NSM's all the rage on Stormfront!

Bill White Sabotages anti-immigration rally (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=269413)


100 anti-immigration activists rallied at the capitol today against illegal immigration. The demonstration was addressed by Tom Tancredo. At the height of the demonstration, when all the media was there, Bill White and a friend came goose-stepping up in nazi stormtrooper uniformers like two retards immitating a Hollywood movie. Bill White is former militant left-winger, who has re-invented himself about 100 times and shits in whatever bed he lies in.

Anyone who engages in actively sabotaging a right wing event like this, needs to be denounced, isolated and banned from attending any event public or private.

Bill Whites former friends at onepeoplesproject and joyously thanking him for hurting the anti-immigration movement and Tom Tancredo.

http://onepeoplesproject.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=912&Itemid=2

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/elizabeth1982/brokebacknsm_m_1.jpg

Uh-oh, Rob Roy. NOW you've done it. Someone is going to accuse you of being a jew or being in bed with some nigger at the ARA or something. You can't criticise these guys. They don't like it and they piss in their pants. Besides, they are about to make Orlando Florida a Whites-only vacation land. Just you wait.

Anyone who engages in actively sabotaging a right wing event like this, needs to be denounced, isolated and banned from attending any event public or private.

Right wing? HaHaHaHaHaHa!! Let me ask you something, Rim Job.....I mean, Rob Roy; does the current illegal immigration issue in this country have ANYTHING to do with RACE or ETHNICITY???? I mean, would Tancredo or the Minutemen have a problem with 13 million Canadians being in the U.S. illegally?? Probably not, huh??

Well, your right wing "heroes" stood on the Mall in D.C. and SWORE that their Anti-immigration stance has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. They are COWARDS and LIARS, and it took only 2 NSM Stormtroopers to expose them! If VNNer's have a problem with the NSM, or you would like to participate in the debate, then get your asses out in the streets where the actual war is being waged.

I do believe that the thread about this on Stormfront was shut down.

I guess someone on VNN decided that another flaming, board war was needed to keep things interesting.:rolleyes:

The border issue is about race and multicult. Comrade White did the right thing by showing up. The Minutemen are hypocrites. They know damn well that it is a racial issue. Illiterate peasants from Mexico are very different from Europeans or educated White Canadians.

Hail Victory!\0

Right wing? HaHaHaHaHaHa!! Let me ask you something, Rim Job.....I mean, Rob Roy; does the current illegal immigration issue in this country have ANYTHING to do with RACE or ETHNICITY???? I mean, would Tancredo or the Minutemen have a problem with 13 million Canadians being in the U.S. illegally?? Probably not, huh??

Well, your right wing "heroes" stood on the Mall in D.C. and SWORE that their Anti-immigration stance has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. They are COWARDS and LIARS, and it took only 2 NSM Stormtroopers to expose them! If VNNer's have a problem with the NSM, or you would like to participate in the debate, then get your asses out in the streets where the actual war is being waged.

The Minutemen are a SINGLE ISSUE organization, which is why they are so effective. There is a method to their madness vs. the madness without method of the NSM.

[QUOTE=Rob Roy MacGregor]NSM's all the rage on Stormfront!

Bill White Sabotages anti-immigration rally (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=269413)


100 anti-immigration activists rallied at the capitol today against illegal immigration. The demonstration was addressed by Tom Tancredo. At the height of the demonstration, when all the media was there, Bill White and a friend came goose-stepping up in nazi stormtrooper uniformers like two retards immitating a Hollywood movie. Bill White is former militant left-winger, who has re-invented himself about 100 times and shits in whatever bed he lies in.



That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

WTF?! Are you some kind of cheerleader for the NeoCohens now?!

Uh-oh, Rob Roy. NOW you've done it. Someone is going to accuse you of being a jew or being in bed with some nigger at the ARA or something. You can't criticise these guys. They don't like it and they piss in their pants. Besides, they are about to make Orlando Florida a Whites-only vacation land. Just you wait.
Action Alert's thread, originally posted in "General Discussion" and still "grabbingly" entitled:
"HEY! Check THIS out!!!" http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=29866
http://www.gavinshearer.com/photos/weblog/2005_08_09_mightymouse.jpg

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/925_1858_1.jpg
Besides, at least some of the NSM members are Krishtons.

[QUOTE]

That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

WTF?! Are you some kind of cheerleader for the NeoCohens now?!

What???

The Media was ALREADY there for the MM rally. The NSM took 99% of the attention AWAY from the MM.

It was a stupid stunt period.

Action Alert's thread, originally posted in "General Discussion" and still "grabbingly" entitled:
"HEY! Check THIS out!!!" http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=29866
http://www.gavinshearer.com/photos/weblog/2005_08_09_mightymouse.jpg
Besides, at least some of the NSM members are Krishtons.

Yeah, keep worrying about what religion Whites follow and you won't have to worry about our dying off. Our race will be gone before you can get everyone baptized a Creator.

Sorry, Chain. I like your commentary, esp. on Goyfire, but I think that the preoccupation that you and some others on the site have over WNs' religious beliefs merely bogs us down into things that really don't matter. Do you really think that jewwise WNs who proclaim Christianity as their religion are in the same camp with the NeoCohen cheerleaders? I do not.

[QUOTE=deathtozog]

What???

The Media was ALREADY there for the MM rally. The NSM took 99% of the attention AWAY from the MM.

It was a stupid stunt period.

Ok, I will say it again:

That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

[QUOTE=Rob Roy MacGregor]

Ok, I will say it again:

That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

You are 100% correct, and the fact that when you see the muds yelling back at them calling them racists makes me want to puke. I think the NSM are making a difference just like the Minute Men, the Minute Men for all intense purposes would love to have them help them, but the white power part doesn't help their cause. I live California and it's so fucked up out here right now that if your not illegally carrying a weapon your just plain stupid and I don't so I must be retarded....
:mad:

deathtozog said-
Do you really think that jewwise WNs who proclaim Christianity as their religion are in the same camp with the NeoCohen cheerleaders? I do not.It appears there are perhaps five groups of diverging, diverse Krishtons highlighted:
1. Minutemen Krishtons.
2. "Other" actual or potential Minutemen-sympathetic, tangentially-allied Neocon Krishtons. (Remember, this is a huge, ultra-sensitive group, virtually nearly the entire White portion- those who are not antis or socialists- of the country...so we MUST NOT offend them in any ways whatsoever).
3. NSM Krishtons.
4. VNN Krishtons who don't like NSM.
5. VNN Krishtons who DO like NSM.

About Action Alert's Mighty Mouse thread, to which he urges us all to read:
Action Alert is a VNN Krishton too.

Rogue Postman said:
Right wing? HaHaHaHaHaHa!! Let me ask you something, Rim Job.....I mean, Rob Roy; does the current illegal immigration issue in this country have ANYTHING to do with RACE or ETHNICITY???? I mean, would Tancredo or the Minutemen have a problem with 13 million Canadians being in the U.S. illegally?? Probably not, huh??

our right wing "heroes" stood on the Mall in D.C. and SWORE that their Anti-immigration stance has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. They are COWARDS and LIARS, and it took only 2 NSM Stormtroopers to expose them! If VNNer's have a problem with the NSM, or you would like to participate in the debate, then get your asses out in the streets where the actual war is being waged.Lots of VNNers aren't going into the streets, and never will unless some nigger or spic home invades them, and they gotta run away from the TV, outta the house.

I agree with Rogue Postman.

Another thing. I've noticed you rarely, if ever, find NSM's Krishtons animating their paranoid religious
"He died on the cross for us" fantasies online.

mark in cali said-
I live California and it's so fucked up out here right now that if your not illegally carrying a weapon your just plain stupid...
...But the NSM alienate all the great, otherwise fine Whites with their Multi Cult confronting clown show.

As mark in cali insiuates, you'd better just get your right to carry (if you can) and that's that.

The Minutemen are not obsessed with attention the way movement people are(not just NSM). The Minutemen have clear tasks and goals, and they set out to accomplish them. They are clearly well-versed in media relations and get their message out from the grass-roots to national levels. They do not need "NSM"s help- if anything the movement should be learning from them.

The Minutemen are not obsessed with attention the way movement people are(not just NSM). The Minutemen have clear tasks and goals, and they set out to accomplish them. They are clearly well-versed in media relations and get their message out from the grass-roots to national levels. They do not need "NSM"s help- if anything the movement should be learning from them (i.e. the Minutemen- Chain).Yes. And who can reasonably argue with the Minutemen's sterling "It's not aboout race" and "We do racist background checks on our people" credentials?

Yes. And who can reasonably argue with the Minutemen's sterling "It's not aboout race" and "We do racist background checks on our people" credentials?


That's not the point. The point is DTZ said they got media coverage because of NSM- the fact is that the MM get media coverage all the time, and because of that they are not obsessed with media coverage. Media coverage isn't an end in itself; If you want media coverage just get an army of strippers and sports mascots to march for pedophile rights- believe me you'll get coverage.

Lastly, regardless of the MM's theoretical differences, they have PRACTICAL value. Let's just say for example that the MM had only really prevented 40 Mexicans from entering the United States- 40 Mexicans that are stopped, deported, and don't return. That's still 40 more than the ENTIRE WN/NS movement has kept out.

The WN movement's obsession with theoretical parity and up-front-in-your-face action is why it fails to achieve any significance in the political arena. It is also identical to the same problem found in Marxist circles. A serious revolutionary movement LOVES groups that despite theoretical differences, work toward one of the revolutionaries' goals. A lot of times these groups can achieve those goals far more efficiently simply because they are only focusing on that issue and nothing else. And because it is a different group, it does not draw people and resources away from the revolutionary group.

Ok, I will say it again:

That Minuteman (or Minuteklan, according to OPP for a long time now whenever mentioning the group) rally would not have seen the light of day past the editing room had Comrade White not shown up.

Hey PedoTard,
try to follow whats being said. the fucking media were already there and every time in the past thier rallys have been televised.
all the NSM hobbiest fucktards did was turn off those people that might
have otherwise have been a big help

The mini men are quite clear about the issue of race. They don't give a damn about the White race and because of that I don't give a damn about them. Playing footsie with anti-White conservatives is a waste of time. Remember Congressman Tom T. wanting to sue Byron about his being in The Line in the Sand DVD.

