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Stan Sikorski
February 20th, 2006, 01:28 AM
Jew judge, which way do you think he'll decide?

http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060219-064821-9955r

Judge to decide on circumcision for boy, 8

CHICAGO, Feb. 19 (UPI) -- An Illinois judge has halted the circumcision of an 8-year-old boy while his father contests the mother's plan for the operation.
Cook County Circuit Court Judge Jordan Kaplan granted a temporary restraining order on the operation Friday, the Chicago Tribune reports, but to preserve the child's privacy the newspaper isn't releasing names.
The 31-year-old mother has said two doctors agreed with the circumcision, saying it will prevent medical problems.
The 49-year-old father fears it will harm his son both emotionally and physically. He called it an "unnecessary amputation."
Circumcisions, usually performed on newborns, aren't common worldwide and have ebbed recently in the United States where about 60 percent of boys now get the procedure compared to 90 percent in 1970.
The American Academy of Pediatrics now takes a neutral stance on the issue, leaving it up to parents.
Critics of circumcision call it a human rights violation and unnecessary, while those in favor say it is healthy for males.

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February 20th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Jew judge...

Stan Sikorski
February 20th, 2006, 03:34 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-060217circumcise,1,7209239.story?coll=chi-newsroom-hed

Circumcision decision delayed by court


By Judy Peres
Tribune staff reporter
Published February 17, 2006, 7:55 PM CST

A Cook County judge Friday ordered a mother not to circumcise her 8-year-old son until the court can hear arguments from the child's father, who opposes the operation, and decide whether it is in the boy's best interests.

The mother, a 31-year-old homemaker from Northbrook, says two doctors have recommended the procedure to prevent recurrent infections. Her ex-husband, a 49-year-old building manager who lives in Arlington Heights, calls the operation an "unnecessary amputation" that could cause his son physical and emotional harm.

The Tribune is not naming the parents to protect the child's privacy.

Circumcision, in which the foreskin of the penis is surgically removed, usually before a newborn leaves the hospital, was extremely common in the U.S. during the last century. But the percentage of U.S. babies being circumcised has gone down from an estimated 90 percent in 1970 to some 60 percent today.

The American Academy of Pediatrics no longer recommends routine neonatal circumcision but says the decision should be left up to the parents.

In recent years, the procedure has come under fire from a small but vocal group who believe it is the equivalent of female genital mutilation. They argue, in an increasing number of legal challenges, that the procedure is medically unnecessary and morally indefensible.

There are no published U.S. opinions to serve as precedents for the current case, and legal experts said it likely would be determined based on the best interests of the child.

Both sides appeared Friday in Cook County Circuit Court, where the father asked Judge Jordan Kaplan for a temporary restraining order against his ex-wife. His attorneys, John D'Arco and Alan Toback, argued that the couple's divorce agreement provided that the father had to be consulted before any non-emergency medical care.

Kaplan got the two sides to agree that the child would not be circumcised "until further order of [the] court." He also ordered them not to discuss the case with their child.

The mother's attorney, Tracy Rizzo, said the father had scared the child by telling him horror stories about what can happen to boys who are circumcised.

According to Dr. Irwin Benuck, a pediatrician at Children's Memorial Hospital, and Dr. Clare Close, a pediatric urologist at the University of Chicago Hospitals, circumcision is an outpatient procedure and any discomfort is usually gone in less then a week.

"Complications are pretty rare," said Benuck.

In England, a Muslim father in 1999 lost his battle to have his 5-year-old son circumcised against the wishes of the mother, with whom the child lives. (Jews and Muslims circumcise their sons for religious reasons.) A judge ruled that circumcision was not in the child's interests and might traumatize him.

Stan Sikorski
February 20th, 2006, 03:42 AM
In searching for a pic of kaplan, i ran across this:

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brutus
February 20th, 2006, 03:54 AM
The boy is 8 years old! Why does the mother insist on circumcision at this late age? They only mention that it would be necessary as a precaution against infection and not as a remedy for an existing problem. If there is no immediate medical necessity, the obvious solution who be to allow the child to make his own decision when he is of legal age to do so.

The mother seems oblivious to the emotional trauma the boy will suffer because he will be fully aware that they are going to cut his dick? And by that fact alone, it makes this mother guilty of child abuse and she should have the boy taken away. Furthermore, the authorities should award custody to the father who shows love, compassion, and understanding toward his son.

