View Full Version : Nick Griffin Is Free - A Great Day for Our People
albion
February 2nd, 2006, 11:51 AM
Word has just arrived from his trial in Leeds, England, that British National Party Chairman Nick Griffin has been acquitted of each of the bogus charges brought against him by the corrupt British government now in power.
A great day for our people!
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BNP Leader, Griffin, has been cleared of two race hate charges and Mark Collett was also found not guilty on four similar offences. Jury discharged for being unable to reach a verdict on the remaining two offences in Griffins case and the remaining four charges against Collett.
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James Hawthorne
February 2nd, 2006, 11:52 AM
NOT GUILTY !
THINGS ARE CHANGING IN GREAT BRITAIN !!!!
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Mark Collett and Nick Griffin may face a retrial
A jury at Leeds Crown Court has cleared BNP leader Nick Griffin of two racial hatred charges and BNP activist Mark Collett of four others.
The jury was discharged after failing to reach verdicts on the remaining charges - four against Mr Collett and two against Mr Griffin.
Mr Griffin, 44, and Mr Collett, 24, had denied using words intended to stir up hatred in West Yorkshire in 2004.
Mr Griffin said the verdicts were a "tremendous victory for freedom".
Their six speeches were filmed by an undercover BBC journalist for a documentary on the BNP.
After the jury was discharged, prosecutor Rodney Jameson QC said: "In principal we intend to seek a retrial on outstanding counts."
But he told the court he had not had specific instructions to that effect.
A date will be set within the next few weeks when a decision on any retrial will be made.
Mr Griffin told supporters outside the court that the verdicts were a "fantastic day for the people of this country".
'Persecute us'
"This evening millions of people in Britain will be holding their heads a little higher and walking a little taller.
"The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will now have to go and decide whether they want to do it all over again.
"If the CPS feel they must continue to persecute us simply for telling the truth then we will see them in court."
Mr Griffin, of Llanerfyl, Powys, had denied two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred and two alternative charges of using words or behaviour likely to stir up racial hatred.
'Vicious faith'
Mr Collett, of Rothley, Leicestershire, denied eight similar charges.
The four charges he was acquitted of relate to speeches made at The Royal pub in Pudsey and another at the Falconer's Rest pub in Morley, in which he described asylum seekers as "a little bit like cockroaches".
In other speeches, Mr Griffin calls Islam a "wicked vicious faith" and Mr Collett says "let's show these ethnics the door in 2004".
But during the two-week trial, the defendants told the jury they were engaging in legitimate political dialogue about issues which concern ordinary working people.
Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4672792.stm)
Rob Roy MacGregor
February 2nd, 2006, 11:57 AM
HOORAY!!! :cheers:
Devere
February 2nd, 2006, 12:01 PM
What will be the reverberations from this free stone dropped into the muddy waters of Great Britain? We will watch and wait expectantly.
Will the stone just disappear into the muddy depths and leave not a ripple behind?
Quietus
February 2nd, 2006, 12:02 PM
Excellent news! :cheers:
James Hawthorne
February 2nd, 2006, 12:59 PM
What will be the reverberations from this free stone dropped into the muddy waters of Great Britain? We will watch and wait expectantly.
Will the stone just disappear into the muddy depths and leave not a ripple behind?
Years ago Devere it would of been certain that they would of been sent to prison for six months plus. However something is stirring in the hearts and minds of the British people, this is shown by the growth of the British National Party. The stone will not dissappear into the muddy waters, something is happening under the surface. However this may make the state redouble its efforts to smash the BNP and any resistance to the multi cult.
Stay tuned - it just got interesting !
Aryan Lord
February 2nd, 2006, 01:12 PM
Word has just arrived from his trial in Leeds, England, that British National Party Chairman Nick Griffin has been acquitted of each of the bogus charges brought against him by the corrupt British government now in power.
A great day for our people!
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BNP Leader, Griffin, has been cleared of two race hate charges and Mark Collett was also found not guilty on four similar offences. Jury discharged for being unable to reach a verdict on the remaining two offences in Griffins case and the remaining four charges against Collett.
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A victory for common sense and a nail in the coffin of Political Correctness.
Schnee Weiss
February 2nd, 2006, 02:52 PM
Mark Collett and Nick Griffin may face a retrial
Why do they have to preface the article with that?! What..if at first you don't succeed, try, try again? I love how these people don't like the answer they get in a COURT OF LAW, and because they weren't found guilty, they want to try them again?