Ok Ok fuck the Minutemen. They aren't hardcore outspoken WNs so they need to pack up everything and go home! Sure they brought a lot of national attention to the problems on the border, enough to get the federal government to actually fund the Border Patrol- but they don't "name the Jew" so to hell with them all!! Let the Mexicans keep flooding into the country totally unimpeded until a REAL WN organization gets down there!! Hell, the movement should start HELPING illegal aliens into the country just because the Minutemen aren't racialists so that makes them our enemy!!! RAHOOOOOOOOOOWA!!! 14/88 3.14!!!1

Doesn't the one Minuteman leader brag about not there's no way that he could be racist because he has a Mestizo grandchild? I'm glad the NSM showed up in DC and exposed the Minuteman for what they really are.

If they aren't fighting to help preserve our Race, I don't have time for them or really give a damn what they do.

Ok Ok fuck the Minutemen. They aren't hardcore outspoken WNs so they need to pack up everything and go home! Sure they brought a lot of national attention to the problems on the border, enough to get the federal government to actually fund the Border Patrol- but they don't "name the Jew" so to hell with them all!! Let the Mexicans keep flooding into the country totally unimpeded until a REAL WN organization gets down there!! Hell, the movement should start HELPING illegal aliens into the country just because the Minutemen aren't racialists so that makes them our enemy!!! RAHOOOOOOOOOOWA!!! 14/88 3.14!!!1
JP if you want to support them go ahead, tell them what you think about why we should protect the border and watch them react to your reasoning. Repost when they tell you to get the hell away from them.

A serious revolutionary movement LOVES groups that despite theoretical differences, work toward one of the revolutionaries' goals. A lot of times these groups can achieve those goals far more efficiently simply because they are only focusing on that issue and nothing else. And because it is a different group, it does not draw people and resources away from the revolutionary group.Completely agreed. Have stated it before on this board.

Problem is, Amren, SF, Minutemen, Krishtons, and very newly racially awakening Whites spend an inordinate amount of time denouncing NSM, "nazis" (and it's hard here to confuse the meanings of the mainstream media's "nazi" versions).

If other WP orgs need to take their media and organizational cues from the Minutemen, then we'd better stop publishing TAA too, right JP? Oh yeah-- but you're not a fan of TAA either, correct?

So we'll all just hally on to the revolution then with our mutually complementing orgs, JP? Sounds good.

You are 100% correct, and the fact that when you see the muds yelling back at them calling them racists makes me want to puke. I think the NSM are making a difference just like the Minute Men, the Minute Men for all intense purposes would love to have them help them, but the white power part doesn't help their cause. I live California and it's so fucked up out here right now that if your not illegally carrying a weapon your just plain stupid and I don't so I must be retarded....
:mad:

What differance are they making ..Besides making everyone even slightly
conected with WN look like fucking morons And what makes you think the MM would want ANYTHING to do PedoTard Jeffy and his band of hobbiest clowns

JP if you want to support them go ahead, tell them what you think about why we should protect the border and watch them react to your reasoning. Repost when they tell you to get the hell away from them.


I know all about the Minutemen thank you very much- I live in Arizona remember? You run into them at Gun Shows all the time. The point is that they are dedicated people doing something that WE want, without us expending ANY resources of our own. Now why would we want to knowingly SABOTAGE what they are doing just to sate the egos of movement-figures?

Completely agreed. Have stated it before on this board.

Problem is, Amren, SF, Minutemen, Krishtons, and very newly racially awakening Whites spend an inordinate amount of time denouncing NSM, "nazis" (and it's hard here to confuse the meanings of the mainstream media's "nazi" versions).

NSM shouldn't have tried to horn in on their playing field. If you can get our message across without fucking things up for them(or any other useful group) then fine, that's desirable. But when our movement is weak, and yes it IS weak, it's best to let these groups continue to accomplish their goals while we find ways we can use them.



If other WP orgs need to take their media and organizational cues from the Minutemen, then we'd better stop publishing TAA too, right JP? Oh yeah-- but you're not a fan of TAA either, correct?

No, it just means learn how to use the media effectively like the Minutemen, and learn how to apply PRACTICAL activism like they are doing. Everyone protests or puts out literature, but at some point one has to find practical goals that can be accomplished.


So we'll all just hally on to the revolution then with our mutually complementing orgs, JP? Sounds good.

It's called a United Front. Fissile recently posted some scanned letters by Dr. Pierce on the subject that date back to 1970. He pointed out how a core of die-hard Communists could get thousands of people in the streets for various causes, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of those people were 1. Non-Jewish, usually white, and 2. ANTI-Communist. Basically small groups of organizers with a clear ideology and detailed goals were able to creat massive movements by carefully managing fronts and co-opting existing groups. When a certain group proved useful, they would ignore theoretical differences because they knew they could remain in control.

I know all about the Minutemen thank you very much- I live in Arizona remember? You run into them at Gun Shows all the time. The point is that they are dedicated people doing something that WE want, without us expending ANY resources of our own. Now why would we want to knowingly SABOTAGE what they are doing just to sate the egos of movement-figures?
So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.

So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.


If you don't want to give them the time of day then NO White Nationalists or NSM should have anything to do with them. No trying to take them over, no horning in on their rallies, etc. You know where they stand, so leave them alone. All I am saying is that they are accomplishing one of our goals for us, regardless of motives or theoretical differences.

JP, you missed what I meant-- that is, that I am in agreement that mutually complementing...even though seemingly "at odds" groups will work towards a final solution, both wittingly and unwittingly. The general state of affairs is deteriorating so rapidly in The Kwa, that we can and do give blow by blow, day by day accounts of the actions.

So even as some of us think it is incredibly important that NSM be denounced, the Multi Cult show goes on!

So are jews against gun contol and darkies agianst crime but I wouldn't give them the time of day either. These people are not with us at all and that's the point that's most important. Hell Duke's Klan with Tom Metzger patroled the border many years prior to them and got a lot of attention. It should be our side that brings these issues to the public's attention, not kosher approved non-racist groups like the min men.

So fucking go to it Ron oh thats right your group has a march....err BBQ planed for a park somewhere in Ohio or the front yard of Jeffs trailer

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up

Two bit said-
Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck upYou're talking to Ron Doggett, pal. Maybe YOU should shut the fuck up.

So fucking go to it Ron oh thats right your group has a march....err BBQ planed for a park somewhere in Ohio or the front yard of Jeffs trailer

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up

Stay your hand brother... Ron is not an NSM member. I believe he was actually a major player in the Alliance who spoke out against Gliebe.

Doesn't the one Minuteman leader brag about not there's no way that he could be racist because he has a Mestizo grandchild? I'm glad the NSM showed up in DC and exposed the Minuteman for what they really are.

If they aren't fighting to help preserve our Race, I don't have time for them or really give a damn what they do.


This "stunt" was the best damn thing thats happened in Washington DC in a long time. The NSM should have been at Rosa Parks, but faggots like the anti "uniform" croud are holding whites down.

JP, you missed what I meant-- that is, that I am in agreement that mutually complementing...even though seemingly "at odds" groups will work towards a final solution, both wittingly and unwittingly. The general state of affairs is deteriorating so rapidly in The Kwa, that we can and do give blow by blow, day by day accounts of the actions.

So even as some of us think it is incredibly important that NSM be denounced, the Multi Cult show goes on!


Ah yes I see. I might also add that one-trick pony organizations like the Minutemen are also "safe" to work with because they fade away when the issue is dealt with. What you have to look out for are groups with a broad worldview- like evangelical Christians. Sure we might find common ground(though not for the same motives) on maybe the gay issue or the pornography issue- but they are extremely powerful and could co-opt our movement with all their excess ideological baggage such as evolution in schools and Biblical law.

So one-trick pony groups are the best bet and least dangerous in terms of possible hijacking.

This "stunt" was the best damn thing thats happened in Washington DC in a long time. The NSM should have been at Rosa Parks, but faggots like the anti "uniform" croud are holding whites down.


Who kept them from going to Rosa Parks funeral? Nobody. Who kept them from Correta Scott King's funeral? Nobody.

Stay your hand brother... Ron is not an NSM member. I believe he was actually a major player in the Alliance who spoke out against Gliebe.

no quarter for those who in any way support NSM
past achievements should never be a shield against the truth

So fucking go to it Ron oh thats right your group has a march....err BBQ planed for a park somewhere in Ohio or the front yard of Jeffs trailer

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up
Damn two bit, don't blow a gasket.

Who kept them from going to Rosa Parks funeral? Nobody. Who kept them from Correta Scott King's funeral? Nobody.


People like you who have close to 5000 posts on here. I'm sure you criticized them in the past.

People like you who have close to 5000 posts on here. I'm sure you criticized them in the past.

Ok fucktard, explain how people posting on forums kept the courageous warriors of NSM from going to those events. I can't wait for this.

Well, VNN was at Rosa Parks' funereal, but I would have liked it even better had NSM been there.
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=25687

Damn two bit, don't blow a gasket.

Look Im sorry but I just cant see how anybody could support these
worthless cunts The NSM do nothing but bring harm to our cause

NSM were in Toledo; Hal and Byron Calvert were on the cable networks after Lefkow. Then there was Kingston. It's ridiculous for people to argue that these media coverages don't help.

Gilchrist is very proud of his mestizo family members, how can you sabotage something like that?
These "we are not racists" anti-illegal immigration types are accomplishing nothing. Tancredo, when it seemed the wind was blowing anti-gun after Columbine voted against our right to keep and bear arms, if he can make political hay with a cause he will be right there, until the wind blows another way.

All the media has to do is trot out the pic of David Duke in his brownshirt and swastika and they can trash SF just as easily.
SF seems to be more and more like Nicky and the BNP and less like a solution to the problem.

Ok fucktard, explain how people posting on forums kept the courageous warriors of NSM from going to those events. I can't wait for this.


I know you "can't wait for this" because this is your life, posting on here, pissing white nationalists off in this extremely closed off community, and getting your jollies.

You should consider taking a month off of posting on vnn and doing something useful for WN, recruiting, even other places on the internet.

Hey PedoTard,
try to follow whats being said. the fucking media were already there and every time in the past thier rallys have been televised.
all the NSM hobbiest fucktards did was turn off those people that might
have otherwise have been a big help

I see you are another poster on this forum who cannot read, or simply skims and then types a load of bullshit. No need to take you seriously, though, after reading your other posts in this thread. Linder and Co. allow a lot of free expression on VNN, but I can see you crashing and burning ere too long.