Any judge who rules otherwise should be hung by his dick from the nearest tree.

Next case!

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 08:36 AM
That mother is absolutely insane! The judge should make it so that the only way she can have her son circumsized would be for her to first undergo female circumcision. Let's see how much the bitch pushes for it then. :mad:

SMG3000
February 20th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I am also whole-heartedly against circumcision as a barbaric psycho-sexual practice from the Middle East.

You know, the mother could be a real crazy bitch, and might be doing this as a way to get back at her husband, as she knows he is against it, physical and psychological pain and suffering of the son being an ingredient in her revenge. Some women really are that sick. She might also work for law enforcement.

A jewish judge? He or she may suggest the gentile child be cut in half like in the bible.

Mcintosh
February 20th, 2006, 07:23 PM
I am also whole-heartedly against circumcision as a barbaric psycho-sexual practice from the Middle East.


So you think that there are no benefits to it?

The judge should make it so that the only way she can have her son circumsized would be for her to first undergo female circumcision. Let's see how much the bitch pushes for it then.


Wrong, they are not the same thing and should not be grouped together.

The mother seems oblivious to the emotional trauma the boy will suffer because he will be fully aware that they are going to cut his dick?

Uncircumcised males are unhealthy and rather disgusting, in this day and age there is no reason to be uncircumcised.

New Order
February 20th, 2006, 07:27 PM
The whole reason for circumcision in USA was so that the jew couldn't be identified as easily as they had been in Europe.

MOMUS
February 20th, 2006, 07:31 PM
The mother is likely a jewess. You would think she would have insisted that he be mutilated as an infant.

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Uncircumcised males are unhealthy and rather disgusting, in this day and age there is no reason to be uncircumcised.
Do you spend a lot of time comparing cut to uncut penises? :eek:

Uncircumcised males are the way nature intended them to be. How the hell is it more healthy to chop off a big chunk of sensitive foreskin than to just leave the penis the way it was at birth?

MOMUS
February 20th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Genital mutilation is genital mutilation no matter the sex of the victim. Just as murder is the same no matter the sex of the victim. Shoot a man in the chest or a woman in the breast and they're just as dead.
What gives you the right to approve mutilation for one gender and not the other? Some jews?

So you think that there are no benefits to it?



Wrong, they are not the same thing and should not be grouped together.



Uncircumcised males are unhealthy and rather disgusting, in this day and age there is no reason to be uncircumcised.

Mcintosh
February 20th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Uncircumcised males are the way nature intended them to be. How the hell is it more healthy to chop off a big chunk of sensitive foreskin than to just leave the penis the way it was at birth?

There is a reason why uncircumcised males are called cheese heads, you might want to read up on it.

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 07:44 PM
Wrong, they are not the same thing and should not be grouped together.

Do elaborate. I don't see how cutting off a chunk of a man's genitals is any different than cutting off a chunk of a woman's genitals. Actually, the only difference is that in this country, the public is appalled at the thought of mutilating a woman, yet has no problem with routinely cutting up men.

Mcintosh
February 20th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Do elaborate. I don't see how cutting off a chunk of a man's genitals is any different than cutting off a chunk of a woman's genitals. Actually, the only difference is that in this country, the public is appalled at the thought of mutilating a woman, yet has no problem with routinely cutting up men.

So now de cliting a woman is the same as removing a SMALL section of skin from around the penis? I guess it is just you americans but up here in canada it is something like 90% of males are circumcised.

Omega Man
February 20th, 2006, 07:48 PM
Mcintosh Said:

So you think that there are no benefits to it?

No, there are no proven benefits to it. In fact, circumcision can cause a loss of sensitivity during intercourse and orgasm.

Wrong, they (male/female circumcison) are not the same thing and should not be grouped together.

They are the same in that both are forms of genital mutilation.

Uncircumcised males are unhealthy and rather disgusting, in this day and age there is no reason to be uncircumcised.

What the fuck are you talking about? How are uncircumsized males "unhealthy" and digusting? Are you attracted to circumsized males or what??? :eek: Or did your Calgary hooker tell you this? In this day and age, there is no reason to continue with ancient jewish genital mutilation.

