when you think about personal finance, what is a lot of money?

1,000-- nice to have, can't do much with it or live on it for long.

$100,000 -- good savings. Can't live on it for long. You can start a good small business for this much. It's decent seed money.

$1,000,000. One million. aint what it used to be. But this much can start a damn good small business, and some people could retire on it.

$10,000,000. A middle aged person could retire on this and have plenty of money to give to their kids and also keep themselves busy with in retirement doing something constructive, like starting a charity or a few, or some small business ideas for fun.

$100,000,000. One Hundred Million. With that kind of budget, we could start several potent organizations that could advance the White cause. A few think tanks, a PAC, a party, a whole range of small to medium media and other business outfits. That much devoted to the White cause, could ensure the survival of our race.

Right now the survival of White identity as such is running on spit and a shoestring. $100 million could transform this jalopy into a Formula one racer.

There's rich Jews out there who've given that much for their race. Think of Edgar Bronfman. For every Edgar Bronfman, there's at least one White man at least as rich and probably more. All we need is one of these whales-- just one-- and we could leverage the whole "White Nationalist movement" into something awesomely effective.

One investor. One White "social entrepreneur" venture capitalist. Maybe one rich White man like Ted Turner, who knows the power of Jews in finance and media up close and personal. The Jew's worst nightmare-- the White race's hope?

Or maybe one of you youngsters out there is the next White Bill Gates. The next White billionaire who ten or twenty years hence will help elevate his racial advocates to the level where we can compete. Think about that boys. Put your playthings aside and start figuring out how you're going to make your fortunes. I say it can be done. Believe it and make it happen!

One investor. One White "social entrepreneur" venture capitalist. Maybe one rich White man like Ted Turner, who knows the power of Jews in finance and media up close and personal. The Jew's worst nightmare-- the White race's hope?
The name Henry Ford comes to mind. Oh well!

Where are our patriotic billionaires? They can't all be cowards. What grounds does a billionaire have for being politically timid anyway? His family is taken care of. He won't lose his job. What gives? I don't understand it.

Even if they did have WN beliefs, they know very well they would be demonized, they & their families threatened and attacked, and would stand to lose everything. It's a frightening prospect even for someone who has the wearwithall to amass such a fortune.

Even if they did have WN beliefs, they know very well they would be demonized, they & their families threatened and attacked, and would stand to lose everything. It's a frightening prospect even for someone who has the wearwithall to amass such a fortune.

pfft. they put a thousand bucks in their pocket, walk down to the US post office, buy a postal money order, don't fill out the remitter info, and send it off in the mail with no return address.

who's going to know?

I know you're out there. A rich White man who cares about the future for his children and grandchildren sharing our same uniform-- our White skin.

They do that once a month, you'd be able to start building things up muy pronto.

You get the idea?

If they absolutely must give feed back, can be easily done by snail mail the same way.

Ever heard of Hewlett and Packard? Packard ran a big nonprofit for years, out of one drawer in his desk. The same outfit today that's handing out millions here and there. A guy like that could make it happen at zero personal risk.

What you propose could probably be done with ease and little risk. I am not at all saying that no one should do it. I was answering the question, "Why would a billionaire not do anything?" Or "Why be politically timid?" - the repercussions of getting caught! Anyone knows what would happen if they were caught somehow. You brought up Edgar Bronfman. He has put up quite a lot of money and is quite an activist for Jewish causes. There are many others like him. They are in a very different position. I mentioned a white man, Henry Ford, who did effectively the same thing as Bronfman, what you propose to do. He put a lot of money and effort into educating whites about a serious problem to our future. This was back in the 1920's when America was what, 98% white? Look what happened! He apologized for what he'd done. Look at his Ford Foundation now.

Today there are far fewer whites by proportion, we have less control, whites are an atomized mass that thinks about self and immediate family, and America's governed by political correctness to an unprecedented level. This is the why. It's the fear of getting caught, even if unrealistic, and a sense of disconnectedness. That and the possibility that if you look at the list of the billionaires, or say the top 10% of the super rich, you will find no one who has any sense of racial loyalty.

