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Jim
March 10th, 2004, 11:19 PM
Belgium is, and has always been, an imaginary country.
It's a leftist ploy, a tool used by the NWO to spread their leftist agenda throughout the world. Taking over a real country for this purpose would be impossible, the citizens would not stand for it. (Just look at the fall of communism) Therefore, the NWO decided to invent an imaginary country, and now they use it as a tool of global manipulation.

Mike Jahn
March 10th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Belgium is, and has always been, an imaginary country.
It's a leftist ploy, a tool used by the NWO to spread their leftist agenda throughout the world. Taking over a real country for this purpose would be impossible, the citizens would not stand for it. (Just look at the fall of communism) Therefore, the NWO decided to invent an imaginary country, and now they use it as a tool of global manipulation.

Your statements are valid...The Belgian Walloons naturally belong with France and the Belgian Flemish belong with Holland...it is a very thrown together country.

Jim
March 10th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Your statements are valid...The Belgian Walloons naturally belong with France and the Belgian Flemish belong with Holland...it is a very thrown together country.

The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland
http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/56687/thumbnails/belcit.jpg

Kurt
March 11th, 2004, 02:12 AM
they sure do brew some great beers (http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/), though.

http://www.belgian-beer-cafe.com.au/images/502.jpg

combatfrançais
March 11th, 2004, 03:31 AM
I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion. Then Flemish and Wallonian people were put together (and the German part of the country almost seems to have some lonely independance as it is officially too often ignored) though any "volksgeist" nor any language could be built to united the whole Belgian people. Belgian are supposed to live together in a Federal state though one could barely talk about a real national pride.
Indeed the leftists (especially the extreme leftists) are important but the belgian right extremists (very strong in Flandria) are getting a much more important influence. Some so called "belgian nationalist" movements try hard to safe some appearance of a Belgian identity as indeed there are only the Flemish or the Wallonian "communities" who talk about themselves.
The current Dutroux's trial points out a deeper "national" problem. Above the linguistic conflicts of the communities, this trial let appear a deeper identity crisis. As a country that had been historically occupied Belgium got too much used to keep silent about its deeply wrong aspects but there is a permanent worrying revolutionary attempt to make explose the only appearent fake Belgian unity.


they sure do brew some great beers (http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/), though.

http://www.belgian-beer-cafe.com.au/images/502.jpg

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 11th, 2004, 06:31 AM
they sure do brew some great beers (http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/), though.

http://www.belgian-beer-cafe.com.au/images/502.jpg
Including these:
http://home.tiscali.be/proud2be/etiquettes/11978.htm
http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=6400
www.bocque.be
http://www.st-feuillien.com/ffri03eng.html
Scroll down this site:
http://www.brassicolement-votre.org/Html/du_bocq.html

Gott
March 11th, 2004, 07:57 AM
But Leon Degrelle thought of himself as a true Belgian, and never sought to detach Walloonia from the rest of the country. He was intent upon seeing Belgium remain a valid, independent entity in a new united Europe under Germany. His SS division was called Walloonia though, not Belge...

Isn't the entire history of Europe in the 18th, and even more 19th, centuries the never ending attempt to keep Germany/Europe down for the benefit of the rotten ruling classes and the British?



I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion. Then Flemish and Wallonian people were put together (and the German part of the country almost seems to have some lonely independance as it is officially too often ignored) though any "volksgeist" nor any language could be built to united the whole Belgian people. Belgian are supposed to live together in a Federal state though one could barely talk about a real national pride.
Indeed the leftists (especially the extreme leftists) are important but the belgian right extremists (very strong in Flandria) are getting a much more important influence. Some so called "belgian nationalist" movements try hard to safe some appearance of a Belgian identity as indeed there are only the Flemish or the Wallonian "communities" who talk about themselves.
The current Dutroux's trial points out a deeper "national" problem. Above the linguistic conflicts of the communities, this trial let appear a deeper identity crisis. As a country that had been historically occupied Belgium got too much used to keep silent about its deeply wrong aspects but there is a permanent worrying revolutionary attempt to make explose the only appearent fake Belgian unity.

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 11th, 2004, 08:32 AM
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland
http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/56687/thumbnails/bpp.jpg
Wait! I recognise this photo. Isn’t this Marc Dutroux’s pedarastic dungeon?

The Final Solution
March 11th, 2004, 01:45 PM
they sure do brew some great beers (http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/), though.


My favorites are the trappistes such as Westmalle XXX, and Krak/Kwak which could be a "lambic." Up to 9% ABV.

Jim
March 12th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Not only would the NWO have us believe in the existence of Belgium, they would have us think their illusory nation is a utopia. Typical of the Liberal Media, we have been inundated with pro-Belgium propaganda: Belgians' alleged superiority in the art of chocolate making; the reputed nutritional value of "Brussels sprouts"; how all quality diamonds can only be acquired through dealers in the mythical city of Antwerp; How french fries are actually a Belgian invention; and the "superior" martial artistry of Jean Claude Van Damme, the "Muscles from Brussels". Furthermore, Mystery! on PBS regularly depicts Belgians - such as Agatha Christie's "Hercule Poirot" - as personable sleuths who always outsmart non-Belgians and uncover pro-Belgium versions of "The Truth."

Hadding
March 12th, 2004, 04:02 AM
I agree with most of your arguments and I just want to add some more explanations.

I live in Belgium being half Belgian half French. Indeed Belgium doesn't have any real national identity as France or as the USA but this fact is mosly due to its historical bakcground. Before its independance Belgium had been occupied by Spain, Holland and France. In 1830 Belgium was artificially created for the benefit of the UK and France that didn't ask the new Belgian people's opinion.
The Kingdom of the Netherlands came into being in 1815, carved out of former French territory following the defeat of Napoleon, and Belgium seceded from the Netherlands in 1830. A royal house closely related to the British royal house was then installed in Belgium.

