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Hadding
February 28th, 2004, 04:04 PM
Belgium's most hated man, convicted paedophile Marc Dutroux, has been locked up for the last six years without trial. Andrew Osborn wonders why it is taking so long for justice to be done.
He stands accused of committing the vilest of crimes - of raping, torturing and murdering young girls as young as eight for his own sexual gratification. And yet Marc Dutroux, already a convicted paedophile, has still not been brought to justice.
Dutroux, Belgium's public enemy number one without equal, has been incarcerated since 1996 and yet still there is no trial date. It might be this year it might be next - who can say, officials shrug.
His alleged crimes brought 350,000 people onto the streets of Brussels in 1996, the largest public march of its kind in this small country's history and yet still nothing has been done.
The entire criminal justice and police system have been shaken up and reformed in the wake of revelations about the hideously incompetent way in which his case has been handled and yet still there is no movement.
The Dutroux affair is a scar on Belgium's national conscience which grows deeper each year. There is no other single event, bar the second world war, which has had such a traumatic and damaging effect to the country's self-image. So why the delay?
The charge sheet against Dutroux, formerly an electrician, could not be more serious. He is said to have kidnapped and abused six girls aged between eight and 19 and killed four of them. He is also alleged to have murdered an accomplice.
But what is worse for many is the sadism and sheer cruelty which appears to have characterised his captives' last days. Two of his alleged victims - Melissa Russo and Julie Lejeune, both eight - were sexually abused and tortured in makeshift dungeons in metal cages in his basement. Their bodies were later found in his back garden in southern Belgium. They had starved to death while Dutroux did a short stint in jail for theft.
Two other girls - An Marchal, 17 and Eefje Lambrecks, 19 - also met their end in his custody and their decomposed corpses were discovered in another of his houses. Laetitia Delhez, who was then 14 and is now a supermarket checkout girl, and Sabine Dardenne, managed to escape with their lives but will never be the same again.
In a recent interview Ms Delhez said she felt abandoned by the authorities and deprived of support and even basic information about the case against her former captor. But still the authorities dither.
Meanwhile Dutroux, who inhabits cell 801 in Arlon prison and is watched night and day, seems to be sneering at his victims. This week he was, not for the first time, front-page news and for all the wrong reasons.
A Belgian senator connived with a Flemish journalist to give Dutroux airtime and the reporter, disguised as the politician's chauffeur, smuggled himself into his cell and conducted an interview.
The senator is in hot water, the journalist may lose his job and the general public at large is once again traumatised by events which took place six or even seven years ago. Plus ça change.
Dutroux thrives on controversy but the fiasco did serve one useful purpose - it reminded people, if they needed it, that justice has yet to be done. It also exposed serious shortcomings in security for a man who is supposed to be Belgium's most dangerous convict and many politicians are calling for the head of the country's justice minister.
But the Dutroux case is littered with bungling and unacceptable incompetence, so what difference will one more cock-up make? He was known to the police for years before he was finally arrested in 1996. He had been released from prison in 1991 after serving three-and-a-half years of a 13-year sentence for multiple child rape.
When he was set free he was given a GBP 1,400 a month invalid's pension. Unbelievably, police also searched his house when Julie and Melissa were cowering in cages in his basement but failed to find them. They heard screaming but chose to believe Dutroux, who told them it must have been children playing outside.
And, to add insult to injury, Dutroux briefly escaped in 1998 making a mockery of the police and prompting a wave of government resignations. Paradoxically he has also come close to being released because of the length of time it has taken to mount a case against him, a delay which his lawyers argued breached the European convention on human rights.
The authorities were only able to circumvent this problem by convicting him for his abortive escape bid. And the closest he has come to a court case is one he mounted himself - to protest against his conditions in prison. So what an earth, you may well ask, is going on?
What is more shocking than the offenses of child-rape and child-murder is the scandalous way Belgian authorities are handling it.
http://www.sexcriminals.com/news-archive/info-11881.html
The victims' parents think they have an answer - a cover-up and many Belgians agree with them. Dutroux was not acting alone, they say, but was part of a wider paedophile ring which included policemen and senior members of the establishment. Why else would there be such a delay in going to trial?
This week Dutroux himself said as much although possibly for his own reasons. "A network with all kinds of criminal activities really does exist," he told VTM, a Flemish TV station. "But the authorities don't want to look into it." And there is no doubting that things do look odd.