MM's press has been on the wane of late. The NSM's appearance reinvigorated it which is why I believe that Comrade White's appearance kept the jewsmedia from dropping the story on the cutting room floor.;)

You are good for a laugh with your pathological hatred of the NSM. If they are irrelevant then they don't bear mention, do they?

Have a nice day and try some Prozac before you really do blow a gasket.

This "stunt" was the best damn thing thats happened in Washington DC in a long time. The NSM should have been at Rosa Parks, but faggots like the anti "uniform" croud are holding whites down.

SEE WHAT I MEAN RON, WORTHLESS FUCKING CUNTS

You seem to be calling me a cunt, i dont think this was your intention.

[QUOTE=Chain]Another thing. I've noticed you rarely, if ever, find NSM's Krishtons animating their paranoid religious
"He died on the cross for us" fantasies online.



Chain, that is one of the things that I tried to point out to Will recently. The NSM tells people to keep their religion at home or in their church. They don't care what or who a member worships. That I can respect. They realize it is not their place, or in their best interests, to try and push any kind of religion on their members. Such a position gives a group broad appeal to various WNs.

NSM were in Toledo; Hal and Byron Calvert were on the cable networks after Lefkow. It's ridiculous for people to argue that these media coverages don't help.

Like Prussian Blue, these are doorways into the consciousness of White America, and when things get bad enough THEN they will remember who stood up for Whites.

So fucking go to it Ron oh thats right your group has a march....err BBQ planed for a park somewhere in Ohio or the front yard of Jeffs trailer

Untill some group you do approve of is doing something or even anything you should shut the fuck up

No White woman in the country has fought longer and harder (30+ years) for our race than klaliff. No White man has fought harder for our race, and few have fought longer than Ron Doggett. And you insult one with your post and the other with your signature.

Whose side are YOU on?

I know you "can't wait for this" because this is your life, posting on here, pissing white nationalists off in this extremely closed off community, and getting your jollies.

You should consider taking a month off of posting on vnn and doing something useful for WN, recruiting, even other places on the internet.

Hey dumbfuck, answer the fucking question. You tell me how people posting on the internet hurt the fragile feelings of NSM, preventing them from going to certain events. When has NSM EVER taken the advice of anybody for the sake of tactical purposes?

And for your information had you used that little SEARCH function and LOOKED through a few of those 5,000 posts you might have found that I DID recruit people, I DID flyer, I DID protest, I did all that crap until I realized that the movement is more about satisfying people's egos instead of accomplishing anything of value. That's why I'm moving to Europe next month so I can work with people that are serious about improving their countries.

SEE WHAT I MEAN RON, WORTHLESS FUCKING CUNTS

Chain shot some great footage at the Rosa Parks memorial in Washington. No, NSM wasn't there. Where were you?

No White woman in the country has fought longer and harder (30+ years) for our race than klaliff. No White man has fought harder for our race, and few have fought longer than Ron Doggett. And you insult one with your post and the other with your signature.

Whose side are YOU on?

Ron's cool, but fuck that CI.

JP said-
That's why I'm moving to Europe next month so I can work with people that are serious about improving their countries.
Good for you. Relatively fewer of them are so seriously PC-dieversity mindwashed as Kwans too.

I see you are another poster on this forum who cannot read, or simply skims and then types a load of bullshit. No need to take you seriously, though, after reading your other posts in this thread. Linder and Co. allow a lot of free expression on VNN, but I can see you crashing and burning ere too long.

MM's press has been on the wane of late.[/ The NSM's appearance reinvigorated it which is why I believe that Comrade White's appearance kept the jewsmedia from dropping the story on the cutting room floor.;)

You are good for a laugh with your pathological hatred of the NSM. If they are irrelevant then they don't bear mention, do they?

Have a nice day and try some Prozac before you really do blow a gasket.

What did you do just pull that fact outayour ass ? MM are on the TV quite often in the southwest PedoTard

If you spent half the time you spend posting "clever" posts on VNN elsewhere, you could actually do some good.

I spend time on the internet talking to teenagers and kids my age on online computer games. Some that are jew wise, I help guide the way. I give them WN sites, help them out. The others, I educate.

Bottom line is bro, you gotta step back and look at how many posts you make per thread. It's rediculous, this is not a chat room. You're wasting your time. You telling the NSM how to act is as preposterous as you telling the democrats how to act. They'll act how they want. Don't agree with it? Form your own group. The NSM is out in the streets protecting the white race.

Like the Minuteman bring up the "illegal immigration" issue, the NSM brings up the NIGGER issue. Not black, NIGGER. Ask the people of Toledo how they feel about "uniforms." They kicked out the nigger mayor and voted white. The president of Italy decided to change immigration policy based on their "extreme" activity. The NSM did as much in one day as the Minutemen have done in a year.

I was against the swastika uniforms at first. But the day is later then we ever predicted. We are not on a 50 year timescale to minority status in America, man. We have maybe a month and a half before WWIII is made obvious to everyone worldwide.

The NSM is serious about saving America. American teenagers and colleged aged kids are realizing they have more in common with the 60 year old foreign flag of "our enemy" than the current American flag. Do you realize how hard it is to make that decision, and with all the weight behind it, stand out in the streets in protest of nigger violence?

[QUOTE=J.P. Slovjanski]Hey dumbfuck, answer the fucking question. You tell me how people posting on the internet hurt the fragile feelings of NSM, preventing them from going to certain events. When has NSM EVER taken the advice of anybody for the sake of tactical purposes?

You are correct here, JP. Nothing that anyone says makes a dent in the tactics or the strategy of NSM.

And for your information had you used that little SEARCH function and LOOKED through a few of those 5,000 posts you might have found that I DID recruit people, I DID flyer, I DID protest, I did all that crap until I realized that the movement is more about satisfying people's egos instead of accomplishing anything of value.

Unfortunately, that is all too often true. There are some good groups out there, though. I think that a lot of them need better leadership, or even a grand, unifying leader. What choices do we have? Strom? Nope. Duke? No, noone trusts him with their money. Covington? Hell no! There are not many choices at this stage of the game. I think Edgar Steele could pull it off if he were interested. Linder could, if he toned down the religious bashing and profanity a bit.

teh movement!!1

That's why I'm moving to Europe next month so I can work with people that are serious about improving their countries.

Keep posting and let us know your progress, why dont you?

How many mexicans have the minutemen stopped from entering America? Probably not too many. To be fair, it's safe to say that neither have the NSM stopped any mexicans from entering America, as far as we know.

Reality check.

Just as we do here at VNN, the NSM tells the truth about the jew. When they tell the truth, and every time they do, a small percentage of their White audience will “get it”. This truth will awaken people to the jew menace.

HERE’S THE IMPORTANT PART........Those White people in who this message resonates will ultimately naturally desire for the elimination of the jew. The NSM need not tell the people that the jew should be killed outright. The truth that the NSM tells, will enable those White people to come to that conclusion by their own volition. The minutemen tell no such truth.

Let’s continue this line of reasoning a litter further. Let’s say that the NSM awakens 500 White people this year. And 5,000 next year. And 50,000 the next year and so on. In a few years, there will be 10s of thousands of White people just itching for the chance to kill a jew. And with all of those angry White people sitting around cleaning their sniper rifles and with an ever deepening and seething hatred for the jew.......Who knows what good things could come from that?

Do any of us really believe that the Minutemen are going to inspire any level of hatred that will come close to the racial truth of the matter? It’s all about race and it’s us against the jew and all of the others are nothing more then aggravating cockroaches that we would easily crush without the jew in our way.

The jew is the root of the problem. The mexican problem is a symptom of the jew disease. Just as all of the other White maladies are symptoms of the jew disease..

The Minutemen are probably good White men, but they are deluded. I will not join in with their wrongheaded and naive approach to the mexican problem. It should be obvious to all WNs that any so-called propaganda victories that the Minutemen achieve, will be spun, blunted and neutered by the jew media.

Come on Brothers, it’s the jew. And anyone who tells the truth about the jew, will get another White person to hate the jew. We need to smother the jew with our hate.

The NSM is still on the runway, and they’re about to take off.

I say, let them fly!

[QUOTE='Two-Bit' Mathews]What did you do just pull that fact outayour ass ? MM are on the TV quite often in the southwest

The southwest isn't the country, Oh Great Brain.

PedoTard

:rolleyes: More wit from someone who cannot spare any. With people like you, we don't need jews or niggers for enemies. We have people like you. I am not concerned about what you call me. This is the net. You wouldn't say it to my face, so it doesn't matter. Making slanderous comments about other, hardworking WNs is in poor taste, though. Klaliff, I do believe, was involved in the party that Rounder put together in the 80s. That was a big deal in the 80s.

If you spent half the time you spend posting "clever" posts on VNN elsewhere, you could actually do some good.

I HAVE done some good. And furthermore it doesn't take long to post things on here. A post need only be ten characters to show up.


I spend time on the internet talking to teenagers and kids my age on online computer games. Some that are jew wise, I help guide the way. I give them WN sites, help them out. The others, I educate.

That's great(seriously), but I spent most of my education time either face to face with people or over the phone. I have stayed on the phone for hours with people in some cases, just to help them understand certain concepts and answer all their questions. If I had to spend two hours on the phone just trying to get someone to see how the Jewish issue fits into the big picture I would do it- and I did it at least twice.


Bottom line is bro, you gotta step back and look at how many posts you make per thread. It's rediculous, this is not a chat room. You're wasting your time.

It doesn't take that much time.



You telling the NSM how to act is as preposterous as you telling the democrats how to act. They'll act how they want. Don't agree with it? Form your own group.

Then why are you blaming me for them not showing up to certain events?


The NSM is out in the streets protecting the white race.

No, NSM isn't protecting me from jack shit, but they can take solace in the fact that neither are any of the other WN organizations.


Like the Minuteman bring up the Mexican issue, the NSM brings up the NIGGER issue. Not black, NIGGER. Ask the people of Toledo how they feel about "uniforms." They kicked out the nigger mayor and voted white.

Yeah one of them is suing NSM as well.


The president of Italy decided to change immigration policy based on their "extreme" activity. The NSM did as much in one day as the Minutemen have done in a year.

Italy had been talking about immigration policies for years. It is a real stretch to suggest that.


I was against the swastika uniforms at first. But the day is later then we ever predicted. We are not on a 50 year timescale to minority status in America, man. We have maybe a month and a half before WWIII is made obvious to everyone worldwide.

And how are fake SA uniforms going to solve that?