At that time, Germany was not a great power. It appears that the use of Belgium (which had probably also been the original purpose of the Kingdom of the Netherlands) was to weaken France and to box in France geographically so that if France began to expand again the first move would give the British an excuse to get involved. Perhaps it was also the case that the Kingdom of the Netherlands had appeared too formidable to be allowed to continue in one piece.

On the other hand, I don't really know about all the intrigues that may have fueled the secession of Belgium from the Netherlands: maybe there was some French hope already in 1830 of reabsorbing part of the Netherlands into France, but that did not materialize. Instead Belgium was brought into the British orbit.

In both the First World War, and early in the Second, there seems to have been a heavy emphasis in British propaganda on the suffering of the Belgians. As a country with no history, and thus no reproaches such as might come to mind in the case of France, Belgium has been a handy country to portray as the innocent victim in British war-propaganda.

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 12th, 2004, 04:44 AM
Not only would the NWO have us believe in the existence of Belgium, they would have us think their illusory nation is a utopia. Typical of the Liberal Media, we have been inundated with pro-Belgium propaganda: Belgians' alleged superiority in the art of chocolate making; the reputed nutritional value of "Brussels sprouts"; how all quality diamonds can only be acquired through dealers in the mythical city of Antwerp; How french fries are actually a Belgian invention; and the "superior" martial artistry of Jean Claude Van Damme, the "Muscles from Brussels". Furthermore, Mystery! on PBS regularly depicts Belgians - such as Agatha Christie's "Hercule Poirot" - as personable sleuths who always outsmart non-Belgians and uncover pro-Belgium versions of "The Truth."
Which reminds me of another country with an unseen “Wall of China” type wall deviding a prosperous north and a life’s blood sucking south where the nation’s capital sits, namely Italy.
My 1st time in Brussels was in the Autumn of ’84. I stopped at a restaurant and ate my life’s 1st salad with the bugs still in it. Some important looking older dude wearing a suit and tie stood around and gave the impression that he was the owner or something. As we drove thru the countryside all we saw were amateurish homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them, a term similar to French Fries or fried objects. I thought that I was in the Canada of Europe.

Hadding
March 12th, 2004, 11:23 AM
As we drove thru the countryside all we saw were amateurish homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them, a term similar to French Fries or fried objects. I thought that I was in the Canada of Europe.
Les Frittes. Belgians eat more French fries per capita than any other country in the world.

I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through trade-policies. Also, I understand that Belgium let in a lot of southern-Italian immigrants to provide cheap industrial labor about the same time that the US did, roughly a century ago.

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 12th, 2004, 06:14 PM
Les Frittes. Belgians eat more French fries per capita than any other country in the world.

I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through trade-policies.
I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through Med work ethics and a siesta mentality. "Arbiet macht frei" to them

Jim
March 12th, 2004, 06:25 PM
The NWO have been hard at work dissimulating our reality. Through the deft use of relativism and red herrings like political correctness, they have been able to slip "Belgium" into history and geography without anyone noticing. The cleverness of this is almost laudable. Belgium history was designed with just enough territorial skirmishes, political struggles, and colonialism to make it blend in with the rest of Europe. That, combined with the co-opting of French and German historical figures and events creates an alternate history that meshes with the real one. Where does the contrivances stop and reality begin? What's more, under the auspices of the Liberal controlled Department of Education, our children are being forced to believe in these lies. History has been revised so many times that it's no wonder public schools want more money; they keep having to buy new history books!

Using the assumed voice of a nation, the NWO seeks to insinuate itself into world discussions, quietly changing the topic of conversations with a casual remark here, a whisper there. Need proof? The fictitious country of "Belgium" was a founding member of the European Union (which is, as you should be aware, step one in the march to the One World Government,) most of who's governing institutions are supposedly based in "Brussels." As are the headquarters of the Customs Cooperations Council (an Orwellian name if I ever heard one,) and other international bodies, unimportant and seemingly harmless now, that will have unaccountable jurisdiction to pass regulations and levy tariffs over any future global citizens.

Jim
March 13th, 2004, 04:58 AM
I can hear the Left now, "But how could the existence of an entire country, albeit a small one, be a hoax?" Radical art types will, of course, ramble on and on about Rubens, Van Dyck, and other assumed Belgian artists that they learned about in their "Liberal Education" Public school teachers would point out that if it weren't for "Belgium," there would be a blank spot between France and Netherlands on our maps, forgetting that the data for our maps came from CIA-controlled spy-satellites. Some aging hippies may even claim to have bought drugs there, but of what value are the delusions of a stoned counter-culturalist. They will all vehemently disagree with you if you DARE doubt the existence of "Belgium". They actually believe in it.

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 13th, 2004, 09:03 PM
I can hear the Left now, ...................a stoned counter-culturalist. They will all vehemently disagree with you if you DARE doubt the existence of "Belgium". They actually believe in it.
A puppet royalty was installed, completing the illusion

Executioner
March 14th, 2004, 11:55 AM
The New World Order's Belgian Conspiracy Division and all its brainwashed "Belgians" actually live in a large, underground complex beneath Euro-Disneyland. This is where the "Belgians" are hooked up to virtual reality machines that make them think they are in "Belgium" so they can go forth and pester those of us who live in real countries.

Pictured below: "Belgian" Citizen's hooked up to virtual reality machines beneath Euro-Disneyland
http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/56687/thumbnails/bpp.jpg
Just one question.Should Brussels be Dutch or French?I agree,there is nothing between the two.It's a fascinating frontier town between the Roman Empire,and the places the Romans never got their hands on.In Britain,this division is called Hadrian's Wall,in the middle of knowhere.In Belgium,it runs through the capital city

Gott
March 29th, 2004, 01:24 PM
I think you will find, that Britain and Germany were very close allies. Up untill the 20th century. It was the Jews who destroyed that alliance.