What you propose could probably be done with ease and little risk. I am not at all saying that no one should do it. I was answering the question, "Why would a billionaire not do anything?" Or "Why be politically timid?" - the repercussions of getting caught! Anyone knows what would happen if they were caught somehow. You brought up Edgar Bronfman. He has put up quite a lot of money and is quite an activist for Jewish causes. There are many others like him. They are in a very different position. I mentioned a white man, Henry Ford, who did effectively the same thing as Bronfman, what you propose to do. He put a lot of money and effort into educating whites about a serious problem to our future. This was back in the 1920's when America was what, 98% white? Look what happened! He apologized for what he'd done. Look at his Ford Foundation now.

Today there are far fewer whites by proportion, we have less control, whites are an atomized mass that thinks about self and immediate family, and America's governed by political correctness to an unprecedented level. This is the why. It's the fear of getting caught, even if unrealistic, and a sense of disconnectedness. That and the possibility that if you look at the list of the billionaires, or say the top 10% of the super rich, you will find no one who has any sense of racial loyalty.

Look, you dont get to be a "BILLIONAIRE" by being a pussy. These guys are extremely powerful. I'm not going to carry on about it, but I think the difference between Edgar Bronfman and your typical White billionaire-- is that Edgar Bronfman has a good sense of the importance of his tribe and a sense of personal responsibility to it. It's the Jew tribe, so their gain is our loss; and I'm not extolling Bronfman-- but in a way, yes, I admire the bastard. When there is one single White billionaire out there doing the same thing for Whites or the same thing, let's say, if he was a Swede, for real Swedes-- then I will change my idea, that all White billionaires are self sacks of shit.

Prove me wrong, White Billionaire!~

Even if they did have WN beliefs, they know very well they would be demonized, they & their families threatened and attacked, and would stand to lose everything. It's a frightening prospect even for someone who has the wearwithall to amass such a fortune.

How can a billionaire go broke if he exercises the minimum of common sense and caution? All he has to do is throw 5 million in a numbered Swiss account and his family is assured an income, not to mention paid in full real estate, and a host of other guanteed investments.

How can a billionaire go broke if he exercises the minimum of common sense and caution? All he has to do is throw 5 million in a numbered Swiss account and his family is assured an income, not to mention paid in full real estate, and a host of other guanteed investments.
OK, I don't know about any billionaire going broke. That's unlikely to happen under any circumstance. What I'm addressing is what is going on in such a fella's mind that would prevent him from doing something even if it seems to be common sensical and extremely cautious.

AE's correct in that no one get's that rich by being a pussy. In fact the thing that drives them most is a fucking massive ego. It may be this more than anything that would bring about fear in such an individual. Not so much going broke but losing face. Social standing/prestige is way up on the list for these guys. You can draw up any number of methods of concealment and guarantees of retaining wealth, but nothing is infallible. If there were any breach of his anonymity (not an impossibility), he'd face a firestorm of defamation from media & peers, threats to family, boycotts, etc. It may not seem logical to you, but you're sitting in a room dealing with this in a completely abstract manner. For the rich guy you're talking about there's nothing abstract about it. There would be serious consequences if he were found out. That's the only thing he'd be thinking about. That's what I think would hold 'em back.

I think it would be great if one or more of them would step up to the plate, so I'm not advocating for anything. Just speculating about the possible psychological deterrent. Personally, I think the most likely reason no one at that economic level has helped out (that I know of) is because I've seen no indication whatsoever of any racial consciousness in any of them. But who knows?

I agree about the psychological deterrent, just not the economic one. The thing for our hypothetical billionaire to do is build a social network of like-minded white rich bastards and go a-Viking.

Take a look at your Jap billionaires, and you will find more than one who is a big fan of Yamato Tamashii.

No such White men. There was a rumour the Ikea founder was some kind of Quisling man, but he's steered clear for over three decades from any nationalist anything.

Jews have more tribal-activist high-attainers per tribal member than any other tribe--- would be my guess..... and also, I think that would be a big factor in why they are doing so well.

And we so poorly.

Or last generation of rich supporters were the 20s. Ford, Madison Grant. The declining fortunes of Yankees, and declining numbers, and massive co-option of the East coast establishment, has us totally fucked.