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 07:49 PM
There is a reason why uncircumcised males are called cheese heads, you might want to read up on it.
I don't need to "read up" on anything that has to do with uncircumcised men. My husband is uncircumcised, so I have contact with an unmutilated penis every single day. The "cheese" that you mention isn't an issue as long as one follows basic hygiene.

wpwpww88
February 20th, 2006, 07:50 PM
If a hooknosed hebe with a knife came towards my 8 year old son he would lose a few pounds of flesh. :box:

varg
February 20th, 2006, 07:51 PM
You'd cut his nose off? :cheers:

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 07:54 PM
So now de cliting a woman is the same as removing a SMALL section of skin from around the penis? I guess it is just you americans but up here in canada it is something like 90% of males are circumcised.I'd be willing to bet that the majority of men in America are circumcised at birth. That doesn't make it a good practice. Any genital multilation that is not desired by the targeted individual is bad. What right does anyone have to make that choice for another person, especially if the procedure is medically unnecessary? Let the child grow up natural.... if he later desires to have himself circumcised, he is free to do so. But once you cut it off, that's it.

Omega Man
February 20th, 2006, 07:57 PM
The "cheese" that you mention isn't an issue as long as one follows basic hygiene.

Exactly. A step by step guide for Mcintosh: When showering in the morning or after work in the evening, peel back the foreskin, soap and rinse. Dry off with a clean towel. No "cheese" under the foreskin nor anywhere else on the body.

antiZOG
February 20th, 2006, 09:11 PM
One must consider that a person who defends routine circumcision, in the face of the facts, may be in denial.
Yes, denial.
In the case of a male who was circumcised at birth, he may be struggling against the idea that what was done to him was wrong. It's irreversable -he can't change it. So he denies..and enrgetically attacks the case of those against circumcision.
In the case of a mother who ok'd a circumcision -again -denial, folowed by a barrage of every flimsy half-baked argument that she can conjure up to try and defend her mis-judgement. Facing the truth is just too painful for some people.

SMG3000
February 20th, 2006, 10:05 PM
There is a reason why uncircumcised males are called cheese heads, you might want to read up on it.

There is a reason why Canadians are called "goddamn Canadians" too.

Circumcision removes more than fifty percent of the skin, and that is the most sensitive area. That "cheese" is anti-bacterial and is one of the reason all animal males have foreskins, to protect against infection.

Canadians like being circumcised as a homage to their master the jew. Canadians are self-flagellating pyschopaths. Do you really care so much to be indistinguishable from the crowd? No wonder you have so many Chinese moving into your country, it's a model of totalitarian conformity.

Pixi
February 20th, 2006, 11:26 PM
I must admit, McIntosh is the first so-called WN male that I've seen who not only approves of circumcison, but who also declares that uncut men are disgusting.

Anima Eternae
February 20th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Uncircumcised males are unhealthy and rather disgusting, in this day and age there is no reason to be uncircumcised.

Thankfully you're wrong, and the trend is reversing.

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of men in America are circumcised at birth. That doesn't make it a good practice. Any genital multilation that is not desired by the targeted individual is bad. What right does anyone have to make that choice for another person, especially if the procedure is medically unnecessary? Let the child grow up natural.... if he later desires to have himself circumcised, he is free to do so. But once you cut it off, that's it.

Well put. Usually it's the dad who wants it done so his kid will "be like him" (mine was no exception, thankfully my mother refused).

Rob Roy MacGregor
February 21st, 2006, 12:08 AM
I must admit, McIntosh is the first so-called WN male that I've seen who not only approves of circumcison, but who also declares that uncut men are disgusting.
Hmmm...

Maybe he smelled the dick-cheese one too many times? :eek:

dianedeutsch
February 21st, 2006, 12:33 AM
I must admit, McIntosh is the first so-called WN male that I've seen who not only approves of circumcison, but who also declares that uncut men are disgusting.

Very strange.

Honestly I didn't have an opinion either way on infant mutilation up until a few years ago...I saw it as a common procedure. Until I was pregnant with my own son. My husband demanded we have our son circ'd (because of the whole "I want him to look like me" bullshit) and because of that, I started reading anything I could find on the subject. I won that battle.:box:

As far as those with non-mutilated genitals being disgusting or unclean....did your mommy tell you that so you'd feel better about having a mutilated penis? Or did you come to this conclusion on your own, by examining other mens genitalia that hadn't been tampered with?