You seem to be calling me a cunt, i dont think this was your intention.

the stupidity of these fucking NSM supporters never fails to amaze me

YES Im CALLING YOU A CUNT .......DUMBFUCK

Took you six minutes to format your reply. I'm done wasting my time with you, I'm going to finish formatting fliers.

Bottom line is we need nazis to stop the jewish supremacist world order. Not faggot, feminized "minutemen". The leader of which has a fucking mexican son in law, and a mexishit grandson.

You should be in the "opposing views" section. So should mathews, demonizing a fucking WHITE NATIONALIST WOMAN.

Don't even reply to me, I'm not checking it, i'll be out attempting to wake my brothers up instead of denouncing the choir.

You know what, Frank Weltner, VonBluvens and Stormfront are right.

Bye VNN, you are infiiltrated with assholes who spend hours denouncing the activities of WHITE NATIONALISTS.

Ron's cool, but fuck that CI.

Ron's more than cool. He is a White man who fights for our race. And he will NOT vulgarly attack a White woman who has worked every day for over 30 years for our race. He may not agree with her staying in the Klan all these years, or her fringe religious beliefs, but he won't publicly condemn her.

I get the distinct impression that some here have no life other than to attack the handful of fighters who are actually in the trenches. Shame on you for it. I won't carry this further, so do your best.............

Took you six minutes to format your reply. I'm done wasting my time with you, I'm going to finish formatting fliers.

WOW! Formating flyers!!! I put out thousands of fliers.


Bottom line is we need nazis to stop the jewish supremacist world order. Not faggot, feminized "minutemen". The leader of which has a fucking mexican son in law, and a mexishit grandson.

Bottom line is you can't answer my questions and you don't like the fact that I have INDEED been involved in real activism, and if you searched my posts back a few months you will find several occasions when I was forced to detail all the time and money I spent(so far as I can count) to that end.

You are absolutely right about the minuteme- which is ALL THE MORE REASON TO LEAVE THEM ALONE and let them keep doing what they are doing.


You should be in the "opposing views" section. Don't even reply to me, I'm not checking it, i'll be out attempting to wake my brothers up instead of denouncing the choir.

Yeah, waking them up on the INTERNET!!!1

The NSM is out in the streets protecting the white race.



BULLSHIT!! they are doing fuckall for the white race

the stupidity of these fucking NSM supporters never fails to amaze me

YES Im CALLING YOU A CUNT .......DUMBFUCK

I looked for you all over the place in a rally with some group or other but cannot find it. So, just for you, are some items that might be of interest that show some real WNs engaging the enemy. Hope to see you in Orlando;)

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/Tributensm2.wmv

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/Toldeo3.wmv

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/Aussiesmall.wmv

BTW, JP, don't look for the Toledo lawsuit against NSM to go anywhere. They would have been better off suing ARA or OPP.

And he will NOT vulgarly attack a White woman who has worked every day for over 30 years for our race. He may not agree with her staying in the Klan all these years, or her fringe religious beliefs, but he won't publicly condemn her.

She fought for "our" race? Well I don't know about you but MY race is not the "Israelites".



I get the distinct impression that some here have no life other than to attack the handful of fighters who are actually in the trenches. Shame on you for it. I won't carry this further, so do your best.............

I have enough of a life not to be delusional and talk about "fighting in the trenches" where there is no battle.

Incidentily I'm going easy on NSM right now because Bill White has been very helpful to me in exposing the fake Vietnam-vet Jacques Pluss. Apparently a check of the national records shows he has no military records whatsoever. Kicking Pluss out of the NSM, which led to his subsequent mental breakdown, is probably the greatest thing NSM ever did, and I sincerely mean that. We just need a photo of him for various fake-busting organizations' Walls of Shame.

Bye VNN,.

bye dumbfuck

bye dumbfuck

Looks like Invisible Umpire has been reincarnated.:rolleyes:

Two Bit Mathews, I see you use the more uncommon spelling of the Matthews name-- Mathews as in "Bob". Perchance, for your two bits, were (are) you related to Bob?

Ron's more than cool. He is a White man who fights for our race. And he will NOT vulgarly attack a White woman who has worked every day for over 30 years for our race. He may not agree with her staying in the Klan all these years, or her fringe religious beliefs, but he won't publicly condemn her.

I get the distinct impression that some here have no life other than to attack the handful of fighters who are actually in the trenches. Shame on you for it. I won't carry this further, so do your best.............

Who said anything about the Klan
Me calling her a CUNT and she is has to do with her banning people whenever the mood suits her on Stormfront AND the fact she whines
like a cunt every time someone dares to challange her stupid CI beliefs
ANYWHERE on the forum

Who said anything about the Klan
Me calling her a CUNT and she is has to do with her banning people whenever the mood suits her on Stormfront AND the fact she whines
like a cunt every time someone dares to challange her stupid CI beliefs
ANYWHERE on the forum

Yeah, whining about Stormfront. LOL, I have pushed the envelope over there several times and have yet to be banned . Even JJT hasn't banned me for criticising the BNP's jew loving ways.

Stay out of Theology over there and keep the arguments with the antis and you won't get banned. Ok, I will admit that challenging the proSerb stance at SF can get you into trouble but I doubt you have the slightest awareness of who the Serbs are or even where Kosovo is on the map.

Two Bit Mathews, I see you use the more uncommon spelling of the Matthews name-- Mathews as in "Bob". Perchance, for your two bits, were (are) you related to Bob?

Sorry to dissapoint you the name comes from "THE OUTSIDERS" (the book not that stupid movie)

And how quickly you forget how Hal Turner was directly inspired by Toledo to stand up against NIGGERS in Kingston. we are seeing the reverberations of this to this day.

I thought you were leaving westernalliance to go make some useless flyers

I particularly like the part where Westernalliance says he has to get back to "formating fliers"- not "putting out fliers", or "rolling fliers), The guy stormed off here because he, like so many others, thought I was some kind of "net Nazi". Then when it became apparent that I had far more physical activism under my belt, he broke and ran. I got no problem with him recruiting teens and educating people over the internet, but I would never use that as a trump card. I think the best recruiting, and thereby the best activism you can do involves the person to person conversation. It's not the flyer, magazine, or book you give them, but that conversation of several hours that totally re-shapes their entire perception of politics and existence. That's when you know you've done something worthwhile.

I think the best recruiting, and thereby the best activism you can do involves the person to person conversation. It's not the flyer, magazine, or book you give them, but that conversation of several hours that totally re-shapes their entire perception of politics and existence. That's when you know you've done something worthwhile.
I couldn't more wholeheartedly agree. Yes the papers and flyers are a great tool, but person to person leaves a much better impression. Besides, the cloak of darkness, and hit and run flyer missions eventually makes us look like cowards.

A good clean haircut, eye contact, smile, decent regular American clothes, and a firm handshake still goes a long way... Just ask any politician. ;)

The idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity is a bad idea. One of the biggest advantages the Jews have over us is their understanding of how to effectively mold public opinion. If you study the tactics of the Jews you'll notice they rarely make direct frontal assaults against the institutions they want to destroy. They slowly and deliberately chip away at the bedrock over a period of decades. They organize highly focused groups that direct their energy at one facet of that bedrock. They chip and chip and chip, cranking up the intensity of their attacks while our tolerance is built up. The MM is a great example of a highly focused group that can chip away at one issue. The fact that their underlying motives are obfuscated is good. This is exactly how the Jew operate and it works.

What do we do? We use in-your-face blunt attacks as if we are hitting our heads against a brick wall. We have to name the Jew at every turn. The stunt the NSM pulled off is a tactic of desperation. It's not the most effective way to achieve our goals. Also, I think there is an element of moral superiority at work here ("I'm doing something! - what are you doing?"). When folks question whether or not that "something" is effective or counterproductive there's a negative reaction from some quarters. No group should be beyond critique. How do we measure our progress and make strategic course corrections if we can't question our methods?

Personally, I don't think we should feel too harsh about Jeff Schoep and Bill White. I hear they're starring in a new low-budget movie that they promise will make them kings of WNs again. Here's a poster of the upcoming release. Bill looks pretty convincing in the role of the cow poke who pokes more than just cows.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/SuckCockMountainBillWhiteJeffSchoep.jpg

RE: krrpt

The jew controls the media. We do not. The jew media is omni-present and surrounds us on a daily basis. The jew media is financially self-sustaining because of the commercials that the herd is ultimately influenced by. And in turn these ads in the media are paid for by the revenues generated by the consumer spending of the lemming. Therefore, the lemming ultimately pays for his own brainwashing. The jew has devised a clever scheme whereby we build and reinforce our own mental prison.

This is the formidable and dark reality that we face.

It is unrealistic to believe that we can even get in the ring with such a formidable adversary and have the slightest chance of winning.

There is never only one solution to a problem. We are limited only by our own creativity to come-up with solutions. Here’s a quick idea......why bother getting into the ring with the jew, why not just blow-up the ring? There! See how easy it was for me to offer-up an alternative solution! Maybe instead of knocking my solution, you could squeeze a brain cell or two to come up with your own ideas.

The NSM feels that they have a solution and they are attempting to work their solution. What is the point of criticizing them? Wouldn’t it make more sense to join them and work within the group to help them see the value of your objections via constructive criticism, rather then to throw rocks at them? I’m talking about earning the right to be heard by the NSM. It’s the mature thing to do.

The NSM isn’t the only pro-White group out there trying to fight the jew menace. But it seems that whenever they try to garner support from us, there are those who seem to be frothing at the mouth to bash them. We are right to bring these hyper-critical people into question as to their motive for attacking fellow Whites instead of them being gracious and magnanimous by supporting them with kind words of encouragement.

If you don’t care for the NSM, that’s your prerogative. But is it so difficult to understand that we must fight the jew on many levels and not just with your myopic view of how the jew should be fought?

Let me show you the way......Attack jew........Don’t attack White men.

At times like this I am glad to have good comrades 5.000km from the USA because the level of abuse and debate within the White power movement is terrible.

OK, so the NSM is not perfect and you might expect us NS activists to have sympathy with the organisation. But I cannot see how useful the Minutemen are because if you use your brains for less than a minute then we determine that RACE is everything and Nation less important. Minutemen are operating on a national-conservative basis. Immigration and race are totally bound up. If 20 million white Germans moved to the USA would there be a problem? Obviously not.