After handing out TAAs in Virginia, if I had to pick a second location, it would be NJ, Mass, and other locations in New England. Viriginia is the heart of the south, and New England the heart of the North.

There are plenty of old Yankees up north, all mad at the Jew takeover. But they are impotent to dislodge the kikezim. The old families of the USA, are all on board with the Jew world order. Give me one scion of one of the families that were made rich on American bonds during the war of Independence-- yes there are such families, they still exist, they still know who they are, and they are still rich-- give me one decent scion of such a family worth of his name and I will change my mind.

For now, the White Billionaires/ super rich-- they're all cunts.

The thing for our hypothetical billionaire to do is build a social network of like-minded white rich bastards and go a-Viking.
That would indeed be the way to do it. Coalitions are the best method of attaining social change. Look at 20th Century Jewish activity.

No such White men. There was a rumour the Ikea founder was some kind of Quisling man, but he's steered clear for over three decades from any nationalist anything.
Right, kinda the fear of association I am referring to.

Jews have more tribal-activist high-attainers per tribal member than any other tribe--- would be my guess..... and also, I think that would be a big factor in why they are doing so well.
No doubt about it. They are highly intelligent, talented, aggressive, and a bit paranoid. This, combined with their ethnic consciousness and networking ablility, is what makes them so formidable.

For now, the White Billionaires/ super rich-- they're all cunts.
Indeed.

I agree about the psychological deterrent, just not the economic one. The thing for our hypothetical billionaire to do is build a social network of like-minded white rich bastards and go a-Viking.

Anybody know the limit on US postal money orders?

Do they have a limit?

Our billionaire can just walk in, plop down the cash, walk out. Nobody knows who the MO is made out to. Nobody knows who he hand-writes the snail mail address on the envelope. Just like that, in a half hour's time, our billionaire has made a huge difference that we lesser mortals have to bleed and sweat and work our asses off for.

Hey-- if the billionaire doesnt do it, he'll get whatever the Jews have coming for him one way or another. I imagine there was many an Englishmen who's fortune was taken down a few notches when Jew George Soros kicked the legs out from under the pound sterling.

b. Without exception, no customer may buy money orders on any 1 day whose
total value exceeds $10,000. This daily limit applies regardless of the number
of visits made by a customer to one or more postal facilities.

I was going to guess this number.

A Billion would be nice. I could buy CBS, and tell the jews, the all seeing eye is watching you, jew boy.

The jews, would be tossed out of the news room, and it would be filled, by smart White Men.

The news would consist of stories, how the jews have screwed every ethnic group in existence, that ought to endear them to niggers, and mexicoons.

I would call for a ban on jew owned busnisses, and tell them to leave. They can go back to Israel, and they better damn well return our military toys, or they will be vaporized. We will also sieze their assets, if they don't leave in 48 hrs.

You will have to surrender these military toys, to the Palastinians.

That ought to be billion well spent.

I can dream can't I?

Antiochus, don't underestimate the intelligence of someone who's made a billion dollars, and how powerful they are. If a billionaire white nationalist wanted to give you some money, you'd probably be kidnapped by ten commandos, flown on a private jet to a hollowed out desert island, and given an assortment of currencies and bearer-type investments.

So, I've noticed Bill White has a label of "unstable coward", which I assume is not self-descriptive. I also remember an article that claimed he was a millionaire. Why doesn't he finance some stuff? What was the great falling out about between him and this whole crowd? Is it enough that he should not be trusted at all?

[OK, I don't know about any billionaire going broke. That's unlikely to happen under any circumstance. What I'm addressing is what is going on in such a fella's mind that would prevent him from doing something even if it seems to be common sensical and extremely cautious.

AE's correct in that no one get's that rich by being a pussy. In fact the thing that drives them most is a fucking massive ego. It may be this more than anything that would bring about fear in such an individual. Not so much going broke but losing face. Social standing/prestige is way up on the list for these guys. You can draw up any number of methods of concealment and guarantees of retaining wealth, but nothing is infallible. If there were any breach of his anonymity (not an impossibility), he'd face a firestorm of defamation from media & peers, threats to family, boycotts, etc. It may not seem logical to you, but you're sitting in a room dealing with this in a completely abstract manner. For the rich guy you're talking about there's nothing abstract about it. There would be serious consequences if he were found out. That's the only thing he'd be thinking about. That's what I think would hold 'em back.