SMG3000
February 21st, 2006, 05:07 AM
Now I feel bad about attacking Mcintosh. I didn't expect anyone to agree with me, so I felt I had to make up for it.

Kaalkop
February 21st, 2006, 10:27 AM
Most likely McIntosh is Christian Identity. In the literature of Dan Gayman, among others, this procedure is seen as religious law.

dianedeutsch
February 21st, 2006, 10:38 AM
Most likely McIntosh is Christian Identity. In the literature of Dan Gayman, among others, this procedure is seen as religious law.


That may very well be. But I don't recall seeing anything in the bible or other religious documents saying that an uncircumcized penis is disgusting or unhealthy. A bond/covenant with a higher being perhaps, but nothing about how it looks.

BTW, for McIntosh. In this day and age, there is no reason for a White male to be circumcized. Men have access to showers everyday, as long as they understand basic hygiene, being unclean should not be an issue..whether circ'd or not. Removing part of the body for strictly aesthetic reasons is barbaric at best.

Pixi
February 21st, 2006, 02:37 PM
Most likely McIntosh is Christian Identity. In the literature of Dan Gayman, among others, this procedure is seen as religious law.For some reason, I just can't picture McIntosh as being the religious type. I dunno, what does CI have to say about the chronic use of prostitutes?

SMG3000
February 22nd, 2006, 12:52 AM
... Our external genitalia are more complicated...

No kidding. Could those things be any more complicated? :eek: I had a sixty page manual with me and gave up after two hours.

Mcintosh
February 22nd, 2006, 07:05 PM
No, there are no proven benefits to it. In fact, circumcision can cause a loss of sensitivity during intercourse and orgasm.

Wrong, that is nothing more then propaganda. Show me a credited study that backs up your claims.

In this day and age, there is no reason to continue with ancient jewish genital mutilation.

Wrong again the jews are not the only people who traditionally perform circumcision.

The "cheese" that you mention isn't an issue as long as one follows basic hygiene.

That is a big if.

Exactly. A step by step guide for Mcintosh: When showering in the morning or after work in the evening, peel back the foreskin, soap and rinse. Dry off with a clean towel. No "cheese" under the foreskin nor anywhere else on the body.

Sorry but unlike you I am not like a big lipped nigger walking around with a primitive penis.

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:08 PM
Sorry but unlike you I am not like a big lipped nigger walking around with a primitive penis.

Indeed. You must have Penis v.2.0.7.

Better watch out. They're still beta-testing that one.

varg
February 22nd, 2006, 07:10 PM
Maybe his penis "software" has "bugs" (ie crabs)

Thats what he gets for having visits with "opensource" clients and not using a "firewall"

Mcintosh
February 22nd, 2006, 07:13 PM
Canadians like being circumcised as a homage to their master the jew. Canadians are self-flagellating pyschopaths. Do you really care so much to be indistinguishable from the crowd? No wonder you have so many Chinese moving into your country, it's a model of totalitarian conformity.

All this coming from an american! You asshole americans are hated around the world and are 100% controlled by the jewish powers, your economy is going down the drain with your dolla falling at record levels. You might want to read up on your deficit and see just how close you morons are to defaulting on your debt payment, when this happens there will be an economic fallout like the great depression.

PS. The "small" section of skin you refer to is small because it's taken off a 7-lb. BABY. A grown man's foreskin is approx. 15 sq. inches. Look it up.

Hahahaha 15 square inches!

Most likely McIntosh is Christian Identity. In the literature of Dan Gayman, among others, this procedure is seen as religious law.

You are so wrong.

I dunno, what does CI have to say about the chronic use of prostitutes?

Or how a majority of women are no useless in our society.

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:17 PM
Or how a majority of women are no useless in our society.

Apparently there's at least one who serves a purpose: She takes your money so you can get off. Give that girl a medal!

Mcintosh
February 22nd, 2006, 07:19 PM
Apparently there's at least one who serves a purpose: She takes your money so you can get off. Give that girl a medal!

Atleast she makes money out of the deal, most women now days or whores as I call them give it up for a couple of drinks.

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:22 PM
Atleast she makes money out of the deal, most women now days or whores as I call them give it up for a couple of drinks.

Ahem.

A whore is a woman who fucks you for money.