I'm happy for the way things turned out today, and I truly hope our friends across the pond are waking up, but this kind of Jew crap really irks me.
Harry Flash
February 2nd, 2006, 07:31 PM
A great day for our people? You're living in la la land. More like a great day for ZOG
ZOG will take this result as proof that there is not enough 'anti-racist' legislation in GB - and will move to fix up the matter accordingly.
SSHollett
February 2nd, 2006, 08:22 PM
ZOG will take this result as proof that there is not enough 'anti-racist' legislation in GB - and will move to fix up the matter accordingly.
Or it could represent a glimmer of hope that ZOG is losing some of its influence.
Slightly off topic; does anyone know what the BNP's stance on guns is? I've looked on their site for info, but I've found nothing.
brutus
February 2nd, 2006, 09:14 PM
Mark Collett and Nick Griffin may face a retrial
I used to believe in the judicial system of the western countries. Not anymore.
I wonder why some of you guys still do? How insane does it have to get, before you let go of the illusion that there is any justice for White men in the courts?
I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, and in such a blunt fashion.
It's all a sham, a production, a jew vaudeville skit disguised as a judicial proceeding with propaganda as it’s sole purpose. The White man is there only as a prop.
Nick and Mark would be wise to leave the country immediately and seek asylum in a country that wouldn’t extradite them back to England for the next show trial.
Harry Flash
February 2nd, 2006, 10:57 PM
Or it could represent a glimmer of hope that ZOG is losing some of its influence.
Blair's ZOG is losing influence in terms of being able to sell people the ideals of multiracialism. But by being let off, it only gives the green light to ZOG to impose more draconian "anti-race" legislation. Either way, Griffin is still a dead-man walking.
Albion just sounds like another BNP hack who is celebrating that the system appears to be working afterall.
James Hawthorne
February 3rd, 2006, 12:14 AM
Blair's ZOG is losing influence in terms of being able to sell people the ideals of multiracialism. But by being let off, it only gives the green light to ZOG to impose more draconian "anti-race" legislation. Either way, Griffin is still a dead-man walking.
Albion just sounds like another BNP hack who is celebrating that the system appears to be working afterall.
Thats not fair .. Albion has a right to his or her views on this subject. If he or she is a member BNP it is of no matter. I'm a full blown National Socialist, I speak as a National Socialist ( see our internet radio programme ).
The time is here to stop attacking fellow patriots, White nationalists, National Socialists, lets keep a focus and attack the Jew and the multi cult.
Harry Flash
February 3rd, 2006, 01:13 AM
The time is here to stop attacking fellow patriots, White nationalists, National Socialists, lets keep a focus and attack the Jew and the multi cult.
Is that right Hawthorne... Perhaps while we're on the subject of keeping "a focus and attack the Jew and the multi cult" perhaps you'd also like to comment on Nick Griffin's proud Jewish BNP councillor.
DON'T lecture me about "fellow patriots" pal. You'll only end up looking like a fuckwit. You're not the first NSist who thinks that somehow with the BNP we are all in this together. And I daresay you probably won't be the last.
James Hawthorne
February 3rd, 2006, 03:37 AM
Is that right Hawthorne... Perhaps while we're on the subject of keeping "a focus and attack the Jew and the multi cult" perhaps you'd also like to comment on Nick Griffin's proud Jewish BNP councillor.
DON'T lecture me about "fellow patriots" pal. You'll only end up looking like a fuckwit. You're not the first NSist who thinks that somehow with the BNP we are all in this together. And I daresay you probably won't be the last.
No .. I agree to what you say above. I know full well the Jew Feldman... however - overall I feel it is wrong to attack fellow White Nationalists and National Socialists.
The Feldman situation should be resolved I agree !
Tune in to two new Aryan Matters (http://www.aryanmatters.com) programmes - up and coming !
Abzug Hoffman
February 3rd, 2006, 05:18 AM
It's good but it would be better if Griffin wasn't an Ashkenazi who got off for insulting Muslims. This isn't the same thing as if an Englishman got off for insulting jews or the darlings of multicult.
He's probably a fag, too. Where's his wife and kids on this happy day?
Death to Zionism!
aussieboy
February 3rd, 2006, 08:39 AM
It's good but it would be better if Griffin wasn't an Ashkenazi who got off for insulting Muslims. This isn't the same thing as if an Englishman got off for insulting jews or the darlings of multicult.