I think it would be great if one or more of them would step up to the plate, so I'm not advocating for anything. Just speculating about the possible psychological deterrent. Personally, I think the most likely reason no one at that economic level has helped out (that I know of) is because I've seen no indication whatsoever of any racial consciousness in any of them. But who knows?


My thinking is that the Jews have already many years ago considered these possibilities, certainly after Ford, and they have taken measures to minimize/avoid situations where these super rich guys could/would help us. There's few enough billionnaires, or even folks with $100 Million, that the Jews probably send an emissary to each up and coming rich guy. Perhaps the jew emissary enters into a significant contract with the rich guy's company and then later becomes golfing buddies. Jew feels out rich guy's politics and thoughts on jews, the White race, etc. If there are any concerns, the Jew makes sure rich guy has lots of good and helpful contacts with Jews, so as to incorrectly color his opinion of them. If the subtle approach doesn't work, after a time, Jew switches from velvet glove to iron fist, horse head in the bed, and so forth, just to show arrogant, self-assured rich guy that he CAN be gotten to, despite security, etc. Maybe jew even makes it clear to rich guy that he can't even fully trust his security detail, that the Jews can get to them. Employees today are, after all, mostly mercenaries. After all, Jews supply every congressman with a free Israeli intern, maybe similar things are done with rich guys. Maybe some Jewess gets rich guy into compromising position, with embarrassing and humiliating photo evidence, like they tried to do to Clinton, with Lewinski. There's so many different angles these jews could work, I can't even think of them all. I always wondered if something like this isn't what went on with "Jimmy Teuton" (I'm purposefully not using his real name and would urge others not to in reply to this.) The Goy Genius wrote a great essay ridiculing Rep. James Moran for his lukewarm backing down after making accurate assessments about jews. I would never have pegged him for somebody to back down.

[My thinking is that the Jews have already many years ago considered these possibilities, certainly after Ford, and they have taken measures to minimize/avoid situations where these super rich guys could/would help us. There's few enough billionnaires, or even folks with $100 Million, that the Jews probably send an emissary to each up and coming rich guy. Perhaps the jew emissary enters into a significant contract with the rich guy's company and then later becomes golfing buddies. Jew feels out rich guy's politics and thoughts on jews, the White race, etc. If there are any concerns, the Jew makes sure rich guy has lots of good and helpful contacts with Jews, so as to incorrectly color his opinion of them. If the subtle approach doesn't work, after a time, Jew switches from velvet glove to iron fist, horse head in the bed, and so forth, just to show arrogant, self-assured rich guy that he CAN be gotten to, despite security, etc. Maybe jew even makes it clear to rich guy that he can't even fully trust his security detail, that the Jews can get to them. Employees today are, after all, mostly mercenaries. After all, Jews supply every congressman with a free Israeli intern, maybe similar things are done with rich guys. Maybe some Jewess gets rich guy into compromising position, with embarrassing and humiliating photo evidence, like they tried to do to Clinton, with Lewinski. There's so many different angles these jews could work, I can't even think of them all. I always wondered if something like this isn't what went on with "Jimmy Teuton" (I'm purposefully not using his real name and would urge others not to in reply to this.) The Goy Genius wrote a great essay ridiculing Rep. James Moran for his lukewarm backing down after making accurate assessments about jews. I would never have pegged him for somebody to back down.

Right, I think the above is not only entirely plausible, it's something we should expect from such a wily opponent. It seems logical that the Jew would be manning the money passes, in fact, isn't it interesting how Donald Trump's right hand man on his show, The Apprentice, is George the Jew!

