View Full Version : SF rep point system... the truth.
Demigorgona
December 7th, 2003, 08:46 PM
http://www.ypenterprise.net/viewforum.php?f=47
The oh so evil point club ... Enjoy reading.
Demigorgona
December 7th, 2003, 09:38 PM
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=103908&page=3
western-nationalist
December 7th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Now I know why Plethgon was on the first page,
cabinger
December 7th, 2003, 10:29 PM
Rep points are a joke. That whole place is one big circle jerkoff session.
Demigorgona
December 8th, 2003, 02:23 AM
yea its kinda strange when someone (phleg) who hasnt posted in months, jumps from page 9 to page 1...
western-nationalist
December 8th, 2003, 02:28 AM
yea its kinda strange when someone (phleg) who hasnt posted in months, jumps from page 9 to page 1...
Why did you ban me after that post?
Grand_Inquisitor
December 8th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Revealed! You Swill Are In For It Now! What do you have to say for yourself?
Bama is untouchable.
Demigorgona
December 8th, 2003, 02:45 AM
W-n you arent banned, but you were able to post before because i had that particular forum set to public by accident. I fixed it. Now you have to register to post.
G_I ... if you are going to post under G_I's nick, you could at least impersonate him a little better. ;)
Massemord
December 8th, 2003, 03:02 AM
Demi,
It's nice to see someone here from Stormfront who isn't an imposter. I was sad to see you banned from SF twice in a row.
The rep points system is a waste of time, in my opinion. It's just a way for sychophants to circle jerk eachother in their little clique. And it keeps leading to petty bickering, too. Does anyone even pay attention to those dumb green dots? Why haven't I've ever seen anyone with a red dot? I'd feel like a total badass if I had a nice, cherry-color, outlaw badboy red dot underneath my name.
//\\//\\
Dirk Ringpiece
December 8th, 2003, 05:52 AM
Come on, it's a bit rich to start complaining about cliques when you look at how those doing the complaining were behaving.
Demigorgona
December 8th, 2003, 12:21 PM
Which was how?
Das Bruce
December 8th, 2003, 12:51 PM
You are not your post count...
You are not your little green dots...
We are all part of the same Indo-European Carbon matter...
You are not your fucking M1-A Flight Jacket...
Draco
December 8th, 2003, 02:44 PM
I was banned from SF two times. Once for cursing out a mod who stuck up for Hymiewood, one for skullfucking Muad "Dravidian" Dweeb over here. They reinstated by membership, but I never posted again. Its literally just unemployed fags stroking each other off while the few heterosexuals pathetically try to cyber-fuck anything with tits....be it white or not. That mulatta porn star was quite popular over there. I think the best thing that could happen to racially aware whites right now is the destruction of SF. It serves literally NO productive purpose.
western-nationalist
December 8th, 2003, 02:45 PM
yeah I am on the brink of getting banned there now
cabinger
December 8th, 2003, 04:05 PM
yeah I am on the brink of getting banned there now
Post some threads. :)
TylerD
December 8th, 2003, 04:52 PM
Phlegethon shooting to the top probably has something to do with him being Red's cyber-boyfriend (at least he was in the past). :)
Phlegethon (aka ProGerman) also wrote this immediately after Pierce died. Phlegethon stated in the past that he did not care about the movement in America, so this wasn't about making valid criticisms to benefit us. He just wanted to talk shit.
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:ei6NDqqX2vcJ:www.onepeoplesproject.com/nounity.htm+site:onepeoplesproject.com+william+pierce+harold+covington&hl=en&start=2&ie=UTF-8
Am I the only one who will not miss Pierce?
Having read the threads on the Stormfront and AryanDawn webboards referring to Pierce's death and just having deleted about 200 chain emails of the Gerhard article I seriously have to ask myself whether I am the only one here who does not miss Pierce at all.
Although many here won't believe it (not that it really matters) I have been in opposition to Pierce long before Harold Covington started his anti-NA campaigns in the early 90s. This silly "De mortuis nihil nisi bene" concept has for decades kept us from analyzing our own weaknesses and mistakes and learning from them. What we (we as activists, we as the "movement", we as those seriously pissed) need in order to ever get anywhere as far as visible results are concerned is critical thinkers - and not yah-sayers and pathological groupies.