Too many ideologes within the US "pro-white" movement are sort of national conservatives too concerned about flying the masonic dishrag, which is not a flag of race. America is beyond saving; America is Jewish control, McDonalds, coca cola and fat obese people and a corrupt system trying to fuck the world. Hald the posters here seem to revel in American "superiority" and their thinking doesn't even extend to the borders they claim to want to defend! True, the NSM embarrasses those who are afraid to get into the streets. If you don't want to wear a uniform why not turn up in greater numbers and march behind a banner reading "White Resistance."

I can tell you people this: when the scum of the left and antifa operate they operate together. Yes, they fight but us Nazis are the biggest common enemy against whom they unite with less and less success as we grow. Learn from them and stick together for RACE.

Minutemen are not klan. The reason the enemy hates them seemingly so much is to make the real opposition look even more extreme. It's all a system ploy, just as Stormfront, Duke and Nat Vanguard are system tools. All power to the real revolutionary frontfighters!

If you don’t care for the NSM, that’s your prerogative. But is it so difficult to understand that we must fight the jew on many levels and not just with your myopic view of how the jew should be fought?




Thats just it, these motherfuckers are not fighting the jew or anyone else for that matter they are clowns and thier leader is a Pedo
name one fucking thing these cunts have done for the betterment of our race
Now Im talking about NSM and not any other org.

At times like this I am glad to have good comrades 5.000km from the USA because the level of abuse and debate within the White power movement is terrible.

OK, so the NSM is not perfect and you might expect us NS activists to have sympathy with the organisation. But I cannot see how useful the Minutemen are because if you use your brains for less than a minute then we determine that RACE is everything and Nation less important. Minutemen are operating on a national-conservative basis. Immigration and race are totally bound up. If 20 million white Germans moved to the USA would there be a problem? Obviously not.

Too many ideologes within the US "pro-white" movement are sort of national conservatives too concerned about flying the masonic dishrag, which is not a flag of race. America is beyond saving; America is Jewish control, McDonalds, coca cola and fat obese people and a corrupt system trying to fuck the world. Hald the posters here seem to revel in American "superiority" and their thinking doesn't even extend to the borders they claim to want to defend! True, the NSM embarrasses those who are afraid to get into the streets. If you don't want to wear a uniform why not turn up in greater numbers and march behind a banner reading "White Resistance."

I can tell you people this: when the scum of the left and antifa operate they operate together. Yes, they fight but us Nazis are the biggest common enemy against whom they unite with less and less success as we grow. Learn from them and stick together for RACE.

Minutemen are not klan. The reason the enemy hates them seemingly so much is to make the real opposition look even more extreme. It's all a system ploy, just as Stormfront, Duke and Nat Vanguard are system tools. All power to the real revolutionary frontfighters!


Except NSM are not revolutionary- they themselves claim that they intend to gain power via the legal electoral system. That levels the playing field enough.

The Minutemmen are accomplishing at least ONE goal of the the entire WN movement(which by contrast does nothing in terms of practical goals), without expending resources from the actual movement. Ergo they should be LEFT ALONE.

Thats just it, these motherfuckers are not fighting the jew or anyone else for that matter they are clowns and thier leader is a Pedo
name one fucking thing these cunts have done for the betterment of our race
Now Im talking about NSM and not any other org.

Outreach program that helps Whites that need aid.

NSM's appearance in Toledo led to niggers showing themselves for what they are along with the booting out of the nigger mayor.

Ok, those are two things. Would you like more examples.

By your postings I am inclined to ask just whose side are you on? You don't seem to have a problem with nonWhites or the jew bastards. No, your only problem and extreme anger are towards your own (if you are indeed White) who are active.

Get off your ass and make something better than NSM if you hate them so much.

Also, the guy that posted about Amerikwa being McDonalds and a beyond saving jew playplace is right.

I dont think that these "NSM" hurt the "Minutemen" one bit.

Infact they probably helped the "Minutemen".

You see, the anti-whites always call the "Minutemen" Nazi's.

What does a white-hater have to use as a slur to label the "Minutemen" when the real hollywood nazi's are present in full regalia?

:cheers:

Outreach program that helps Whites that need aid.

NSM's appearance in Toledo led to niggers showing themselves for what they are along with the booting out of the nigger mayor.

Ok, those are two things. Would you like more examples.

By your postings I am inclined to ask just whose side are you on? You don't seem to have a problem with nonWhites or the jew bastards. No, your only problem and extreme anger are towards your own (if you are indeed White) who are active.

Get off your ass and make something better than NSM if you hate them so much.

Also, the guy that posted about Amerikwa being McDonalds and a beyond saving jew playplace is right.


ARA incited the blacks to riot. Plain and simple. NSM claims "victory" no matter what happens- they live in a fantasy world.

National Socialism is by definition, theory and practice revolutionary and although not perfect the NSM's tactics are right and certainly worry the Orlando authorities and the Orlando media. There are two examples. If they are concerned enough to report what they also claim to be a "fringe" group of extremists then what is the problem?

I read Rockwell from an early age; the only American NS to write authoritatively and to gain respect from the older wartime generation who brought us to National Socialism. Rockwell's plans were revolutionary - after all, any open white resistance is revolutionary even if it tactically decides to use the ballot box. Hitler, the leader, was the greatest ever revolutionary. Even then, there were debates about the left-wing element that we now fight for here in Germany and which might be seen as different to 1930-40s National Socialist practice.

National Socialism provides us with a real worldview based on biology, on race, on reality. Truth is always revolutionary and encouraging white men and women in the USA to fight, to deprogramme themselves from Jewish control through the banner of street activity, community activity and building local units and organising locally is National Socialism in practice and is revolutionary.

To be a revolutionary you might even conclude that the pen is sometimes mightier than the sword! Every action against ZOG is the seed from which the mighty tree may grow.

I think that the NSM is doing a great job and following in a noble Rockwellian tradition of in their face street activity. If the local units that have developed can then work their magic locally, within the communities they draw from and put up candidates then they will gain further recruits through electoral though uncompromising means.

And that is White Revolution in ACTION!

In Toledo, images of white men being prepared to fight back against black crime and the red mob were beamed into millions of homes. A bigger achievement than the NA/NV/KKK or any of these other groups might have achieved.

Of course the NSM will claim victory. It is called National Socialist propaganda and to us German National Socialists working within the movement action is the most vital element of a living counter-revolution against degeneracy. Propaganda by deed!

The NSM in Toledo showed that there was a group prepared to stand up and oppose the blacks in the streets. Yes, it was just a start but as Metzger rightly adds, NSM activity can only increased the chances of threatened whites standing, as Rockwell said, "on a piece of ground that white people will have to stand on with us to survive." When race wars are fought we need the most extreme of the extremists to be with us. Not a bunch of tailor's dummies and all-American boys and girls from the Duke faction.

National Socialism is by definition, theory and practice revolutionary and although not perfect the NSM's tactics are right and certainly worry the Orlando authorities and the Orlando media. There are two examples. If they are concerned enough to report what they also claim to be a "fringe" group of extremists then what is the problem?


No their tactics are not revolutionary because they claim that they will only seek power via electoral politics. This is a two-party system. Nazis are hated in this country. End of story.

Outreach program that helps Whites that need aid.

NSM's appearance in Toledo led to niggers showing themselves for what they are along with the booting out of the nigger mayor.

Ok, those are two things. Would you like more examples.

.

No what i would like is someone to post an example who dosent pull facts outa thier ass

1. Your first fact is stupid all you did was rattel the niggers up everyone already knows what they are like

2. Jack Ford had the lowest aprovel ratings a sitting mayor has ever had BEFORE the fucking NSM clown march

Face it dumbFuck NSM didnt and never will get shit done

In Toledo, images of white men being prepared to fight back against black crime and the red mob were beamed into millions of homes. A bigger achievement than the NA/NV/KKK or any of these other groups might have achieved.

Had that image actually EXISTED- but that's not what happened. NSM was not allowed to march and was taken back to their vehicles by a police van. Over before it began.




The NSM in Toledo showed that there was a group prepared to stand up and oppose the blacks in the streets.

Except that never happened. They went there for the usual screaming match protest protected by police, but weren't allowed to march.

ARA incited the blacks to riot. Plain and simple. NSM claims "victory" no matter what happens- they live in a fantasy world.

Of course they do. thier leader is a Pedophile that means he spends most of time in a fantasy world why wouldnt he lead in the same way and those who follow him follow in the same way

No what i would like is someone to post an example who dosent pull facts outa thier ass

1. Your first fact is stupid all you did was rattel the niggers up everyone already knows what they are like

2. Jack Ford had the lowest aprovel ratings a sitting mayor has ever had BEFORE the fucking NSM clown march

Face it dumbFuck NSM didnt and never will get shit done

WHEW! We got a real BADASS here!! First of all, learn how to spell or get yourself some spell checking software, you illiterate fucking moron. Nothing damages our cause more than some IDIOT trying to make a statement he's clearly not educated enough to make. Secondly, drop the "tough guy" routine. Unless you have the power to jump through my monitor and beat my ass, then your really not a threat to me or anyone else.

If the NSM weren't doing anything, you fucking retards wouldn't have anything to bitch about. Seems you're all doing ALOT of bitching and sniping at the NSM these days. We're on top, so we expect it and find it flattering actually. Time will tell whether or not the NSM will get anything done or not, but this much is clear---You guys will still be at your keyboards giving the blow-by-blow. To each other, probably. :) How shameful is that? If you can do it RIGHT, if you can do it BETTER, then SHOW us!!! If you're not prepared to do that, then please just shut the fuck up!

Thats just it, these motherfuckers are not fighting the jew or anyone else for that matter they are clowns and thier leader is a Pedo
name one fucking thing these cunts have done for the betterment of our race
Now Im talking about NSM and not any other org.

Would you by any chance be a disgraced former member of the NSM?? Were you recently kicked off the NSM Forum? You sound a bit biased. :D You see, unlike VNN, the NSM removes people from their Forum for various reasons. Either a Forum member proves to be untrustworthy, immature, or they add little or no value to it. The NSM recently cleansed some of these people from the Forum. Judging by your few posts here, is it likely you were one of them? Your abhorrent spelling reminds me of someone who has just been cleansed..........went by the name USNN. Could you be one and the same??

ARA incited the blacks to riot. Plain and simple. NSM claims "victory" no matter what happens- they live in a fantasy world.

And what would One Primates Project or ARA have been doing had the NSM not had a rally in Toledo? There would have been no riot. Stop reaching and grasping, JP. You can do better than that.

And what would One Primates Project or ARA have been doing had the NSM not had a rally in Toledo? There would have been no riot. Stop reaching and grasping, JP. You can do better than that.