And while I don't view Ross Perot as a White Nationalist, it's my contention that before his antics, his polling was so good and he was energizing the electorate in such a way, that it's entirely possible he could have become POTUS. Then all the sudden he gets "pressure" and he fucks it all up, more or less. Bush Sr. was too much of an incompetent to take out Perot, Clinton a nonfactor, no he was gotten to by the Jew establishment and precisely because he was too much of a wildcard, uncontrollable in the Oval Office, and a populist victory could have done enormous damage at that time to the globalist Jew agenda. He probably had some serious dirty laundry, but I think if that "pressure" didn't deter him, they'd have pulled a JFK on him.

Let's not kid ourselves, our challenge today is Herculean, our enemy will not concede to us the same avenues our forebears so foolishly ceded to them, I think we should expect no help from the White rich, in fact, they might be regarded as the enemy and firmly in the Jew camp as their "financial" interests are increasingly identical.

We're not looking for guys like Perot to run with the flag. Somebody like that will get the Robert Maxwell treatment. Remember him, the Jew media magnate that majorly helped Israel, then they paid him back by murdering him? Ie, if you are a whale, if you are worth it, and you hit their radar screen, it's not smears that you really have to worry about.

http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/05/40862.php?l=en
Robert Maxwell Peddles the Mossad-Reconstructed ENHANCED PROMIS by Gordon Thomas • Friday May 24, 2002 at 03:53 PM
In a piece excerpted from his new book, Seeds of Fire, Gordon Thomas of Ireland chronicles how British media magnate Robert Maxwell, a Mossad asset, peddled an Israeli version of Enhanced PROMIS computer software worldwide--to enhance Israeli spying on the customers.
ROBERT MAXWELL PEDDLES THE MOSSAD-RECONSTRUCTED ENHANCED PROMIS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD ~~~ MAXWELL LEAKS PROMIS TRAP DOOR TECHNOLOGY -- CHINA BUYS PROMIS AND OBTAINS LOS ALAMOS SECRETS *From Seeds of Fire: China and the Story Behind the Attack on America, by Gordon Thomas (Dandelion Books)
There was no doubting Maxwell was a brilliant marketer of Enhanced Promis or, as far as Mossad was concerned, of the effectiveness of the system. The service had been the first to obtain the program and it had been a valuable tool in its campaign against the Intifada. ...A further search by Enhanced Promis of the local PLO computers also showed the bomber had switched flights at the last moment.
It did not save him. He was killed by a car bomb on the way to Beirut airport. Shortly afterwards, in Rome, the Intifada commander was killed in a hit-and-run accident.
Soon other examples would create complete satisfaction of the efficiency of Enhanced Promis as a powerful weapon with which Mossad could fight terrorism.
In the months which followed, Maxwell continued to sell the version that Rafi Eitan’s programmers had reconstructed around the world. Using the same pitch—“what I have is better and cheaper than anything else on the market”—Maxwell persuaded the South African regime to purchase the software to track black revolutionary groups. A planned strike by black miners protesting apartheid was stopped when the software was used to track down the strike leaders through their required identity passes. All were incarcerated without trial.
In Guatemala the system was sold after Maxwell had personally demonstrated how it could track all opponents of the regime. Using the software, some 20,000 government opponents were rounded up. They were either killed or joined the ranks of “the disappeared.”
But let's not be paranoid. The Jews are not omniscient. All I'm talking about, is a big money man walking down to the po box one day with a wad of cash in his pocket, buying a blank money order, and mailing it to POB 101 Kirksville, MO 63501. Who's going to know? Even somebody following him will not see who the mail item is sent to, and it's a cash only transaction so nobody else will know, not the mailman nor the recipient. That's all it takes to put VNN on the road to bigger and better things. And our man Alex has proven track record for faithful and competent opposition to Jewry. Any Gentile heroes want to hit back at the Jew, there's a simple, legal, and safe way to do it.

........, I think we should expect no help from the White rich, in fact, they might be regarded as the enemy and firmly in the Jew camp as their "financial" interests are increasingly identical.

What is rich? That is the question that begins this thread. 100 million and over, might as well be Jews. The bubble is between 1 M and 10-- that's where we can pick up supporters. Past 10 M people are too busy to dick around on the internet reading news sites.