The original investigating magistrate was dismissed after sharing a meal with one of the victim's families and several prosecutors, policemen and crucial witness have committed suicide. Important evidence has also disappeared.
So maybe Dutroux is being protected from on high. What other explanation can there be for such a disgraceful chain of events? But one thing is certain - the entire credibility of the current reformist government of Guy Verhofstadt and Belgium's very reputation as a normal civilised country is on the line. Further delay is unacceptable.
FranzJoseph
February 28th, 2004, 04:31 PM
This article should not be read before lunch, period.
But it reminded me of another old rumor I have asked about and perhaps someone here knows of it.
The old rumor is that the identity of Jack the Ripper was well known in Britain among jail-keepers because he was in their kind care for most of his life. But his identity was kept secret for a variety of reasons, the most persistent of the reasons being he was either (1) an aristocrat, (b) Jewish, or (c) both.
Anyone having read anything to substantiate this rumor? I'm curious.
In any case, Belgium would have taken care of this problem with a length of rope long ago had this occurred anytime before the modern era, and if he were being "protected from on high" the government would have been overthrown in a bloody but well-deserved revolution.
Kind Lampshade Maker
February 29th, 2004, 12:08 PM
Belgium's most hated man, .................the line. Further delay is unacceptable.
The cover-up in this case is common knowledge, here in Europe. What boggles my mind is why this key witness, Marc Doutroux is still alive and not the victim of another mysterious death. Perhaps he’s kept alive in order to make the public think that there are no cover-ups otherwise Dutroux would have been long dead?
Another fact not mentioned: The Belgian court overruled a proposal by one of Dutroux’s defense attourneys which presented the theory of multiple suspects in these murders. I have sent a scanned copy of this article in German to Alex Linder some time ago, through e-mail.
In any case this pedarast ring stinks all the way up to members of Brussel’s government and into the House of Royalty!
Does anybody recall the Belgian government’s protesting Austria’s Jörg Haider’s rise to power? Jörg Haider countered by stating, “Belgium is a hot-bed of corruption and pedarast activity in high places”. How true.
These hoods have everything to fear from the takeover of power by the Vlaams Blok. I hope they are attaching their cyanide capsuls under their lapels for that special day.
Marc Dutroux is the one culprit who’s at the bottom of this Totem Pole, thus of least importance compared to all the others. I would deal with him in the least severity, in this syndicate
Kind Lampshade Maker
March 3rd, 2004, 08:43 PM
The cover-up in this case is ....................... in this syndicate
Stephane Goux is the Judge over this case who is trying to cover up elite involvement. This judge should be most severely punished for this. I hope to see him at the race trials.
Marc Dutroux is only a fall guy.
Well Hadding. What do you have to say to this?
combatfrançais
March 4th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Kind Lampshade Maker,
I live in Belgium. Of course since 9 years I hearded about the Dutroux affair that hurts deeply all the belgian people. Belgian people hate the police and justice's perverse junk much more than Marc Dutroux who can benefit of a nice comfortable treatment in jail as his other accomplices.
I would like to add that the first judge of this case, Martine Doutrew, was also very guilty of being incompetent and irresponsable: she ordered many unless searches though since 1993 Dutroux was already well knows as a sex criminal.
I thoroughly disagree with your statement "Marc Dutroux is only a fall guy", please have some human respect and compassion for the parents of the died victims and for the still alive girls so deeply hurted by Marc Dutroux and his accomplices. That perverse monster is responsable for the horrors he made himself. Even the Dutroux's attorney recognizes his perverse responsability. Dutroux can't be even said a human "guy" that's also the opinion of the Dutroux's mother who said that he is even not human.
He had the perversity to accuse his mother of having incest with him. He tries so hard to reduce his responsability and to find so many "psychological" excuses to show him as the innocent victim hurted by the unjust society and as the tool of an other higher perverse boss. Indeed there are many material proves that Dutroux probably worked for a network : Michel Nihoul could be the link between Dutroux and some higher belgian authorities who protected all them, though it doesn't take away the individual Dutroux's conscious responsability for his crimes.
As he did in the past Dutroux still complains all the time about his lack of freedom of speech or about his miscomfort in jail, so is he the poor baby?
the poor irresponsable "fall guy"??
I am sorry your words are deeply shocking. Keep some respect and some compassion for the real victims who are exactly the assassinated girls, their brave parents and the still alive Laetitia Delhez and Sabine Dardenne, they all really worth a deep human respect!