Mcintosh
February 22nd, 2006, 07:23 PM
A whore is a woman who fucks you for money.

So when the average white bitch goes to a bar/club and fucks for a couple of drinks and a paid cab ride home what do you call that?

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:30 PM
So when the average white bitch goes to a bar/club and fucks for a couple of drinks and a paid cab ride home what do you call that?

A slut, of course.

It makes no sense... Why have sex with a guy for free, even if you like him, when you could be getting paid.... how much is it that you pay your hooker per hour again?...to do it.

Stupid women. :(

Bardamu
February 22nd, 2006, 07:41 PM
How many remember the series that ran on early VNN by some woman who claimed the male foreskin could be grown back. Step by step instructions were included. What was the name? :D :D :D

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:52 PM
This was before my time, but I believe the articles were by Elizabeth Bennett.

Haha, yup, that's the one.

Pixi
February 22nd, 2006, 07:55 PM
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/index291.htm

Now I'm going to talk about a subject that fills me with pain. It's very difficult for me to tell you the whole, horrible truth, without hiding from reality to make ourselves feel better. If you are circumcised, but have emotional warmth and rationality Intact, what I'm about to say will be gut-wrenching. You will feel like hunting down the doctor who Cut Off the end of your penis, and torturing him. After you count to 100, you will feel like going to the root of the problem: Housecleaning the Jewish Parasites and Dumb Lemming Goyim out of this country. Citizenship is a privilege, not a right.

If you are circumcised, you have been Sexually Mutilated. You are unable to have sex with a woman in anything close to a normal way. "Lovemaking techniques" and "communication" are tiny band-aids over the gaping wound that is your relationship. Your circumcision is the giant, bloody, severed ox head on the table, rotting and filled with maggots, that everyone, including your parents, ignores, while politely sipping cocktails and pretending everything is normal. You must face the fact that you were Sexually Mutilated (by Establishment Rapists in White Coats), go through a grieving process, and take steps to correct the damage that has been done to you, to the best of your ability.

Only 1% of the world's human males are circumcised. And the vast majority of these are Semites (Jews and Arabs) and Americans. Unlike Jews and Arabs, Americans are the only people who sexually mutilate their sons for "non-religious" reasons. In America, Puritanical Rationalization and Pseudoscience is our Religion.

Circumcised Sex = Dysfunctional Sex

For basic information about what "circumcision" is and how it Destroys Sex, please visit these two web pages:

http://www.cirp.org/library/procedure/plastibell/

http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/

Read it yet. Good. Take a deep breath. You're safe inside your home now. Have NOT read it yet? Follow the links and read! You MUST.

Jews go to even more sadistic levels of violence when they skin the baby's dick and slice off the covering. They take a sharp metal knife, or a spiny wooden stick, and scrape it repeatedly over the covering of the bloody infant's nubbin, while it screams, defecates, chokes, and faints. This is to ensure the head of the penis is so scarified, no cells that can produce mucus remain. The process is called "Periah" and gained popularity during the Roman Empire, to stop adult Jewish men from "uncircumcising" themselves through a method similar to that which Bigelow recommends in his wonderful Uncircumcising! book. After Periah, the sick Jewish mohel takes the infant's bloody, scarified little dick in his mouth, and sucks it vigorously in a rite called Metzitzah. That's right: They're the only tribe that practices Infant Fellatio as part of their Sexual Mutilation Rights.

Not Tonight, Honey

Having sex with a circumcised man is uncomfortable for a woman, and this discomfort (often pain) quickly trains her to avoid sex. She make excuses, like "I have a headache," "I'm too stressed-out about housework," or more honestly "I have a bladder infection/cystitis," or "I feel chaffed," or "I feel bruised from last time."

In an Intact Man, the head of the penis is not "red bumpy skin," but a mucus membrane, much like the inside of a woman's vagina. A layer of mucus only four cells thick separates his raw nerve endings from his wife's vagina or the slick inside of his erogenous foreskin. Masturbation doesn't require lotion, soap-and-water, or Vaseline. Nor does it require jerking the penis with rough, forceful energy. Most often, he can have a climax from a light touch. So he can masturbate, or have sex with his wife, eight times in one day -- without the shaft of his penis feeling "sore," "mashed" or "desensitized." In a Sexually Mutilated Man, what used to be the inside of his foreskin is tightly stretched, and has fused onto the shaft of his penis (it's everything below the red circumcision scar). Both the re-attached foreskin and the head have been thickened by a rough layer of shriveled, leathery scarring, or "keratinization" -- the body's clumsy attempt to seal a ripped-open mucus membrane that is exposed to abrasion from diapers, underwear, bedding, and drying from the air. You might conclude that circumcised sex is much rougher, clumsier, and dramatically limited in variety, compared to Intact Sex. You would be right. The two cannot even be compared. They are different activities.