Plus, 1 to 10 M people are still working at jobs, because they have to, still struggle with taxes, still facing the uphill battle Jews have laid before us all. 1 to 10 M net assets is NOT rich. THEY had best start helping row the boat, because THEY will be rudely awakened as the "rising tide of color" swamps even their boats. Just like those Whites we saw in NOLA who were patrolling their fancy, antebellum neighborhoods with guns-- and then the "National Guard" showed up to confiscate their guns in open violtion of state and federal law, leaving them defenceless against marauding nigger gangs. THAT is the problem more of these 1 to 10 M "richy riches" will have to face and they will NOT succeed without WHite solidarity any more than we will. To some extent we are in this together. "Your skin is your uniform."

What is rich? That is the question that begins this thread. 100 million and over, might as well be Jews. The bubble is between 1 M and 10-- that's where we can pick up supporters. Past 10 M people are too busy to dick around on the internet reading news sites.

Plus, 1 to 10 M people are still working at jobs, because they have to, still struggle with taxes, still facing the uphill battle Jews have laid before us all. 1 to 10 M net assets is NOT rich. THEY had best start helping row the boat, because THEY will be rudely awakened as the "rising tide of color" swamps even their boats. Just like those Whites we saw in NOLA who were patrolling their fancy, antebellum neighborhoods with guns-- and then the "National Guard" showed up to confiscate their guns in open violtion of state and federal law, leaving them defenceless against marauding nigger gangs. THAT is the problem more of these 1 to 10 M "richy riches" will have to face and they will NOT succeed without WHite solidarity any more than we will. To some extent we are in this together. "Your skin is your uniform."

Interesting points, but it is somewhat subjective, for practical purposes I think folks with $1-$10 million in net assets I would categorize as "the comfortable class" today.

In any event, while objectively true, "your skin is your uniform," unfortunately I fear that too many if not almost all of the "comfortable class" will not support anything that rocks the boat. That is until the house of cards comes tumbling down, for some that happened in NOLA, they simply seem unwilling to get into the boat and start rowing. That said, we can hold out hope that as things continue to deteriorate perhaps more of them will gravitate to our cause, and embrace White solidarity. At the same time, I don't lay the blame entirely on our White folk. WN itself, and many a movement "leader" have not done a satisfactory job appealing to the very people we need most, and that I believe can be attributed to the subculture circus that has come to dominate WNism. It's imo a double edged knife, our folk have been unforgiveably negligent, and our movement has done little to appeal to our folk or offer them anything consequential. We certainly need to bridge the gap, and soon, because it's obvious now if it wasn't before, we don't have much time left. In every category things have gotten substantially worse with no end in sight, and given recent observations like Stan Sikorski's on Kingston's demographics I wonder if the demographic reality on the ground isn't actually much worse than we think.

On the real fat cats, like Perot, I concur, had he persisted and actually decided to run a serious campaign, I think he would have been Robert Maxwelled. The Jew mo is pretty clear, what they can't intimidate they bribe, what can't be bought they eliminate with extreme prejudice. History has shown us that mo to be highly effective.

There have been a few wealth racialists. Carl Story and Vincent Bertollini gave money to Aryan Nations.

http://www.adl.org/tycoons/intro.asp

Here is another less well known man, who only came out of the closet after his death:

"Richard J. Cotter Jr. was a tall, distinguished-looking man from the upper tier of Boston society. The son of a well-known Boston lawyer, he was a graduate of Harvard University and Harvard Law School, where he befriended John F. Kennedy.

He was an avid equestrian. Indeed, he owned dozens of expensive, American Saddlebred show horses. By all accounts, he led a normal life. But when the millionaire from Duxbury died in April 1999, at age 81, another side of his life emerged.

Only then did his old friend, Donald O. Smith, who is executor of his $6 million estate, learn of Mr. Cotter's unlikely connections to some of the most prominent figures of the right-wing fringe, and that he had left nearly one-sixth of his estate to neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers and white supremacists."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/neonazis/neonazis28.html

Why don't we just come up with a list of a thouasnd or so millionaires and mail them each a copy of the TAA?

or better yet-- a specially designed flyer targeted for their demographic?

A post-card even?