Stephane Goux is the Judge over this case who is trying to cover up elite involvement. This judge should be most severely punished for this. I hope to see him at the race trials.
Marc Dutroux is only a fall guy.
Well Hadding. What do you have to say to this?
Hadding
March 5th, 2004, 02:08 AM
The old rumor is that the identity of Jack the Ripper was well known in Britain among jail-keepers because he was in their kind care for most of his life. But his identity was kept secret for a variety of reasons, the most persistent of the reasons being he was either (1) an aristocrat, (b) Jewish, or (c) both.
Jack the Ripper was a Jew. There was a program on the Discovery Channel, I believe, that made it pretty clear. The culprit was not prosecuted and imprisoned but quietly put away in an insane asylum, allegedly because of an agreement with the Jewish witness who turned him in, who would only cooperate under the condition that consequences for his fellow Jew would be limited.
Hadding
March 5th, 2004, 02:20 AM
Stephane Goux is the Judge over this case who is trying to cover up elite involvement. This judge should be most severely punished for this. I hope to see him at the race trials.
Marc Dutroux is only a fall guy.
Well Hadding. What do you have to say to this?
I think the tolerance of such criminality by a political elite that fancies itself humane is really sick. The rest of us have to live with the beneficiaries of their indulgence. It is a tendency here as well as in Belgium. Over and over we see cases of incorrigible criminals, especially niggers, that are returned to live among us after a few years in a state-funded hotel that pretends to "correct" them. Feeding into that is the indulgence of Typical Negro Behavior in public schools, which allows such behavior to escalate into criminality.
The sickness seems to run even deeper in this case, beyond perverse sympathy to actual conspiracy. It certainly does appear that Dutroux has benefited from the connivance of some of Belgium's political elite, at least in the case of that senator who arranged for the reporter to meet him. I wonder if that senator thought his assistance in the matter could actually be kept secret.
Kind Lampshade Maker
March 5th, 2004, 08:21 AM
Kind Lampshade Maker,
I live in Belgium. Of course since 9 years I hearded about the Dutroux affair that hurts deeply all the belgian people. Belgian people hate the ...................................victims who are exactly the assassinated girls, their brave parents and the still alive Laetitia Delhez and Sabine Dardenne, they all really worth a deep human respect!
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I live in Belgium. Of course since 9 years I hearded about the Dutroux affair that hurts deeply all the belgian people. Belgian people hate the police and justice's perverse junk much more than Marc Dutroux who can benefit of a nice comfortable treatment in jail as his other accomplices.
KLM:
I’ve had trouble with the police there also, but for different reasons and in the French-speaking Walloon region where Dutroux lives. I was held up for hours there, because I transited from northern Germany through Holland and through Belgium with my belongings using temporary German licence plates while moving house to southern Germany. The licence plates attracted attention and this seemed to be a case of Belgian civil servants with nothing better to do except bother Germans, becaise of the war. They even called in drug-sniffing dogs and thus found nothing, of course. They escorted me to the border with Germany because of my licence plates, even though we have a EU guarantee of free mobility of citizens. The Policeman’s argument was that the vehicle wasn’t insured in Belgium, even though I showed him proof of insurance which was printed in German. He only wanted to read French. Had the police been this thorough in investigating the screams from the 2 starving girls in Dutroux’s basement dungeon, he would have long been put out of business.
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I thoroughly disagree with your statement "Marc Dutroux is only a fall guy", please have some human respect and compassion for the parents of the died victims and for the still alive girls so deeply hurted by Marc Dutroux and his accomplices. That perverse monster is responsable for the horrors he made himself. Even the Dutroux's attorney recognizes his perverse responsability. ……….. Indeed there are many material proves that Dutroux probably worked for a network : Michel Nihoul could be the link between Dutroux and some higher belgian authorities who protected all them, though it doesn't take away the individual Dutroux's conscious responsability for his crimes.
As he did in the past Dutroux still complains all the time about his lack of freedom of speech or about his miscomfort in jail, so is he the poor baby?
the poor irresponsable "fall guy"??
I am sorry your words are deeply shocking. Keep some respect and some compassion for the real victims who are exactly the assassinated girls, their brave parents and the still alive Laetitia Delhez and Sabine Dardenne, they all really worth a deep human respect!
KLM:
I understand now what you mean. I used the false definition and meant to say “Patsy” instead of “Fall guy”.