If that is 'close allies' I'd hate to see distant ones. Allies as long as Germany is not Germany. The moment Germany is Germany though...

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 29th, 2004, 04:23 PM
I think Wallonia has been impoverished largely through Med work ethics and a siesta mentality. "Arbiet macht frei" to them

LOL I wish America would get some of those Med work ethics. I'm getting a wee sick of 51 weeks of work a year and ten to twelve hour days. I'd give my left nut to have vacation like Germans.

Siestas are fucking great dude. I live for a weekend siesta. Cochinillo asado, and siestas. Two things that make any trip to SPain worth repeating.

If the Walloons have taken that custom on, shows how smart they are. Or maybe just how Gallic. "savoir-vivre."

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 29th, 2004, 05:49 PM
LOL I wish America would get some of those Med work ethics. I'm getting a wee sick of 51 weeks of work a year and ten to twelve hour days. I'd give my left nut to have vacation like Germans.

Siestas are fucking great dude. I live for a weekend siesta. Cochinillo asado, and siestas. Two things that make any trip to SPain worth repeating.

If the Walloons have taken that custom on, shows how smart they are. Or maybe just how Gallic. "savoir-vivre."
You're right. Sietas are even healthy and increase worker productivity. :o
I used the wrong phrase. I should have said "Magnana" (pronounced "maniana") which is a Latin American euphamism meaning "putting it off 'til tomorrow"

Agis
March 30th, 2004, 09:25 AM
Was in Belgium last Saturday. By wit beer two elderly students kept saying Belgium was "complicated". Couldn't explain it to me. At least not in English; mentioned Vaamsblok.

A good chunk of the Netherlands was cut off to appease France instead of dispute claims to the territory... As with any political con-cocktion they seem to have something for "democratic" propaganda. In fact I think they're forced to vote...

Brussels is a human waste dump fighting for the title of EU DC.

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 30th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Was in Belgium last Saturday. By wit beer two elderly students kept saying Belgium was "complicated". Couldn't explain it to me. At least not in English; mentioned Vaamsblok.

A good chunk of the Netherlands was cut off to appease France instead of dispute claims to the territory... As with any political con-cocktion they seem to have something for "democratic" propaganda. In fact I think they're forced to vote...

Brussels is a human waste dump fighting for the title of EU DC. Just another filthy city on the otherside of the pond.
That's Vlaams Blok, a Flemish White party

Agis
March 30th, 2004, 02:42 PM
That's Vlaams Blok, a Flemish White party

The Vlaams Blok - A unique party

The international media pay a great deal of attention to the Vlaams Blok (Flemish Block) because of its many electoral victories. However, the image that they portray of our party is not always correct. Foreign journalists rarely understand Dutch: they get their information mostly from the Francophone Belgian media which tend to be hostile towards Flanders and the Flemings.

Flanders is generally portrayed in the Francophone press as a selfish, insular nation. Yet Flanders is heavily oriented towards other countries and cultures. The Port of Antwerp is of global importance. The Flemish are amongst the world's best polyglots, able to converse with English, French, German and, often, Spanish and Italian visitors in their own languages. No other region in the world exports so much per capita. Flanders' subsidisation of Wallonia is proportionally greater than the financial support given by the former West Germany to the former German Democratic Republic. The Francophone media often portray Flemings as "racists", yet "racist" Flanders is a favourite destination for genuine and self-styled "refugees" from across the world. The media image of Flemish nationalism and of the Vlaams Blok often does not reflect reality. We believe it is important that foreign observers of Belgian and Flemish politics receive a more accurate picture both of our party and of the Flemish patriotic movement in general.

http://vlaamsblok.be/index.shtml

Kind Lampshade Maker
March 30th, 2004, 04:57 PM
The Vlaams Blok - A unique party

The international media ............................Flemish politics receive a more accurate picture both of our party and of the Flemish patriotic movement in general.

http://vlaamsblok.be/index.shtml
I used to work at the youth hostel in Antwerp, years ago. I’ve seldom met so friendly people in Europe as I have there. That city, Gent, Genk and the whole surrounding are artistic masterpieces.
The Flemish used to make fun of the way the southern Dutch spoke while drunkenly invading Flanders on the weekend. Rightly so.
Anyway, the woman who ran the hostel was a Med looking fat c…t who milked the Youth hostel Organization and split the profits with her alcoholic boyfriend who more than likely had to get drunk in order to pop his wienie into the greasy fat Slag. I assume she was a Walloon balloon.
Anyway, the south of Belgium is a decadent cesspool which extorts the Aryan Flemish north out of subsidies probably to the equivalent of that the south of Italy does to the productive north. I don’t think the French even want the Walloons back, even though they hold tightly to their former colonies.
With this Dutroux trial and assasinations on agriculture officials, I would think that no one wants them. At least alive.

Agis
March 31st, 2004, 02:52 AM
I don’t think the French even want the Walloons back, even though they hold tightly to their former colonies.
With this Dutroux trial and assasinations on agriculture officials, I would think that no one wants them. At least alive.

The Dutch made a 'business' deal to avoid fighting an Alsace-Lorraine. France was out of line in both cases, imo. Hard to think of them as provocateurs but that is exactly what they were. Going where they didn't belong. Telling people what to do; creating a lot of bad blood, destabilizing regions, etc...

Gent is one of the Netherland's nicer cities... "Belgium" just confuses people. Reduced population pressures, however, is creating more graveyard than geist between the Franks and Flems.