Foreskin has about a half million nerve endings, or dendrites (1/3 of the nerve endings in the penis). Its surface area is on average 15 inches square, or half the surface area of the penis. The inside of it feels like a woman's vagina, because it is a wet mucus membrane against the wet, waxy, mucus-covered head. The sensation of the foreskin retracting and moving forward against the glans, is impossible to explain to a circumcised man -- but possible for a woman to identify with. It's a full-spectrum, shimmering, infinitely-dimensional feeling of pleasure, like that of the labia and hood of the clitoris and clitoris gliding against each other -- both sheath and shaft can be felt simultaneously -- sort of like experiencing sex as it feels to the penis and vagina both at the same time.

An Intact Man has an Intact Frenulum, or extremely dense bundle of nerves where the foreskin attaches to the penis. He is sometimes able to have a climax only by touching this wet, engorged nob on his dick. It's analogous to the female clitoris. In circumcision, the male clitoris is amputated.

His foreskin is not "hard to take care of" or "smelly." Once a day in the shower he spends about five seconds pulling the foreskin back and rinsing underneath it. But a thin coating of mucus and day-old smegma make the head of his penis feel slippery, like Astroglide or K-Y jelly, to a woman -- as opposed to a dry piece of rubber or plastic dildo, like a circumcised penis.

Foreskin contains unique pheromone glands found nowhere else on the body, that about 30% of women could consciously notice, when sitting next to him on the couch, or standing near him. The other 70% are only subconsciously affected by these airborne sexual chemicals, and feel an increased sense of well-being, relaxation, and sexual arousal in his presence. A circumcised man is more neuter in this respect. He smells more like a plastic manikin to a woman.

An Intact male enjoys being fondled and touched before intercourse just as much as a woman. He does not rush insanely to penetrate, so he can finally feel a smooth wet coating around the head of his penis. There is no disconnect between the two partners during foreplay. The sex act is not abbreviated.

Circumcision got started in America due to Jewish control of both the AMA and the media. They exploited the strong base of Goyim Puritanism in America to get their agenda of Big Lies across. Popular child-rearing books which sold 4 million copies before 1945 (Holt's Diseases of Infancy and Childhood and The Ideal Women -- For Maidens, Wives and Mothers, advocated circumcision to prevent -- gasp! -- that terrible sin: Masturbation. Here is a quote from Maidens, Wives and Mothers:

"Self-abuse lays the foundation for consumption, paralysis and heart disease. It weakens the memory, makes a boy careless, negligent and listless. It even makes many lose their minds: others, when grown, commit suicide. How often mothers see little boys handling themselves, and let it pass, because they think the boy will outgrow the habit, and do not realize the strong hold it has upon them! I say to you, who love your boys -- �Watch!' The victim is often very near death before you realize that he has done himself harm. It is worthy of note that many eminent physicians now advocate the custom of circumcision, claiming that the removel of a little of the foreskin induces cleanliness, thus preventing the irritation and excitement which come from the gathering of the whitish matter under the foreskin at the beginning of the glans. This irritation being removed, the boy is less apt to tamper with his sexual organs. This argument seems a good one, especially when we call to mind the high physical state of those people who have practiced the custom. Happy is the mother who can feel she has done her duty, in this direction, while her boy is still a child."

Orgasm is "self-abuse," enjoying is "tampering with," ecstatic pleasure is "irritation," and hiring a Jew in a "high physical state" to skin the end of your child's dick and cut it off is a "mother's duty" and shows "love." War is peace and freedom is slavery. You'd have to be high to do it, alright. Please pass the LSD.

�Watch!'

During Victorian times female circumcision was widely practiced, also to prevent masturbation. The hood of the clitoris, or sometimes the entire clitoris, was snipped off. Don't worry -- it's just a "skin tag." No big deal.