I appologize for creating a situation of mis-understanding. Dutroux is used as a Patsy by his accomplices, higher up, similar as how Lee Harvey Oswald was used to create the “Lone Gunman” illusion during the plot to assasinate JFK.
I understand the severity of Dutroux’s crimes and share the opinion that he will be spared justice as long as he is housed in a humane prison serving his sentence in a cell with transvestites, homosexuals, sub-Humans or other pedarasts. If he were to serve his sentence together with hardened criminals, he wouldn’t live very long, especially in an American prison. Specifically for this case, Globalization wouldn’t be a bad idea. However, I still think that his crimes, as horrible as they really are, are small time compared to those of his accomplices who are hiding behind judicial corruption. Of all of them, the presiding judge, which I mentioned in my last posting, should suffer the severest of punishments from all involved in this ring, because of his attempts at obstructing justice, even though he probably never has had pedarast relations, himself. I am sure that the parent share the same feelings as I do, when asked.
This case has historical precedence and calls in question the existence of this artificial country of which each of their halfs belong to their northern and southern neighbors. This travesty of justice will only play into the hands of the Vlaams Blok.
Kind Lampshade Maker
March 8th, 2004, 07:32 AM
I think the tolerance of such criminality by a political elite that fancies itself humane is really sick. The rest of us have to live with the beneficiaries of their indulgence. It is a tendency here as well as in Belgium. Over and over we see cases of incorrigible criminals, especially niggers, that are returned to live among us after a few years in a state-funded hotel that pretends to "correct" them. Feeding into that is the indulgence of Typical Negro Behavior in public schools, which allows such behavior to escalate into criminality.
Sure, but what you mention happens to be a situation of ingrained institutionality. Everything above concerning the US is legal. What is currently going on in the Belgian system is subject to question in an even higher court and I can’t imagine that if something like this were to take place in the Joo Ess Eh, the judge in question wouldn’t eventually be called to question for “Abuse of Justice” and thus punished accordingly.
Perhaps I’m wrong. Case in point:
What this Belgian judge is trying to do. It is well publicised, here in Germany, so well publicised that even viewers of Trash TV would pick up the drift.
I haven’t been to the JS for a long time, but can’t imagine that if it were to happen there under identicle circumstances, there wouldn’t be a public outcry with pickets and mass protests daily outside the courthouse. Or am I wrong? If abortionist doctors get knocked off, why wouldn’t such a judge be subject to the same fate?
Or have things been getting as bad as here, in Europe?
The sickness seems to run even deeper in this case, beyond perverse sympathy to actual conspiracy. It certainly does appear that Dutroux has benefited from the connivance of some of Belgium's political elite, at least in the case of that senator who arranged for the reporter to meet him. I wonder if that senator thought his assistance in the matter could actually be kept secret.
Doesn’t look like much connivance is needed. This whole cover-up is obvious.
By the way, isn’t “Pedarast” the word you intend to use for titling this thread? Pedophile’s definition: Child-love. This word is Greek and often misinterpreted.
A pedarast is anything but that
belfastbombshell
March 20th, 2004, 11:54 PM
pederast = pervert who prefers children past puberty
pedophile= pervert who prefers children before puberty
It is unusual for anyone except child rapists to claim that paedophilia means child love - the word refers to 'erotic' or 'sexualised' love when directed toward children this is always abuse
Turk Hunter
March 21st, 2004, 06:34 AM
pederast = pervert who prefers children past puberty
pedophile= pervert who prefers children before puberty
It is unusual for anyone except child rapists to claim that paedophilia means child love - the word refers to 'erotic' or 'sexualised' love when directed toward children this is always abuse
Funny, I always thought puberty was supposed to divide childhood from adulthood
MortyZuckerbaum
March 21st, 2004, 07:45 AM
You stupid shiksa! A pederast is a man who who shtups boys! This is relates to my field of work so I know all about that sort of thing. I'm not a pederast myself but I make alot of sheckels selling photos of it. Check out my website, http://www.yummygoykiddies.com.il/
belfastbombshell
March 21st, 2004, 01:20 PM
Funny, I always thought puberty was supposed to divide childhood from adulthood
You are then obviously a scum bag who thinks it OK to fuck 12 year olds. The age that girls reach the menarche is 11 years of age in Western European countries. Little Girls of that age are not considered adults or sexually mature in any CIVILISED society.