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 31st, 2004, 04:23 PM
The Vlaams Blok - A unique party

The international media pay a great deal of attention to the Vlaams Blok (Flemish Block) because of its many electoral victories. However, the image that they portray of our party is not always correct. Foreign journalists rarely understand Dutch: they get their information mostly from the Francophone Belgian media which tend to be hostile towards Flanders and the Flemings.

Flanders is generally portrayed in the Francophone press as a selfish, insular nation. Yet Flanders is heavily oriented towards other countries and cultures. The Port of Antwerp is of global importance. The Flemish are amongst the world's best polyglots, able to converse with English, French, German and, often, Spanish and Italian visitors in their own languages. No other region in the world exports so much per capita. Flanders' subsidisation of Wallonia is proportionally greater than the financial support given by the former West Germany to the former German Democratic Republic. The Francophone media often portray Flemings as "racists", yet "racist" Flanders is a favourite destination for genuine and self-styled "refugees" from across the world. The media image of Flemish nationalism and of the Vlaams Blok often does not reflect reality. We believe it is important that foreign observers of Belgian and Flemish politics receive a more accurate picture both of our party and of the Flemish patriotic movement in general.

http://vlaamsblok.be/index.shtml

yes Antwerp is on of the four corners of the diamond shaped diamond trade: tel aviv, johannesberg, antwerp, New York City.

Antiochus Epiphanes
March 31st, 2004, 04:24 PM
Flanders has had an infestation of Jews for a long time, and a book I have on Jewish history states that 1/10 of the Jews expelled by Edward Longshanks of England in 1290 fled to Flanders.

Derrick Beukeboom
March 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM
Nice to see an intelligent thread on the VNN relating to another nation-state.
I was in Belgium once. Best thing about the place is definitly the great Beers! At my local Whole Foods (which has a fine International Beer selection), the guy in charge of this section told me about a Beer that is one of the only Beers still currently brewed by Monks in a real Abbey.
It sells in individual bottles, a little smaller than the standard 12 oz cheap ass lagers so popular here in the US. It's not cheap, but labeled in a simple light brown paper with black writing on it - no fancy design.

It's supposed to be a real treat.
Anyway, I'm not as keen on "Belgian" history as some of you, but wasn't it Ceaser who coined the area after his legions encountered a fierce tribe called the Belgae??
Ceaser remarks that these original "Belgians" were of Celtic stock and sometimes mixed with some of the Germanic tribes who lived around the area of present day Frisian Islands. Nice combo.

I do know that 19th century Europe was fucked up by the inbred royal families constantly scheming and jewing the people to stay in power and that the creation of the artificial nation-state of Belgium was done to keep some sort of peace and/or alliance between England and France.
Not exactly sure though.

At least other nation-states joined based on national language or common ethnic ancestry. Belgium was created I think due of course to the Christian assholes who actually took this fairy tale to heart. They stuck the French speaking Walloons and the Dutch speaking Flemish together because they were all Catholics. At that time (1830s'), the Netherlands was mostly Protestant and only the very south had the Catholics (hence the inclusion of Flanders in "Belgium"). Keep in mind that the royal assholes were divided between pope worshiping Catholic cunts and faggot fudge packing Protestants.
Mix all of this shit together and wham: you get a nice sweet cake of a country now known as "Belgium".

Yet, the riots and fighting between the 2 language groups now must take a backseat to an even bigger problem - the brown skinned invasion of non european shitskins. mostly muslim scum from Morrocco, Tunisia and Turkey.
Plus, a good portion of coal black niggers from Ghana, Congo and other jungle hot spots.

Vlaams Blok would be my hope for a brighter and Whiter place.

Should really be 2 countries of Flanders and Walloonia. The Flemish are at least making an effort (not that the kikes and race traitors in the EU will let this happen). The Walloons are much more lazy and seem content living in the socliaized liberal welfare multiculti state of the artificial Belgium.

Let's here at the VNN give our warm support to Flemish independence.

Angle
March 31st, 2004, 07:45 PM
Of course many love to slander the British influence on European affairs during the time of the empire, but let us remember that it was Napoleon, and not the British, who fought for the conquest of Europe, and whom the Russians, Prussians, Germans, Austrians, Italians, Portuguese, and Spanish resisted with British help.

Agis
April 24th, 2004, 08:23 AM
The court added that the Blok's rhetoric was clearly based on race rather than nationality as it also called for 'foreigners' from families that had been legally living in Belgium for two or three generations to be ‘sent home.’"

White leader and president of Vlaams Blok, Frank Vanhecke, condemned the court's ruling and said he was planning an appeal. The ruling is also likely to deprive the pro-White party of around EUR 4 million a year of state funding. Pro-White political parties are not allowed to receive handouts from state coffers in Belgium.

In Dutch-speaking Flanders, the pro-White party, which would like to see Flanders become an independent state, is a major political force. In last year's parliamentary elections it won nearly 18 percent of the vote in Flanders. In 2000, 33 percent of voters supported it in municipal polls in Antwerp, the region's largest city.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2713

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That's DEMOCRACY for ya!

Jim
July 12th, 2004, 03:45 AM
My 1st time in Brussels was in the Autumn of ’84. I stopped at a restaurant and ate my life’s 1st salad with the bugs still in it. Some important looking older dude wearing a suit and tie stood around and gave the impression that he was the owner or something. As we drove thru the countryside all we saw were amateurish homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them, a term similar to French Fries or fried objects. I thought that I was in the Canada of Europe.
It's obvious that false memories of "Belgium" have been implanted into your brain by the NWO, this is actually a common occurrence. Tourists, business travelers, and other visitors are allowed to "come" to the "country" in order to "witness" its "existence." In reality, these people are waylaid at the common borders of Germany, France, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg and taken to NWO branch facilities where they have false memories of vast sprout fields, homemade signs with “Fritters” written on them and chocolate factory tours implanted. All flights claiming to be destined for Belgium in fact land at a secret NWO airfield in Luxembourg after their passengers have been sleep-gassed. Also, windows in planes flying over the area Belgium should be have been replaced with ultra-high definition plasma screens to further the illusion.