He's probably a fag, too. Where's his wife and kids on this happy day?
Death to Zionism!
O dear.
If you had been watching BNP-tv, downloaded each day from their site, you would have seen Griffin talk about his 4 kids, and 3 daughters. His wife was also mentioned as being in court.
Why do you think Griffin is an ashkenazi jew? Where did you get that idea?
Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2006, 09:09 AM
Why do they have to preface the article with that?! What..if at first you don't succeed, try, try again? I love how these people don't like the answer they get in a COURT OF LAW, and because they weren't found guilty, they want to try them again?
I'm happy for the way things turned out today, and I truly hope our friends across the pond are waking up, but this kind of Jew crap really irks me.
I guess that's one of the tyrranical prerogatives of the Crown that the American forefathers fought to free themselves from, which is prohibited in our consitution: called "double jeopardy."
Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2006, 09:11 AM
Blair's ZOG is losing influence in terms of being able to sell people the ideals of multiracialism. But by being let off, it only gives the green light to ZOG to impose more draconian "anti-race" legislation. Either way, Griffin is still a dead-man walking.
Albion just sounds like another BNP hack who is celebrating that the system appears to be working afterall.
No, I am guessing he is an American. American WNs do not know Griffin as you gents do, warts and all, and generally take him to be a credible leader of the nationalists in England.
At SF I understand that criticism of Griffin is offlimits. Here, it isnt.
Still, it's nice to see the fellows get off from these charges which are per se, unjust.
Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2006, 09:14 AM
It's good but it would be better if Griffin wasn't an Ashkenazi who got off for insulting Muslims. This isn't the same thing as if an Englishman got off for insulting jews or the darlings of multicult.
He's probably a fag, too. Where's his wife and kids on this happy day?
Death to Zionism!
Re: That he is bisexual:
We have heard much anecdotal evidence of this from people fairly "close" to Mr Griffen, as SCN has noted.
Re: That he is a Jew?
Your evidence that he is a Jew? As usual you have none. Have you ever heard of the "Abzug rule?"
Antiochus Epiphanes
February 3rd, 2006, 09:15 AM
........What the old poofter was being prosecuted for was calling Islam an evil religion, which is no real crime surely. Had the undercover reporters entrapped him naming the Jew he would have been behind bars already, but he NEVER names the Jew.
Had Griffin been found guilty and sentenced on the charges he faced yesterday, real white nationalists all over Great Britain would be waiting for that knock on the door......
Read that again folks from our man in England who knows the lay of the land!
varus
February 3rd, 2006, 11:31 AM
Comerades ,the English were disarmed a long time ago ,you will find no mention of guns on the web site ,as possession carries a sentence of around 10 years, unless you are black ,in which case you are just a naughty boy,the solicitor general must now decide wether to stage a retrial,the code napoleon is being introduced in place of English common law ,so there goes the rule of double jeopardy , as under it one is guilty until proven innocent and one can be tried until the desired verdict is obtained,how ever many times it takes.
Friends if we had guns , do you think for one moment that we would allow this situation to arise ,let alone flourish in England?
sambodelicious
February 3rd, 2006, 05:32 PM
Friends if we had guns , do you think for one moment that we would allow this situation to arise ,let alone flourish in England?
Yes.
Kwans are armed to the teeth. Nothing changes. For now.
Abzug Hoffman
February 3rd, 2006, 06:15 PM
Re: That he is bisexual:
We have heard much anecdotal evidence of this from people fairly "close" to Mr Griffen, as SCN has noted.
Re: That he is a Jew?
Your evidence that he is a Jew? As usual you have none. Have you ever heard of the "Abzug rule?"
Have you ever heard of Professor Jacques Pluss? Yet you still have the effrontery to talk to me about the "Abzug rule"???
Here's a much more spicy version of what Griffin said than the few remarks about evil religion reported in America.
The Secret Agent
In recent years the British National Party has always denied that it's a fundamentally racist organisation.
But in a new BBC documentary - The Secret Agent - a BBC reporter went undercover to infiltrate the BNP in the north west of England. What he captured on camera in secret filming is simply shocking: BNP activists fantasising about attacking mosques with rockets and Muslims with guns; and a speech from the current BNP Chairman Nick Griffin in which he boasts that his words could lead to seven years in prison if made public.
The BNP has responded to the allegations by expelling two members.
Jackie Long looked at what the secret filming revealed.
