just this kind of swastika-based Greek key all around the interior door arches carved in marble.I have never seen the "Greek key" design (I'll keep a look out for it next time I go to a Greek restaurant in Melbourne). There are plenty of Greek artworks from antiquity with the swastika design also, such as this vase showing Achilles and Ajax playing chess:

http://www.timelessmyths.com/classical/gallery/chess.jpg

(their cloaks are decorated with swastika patterns)

Antiochus Epiphanes
November 9th, 2005, 03:38 PM
also called "meander"

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/menuglossary/greekkey.htm

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/image/glossary/Greekkey.JPG

eNZedBlue
November 14th, 2005, 07:23 AM
I've added a new page with more fractal designs (based on Celtic motifs) to my site:

http://www.enzedblue.com/Eye2Eye2Eye/Eye2Eye2Eye.html

Also, I've updated my page on the swastika to include the Greek key:

http://www.enzedblue.com/Flag/Flag.html

Thanks for the information :cheers:

Antiochus Epiphanes
November 14th, 2005, 11:06 AM
I've added a new page with more fractal designs (based on Celtic motifs) to my site:

http://www.enzedblue.com/Eye2Eye2Eye/Eye2Eye2Eye.html

Also, I've updated my page on the swastika to include the Greek key:

http://www.enzedblue.com/Flag/Flag.html

Thanks for the information :cheers:

Damn, you have a treasure trove of stuff at that page! What a mandala huh?

eNZedBlue
January 2nd, 2006, 07:20 PM
Another fractal swastika design, and a triskelion:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/Stormfronter/swastika.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/Stormfronter/sevens.jpg

Aryan Lord
January 3rd, 2006, 01:21 PM
My purpose in producing these fractal images was to create something containing the svastika motif that the average Joe Sixpack/Sally SoccerMom could look at and say "oooh, isn't that pretty?", thereby eroding in some small way their inculcated mental resistance to the symbol.

Removing the negative connotations associated with the svastika in our society will be no easy task, but the potency of the symbol as a political and spiritual insignia makes it too valuable to abandon. Also, the symbol is a part of Aryan cultural heritage (and many other cultures) and use of it should not be surrendered to taboo, as a matter of principle.

Excellent,I am giving this 5 stars.Not only an attractive thread but an excellent way of tapping into the unconscious symbolism of our race to stir the masses. :cheers:

Matthaus Hetzenauer
January 3rd, 2006, 04:49 PM
also called "meander"

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/menuglossary/greekkey.htm

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/image/glossary/Greekkey.JPGSaaay...didn't I see a shot of that in the Jack Nicholson movie "The Shining"?...you know, when Shelly Duvall and her dopey kid take a stroll through The Outlook's maze gardens? ;)

eNZedBlue
January 6th, 2006, 03:14 AM
1280 * 1024 pixel swastika fractal image suitable for desktop wallpaper:

JPEG image (http://www.enzedblue.com/EightEyesEight/Images/swastikawallpaper.jpg)