MrOutis
July 12th, 2004, 06:40 AM
"Belgium has existed essentially in its present form since
1830, when an uprising led to independence from The
Netherlands. The country's name goes back to a Celtic
tribe, the Belgae, whom Julius Caesar described as the most
courageous tribe in all of Gaul. The Belgae were
overwhelmed, however, by Caesar's legions around 50 BC, and
for 300 years the area was a Roman province."

Did the NWO create the Belgæ, too? was Caesar a fabulist in the pocket of Jewish oligarchs?

MOMUS
July 12th, 2004, 06:55 AM
I think it's wonderful that a clever fellow like you should set out to prove the existance of Belgium. Endeavor to persevere.
You owe it to the poor Belgians, those who survived being eaten by the Hun in WWII.

"Belgium has existed essentially in its present form since1830, when an uprising led to independence from The
Netherlands. The country's name goes back to a Celtic
tribe, the Belgae, whom Julius Caesar described as the most
courageous tribe in all of Gaul. The Belgae were
overwhelmed, however, by Caesar's legions around 50 BC, and
for 300 years the area was a Roman province."

Did the NWO create the Belgæ, too? was Caesar a fabulist in the pocket of Jewish oligarchs?

Kind Lampshade Maker
July 15th, 2004, 08:42 AM
It's obvious that false memories of "Belgium" have been implanted into your brain by the NWO........... further the illusion.

Well, the fact that at that time, we’ve crossed the border by way of motorcar, implies that the brainwashing was performed at the restaurant in Brussels. Don’t forget, the event took place in 1984, a time when ultra high definition plasma screens were not yet placed on passenger aircraft. Exceptions to this rule came about later for incoming flights to Hong Kong, in which case, the pilots’ windscreens were exchanged with these UHDPS because navigation to Hong Kong was otherwise extremely dangerous. In otherwords, extremely poor visibility and altitude adjustments, due to high mountain overpasses, traditionally required many hours of flight simulator training, before such windscreens began appearing on these planes to replace otherwise, near blind flight.
No, our brainwashing began with the ingestion of those buggy salads presided over by that important looking dude who wore the monkey suit. We later were briefed that he was a Mossad agent, during our eventual de-programming. He made sure that we ate the salad without passing it through a fine mincing meat grinder which would have destroyed those devices which were made to look and taste like real bugs or to manually remove these imposter bugs using ordinary tweezers.
What puzzles me is to what extend the NWO bothered conducting research into developing a device seasoner which successfully reproduced the flavor of a broad range of bugs and how much the tax payer eventually had to fork out for such research which was soon to be rendered obsolete through the invention of the UHDPS :confused:

Der kleine Doktor
July 17th, 2004, 10:20 PM
[QUOTE=Gott]But Leon Degrelle thought of himself as a true Belgian, and never sought to detach Walloonia from the rest of the country. He was intent upon seeing Belgium remain a valid, independent entity in a new united Europe under Germany. His SS division was called Walloonia though, not Belge...[QUOTE]

Well, it was actually called "SS Wallonien" as far as the SS Panzer Divisions go or Légion Wallonie. I have a bit of Belgian in me and the last name is French or Wallonian. I hear there is an actual Wallonian language and it is pretty odd looking. It has Dutch in it slightly and a bunch of words that seem not to connect to either French or Dutch. If I find out were this one relative of mine is from that could determine if there is a Walloon/Vlaanderen mix. Wallonia also has a party: http://www.NATION.be

Dasyurus Maculatus
July 21st, 2004, 07:49 AM
My own lasting recollection of Belgium was oodles of Dog Turds on every square meter of bleak pedestrian space, Chips, and news about Marc DuTroux -Belgian child molester.

I am pleased that my application for a job near the grey EU complex , a concrete monolith surrounded by sea of dog turds, was turned down.

Belgium is symbolised by the 'Atomium' a space-age structure built for a 1960? exhibition, long past its sell-by date but strangely fitting in well with the bleak grey landscape, dotted by dog turds from Fifi the incontinent poodle and the millions of North Africans squatting in Brussels who have set up 'no-go areas' for European people.

:mad:

aryan88angel
July 21st, 2004, 02:43 PM
I live in Holland, my boyfriend lives in Belgium so i'm there allmost every week. I like belgium except Antwerpen, everywhere you look are Jewisch people...

Oh and Hoegaarden isn't the finest beer of Belgium, if you realy whant nice beer you should get Jupiler

Kind Lampshade Maker
August 20th, 2004, 09:08 AM
I live in Holland, my boyfriend lives in Belgium so i'm there allmost every week. I like belgium except Antwerpen, everywhere you look are Jewisch people...

Primarily in one section. Especially where diamonds are cut.
I drove from Holland to Belgium on the way back, at the tail end of my vacation. As Holland seemed orderly and clean in comparison, though muddy, Antwerp is an even more Turd Wörld cesspool than during the last time I was there, several years ago. Subs represented an overproportionate clientel (as in the penal system), compared to the indegenous, in the red light district which is similar to Amsterdamn’s but with outdoor pissoir-spunkoirs, as in Paris.
Unfortunately #2, there are a greater variety of on-tap Belgian beers to be found in watering holes outside Belgium than within which forced me to go bar-hopping.
The guy I was talking to in the 1st bar acnowledged the social problems in Belgium and confirmed the national-separatist movement there. I told him that Belgian beer was making life there wörth living. He agreed and became somewhat unintelligible at his 4th beer after my debut. The bar owner was a notoriopus Fag but wasn’t Tiny Timlike swishy. He did a gööd job holding it back, but was wearing an expensive 24 carat gold earing in his right earlobe and numerous likewise quality chains around it’s wrist and neck. I wanted to ask it if it’s favorite color was gold and claim that if bandits appeared to empty the cash register, they would take him away instead. I held back on my irreverant and absurd humor which reflects the society I live in. Instead, I drank my Belgian beer in pink Floyd style quiet desparation, left, töök the streetcar to the center of town and lööked for a place where the Vlaams Blok was likely to congregate while dodging all manners of dog shit in various shapes, colors and sizes

STORMSOLDAAT
September 1st, 2004, 04:33 AM
Belgium is a strange corrupt where the Flemish make most of the money and the Wallonian politicians steal it and have done for hundreds of years.