Watch the report
STUART WILLIAMS
(Council candidate, BNP)
Shoot Pakis. That's all I want to do is shoot Pakis.
ANDY
Listen ...You can't fucking do this, if you're going to be a Councillor you can't talk fucking nonsense.
JASON GWYNNE
You can't stand up in the chamber and say that can you?
WILLIAMS
No but I can look at them and think you'll be dead soon you c***.
NICK GRIFFIN
(Chairman, BNP)
... then you've got to stand up and do something for the British National Party because otherwise they will do for someone in your family. That is the truth.
GWYNNE
You put some shit through their letter box?
MIDGLEY
Yeah loads of it - kept doing it weeks on end.
GWYNNE
What did you put it through with?
MIDGLEY
You know those kids squirty guns with pump action? I went down to the park with all the dog bins, got a bucket emptied them all, went down to Park Lane washed it all around, sucked it up.
GWYNNE
And shoved it through the letter box?
MIDGLEY
Yeah, worked a treat.
JACKIE LONG
So, party leaflets were not the only thing BNP candidate Dave Midgley was putting through the doors in the run-up to the local and European elections this year. This admission of racially aggravated harassment is one of a series of astonishing revelations made by BBC reporter Jason Gwynne, after spending six months undercover as a member of the BNP in Bradford. His aim - to find out what lies behind the BNP's new image; suited respectable politicians. Keighley in Yorkshire: BNP leader Nick Griffin, captured on secret camera, focuses on a story about young white girls being sexually assaulted which has caused serious tension locally. Asian and white men are among the suspects but Mr Griffin focuses on the Asians, pointing the finger at the Koran.
GRIFFIN
... and you will find verse after verse after verse which says that you can take any women you want as long as they're not Muslim women - any woman that your right arm can own. That's the sword arm, it's the fighting arm, it's the arm you hit a white lad with a baseball bat with ... that's the sword, the fighting arm. Any woman that they can take by force or guile is theirs. If they get a non Muslim girl and they get her pregnant then her community doesn't want her and the child generally grows up to be a Muslim. And that's the way that this wicked vicious faith has expanded from a handful of cranky lunatics about thirteen hundred years ago, till it's now sweeping country after country before it all over the world ... And if you've got young children in your family, or teenage girls, or slightly older boys, or pensioners, then you've got to stand up and do something for the British National Party, because otherwise they will do for someone in your family. That is the truth. For saying that, I tell you I would get seven years if I said that outside - if I said that in front of people who would go and report it to the police.
LONG
Nick Griffin is right, he could face seven years in prison - according to a barrister who analysed his speech for the programme. He concluded that the language was designed to stir up racial hatred - a criminal offence. The tactics employed by the BNP are detailed by Andy Sykes, a senior member of the party who for the past two years has been a double agent.
ANDY SYKES
(Former BNP Member)
If you have tension in any area, the BNP will go to that area, peddle its lies, put out some leaflets, tell people, "yeah you've got to be scared because X Y and Z will happen," then they step back. Then if there's any tension after that, if there's a large scale disorder, once it is over and done with, then they step forward and say "told you so, we were right." But it is actually them who whipped it up in the first place.
LONG
BNP activist Steve Barkham was at the centre of trouble on the afternoon of the Bradford riots. He boasts continually about his part in a fight with a young Asian.
STEVE BARKHAM
... I'm kicking him. I'm kicking away, kicking away.
GWYNNE
How did it feel when you were kicking him?
BARKHAM
Fucking dragged me. Oh it was fucking fantastic. Dragged me inside ... so I'm like inside and I'm proper psyched up to fuck. It were fantastic. I'm looking out of the window and he's not moving ... the coppers are like lifting him up and he's not moving. His arms are all fucking floppy. His head's down. Blood coming out of his head ... I look down at my shoes. I were just covered in blood all over my shoes and that.
LONG
Steve Barkham could face up to life imprisonment for this confession to grievous bodily harm. Another meeting, this time in Burnley. The party is outraged at an accusation by the Tory leader Michael Howard, that they are just a bunch of thugs dressed up as a political party. Key note speaker, BNP founder John Tyndall, launches the party's defence.
JOHN TYNDALL
(BNP Founder)
How far do Mr Howard's roots in this country of ours go back? His father and mother came here as Jewish immigrants from Romania in the 1930's. This interloper, this immigrant or son of immigrants, who has no roots at all in Britain, has the effrontery to talk to us about what is alien.