And what about all the times they show up and NOT riot? Is that also a victory for NSM?

[QUOTE='Two-Bit' Mathews]No what i would like is someone to post an example who dosent pull facts outa thier ass


You like to type that phrase even if you cannot spell "outta" or "their" properly but that still does not negate the facts I posted.;)

1. Your first fact is stupid all you did was rattel the niggers up everyone already knows what they are like


No, the first fact was about the Outreach program that the NSM women run and which I have donated to. Read the post again, Caesar.

Secondly, as I told JP, without NSM in town, there would not have been a riot, or attention drawn to the Polish folks that were receiving written death threats from the niggers. NOONE ELSE offered to help those people-not VNN, not SF, not White Revolution, the local cops, etc. NSM was the only group willing to stand up for those people. So, you need to sit down and shut the fuck up for a while. I have yet to see a decent, intelligent post out of you yet. I know that this forum tends to be a schoolyard sometimes, but you carry it to the extreme.

2. Jack Ford had the lowest aprovel ratings a sitting mayor has ever had BEFORE the fucking NSM clown march

That's ok. The election was along racial lines, as even the MSM admits. Further, look at the sample of emails that the NSM received even from people who do not agree with them at all. They are published on the site.


[QUOTE]Face it dumbFuck NSM didnt and never will get shit done

I guess we should all drop our NSM memberships and gather around you. What solutions do YOU have to save teh movement!!1

And what about all the times they show up and NOT riot? Is that also a victory for NSM?

JP, in this day and time, when any number of racialists get together and do a rally it is a victory, be it NV, SOS/Minutemen, Hal Turner or the NSM.

JP, in this day and time, when any number of racialists get together and do a rally it is a victory, be it NV, SOS/Minutemen, Hal Turner or the NSM.


Now who is grasping at straws? How the hell is a RIOT that destroys white peoples' property and puts them in harm's way a good thing?

Now who is grasping at straws? How the hell is a RIOT that destroys white peoples' property and puts them in harm's way a good thing?

Not grasping, I am just not as soft as you are.

The Katrina nigger mayhem brought a lot of new people to WN websites. I expect that Toledo did the same. The emails received by NSM are proof enough that the riots generated interest enough for someone to look up NSM's site and possibly others.

It may seem harsh to you that it requires such catastrophe and violence to bring our people around but that is their nature, to put off what must be done and to face problems squarely on. We in America dragged ass on the Barbary Pirates and even the Civil War stewed for years before war broke out.

In the case of teh movement!!1, people have to take an unpopular position when becoming involved (no matter how small the involvement), as far as society goes, anyway. That is a big step for people who tend to be more focused on leasing the newest Lexus or maxing the credit cards out. If it takes the blood and property of them or their family to get them involved, then so be it. I am not sqeamish about it. More or less, they have a choice; riot by gangs of niggers or the home invasion/rape/murder/robbery. You are just quibbling over large scale TNB. To me, it is all TNB and useful for proving the point that niggers are dangerous savage animals that must be returned t the wild.

I will leave jewwising people to such luminaries in the filed, such as Chain, Linder, MuadDib, Duke and brutus.

Not grasping, I am just not as soft as you are.

The Katrina nigger mayhem brought a lot of new people to WN websites. I expect that Toledo did the same. The emails received by NSM are proof enough that the riots generated interest enough for someone to look up NSM's site and possibly others.

It may seem harsh to you that it requires such catastrophe and violence to bring our people around but that is their nature, to put off what must be done and to face problems squarely on. We in America dragged ass on the Barbary Pirates and even the Civil War stewed for years before war broke out.

In the case of teh movement!!1, people have to take an unpopular position when becoming involved (no matter how small the involvement), as far as society goes, anyway. That is a big step for people who tend to be more focused on leasing the newest Lexus or maxing the credit cards out. If it takes the blood and property of them or their family to get them involved, then so be it. I am not sqeamish about it. More or less, they have a choice; riot by gangs of niggers or the home invasion/rape/murder/robbery. You are just quibbling over large scale TNB. To me, it is all TNB and useful for proving the point that niggers are dangerous savage animals that must be returned t the wild.

I will leave jewwising people to such luminaries in the filed, such as Chain, Linder, MuadDib, Duke and brutus.

I'm all for the NSM marching wherever they want, as long as its not my neighborhood. I don't want my house burned down by niggers so the NSM website can get a few extra dozen web hits.

Lots of shit gets people onto White Nationalist websites. I'm not impressed by that. Do you not see ANYTHING disturbing about an organization that loves to talk about courage, battle, and fighting, yet they insist that they are going to bring us victory via the electoral process. The same electoral process that COULDN'T even get the independents, reforms, or Greens into the White House. And somehow they intend to do this with endless rallies, when ANYBODY will tell you that the key to running for office is MONEY. Fundraisers, get it.

The publicity is short lived and easily forgotten by the public. Its funny the nsm is still clinging to the toledo "victory" when the media and general public have totally forgotten about it.

I'm all for the NSM marching wherever they want, as long as its not my neighborhood. I don't want my house burned down by niggers so the NSM website can get a few extra dozen web hits.

In Toledo the niggers knew what houses Whites were in and headed for them straightaway. Once they saw armed Whites at those homes, they moved on. Think about that for a minute. The niggers already knew what houses to go to. It does not necessarily take the NSM marching in your neighborhood for your home to be the target. What about the Katrina/New Mogadishu mayhem? A lot of Whites suffered during that one and the NSM was not marching in New Orleans.

My point was that a lot of Whites will not get their asses off the couch until the niggers are on their street. If it takes some Darwinism to bring about the best of our race, then so be it. Same with the race mixing whores. If they are that damned sorry, then they shouldn't be in our gene pool to begin with.

Lots of shit gets people onto White Nationalist websites. I'm not impressed by that. Do you not see ANYTHING disturbing about an organization that loves to talk about courage, battle, and fighting, yet they insist that they are going to bring us victory via the electoral process. The same electoral process that COULDN'T even get the independents, reforms, or Greens into the White House. And somehow they intend to do this with endless rallies, when ANYBODY will tell you that the key to running for office is MONEY. Fundraisers, get it.

NSM did start 88PAC, the first of its kind.

They plan on running candidates in the next election cycle.

WTF, JP? Do you think they are going to state that they don't believe in the process and that they are going to overthrow the government? That would be a stupid move for them but you act like they are wrong for not making a foolish statement like that.

RE: JP

Now who is grasping at straws? How the hell is a RIOT that destroys white peoples' property and puts them in harm's way a good thing?
Sometimes people need to have a fire lit under their ass to get them moving. Even though he fought for the wrong side, Major General William Tecumseh Sherman knew what it would take to get his message across.

As long as the media is controlled by our adversary, we can have little hope of a democratic solution. We are all cognizant of the fact that our politicians are elected by the media. And we are also well aware that no pro-White group will be allowed fair access to this closed and decidedly undemocratic sham and scheme that has become the American political process. It’s quite obvious that our adversaries will not relinquish one iota of his tight grip on the control of the media and this forces us to come face to face with the only rational option.

The longer we dwell upon our situation, the more confident we become with the understanding that only the most brutal and unforgiving thrust of a direct obliterating force will liberate us from these chains. The NSM is building this force.

Currently the door is still ajar and we do have First Amendment Rights. The NSM uses this last little advantage to it’s maximum potential, and to let Whites know that they are not left alone to defend themselves against the savage beasts. Publicly speaking out and taking the message directly to the people is the most powerful propaganda vehicle that we have. The NSM has the wherewithal to embrace this truth and act upon it.

Any slurs against the character of the leaders of the NSM are powerless to stop the momentum of their movement, because the movement is larger then any one or two men. I would suggest, instead of belittling those men, we should be encouraging them to grow into the greatness of that position that fate has seen fit to place them. They need our support. If in the past we have been slighted by them, we should be big enough to let it go. White man have always had the great capacity to rise to the level of expectations that we have of them.

NSM did start 88PAC, the first of its kind.

They plan on running candidates in the next election cycle.

WTF, JP? Do you think they are going to state that they don't believe in the process and that they are going to overthrow the government? That would be a stupid move for them but you act like they are wrong for not making a foolish statement like that.

Yeah that's plausible. Sure the Green Party,Independents, Reforms, and Libertarians can't make any headway with all their fundraising or Ross Perot's money, but NSM is going to do it with rallies.

In Toledo the niggers knew what houses Whites were in and headed for them straightaway. Once they saw armed Whites at those homes, they moved on. Think about that for a minute. The niggers already knew what houses to go to. .

Bullshit!!!! just another of your "out of your ass facts"
How in the fuck do you expect any one to belive you knew what they
had planned or did you have undercover NSM members posing as niggers to get info

Yeah that's plausible. Sure the Green Party,Independents, Reforms, and Libertarians can't make any headway with all their fundraising or Ross Perot's money, but NSM is going to do it with rallies.

Rallies appear to be the best avenue for right now. Why is that a problem? Every rally brings new members and publicity to the NSM. Perhaps this FACT troubles many so-called White Nationalists? No matter, the naysayers will never stop, nor will the NSM. Nobody is saying the NSM will WIN in 2008, just that they will RUN a candidate. I'd say the vast majority of NSMer's are in it for the long haul, so you can put your microscope down for now, J.P.

P.S. What exactly is involved with moving to Europe? Will you be an emigrant or will you be on a visa that can be renewed? Just curious. :)

Bullshit!!!! just another of your "out of your ass facts"
How in the fuck do you expect any one to belive you knew what they
had planned or did you have undercover NSM members posing as niggers to get info

You are a divisive idiot who still has not posted anything of significance. I will be glad when your jew ass is banned from here.

save teh movement!!1

haha, that's funny, "save teh movement!!1"
Where did that originate?

Yeah that's plausible. Sure the Green Party,Independents, Reforms, and Libertarians can't make any headway with all their fundraising or Ross Perot's money, but NSM is going to do it with rallies.

Not one of the parties you mentioned has a racial based political platform.

You may not like the NSM but they are rolling forward. No other racialist WN group is making the progress that NSM is making. One reason is that Bill White knows that keeping the NSM in the news is important.

BTW, did Comrade White get banned from VNN? It would be interesting to read what his thoughts are on the subject.

haha, that's funny, "save teh movement!!1"
Where did that originate?

JP, as far as I know. He is the first one I saw using it and, in the proper context, I thought it was pretty funny.

Not grasping, I am just not as soft as you are.