belfastbombshell
March 21st, 2004, 01:25 PM
You stupid shiksa! A pederast is a man who who shtups boys! This is relates to my field of work so I know all about that sort of thing. I'm not a pederast myself but I make alot of sheckels selling photos of it. Check out my website, http://www.yummygoykiddies.com.il/
I am a Director of a Rape Crisis Centre and I know what I am talking about. What names they sell child porn under is not my concern. A paedophile abuses pre-pubescent children a pedarast teens (the gender of the child is specified by the use of the heterosexual or homosexual prefix. Look it up in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic Manual (Oh! sorry I nearly forgot all those shrinks are Yids whose only purpose in life is to fuck up the white male American brain)
Turk Hunter
March 21st, 2004, 04:30 PM
You are then obviously a scum bag who thinks it OK to fuck 12 year olds. The age that girls reach the menarche is 11 years of age in Western European countries. Little Girls of that age are not considered adults or sexually mature in any CIVILISED society.
Any girl who’s old enough to give birth automatically carries the responsibility for the beared child of who’s importance comes 1st. I agree with the fact that each new generation becomes able to give birth at an earlier age. Especially Niggers and Meds.
You seem to imply that it’s appropriate for a 12 year old to impregnate another 12 year old, but it’s not appropriate for an 18 year old to do it. At least the 18 year old can get a job to support his new family and at least has a little more maturity or are you opiniated towards abortion in these cases?
Take a look around you and tell me that some of these 12 year olds don’t know what they’re doing in bed and that they themselves don’t know anything about the birds & bees?!
I simply pointed out biological FACTS. Puberty is the transition from child to adult (I dare anybody to dispute this). The physical transition is reliable, but not necessarily the mental, in which case you’ve not yet been subject to the latter.
Hadding
March 21st, 2004, 07:19 PM
By the way, isn’t “Pedarast” the word you intend to use for titling this thread? Pedophile’s definition: Child-love. This word is Greek and often misinterpreted.
A pedarast is anything but that
I used the word paedophilia because this is the word that is being used in Belgium. Obviously philia is not a very apt term for an inclination that can lead to keeping children in cages. We have to make some concession to the way words are actually used. Originally pederasty and paedophilia both referred only to boys. (Paedes can mean only boys or children in general.) The difference between paederasty and paedophilia, according to etymology, should not be one of age; rather it should be the difference between philia (friendly love) and eros (desirous love). Obviously paedophilia today is not used with such an innocent denotation, at least not in American English.
belfastbombshell
March 21st, 2004, 08:32 PM
Any girl who’s old enough to give birth automatically carries the responsibility for the beared child of who’s importance comes 1st. I agree with the fact that each new generation becomes able to give birth at an earlier age. Especially Niggers and Meds.
You seem to imply that it’s appropriate for a 12 year old to impregnate another 12 year old, but it’s not appropriate for an 18 year old to do it. At least the 18 year old can get a job to support his new family and at least has a little more maturity or are you opiniated towards abortion in these cases?
Take a look around you and tell me that some of these 12 year olds don’t know what they’re doing in bed and that they themselves don’t know anything about the birds & bees?!
I simply pointed out biological FACTS. Puberty is the transition from child to adult (I dare anybody to dispute this). The physical transition is reliable, but not necessarily the mental, in which case you’ve not yet been subject to the latter.
I certainly do not think its Ok for 12 year olds to have sex with eachother A 12 year old is a child. I support 16 as the age of consent for both sexes Are you seriously saying you think its OK for an 18 year old to have sex with a 12 year old? That is child abuse STATUTORY RAPE. :eek:
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 12:19 AM
I certainly do not think its Ok for 12 year olds to have sex with eachother A 12 year old is a child. I support 16 as the age of consent for both sexes Are you seriously saying you think its OK for an 18 year old to have sex with a 12 year old? That is child abuse STATUTORY RAPE. :eek:
A long time ago, 12 year old girls would get married and have kids at age 12. Then again, by the time they reached 40 they were usually a grandparent and died pretty soon. I'm not saying people should go out and marry 12 year olds , because I myself find that a little too young, but I definately think girls can start having kids at a younger age than the current age of being in the 20's. Just another statistic that isn't exactly helping our numbers.