It is a nation of unequals. The Dutch-Flemish are the majority and have the most wealth but have less power than the French-Wallonians, this unfair situation has gone on for as I have said hundreds of years.

It has only been due to the brave efforts (sweat, blood and tiers) of Flemish nationalists like VB, Voorpost & the (long banned) V.M.O. that the situation is starting to now change in favour of the Flemish.

The early pro NS/Nationalist organizations in Flanders had no government support and were repressed every step of the way in the struggle for self rule and equal rights, sound familiar?

Any Flemish/Dutch nationalists please PM me, it would be nice to hear from you.

Der kleine Doktor
September 1st, 2004, 04:40 AM
Belgium is a strange corrupt where the Flemish make most of the money and the Wallonian politicians steal it and have done for hundreds of years.

It is a nation of unequals. The Dutch-Flemish are the majority and have the most wealth but have less power than the French-Wallonians, this unfair situation has gone on for as I have said hundreds of years.

It has only been due to the brave efforts (sweat, blood and tiers) of Flemish nationalists like VB, Voorpost & the (long banned) V.M.O. that the situation is starting to now change in favour of the Flemish.

The early pro NS/Nationalist organizations in Flanders had no government support and were repressed every step of the way in the struggle for self rule and equal rights, sound familiar?

Any Flemish/Dutch nationalists please PM me, it would be nice to hear from you.
I do not know why you are against Wallonians when your country has an Arab problem right now. It cannot be Vlaams Blok vs. NATION. NATION is a good political party as well as the Flemish Bloc. Arabs are the biggest threat to Europe right now. You realize the Islamic plague is trying to claim Jihad and take over the entire world. There should be no pro-Arab Europeans. They might kill Jews, but also European folk. As of late they have only been caring about killing Europeans/European-Americans. I am not arguing with you kameraad. I am just letting you know that Europe against Europe is an extremely bad idea.

STORMSOLDAAT
September 1st, 2004, 04:46 AM
Should really be 2 countries of Flanders and Walloonia. The Flemish are at least making an effort (not that the kikes and race traitors in the EU will let this happen). The Walloons are much more lazy and seem content living in the socliaized liberal welfare multiculti state of the artificial Belgium.

Let's here at the VNN give our warm support to Flemish independence.

The main reason that the small number of wallonians nationalists are making little effort to break free from the belgian state is becasue they benifit most from it, this has always been the case!

The French-Wallonians are happy to sit back and bleed the Dutch-Flemish people dry, as you say while reaping all the benifits the belgian state has to offer them.

Der kleine Doktor
September 1st, 2004, 04:53 AM
The main reason that the small number of wallonians nationalists are making little effort to break free from the belgian state is becasue they benifit most from it, this has always been the case!

The French-Wallonians are happy to sit back and bleed the Dutch-Flemish people dry, as you say while reaping all the benifits the belgian state has to offer them.
You fail to mention "The Moroccan Problem" I told you that worrying about Wallonians is stupid compared to the Muslim pieces of shit. As you keep that thought there will be more Muslims in your country than Flemish and Wallonians. Why, look at England and France. It is hard to say they are European nations anymore. I have heard Karlsruhe in Deutschland has all Negroes. It is Negroish to fight against another European.

STORMSOLDAAT
September 1st, 2004, 04:54 AM
I do not know why you are against Wallonians when your country has an Arab problem right now. It cannot be Vlaams Blok vs. NATION. NATION is a good political party as well as the Flemish Bloc. Arabs are the biggest threat to Europe right now. You realize the Islamic plague is trying to claim Jihad and take over the entire world. There should be no pro-Arab Europeans. They might kill Jews, but also European folk. As of late they have only been caring about killing Europeans/European-Americans. I am not arguing with you kameraad. I am just letting you know that Europe against Europe is an extremely bad idea.

Good morning Comrade,

In Europe things are not that easy. The Flemish people do not hate the Wallonians, they just do not want to carry the Wallonians and the belgian state any more.

The Flemish want to be Free from the chains of the Belgian state and form there own Nation. What is wrong with that?

A Flemish Nation would be the most strongly nationalist nation in Europe, due to its main asset The Flemish People!

Der kleine Doktor
September 1st, 2004, 05:14 AM
Good morning Comrade,

In Europe things are not that easy. The Flemish people do not hate the Wallonians, they just do not want to carry the Wallonians and the belgian state any more.

The Flemish want to be Free from the chains of the Belgian state and form there own Nation. What is wrong with that?

A Flemish Nation would be the most strongly nationalist nation in Europe, due to its main asset The Flemish People!
I see what you mean, like Canada/Quebec,N.Ireland/Ireland, and even Spain has people of Catalonia that want to separate. That is harmful though to win the Kulturkampf because you are furthering yourself away from Wallonians, yet Northern French and Dutch are closely related racially. The language barrier is might what gets you angry at each other. I have the smallest amont of Belgian in me and that is why I started participating in this thread. It is like one relative worth lol.

