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totenkopf
February 22nd, 2004, 09:59 PM
I need to ask a question. Is it better to purchase products from american companies that have them made in mexico and other third world countries or to buy from japanese companies that manufacture products here in the US? Is it better to put Americans to work or let the parent companies make a killing by shipping jobs out of the country. I get a chance to work on lots of vehicles and most of the Ford/GM ones have lots of Mexican made parts.Most are assembled in Mexico to save money yet they take pride in being American. I drive a Toyota that was manufactured in the USA...am I bad? Honda, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, and others manufacture vehicles in the USA. Yet the American companies farm them out to Mexico to save money. So much for baseball, hotdogs, apple pie, and Cheverolet.

Nick
February 23rd, 2004, 01:56 PM
I need to ask a question. Is it better to purchase products from american companies that have them made in mexico and other third world countries or to buy from japanese companies that manufacture products here in the US? Is it better to put Americans to work or let the parent companies make a killing by shipping jobs out of the country....

Other than hand tools and underwear I buy nothing manufactured in America when I can avoid it. I purchase European made products when possible, and if those aren't available I'll buy whatever is not American made. I NEVER shop at Wal-Mart or the big corporate chain outlets (Sav-On drug stores, etc.) or, unless it's an absolute emergency, spend money at any place of business that I can confirm or even suspect is owned by a jew.

There is an independent bulk warehouse food distributor (not Sam's Club) in my area that's owned by White 50 year old hippies and I get probably 95% of my food there.

I make it a point to avoid American made products whenever I can, whatever company label is on them. It probably costs me two or three times more than it needs to to shop this way but it's well worth the money and trouble as far as I'm concerned.

It would be almost impossible to completely eliminate American manufactured "goods" and American rat and jewish middlemen from one's life but by making a conscious effort you'll be surprised how many of them you CAN avoid. I always try to find sources for European products (I've made quite a few purchases by direct mail order from Europe and still do) and shop in local businesses that I know are owned by worthy and respectable Whites whenever I can.

As an aside, many White shops are willing to give cash discounts if you let them know you don't need a receipt, or they'll work out barter arrangements involving your product or labor in exchange for their product or labor. But you need to be low key when letting them know. Just use good sense and keep it discreet when you mention "maybe we could do each other a favor." Be sure you're talking to the owner though and not an employee or it's a waste of time.

Nick
February 23rd, 2004, 04:38 PM
I forgot to mention that I buy very few items that are "brand factory new." I buy second-hand but still functional or servicable items whenever I can. I haven't bought a "new" car since '82, but I've had three cars after that which I bought used. The repair bills on all three wouldn't total up to one quarter the cost of a "new" car today. When buying second hand items I don't have any problem buying American made products, that money is going into private hands and not supporting some American corporation. Household appliances I've picked up at garage sales for three or five bucks and most of them have lasted for years. Washing machines and dryers I've bought used for $50 or $75 bucks and have never had to put more than a hundred or so into any of them for service calls and they're right back in fine working condition.

Call me cheap if you like, but it's less about saving money than it is my preference for not buying "New & Improved!" garbage that's made even more cheaply than last year's model, as well as rejecting the Madison Ave. hype by not putting money into American corporate executive pockets. If someone is the type of person who is only satisfied buying new and shiny merchandise in its original box (the true "American Consumer" - dutifully purchasing the latest version of whatever it is even though the products get junkier and flimsier every year) then he won't be happy with used items. But that doesn't bother me in the least. I prefer to repair older and better quality products. It bothers me a lot less to fix things myself or give money to the local repairmen than it does giving the money to some American or global corporate conglomerate and NYC ad agency.

So I don't presume to tell anyone else what to buy but that's the way I approach it myself.

Steve B
February 25th, 2004, 09:51 PM
I forgot to mention that I buy very few items that are "brand factory new." I buy second-hand but still functional or servicable items whenever I can. I haven't bought a "new" car since '82, but I've had three cars after that which I bought used. The repair bills on all three wouldn't total up to one quarter the cost of a "new" car today. When buying second hand items I don't have any problem buying American made products, that money is going into private hands and not supporting some American corporation. Household appliances I've picked up at garage sales for three or five bucks and most of them have lasted for years. Washing machines and dryers I've bought used for $50 or $75 bucks and have never had to put more than a hundred or so into any of them for service calls and they're right back in fine working condition.

Call me cheap if you like, but it's less about saving money than it is my preference for not buying "New & Improved!" garbage that's made even more cheaply than last year's model, as well as rejecting the Madison Ave. hype by not putting money into American corporate executive pockets. If someone is the type of person who is only satisfied buying new and shiny merchandise in its original box (the true "American Consumer" - dutifully purchasing the latest version of whatever it is even though the products get junkier and flimsier every year) then he won't be happy with used items. But that doesn't bother me in the least. I prefer to repair older and better quality products. It bothers me a lot less to fix things myself or give money to the local repairmen than it does giving the money to some American or global corporate conglomerate and NYC ad agency.

So I don't presume to tell anyone else what to buy but that's the way I approach it myself.

Nick, thats about the best, well thought out post on this forum in weeks. Well done!

Nick
February 26th, 2004, 12:53 AM
Thanks Steve.

Cheers,
Nick