LONG
At his local election count, BNP candidate Stuart Williams, who repeatedly told reporter Jason Gwynne he wanted to kill Muslims and attack mosques, awaits the results.
JASON
What do you think about all this democracy lark?
WILLIAMS
Load of bollocks.
GWYNNE
What would you do?
WILLIAMS
There's no democracy in Britain. What would I do? Close the borders.
GWYNNE
What?
WILLIAMS
Close the borders.
GWYNNE
Close the borders?
WILLIAMS
And say right you've got two weeks to get out.
LONG
Stuart Williams was not elected. The BNP won four seats in Bradford. And while Nick Griffin failed to win a seat in the European Parliament, the party won five per cent of the total vote. Tonight the BNP said Steve Barkham and Dave Midgley would be expelled. Stuart Williams will face an internal disciplinary hearing. The party leader Nick Griffin, condemned the BBC's use of an agent provocateur and challenged the authorities to prosecute him.
This transcript was produced from the teletext subtitles that are generated live for Newsnight. It has been checked against the programme as broadcast, however Newsnight can accept no responsibility for any factual inaccuracies. We will be happy to correct serious errors.
Harry Flash
February 3rd, 2006, 11:00 PM
No .. I agree to what you say above. I know full well the Jew Feldman... however - overall I feel it is wrong to attack fellow White Nationalists and National Socialists.
The Feldman situation should be resolved I agree !
Tune in to two new Aryan Matters (http://www.aryanmatters.com) programmes - up and coming !
I apologise for the line about "fuckwit" comrade. You are obviously nothing of the sort. However, as a NSist I am constantly incensed at the implementing racial collaborationist policies by Griffin and feel that this is becoming more obvious to WNists everywhere. Consequently the BNP is incapable of presenting a clear racially political perspective, and has no capacity to rally Whites on a mass scale against the multiracial ZOG offensive. I and others believe that at a moment of profound crisis for the indigenous British people, Griffin's BNP is impotent and unable to wage a political struggle for clear racial policies.
It's for this reason that I doubt the British people has much to hope from Griffin's acquittal. But I do know that ZOG will not be denied and will continue to use the BNP as an excuse to clamp down harder on the White struggle. If they can get enough muslims upset by the result in the same way that publishing cartoons of their God draws such attention, then it will be all the easier for ZOG.
Harry Flash
February 3rd, 2006, 11:30 PM
Read that again folks from our man in England who knows the lay of the land!
Sid is absolutely correct. The fact that the Jew agrees with Griffin about Islam being a wicked vicious faith has something to do with him being acquitted. If he attacked the Jew at the same time, it may have been a completely different story.
There is something wrong when an old communist reprobate like Galloway is a bigger "anti-semite" than is the leader of Britain's premier White Nationalist party.
Desert Fox
February 3rd, 2006, 11:49 PM
Sid is absolutely correct. The fact that the Jew agrees with Griffin about Islam being a wicked vicious faith has something to do with him being acquitted. If he attacked the Jew at the same time, it may have been a completely different story.
There is something wrong when an old communist reprobate like Galloway is a bigger "anti-semite" than is the leader of Britain's premier White Nationalist party.
I know this one man in the BNP who is always on Yahoo Politics Chat Room #3 and he goes by the name "No Knack", well let me tell you that within the last 3 years he has gone from always naming the Jew to only naming the Muslim. The whole BNP ideological structure is being switched to this exclusive Anti-Islam policy. Blacks? Indians? Oh no, don't criticize them because they are wonderful citizens, loyal to Queen and country, right? :rolleyes:
Harry Flash
February 5th, 2006, 02:10 AM
Britain today reminds me of something GK Chesterton once said:
Now this is the attitude which I attack. It is the huge heresy of Precedent. It is the view that because we have got into a mess we must grow messier to suit it; that because we have taken a wrong turn some time ago we must go forward and not backwards; that because we have lost our way we must lose our map also; and because we have missed our ideal, we must forget it
And in regards to the BNP, if you're part of the problem then you cannot at the same time be part of the solution.
Abzug Hoffman
February 5th, 2006, 08:27 AM
"There is something wrong when an old communist reprobate like Galloway is a bigger "anti-semite" than is the leader of Britain's premier White Nationalist party."
Exactly. As long as the Jews keep you running in the wrong direction, they don't have to worry, do they? "There's billions of Muslims - go get 'em!"
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