The Final Solution
March 22nd, 2004, 12:14 PM
pederast = pervert who prefers children past puberty pedophile= pervert who prefers children before puberty
Another classification:
(A pedophile is a psychiatric term for someone who molests children who are prepubescent, under the age of 13. A hebophile molests children 13 and older.)
http://paulandlisa.org/escapeinternet.html
Turk Hunter
March 22nd, 2004, 03:06 PM
I certainly do not think its Ok for 12 year olds to have sex with eachother A 12 year old is a child. I support 16 as the age of consent for both sexes Are you seriously saying you think its OK for an 18 year old to have sex with a 12 year old? That is child abuse STATUTORY RAPE. :eek:
Gee, it took over a day for you to think up a comeback for my last post.
At age 12, I almost prayed for getting sexually assaulted by a mature woman, usually a teacher, a sexy aunt or friend of my mom’s. I think that this Americanism “Statuatory Rape” exists only there and not in any other country that I know of. Rape is an unwanted act. So how does this euphamism “Statuatory” automatically convert a mutually wanted act into a unilaterally unwanted act? Is it possible to cop a statuatory blow job?
Besides, why are women even charged with an offense which can only be commited by a male?
No, I don’t think it’s OK for 12 year olds to risk pregnancy altogether, exclusively for the sake of the conceived child. In fact I don’t think it’s OK for certain adults either, for the same reasons. There are adults out there who I’d sterilize, if I had the chance.
I think that you had better give some serious thought as to what child abuse really is.
If you really lead a rape crisis center, you wouldn’t be using the profane language which you use. Rape crisis counselors are either professional academics or imposters who in reality only apply self-therapy for their own incurred rapes
Kind Lampshade Maker
March 23rd, 2004, 07:38 AM
A long time ago, 12 year old girls would get married and have kids at age 12. Then again, by the time they reached 40 they were usually a grandparent and died pretty soon. I'm not saying people should go out and marry 12 year olds , because I myself find that a little too young, but I definately think girls can start having kids at a younger age than the current age of being in the 20's. Just another statistic that isn't exactly helping our numbers.
I can remember this transition, when I was 12. There used to be this girl who always smiled at me in my Jewnior High class. She was flat as an ironing board, thus she didn’t interest me.
I saw her again, in September, as a foxy young lady with a nice rack and cakes, but as you guessed, she ignored me. I had to suffer having her in my class again :(
Jim
March 24th, 2004, 01:15 AM
BELGIUM DOES NOT EXIST! (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2887)
MOMUS
March 24th, 2004, 03:13 AM
BELGIUM DOES NOT EXIST! (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2887)
Very funny there, Jim, the way they all took you seriously.
Turk Hunter
March 24th, 2004, 09:02 AM
Very funny there, Jim, the way they all took you seriously.
Funny, I got the impression he all of a sudden took us seriously
MOMUS
March 24th, 2004, 11:53 AM
Funny, I got the impression he all of a sudden took us seriously
Jim is not speaking of the artificial nature of the state of Belgium and its disparate population of Walloons/Flemish, his humorous conceit is that there is no such thing at all; just a conspiracy to pretend the existence of an "imaginary" country. He puts forth an absurdist lampoon ala Jim from Taxi. Everybody on the thread took him seriously, though.
Example;
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.
Turk Hunter
March 24th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Jim is not speaking of the artificial nature of the state of Belgium and its disparate population of Walloons/Flemish, his humorous conceit is that there is no such thing at all; just a conspiracy to pretend the existence of an "imaginary" country. He puts forth an absurdist lampoon ala Jim from Taxi. Everybody on the thread took him seriously, though.
Example;
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.
His humor is typical of the type to get you rolling on the floor laughing while on a mescaline trip :)
MOMUS
March 24th, 2004, 08:45 PM
His humor is typical of the type to get you rolling on the floor laughing while on a mescaline trip :)
It seems to be his consistant shtick. All of his posts are "Jim"-like pseudo-stoned maunderings.
Kind Lampshade Maker
March 26th, 2004, 03:53 PM
It seems to be his consistant shtick. All of his posts are "Jim"-like pseudo-stoned maunderings.
Isn't it nice to have an "Ignore Button" option?
I think I'll give him a reputation :cool:
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 7th, 2004, 06:57 AM
Dutroux & co. had connections to the “Celestian Church of Christ”
Here's an update in Dutch:
http://www.ptb.be/scripts/article.phtml?lang=2&obid=23522
in French:
http://www.ptb.be/scripts/article.phtml?lang=1&obid=23523
auf Deutsch:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=fr&u=http://www.ptb.be/scripts/article.phtml%3Flang%3D1%26obid%3D23523&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCelestian%2BChurch%2Bof%2BChrist%2Bdutroux%26hl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG
Google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Celestian+Church+of+Christ+dutroux&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
Hugo Böse
June 8th, 2004, 04:20 AM
There have been many such cases in Europe, where the justice system released child rapists after ridiculously short sentences and once released these rapists then quickly committed new atrocities.