STORMSOLDAAT
September 1st, 2004, 05:44 AM
I see what you mean, like Canada/Quebec,N.Ireland/Ireland, and even Spain has people of Catalonia that want to separate. That is harmful though to win the Kulturkampf because you are furthering yourself away from Wallonians, yet Northern French and Dutch are closely related racially. The language barrier is might what gets you angry at each other. I have the smallest amont of Belgian in me and that is why I started participating in this thread. It is like one relative worth lol.

As I have stated the breakup of the currupt belgian state is not an anti-Wallonian move but a pro Flemish move. The Wallonians hardly have a nationalist movement anyway and are far more liberal, let them choose their own way the Flemish people can not carry them forever! Its time they stood on their own feet rather than sitting on the back of the Flemish.

We want a Europe of Nations, a union of Nations but not a Europe like America (one big nation). Europeans are not the same FACT: look at a typical greek and at a typical German (its not just because of the amount of sun that they look totally different), we different racial backgrounds and cultures. We also have links and reasons to stand together on many issues in all our interests, such as on immergration.

As for the racial link with the wallonians, yes there are some common roots, both have Germanic-Frankish origin but the Flemish are Generally fairer (more Nordic looking) than the Wallonians.

Where abouts do your Ansestors come from? Are they Flemish or Wallonian?

There are loads of Kool Flemish sites about the early pro-NS movement and the idea of a union with the Netherlands = Dietsland if you are of Flemish decent you may be interested to learn more about your people and their struggle. ;)

Let me know and I will send you the link, almost all are in Dutch. I may have some links to sites that are in English.

Der kleine Doktor
September 1st, 2004, 05:55 AM
As I have stated the breakup of the currupt belgian state is not an anti-Wallonian move but a pro Flemish move. The Wallonians hardly have a nationalist movement anyway and are far more liberal, let them choose their own way the Flemish people can not carry them forever! Its time they stood on their own feet rather than sitting on the back of the Flemish.

We want a Europe of Nations, a union of Nations but not a Europe like America (one big nation). Europeans are not the same FACT: look at a typical greek and at a typical German (its not just because of the amount of sun that they look totally different), we different racial backgrounds and cultures. We also have links and reasons to stand together on many issues in all our interests, such as on immergration.

As for the racial link with the wallonians, yes there are some common roots, both have Germanic-Frankish origin but the Flemish are Generally fairer (more Nordic looking) than the Wallonians.

Where abouts do your Ansestors come from? Are they Flemish or Wallonian?

There are loads of Kool Flemish sites about the early pro-NS movement and the idea of a union with the Netherlands = Dietsland if you are of Flemish decent you may be interested to learn more about your people and their struggle. ;)

Let me know and I will send you the link, almost all are in Dutch. I may have some links to sites that are in English.
Yeah I understand, but the minority is the biggest issue. Well, it is only one person in my family was saying so not much, but Wallonian. I must find out where from though because that will determine if person could be Flemish/Wallonian vice versa.Maybe only Wallonian. I have respect for both parts of Belgium. I understand Dutch a little bit from German knowledge.Ik spreek niet Nederland. I just know many Dutch words, in fact, many European words.

STORMSOLDAAT
September 1st, 2004, 09:23 AM
Yeah I understand, but the minority is the biggest issue. Well, it is only one person in my family was saying so not much, but Wallonian. I must find out where from though because that will determine if person could be Flemish/Wallonian vice versa.Maybe only Wallonian. I have respect for both parts of Belgium. I understand Dutch a little bit from German knowledge.Ik spreek niet Nederland. I just know many Dutch words, in fact, many European words.

The Wallonians & Flemish have never mixed much in recent history although they both have Germanic roots to a greater or lesser extent and share a great deal of historical experiences (not all good for the Flemish).

The racial differances between REAL Europeans are often a good thing, it would not do for everyone in Europe to be the same, things could be very boring... but I must add I would not be infavor of a typical dark Greek marrying a fair Germanic more than I would if they married a Turk or a jew, mixing with dark europeans means darker children and the ever closer destruction of our Germanic stock forever.

All race mixing damages our stock and as you have mentioned all Europe is being swamped & tainted by the Southlanders and are main aim must be to stop their take over, the Flemish can do this far quicker in Flanders without the wallonians who are far too liberal as a people and only hold the Flemish people back.

heaven above
September 25th, 2004, 10:15 PM
I live in Holland, my boyfriend lives in Belgium so i'm there allmost every week. I like belgium except Antwerpen, everywhere you look are Jewisch people...

Oh and Hoegaarden isn't the finest beer of Belgium, if you realy whant nice beer you should get Jupiler

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Yes, JUPITER beer is very good stuff ! ;)

Kind Lampshade Maker
September 26th, 2004, 04:10 PM
You fail to mention "The Moroccan Problem" I told you that worrying about Wallonians is stupid compared to the Muslim pieces of shit. .......
.....The French-Wallonians are happy to sit back and bleed the Dutch-Flemish people dry, as you say while reaping all the benifits the belgian state has to offer them.
Liberals are soft. In Walloon’s case, their decadence is the result of being spoiled by the life-long subsidy allowance taken from the Flemish pocket. As we see in Nordrhein-Westfalen’s communal election results, the WN parties collected fewer votes in the spoiled, affluent regions. The nationalist incentive in Walloon is also weakened for this same reason.
A Flemish citizen goes to work to support his/her own family and also an entire Wallonian family. When the Wallons start surviving on their own, they too will learn what it’s like to go to work to support their own family at the same time a Turkish or Morrocan family of 9 persons.
The best solution would be to return Walloon to France and to return Flanders to the Netherlands, as it was in the early 1800’s

STORMSOLDAAT
September 26th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Liberals are soft. In Walloon’s case, their decadence is the result of being spoiled by the life-long subsidy allowance taken from the Flemish pocket. As we see in Nordrhein-Westfalen’s communal election results, the WN parties collected fewer votes in the spoiled, affluent regions. The nationalist incentive in Walloon is also weakened for this same reason.
A Flemish citizen goes to work to support his/her own family and also an entire Wallonian family. When the Wallons start surviving on their own, they too will learn what it’s like to go to work to support their own family at the same time a Turkish or Morrocan family of 9 persons.
The best solution would be to return Walloon to France and to return Flanders to the Netherlands, as it was in the early 1800’s

Totaly correct Comrade, the Flemish money has made the Wallonians fat and lazy. The Flemish have fire in their bellies because they are the ones that have been doing the work for generations. Wealth and an easy life as you rightly said makes people weak and self centred.