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FUCK YOU you have done maybe 1/10 for our cause that JP has
go ahead and do a little digging and you'll see for yourself .fact is you spend so much time with these useless NSM cunts you have begun to think EVERYONE is just talk and lies

FUCK YOU you have done maybe 1/10 for our cause that JP has
go ahead and do a little digging and you'll see for yourself .fact is you spend so much time with these useless NSM cunts you have begun to think EVERYONE is just talk and lies

This is not about JP. I am aware of what he has done. This is about your lunacy and ignorant postings. Yes, I do think that you are talk and lies and spreading hate and discontent.

Have a nice day.:box:

Originally Posted by deathtozog
In Toledo the niggers knew what houses Whites were in and headed for them straightaway. Once they saw armed Whites at those homes, they moved on. Think about that for a minute. The niggers already knew what houses to go to.


Bullshit!!!! just another of your "out of your ass facts"
How in the fuck do you expect any one to belive you knew what they
had planned or did you have undercover NSM members posing as niggers to get info


Yea well you still wont tell us where you get all your facts other then your ass go ahead just keep going after the messenger

Not one of the parties you mentioned has a racial based political platform.

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Uh yeah you see in American politics that's actually a disadvantage, and wearing the faux SA uniforms compound that problem further.

FUCK YOU you have done maybe 1/10 for our cause that JP has
go ahead and do a little digging and you'll see for yourself .fact is you spend so much time with these useless NSM cunts you have begun to think EVERYONE is just talk and lies


OOOOOOOH no.... don't bring me into this


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Do you know that you have made over 120+ posts in the last 24 hours?

OOOOOOOH no.... don't bring me into this


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i didnt that dumbfuck lier did ....of course then he said it was all about me WHATEVER just more bullshit he pulled outa his ass

i didnt that dumbfuck lier did ....of course then he said it was all about me WHATEVER just more bullshit he pulled outa his ass

Two-Bit,

Are you positive your old Navy ass(USNN) can cash the checks your mouth is writing?

Now who is grasping at straws? How the hell is a RIOT that destroys white peoples' property and puts them in harm's way a good thing?

That was the fault of the police, who decided to let the riot "burn out" on it's own. There were enough law enforcement there to handle the rioters. It's their fault they chose not to, not the NSM's. You know better than that, J.P.

One asks whether JP really knows anything about National Socialism. It is revolutionary and if a group chooses to try and use remaining elements of the jew system against itself, as per the NSM, then what is the problem with that?

What we seem to have here are supporters of something called "White Nationalism". I suggest to anyone here that that term is a contradiction in terms and I am not sure who suggested it in the first place but it sounds to me like another US national-conservative "cop out". To be pro-white you must be pro-white everywhere. That's what the socialist part of "National Socialist" means. We understand that. Why don't Americans, or have they watched a John Wayne movie too many?

Nationalism is pro-nation and the biggest enemy of the white race as it divides us into easy controlled nation states in hock to jewish financiers and the capitalist system. We are enemies of capitalism. "White Nationalism" is a joke term if you come to think about it. You are either pro-white, or, for example, pro-America, pro-German, pro-Italian. Unless we stop thinking about nation and start thinking about race I fear we are doomed.

Watering down ideology tends to water down practice. And this can clearly be seen by posters like JP and others here attacking the only group getting lots of headlines and providing a banner behind which whites can unite. I think it is pathetic that your greatest post-war leader's words and actions (Rockwell, again) are ignored by a new generation who thinks it knows better.

In Chicago and other cities in the 60s, when movement infrastructure was much less than now, the SWASTIKA was the banner behind which pissed off whites united. In the many places the NSM is operating and, I should say, picking up new units and members, the swastika probably provides the only real banner for white people to militate behind.

Rockwell, a great American, developed the ideology of White Power. And still, 40 years later, we have squabbles between national and neo-conservatives who would rather follow money-grabbing plastic surgery tailor's dummies who squander their supporters assets on gambling! Amazing! Fucking amazing. They seem to be more concerned about the cut of their suit and virtually non-existent "media image" than anything else and it is so clear that the US movement as evidenced by this message board is in an ideological and tactical MESS!

All they can do is shoot the messenger and the message of National Socialism. Let me tell you, friends, that you wouldn't last five seconds in Europe!

If you really love your race, Americans, even if you don't want to wear a uniform, you will get your stinking asses down to Orlando, or up to Olympia or Michigan to support the NSM. Call yourself a white man? Then ACT like a white man...

Time is short, comrades.

One asks whether JP really knows anything about National Socialism. It is revolutionary and if a group chooses to try and use remaining elements of the jew system against itself, as per the NSM, then what is the problem with that?

The first answer is, "obviously more than a lot of people here". NSM will not be elected ANYWHERE in the United States, period. I realize you are in Germany and there is the coalition system there but you know that is not how our system works. People are not going to vote for guys in pre-war Nazi uniforms. There is no debate here. You have an excuse because you live in Europe right now; but what I cannot stand our the people that live here right now, and have lived their entire life here, and they will actually blind themselves to all reality so that they can believe NSM is going to win a major election where other third parties haven't for decades.

EVERY single racialist I have ever met, at times, is aware of the hatred toward everything "Nazi" in appearance. But what happens from time to time with these people is that there is a short-circuit in their brain and they will sometimes pretend as though that isn't the case- that they could win some kind of election.



What we seem to have here are supporters of something called "White Nationalism". I suggest to anyone here that that term is a contradiction in terms and I am not sure who suggested it in the first place but it sounds to me like another US national-conservative "cop out". To be pro-white you must be pro-white everywhere. That's what the socialist part of "National Socialist" means. We understand that. Why don't Americans, or have they watched a John Wayne movie too many?

White Nationalism, as a broad term to mean all ideologies that seek to create racially-based Aryan nations- is fine. White Nationalism as a specific ideology as it is currently being defined by people like John Joy Tree, Don Black, and some others IS nothing but paleoconservatism. I have seen signs that they day is coming when "White Natioanalists"(those who follow this "ideology") will accept and embrace gays before Aryan Bosnian Muslims. Such is their cowardly nature that they would rather attack "Islam" than deal with racial issues.


Nationalism is pro-nation and the biggest enemy of the white race as it divides us into easy controlled nation states in hock to jewish financiers and the capitalist system. We are enemies of capitalism. "White Nationalism" is a joke term if you come to think about it. You are either pro-white, or, for example, pro-America, pro-German, pro-Italian. Unless we stop thinking about nation and start thinking about race I fear we are doomed.

Been noted before.



Watering down ideology tends to water down practice. And this can clearly be seen by posters like JP and others here attacking the only group getting lots of headlines and providing a banner behind which whites can unite. I think it is pathetic that your greatest post-war leader's words and actions (Rockwell, again) are ignored by a new generation who thinks it knows better.

Where have I advocated "watering-down" the ideology? I was just banned from Stormfront FOR THE SECOND TIME for demanding that we NOT "water-down" the ideology and take the path of least resistance. America is not 1930s Germany. Americans aren't going to elect Nazis. The American constitution stands in the way of most of their policy. That's it. You can write all you want about what Hitler did this time or that time but that's the way it is- they will not achieve, nor have they achieved, any significant political victory whatsoever, no matter how many headlines they receive. If you cause a big commotion, you will get attention, that's the way it works here.


In Chicago and other cities in the 60s, when movement infrastructure was much less than now, the SWASTIKA was the banner behind which pissed off whites united. In the many places the NSM is operating and, I should say, picking up new units and members, the swastika probably provides the only real banner for white people to militate behind.

And that led to....


Rockwell, a great American, developed the ideology of White Power. And still, 40 years later, we have squabbles between national and neo-conservatives who would rather follow money-grabbing plastic surgery tailor's dummies who squander their supporters assets on gambling! Amazing! Fucking amazing. They seem to be more concerned about the cut of their suit and virtually non-existent "media image" than anything else and it is so clear that the US movement as evidenced by this message board is in an ideological and tactical MESS!

Rockwell also let complete idiots join his organization because he trusted that the uniform and discipline would keep them in line. Till one of those idiots shot him.


All they can do is shoot the messenger and the message of National Socialism. Let me tell you, friends, that you wouldn't last five seconds in Europe!

NSM would not last 5 seconds in Europe. I've been to Europe, and oh shit! I happen to be moving there next MONTH! America, is not Europe, do you understand?



If you really love your race, Americans, even if you don't want to wear a uniform, you will get your stinking asses down to Orlando, or up to Olympia or Michigan to support the NSM. Call yourself a white man? Then ACT like a white man...

Time is short, comrades.

Time IS short, which is why we cannot waste time dicking around in the street with a bunch of chest-beaters with an inferiority complex. Everything they do contradicts the nature of National Socialism as espoused by Mukherji , Jordan, and Riis-Knudsen. They were all European.

Two-Bit,

Are you positive your old Navy ass(USNN) can cash the checks your mouth is writing?




What the fuck are you talking about dumbass I was never on your stupid little forum or a member of your uniform cult Now your just making yourself look stupid ..there are plenty of people who hate NSM and thier pedo leader.
To say it is because Im jelous or a former member Is the same as saying I secretly desire the very thing I say I hate the most ...... a very jewish tactic Are you a jew RoguePostman or just another stupid fucking NSM member?

I guess he doesn't see how masses of white people can't say, DAMN! Hmmm...maybe...good for them!

When these white men march through nigger neighborhoods and say ENOUGH! Even the soccer moms who voted for Bush, these "defense moms" get behind them. I've seen it.

Come to think of it you should 'move' to Europe. That way we never get to see you at any American rallies.

Cowards run and hide. I could go to Norway tomorrow and be free of niggers, for maybe a few years.

We are going to take back the greatest country in the history of the world, and the domino effect will hit all white lands.

When these white men march through nigger neighborhoods and say ENOUGH! Even the soccer moms who voted for Bush, these "defense moms" get behind them. I've seen it.

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When? , where? why do you NSM fucks keep making up these stories
(rhetorical question) you do it because your all fakes and with those made up uniforms no dif. then those Queers that dress up in leather ,just a fucking sub-culture Exsept in your cases your harming our cause

I guess he doesn't see how masses of white people can't say, DAMN! Hmmm...maybe...good for them!

When these white men march through nigger neighborhoods and say ENOUGH! Even the soccer moms who voted for Bush, these "defense moms" get behind them. I've seen it.

Come to think of it you should 'move' to Europe. That way we never get to see you at any American rallies.