The European judicial system appears to have more sympathy towards the most vile criminals than they have towards the victims. Evidence of this is that many countries have abolished life sentences, Switzerland I believe has a maximum sentence of only 20 years, no matter what kind of atrocity committed, can you imagine? Great deterrent that is for a mass murderer, desperate criminal or rapist, a nice jail cell with television and great service for 20 years, for criminals it’s well worth the risk.
I will never understand what makes these inhuman, leftist, Satan servants tick, it is incredible that a multiple child rapist gets out of jail after 3 years; the minimum action for the sake of public safety should at least be to leave them in jail until they are too old and too sick to do anybody any harm.
God how we need a new Hitler to once more liberate the fools form their stupidity.
My dream spectator sport would be public execution gladiator style. The Romans knew how to deal with the trash. I would watch it as feverishly as the lemmings follow their nigger ball.
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 8th, 2004, 08:05 AM
There have been many such cases in Europe, where the justice system released child rapists after ridiculously short sentences and once released these rapists then quickly committed new atrocities.
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They do this all day long, here in Germany. Voters keep bending over forwards, despite
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 8th, 2004, 02:31 PM
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The European judicial system appears to have more sympathy towards the most vile criminals than they have towards the victims. Evidence of this is that many countries have abolished life sentences, .........
To make matters worse, the EU thugs meddle into the affairs of member countries when appropriate punishment is attempted:
http://crime.about.com/library/weekly/aa021901a.htm
"In 1999, the European Commission of Human Rights ruled that the "highly charged" atmosphere of the trial -- an adult court, the boys separated from their parents -- led to an unfair verdict. Even at the time of the trial, there was international criticism of the adult trial (the UK's "age of responsibility", the age at which a child's crime can be treated as other than a juvenile offense, is 10) "
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 18th, 2004, 06:44 PM
"Belgium" has the most lenient parole laws in Europe. 4 found guilty including Marc Dutroux. All 4 will be eligible for parole in 10 years, although convicted for murder. EU doesent interfere, regardless how lenient the punishment. On the other hand, if the punishment seems too harsh, the EU steps in :mad: :
http://www.spr-consilio.com/crimlitig.html
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 19th, 2004, 05:59 AM
Here's a couple more:
http://www.aufklaerungsgruppe-krokodil.de/DerFallMarcDutroux_1_neu.pdf
http://www.radicalparty.org/belgium/bambini_scomparsi_e.htm
Kind Lampshade Maker
June 19th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Here's the verdict:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/17/belgium.dutroux/
Life becomes 10 years for good behaviour. He'll be 59 if he gets out. Still young enough to get a hard-on. If he's smart, he'll be on his worst behaviour, because if he gets out early, his own nightmare will start:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/17/belgium.dutroux/
This was hard to find. Here's what I got, while trying to search other sources:
http://www.google.de/search?q=dutroux+verdict&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
Reminds me of the Warren Commission after Dead Kennedy got his head done
Chain
February 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM
http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=508537
http://www.nnnforum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=32303&hl=
Marc Dutroux, a Jewish Belgian, ran a pedophile ring and made porno/snuff movies.
http://judicial-inc.biz/marc_d12.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux
The Dutroux case is now considered so evil and infamous that more than a third of Belgians with the surname "Dutroux" applied to have their name changed between 1996 and the trial.
...During this time, Julie Lejeune and Mélissa Russo were still alive in the basement dungeon, but they were not found. Since the search was unrelated to kidnapping charges, police searching the house had no dogs or specialised equipment that may have discovered the girls' presence. However, one officer heard children crying.
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SMG3000
February 16th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Probably the case will bring to light the satanic doings of various big-wig ZOGlings in that country and in many others. It would be true that the majority of clients of snuff films would likely be jewish, but I think the system is also trying to cover its ass.
They may also be waiting to try to inure Belgians to the idea that the proclivities of aristocratic jews and shabboz goys, such as pedophilia and child-murder, are not truely as evil as the Aryan heritage of their "cattle" insists. It sounds very insidious, but it actually fits into the "mind control" type programs the ZOGs have been implementing for over fifty years.
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