The Flemish had had to fight hard for what they have, even for the right to speak their own language, the French Wallonians got all the rights given at birth.

When Flanders breaks away the Wallonians will have to get off their fat arses and have to do pay for the immergrants, it will be nice to see the Wallonians treated as second class in their own country (they will learn what it's like) then they will have to start to fight back or die, like the Flemish have been doing for generations.

The dream of a Union of Flanders & the Netherlands = Dietsland is an old dream last seen in the days of William of Orange, I hope to see that day in my lifetime.

THe colors for the Dietsland Flag are Orange/White & Blue the old colors used by the NSB. The black lion of Flanders is often placed in the centre to show the union.

Hail Victory! Dietsland Ontwaak! (Dietsland Awake!)

Kind Lampshade Maker
September 7th, 2005, 05:03 PM
"...But she urgently needed to relieve herself and crouched down between two gravestones. As she lost her balance, she grabbed one of the stones which gave way and landed on top of her...:box:
"http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/07/belgium.cemetery.reut/index.html

Where else but in Belgium :eek:

Ghetto-Blaster
September 7th, 2005, 07:42 PM
But Leon Degrelle thought of himself as a true Belgian, and never sought to detach Walloonia from the rest of the country. He was intent upon seeing Belgium remain a valid, independent entity in a new united Europe under Germany. His SS division was called Walloonia though, not Belge...
The Flemish had their own SS division, the SS-Freiwilligen Legion Flandern.

Kind Lampshade Maker
December 19th, 2008, 08:00 PM
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12724966

...In the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek, where the dominant culture is that of Morocco, a circular from the district authorities reminds residents not to kill animals at home. It invites them to a “temporary abattoir” that will function for 48 hours in a council garage. Molenbeek is one of four areas of Brussels which have set up makeshift slaughterhouses, each with a capacity of at least 500 sheep. In practice, home killing is hard to stop, despite vows by the city authorities to prosecute offenders...

http://media.economist.com/images/20081206/4908IR1.jpg

Kind Lampshade Maker
January 2nd, 2009, 06:38 PM
http://dinahlord.typepad.com/dinah_lord/2009/01/belgium-police-find-muslim-hit-list-of-prominent-jews.html

...The hit list mentioned the names of five other well-know Jewish figures in Belgium and France: Josy Eisenberg, producer of the A Bible ouverte (Open Bible) television program on FR2; Simone Susskind, a leader of Belgium's secular Jewish community; attorney Markus Pardes, president of the International Association of Jewish lawyers and jurists; Belgian writer Jean-Claude Bologne and La Derniere Heure reporter Edmond Blattche...

Bassanio
January 2nd, 2009, 06:48 PM
Police find Muslim hit list of prominent jews


Strange how kwaps worldwide prove to be so astute and competent when it comes to finding these "hit lists" and would-be terrorists, yet they seem completely powerless to stop shitskins from scamming benefits, looting, torching cars, raping and murdering.

Hugo Böse
January 2nd, 2009, 08:34 PM
Strange how kwaps worldwide prove to be so astute and competent when it comes to finding these "hit lists" and would-be terrorists, yet they seem completely powerless to stop shitskins from scamming benefits, looting, torching cars, raping and murdering.
I know exactly what you mean, the system probably sets up some convenient idiots that they have been watching for a while or that they have infiltrated and when the need arises they bust these guys and vastly exaggerate how dangerous they were.

Kind Lampshade Maker
January 24th, 2009, 05:24 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7846815.stm

...The prosecutor said the man's face had been smeared with a white colouring but his eyes had been blackened...

More:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2167144.ece?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

...A police officer confirmed: “He had his face painted like Heath Ledger playing The Joker.”...

http://pix.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/20/448753/180x180_Lgp0ZHK3I5.jpeg

Mike Jahn
January 24th, 2009, 12:33 PM
The best solution would be to return Walloon to France and to return Flanders to the Netherlands, as it was in the early 1800’s

Excellent idea..

Tulpar
February 20th, 2009, 10:58 PM
Your statements are valid...The Belgian Walloons naturally belong with France and the Belgian Flemish belong with Holland...it is a very thrown together country.

This probably explains why one part of Belgium is as lib:tard:ed as your typical french and the other part is relatively more racialist.

Antiochus Epiphanes
February 23rd, 2009, 10:57 AM
This probably explains why one part of Belgium is as lib:tard:ed as your typical french and the other part is relatively more racialist.

I doubt Leon Degrelle would have seen Walloons as Libtards.

Kind Lampshade Maker
June 21st, 2009, 06:23 PM
http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i490/175250.057ssbelgienea3pn8.jpg

Enemy_of_Juden
July 10th, 2009, 02:39 PM
The U.S.S.R. collapsed, Czechoslovakia split, Yugoslavia split. Now it is Belgium's turn. Neither the Flemish nor the Walloons deserve to live among shit-skin, sub-human rag-heads, niggers and whatever 'enriching' elements live among them. I hope that in the future they kick out all the non-Whites, the Jews & the race-mixers.

Europe for the Whites only!