Cowards run and hide. I could go to Norway tomorrow and be free of niggers, for maybe a few years.

We are going to take back the greatest country in the history of the world, and the domino effect will hit all white lands.

On that I agree... Besides, why in the hell would any sane WN want to leave to world's biggest nuclear superpower in the hands of a bunch of sociopathic Zionist Jews and their willing lackeys?

Anyway westernalliance i thought you were leaving to go over to stormfront like a Little bitch
thats what you were whining to that girl over at civil forum

The jew controls the media. We do not.


True, but this was not always the case. The Jews gained control of the levers of power over time. I don't suggest infiltration as a viable strategy for us however. I'm a firm believer in the idea of parallel institutions. Slowly but surely we are seeing more and more high quality media oriented efforts emerging. The October Sun Films "A Line in the Sand" is a perfect example. In my view that documentary has the potential to reach and persuade more people than all the years of NSM's stunts combined.


We are right to bring these hyper-critical people into question as to their motive for attacking fellow Whites instead of them being gracious and magnanimous by supporting them with kind words of encouragement.


Critique, not criticise. Granted, there's often a fine line between them but critique can be used as a positive feedback loop. I admit that in the case of the NSM I usually have a visceral negative reaction and respond with criticism. Their tactics raise all sorts of questions in my mind. Sometimes I wonder if it's a false flag organization filled with unwitting agents. You know, "the devil is the best thing the church ever had" and all that.

RE: krrpt

Critique, not criticise. Granted, there's often a fine line between them but critique can be used as a positive feedback loop. I admit that in the case of the NSM I usually have a visceral negative reaction and respond with criticism. Their tactics raise all sorts of questions in my mind. Sometimes I wonder if it's a false flag organization filled with unwitting agents. You know, "the devil is the best thing the church ever had" and all that.
Yes, we can wonder all we like about the motives of other White people, as well as we should. But publicly we should give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. It’s the White thing to do.

Because of the reality that we’ve all been raised in a jew controlled cesspool, our human relations skills toward one another have been eroded accordingly. For many, it takes a concerted effort to act magnanimous toward our fellow White instead of parroting a jew sitcom putdown snippet. When I read many of these anti-NSM posts I can only imagine that it’s Rosanne Barr typing those words.

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Come to think of it you should 'move' to Europe. That way we never get to see you at any American rallies.

Cowards run and hide. I could go to Norway tomorrow and be free of niggers, for maybe a few years.

We are going to take back the greatest country in the history of the world, and the domino effect will hit all white lands.


Idiot, going to Europe isn't about running away; it's about recognizing where the more intelligent, politically inclined people are, and where change is more rapidly possible. If you want to march around in uniforms and actually SEE success, YOU ought to go to Europe- because in many European countries party uniforms may not still be the norm; but they are still commonplace.

All your posts smack of the same reoccuring theme inherent in almost EVERY post from NSM or pro-NSM people. It's always about "COURAGE" and "IN THEIR FACE!" and "COWARDS"! That bizarre NEED to be feared or impress others is why NSM is more about serving the egotistical needs of its members rather than actually winning at anything.

NSM's "plan", if you can call it that, reminds me of an old 4chan meme:

PLAN TO VICTORY!

1. March around in Nazi uniforms
2. ?????????
3. Political victory! America is OURS!!!!


And of course all the posts of their fans look something like this:

NSM Supporter: NSM IS OUT IN THE STREETS FIGHTING THE JEW AND IN THE TRENCHES UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS A COWARD WE ARE FIGHTING FOR VICTORY AND WE WILL LEAD A REVOLUTION IN AMERICA WITH OUR COURAGEOUS FIGHTING AND BATTLE JUST LIKE HITLER!!!1

Other person: How will you take power?

NSM: By winning federal elections!!!!

Political Primer:

Modern America:
Population is heavily mixed racially and ethnically
White population has little sense of identity
Holocaust propaganda- hatred toward anything related to the Third Reich
Rampant individualism- libertarianism
Materialism
Strong economy
Political/historical education level DANGEROUSLY LOW
Two-party system

Interwar Germany:
Population relatively homogenous, at least racially
Population had strong sense of identity, bitterness about losing a war due to national pride
No Holocaust
Social values- not so individualistic
Weak economy, failure of contemporary government apparent to all
Political/historical education very HIGH
Multi-party system
Uniforms and paramilitary organizations commonplace at the time


Political situations may change in America along these lines; but they will NEVER equalize. Modern America will NEVER be interwar Germany- so any attempt to EMULATE a party that succeeded in another country, in another time period, is folly. Now some of the tards out there are going to freak so let's put this in detail:

IT IS THE IDEOLOGY OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM THAT CAN BE EMULATED, WITH ADJUSTMENTS AS PRACTICAL, NOT THE NSDAP. THIS EXCLUDES ALL ACTIVITIES OF THE NSDAP THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, STILL PROVE PRACTICAL OR ARE OTHERWISE UNIVERSALLY SUCCESSFUL.

Once more for the slower folks.

IT IS THE IDEOLOGY OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM THAT CAN BE EMULATED, WITH ADJUSTMENTS AS PRACTICAL, NOT THE NSDAP. THIS EXCLUDES ALL ACTIVITIES OF THE NSDAP THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, STILL PROVE PRACTICAL OR ARE OTHERWISE UNIVERSALLY SUCCESSFUL.

What the fuck are you talking about dumbass I was never on your stupid little forum or a member of your uniform cult Now your just making yourself look stupid ..there are plenty of people who hate NSM and thier pedo leader.
To say it is because Im jelous or a former member Is the same as saying I secretly desire the very thing I say I hate the most ...... a very jewish tactic Are you a jew RoguePostman or just another stupid fucking NSM member?

Well, you strike me as a very fucked up and embittered person, so anything is possible I guess. Have you tried Prozac or Ritalin??

Idiot, going to Europe isn't about running away; it's about recognizing where the more intelligent, politically inclined people are, and where change is more rapidly possible. If you want to march around in uniforms and actually SEE success, YOU ought to go to Europe- because in many European countries party uniforms may not still be the norm; but they are still commonplace.

All your posts smack of the same reoccuring theme inherent in almost EVERY post from NSM or pro-NSM people. It's always about "COURAGE" and "IN THEIR FACE!" and "COWARDS"! That bizarre NEED to be feared or impress others is why NSM is more about serving the egotistical needs of its members rather than actually winning at anything.

NSM's "plan", if you can call it that, reminds me of an old 4chan meme:

PLAN TO VICTORY!

1. March around in Nazi uniforms
2. ?????????
3. Political victory! America is OURS!!!!


And of course all the posts of their fans look something like this:

NSM Supporter: NSM IS OUT IN THE STREETS FIGHTING THE JEW AND IN THE TRENCHES UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS A COWARD WE ARE FIGHTING FOR VICTORY AND WE WILL LEAD A REVOLUTION IN AMERICA WITH OUR COURAGEOUS FIGHTING AND BATTLE JUST LIKE HITLER!!!1

Other person: How will you take power?

NSM: By winning federal elections!!!!

We look forward to you forming the "perfect" white nationalist organization in Europe, J.P. Please keep us posted, and pray tell bring your genius and success back to our shores, won't you??

JP makes some interesting points but is mistaken if he believes that Jordan didn't advocate wearing uniforms and espousing open National Socialism. His World Creed for the 1980s was an important document for European NS in the 1980s.

Not sure about Ris Knudsen. And neither Denmark nor Norway are "nigger free", as you may discover if you come here!

It matters not whether Germany was relatively racially homgeneous before 1945 or whether America is racially "mixed". (Still has a white majority though and I thought you were interested in their taking back their country.......) National Socialism IS a world creed for white people at all times and is a banner behind which whites have united and can unite. I don't see the NA/NV or Klan providing any type of real focus over there and only the NSM doing anything and picking up support from ex-NA units disgusted with all the silliness and also working with Klan groups, etc.

As to Stormfront I wouldn't waste my time with it!

So we shall see what emerges via the NSM activities. All good things, I hope! But the message to pro-white forces is that hiding is not really an option. and the sight of 200 Nazis marching through US streets should get the media in a spin!

We look forward to you forming the "perfect" white nationalist organization in Europe, J.P. Please keep us posted, and pray tell bring your genius and success back to our shores, won't you??

Ah yes, another NSM-brand false dichotomy. An organization must be totally perfect or NSM! I would not have to start an organization to put NSM or the entire American movement to shame. Russian National Unity already does that and has been around for over a decade. In fact, seeing that their numbers were for a long time about 100,000(including a large number of military personnel), they actually outnumbered the entire American organized movement even when the NA was at its height.

JP makes some interesting points but is mistaken if he believes that Jordan didn't advocate wearing uniforms and espousing open National Socialism. His World Creed for the 1980s was an important document for European NS in the 1980s.

Yes but like all real National Socialists, Jordin knew what had to change with the times.


Not sure about Ris Knudsen. And neither Denmark nor Norway are "nigger free", as you may discover if you come here!

Well neither state is National-Socialist; but Riis-Knudsen and his party have a lot more sway there than NSM will ever have here. Again that is due to their coalition-system.


It matters not whether Germany was relatively racially homgeneous before 1945 or whether America is racially "mixed". (Still has a white majority though and I thought you were interested in their taking back their country.......)

It DOES matter especially when combined with the other factors in the equation. What this means is that nearly every white American has a number of relationships with various non-whites in their life. This makes it VERY hard for them to sever those relationships when the time comes. This severance can be accomplished through ample education and support groups- but not by Faux-Nazis having rallies.



National Socialism IS a world creed for white people at all times and is a banner behind which whites have united and can unite. I don't see the NA/NV or Klan providing any type of real focus over there and only the NSM doing anything and picking up support from ex-NA units disgusted with all the silliness and also working with Klan groups, etc.

You need to separate National Socialism from the NSM and NSDAP. An ideology is not a party.


So we shall see what emerges via the NSM activities. All good things, I hope! But the message to pro-white forces is that hiding is not really an option. and the sight of 200 Nazis marching through US streets should get the media in a spin!

Maybe, but nothing will happen. NSM plays right into the hands of those who want the average American to stare at the screen and say: "There ought to be a law against them Nazis!" As an ideology, National Socialism is supposed to conform to the laws of nature- one of them being the time-space continuum. That means that a National Socialist should recognize his or her specific time period, location, and the crucial details of both before acting. To emulate a past party, and assume that somehow one will go from random rallies to the same success as that other party, is foolish.