Now let us cut like a knife through this veil of impulsive and subjective hagiography and look at what the Doc Pierce has really achieved in over three decades:
1. He worked with/for George Lincoln Rockwell, most probably the most dead-end political course one could take in America. The NA originally sprang from the Youth For Wallace, which is also quite dubious as this was a clearly conservative all-American "movement" and not revolutionary in any
way.
2. The whole NA was basically Pierce's private property, run in an authoritarian and anything but halfway democratic style. The sheer idiocy of the majority of Pierce's sycophants was outstanding. Apparently Pierce was aiming very low for membership as he certainly did not tolerate anyone potentially equally intelligent in the ranks of the NA.
3. Pierce was the teflon man of the "movement" although he probably gave the feds more reasons for investigations/actions than any other "movement" group, maybe with the exception of the WCOTC. Yet nothing ever happened, while there were sieges in Ruby Ridge and Waco.
4. Despite all that revolutionary and violent rhetoric Pierce was probably the most conservative man in the movement and far as habitus and personal behavior is concerned. Being a major shareholder while on the other hand disguising as sort of an anti-capitalist does not make you very trustworthy
5. Pierce's NA empire is basically the result of what I would call "hostile takeovers". He profited from the infighting and quarrels his missionaries incited in other organizations. While I admit that I cannot
fully judge the results of that strategy (Resistance Records come to mind as an example) I am fully aware of the results in Europe, where Pierce tried to undermine and destroy legitimate nationalist organizations and basically acted like an agent provocateur from the safety of his WV compound while his NA cannon fodder in Europe did the dirty work. And by dirty work I don't mean morally
or ethically questionable tactics. I am talking about criminal activities (and yes, they are even criminal in the U.S.)
6. Pierce never spent any energy on building structures. The NA has no cadres, no mandatory training and education for members and basically nothing ever got delegated from WV to state or local chapters. There is no clear chain of command. I also doubt (and the future will show)
that the NA as an organization is legally owning anything. NA operations were financed
exclusively according to Pierce's good will.
7. There is no legal way the membership of the NA can replace it's Führer At least there are no charter provisions for that scenario. Would you want to be a member of such an absolutistic group? I certainly wouldn't.
8. The Cosmotheist Church concept was so ridiculous that even the Area 51 conspiracy nuts make a whole lot more sense.
Now that Pierce is dead there at least is the theoretical chance that the NA might evolve into a serious political force. But in order to achieve that almost everything will have to be changed. You really cannot achieve anything when you're hiding in the backwoods of West Virginia, where you
pool your resources and members will have to do a pilgrimage there like muslims do their hadj to Mecca. In order to be more than just a personal cult the NA will have to define itself as a political force. As such it will have to influence the political process directly - and that is the hardest part. Therefore most "movement" groups have always shied away from that responsibility. But exactly that is expected by the people. Selling books and CDs just isn't enough. The ADV broadcast lacked coherence and never offered a viable strategy for the listeners. The bottom line was "Send me your
$$ so that I can perpetuate these ADV sermons from the WV hill and sell more trinkets".
There may have been longtime goals, but they were anything but concrete. It all boiled down to "Trust me, I know the way". But the point is: I doubt that Pierce ever did. He probably was the one most surprised by the fact that such a comic book, mad professor type guru could attract a substantial
number of allegedly political groupies. I mean, Pierce had the charisma of a dead fish. That guy really creeped me (and not only me) out and those who know me also know that I am not very sensitive in that regard.
X1965ChainImmigrants
December 8th, 2003, 05:17 PM
My FAVORITE alltime Phlegethon post:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=594566#post594566
English is the European language with the smallest vocabulary.
...to which someone (Bogatyr, in this case- on the spot!) had the good sense to immediately reply:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=594648&postcount=7
This is utter BS. I don't know where you get your information from, but as a professional corpus linguist, I can assure you that the standard English lexicon far surpasses nearly every other language in size. The largest Spanish dictionary, for instance, contains a lexicon of about 300,000 words. Webster's Unabridged contains twice as many, and the Oxford English Dictionary has even more than that. Consider also the rate at which English speakers coin new terminology and adapt loan-words from other languages, and it quickly becomes clear that modern English probably has both the largest and the most easily expanded lexicon of any language in the world.
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