Americans have always been PURITANICAL. All of their mental problems and hang-ups, they attempt to make go away with all of their "�washes." The average American woman is so uptight she'll shove a tube of Summer's Evening / FDS flower-scented shit up her vagina three times a month, and inject it with a bunch of perfume and vinegar -- then wonder stupidly why her twat hurts... Why she has yeast and staff infections all the time. Cuckoo, Cuckooo-Crazy. Deoderant maxi pads. Red allergic rashes on a twat. An American phenomenon.

And how the Jews have exploited it.

They spread the Penile Reduction Surgery (Circumcision) among the stupidest Goyim first, by campaigning against masturbation and "smell." When those lies wore thin, they faked research: that smegma causes cervical cancer, that little boy's foreskin is hard to take care of (it isn't, it's fused to the glans until puberty and won't get infected or need to be retracted in the bath), or that to be a good lover, you have to have a tough, scarred-up penis so you can thrust really hard for a long time. In so many words: All lies. Total lies.

When the lie that foreskins cause cervical cancer was exposed, they said cervical cancer was caused by nothing, and everyone was at risk. They convinced the poor, virginal White Goyim to go to the gynecologist when she was 18, and get her hymen painfully stretched, ripped or torn when a sick robot in a white coat, shoved a speculum up her to do a "pap smear." "Get your pap smears every six months," we are told constantly. The poor girls died of humiliation and embarrassment -- it felt like a rape or a molestation, didn't it? Jewess Judy Bloom and her sick scatology books were very popular among teen girls, and they all spread the lie about the Pap-Smear Rite of Passage at Age 18. So did government school propaganda materials for grade school kids like The Weekly Reader. Sick gyno exams with a speculum-wielding Jew "Doc," robbed the first man they had sex with, of seeing and feeling a hymen and being sure they were a virgin. Their first penetration experience was from a Jew Gyno instead of a White Man they Loved. And how would you like the first man who gave you a "breast exam" to be a sick old Jew pretending to be afraid you might have "breast cancer," little Maiden? In reality, a lot of these girls were in so much pain they lost bladder control and urinated on the table. Mr. Spock in the White Coat briskly, efficiently continued, pretending to ignore it.

The truth is, cervical cancer (as well as penile cancer and bladder cancer in men) is caused by PMV, a "silent" incurable venereal disease, which like herpes, CMV, and all the other "silent" diseases, can be detected now with an inexpensive Digene genetic blood test. But most people still don't know the danger of these diseases to their future spouse and unborn children. They figure, if they're HIV-negative, they can go around boning as many chicks as they want, with no bad effects.

Don't "ask your physician" before lifting a pillow or beginning any exercise program. Don't "ask your physician" what the reasons are for skinning your infant son's dick and ripping it off. Don't ask your physician. Period. Ask yourself. Take responsibility for your own health, your own medical care, and your own thinking. And read VNN.

And don't bring your son into the hospital to have his tonsils out or his appendix removed. In most hospitals, the policy is to circumcise any child who's under anesthesia, under the catch-all "medical consent form" that signs away the right to do anything they want, without asking the parent. The Jews and the textbook-memorizing Goyim they "educated" in State-controlled "medical schools" control the hospitals. So stay out of them. Go to a naturopathic doctor or midwife, unless you need surgery, write NO CIRCUMCISION on the medical release form, and demand a copy of it. Never let a Jewish doctor operate on your folk. Remember, the Talmud says a Jewish physician is under no moral obligation to "do no harm" to a Goy patient. Non-Jews are animals and guinea pigs to Jewish doctors, says the Talmud.

What Sex with a Circumcised Man Does to a Woman

Without a foreskin and a smooth, wet glans to aid penetration, it feels a lot like being penetrated by a dry rubber dildo. When he starts thrusting, his penis scrapes methodically back-and-forth against the woman's urethra, introducing bacteria including e. Coli, which can be anything from uncomfortable, to excruciatingly painful. The sexual rhythm is "off" from what an uncircumcised man does, and a woman does with an object, to induce a G-spot orgasm. Afterward, the woman feels like she needs to pee REALLY BAD, because her sensitive urethra has been stripped of meatus and mucus, and severely abraided. After she pees, she still feels like she needs to pee REALLY BAD. She smiles and tries to pretend she enjoyed it -- because women are supposed to be really horny and enjoy sex just as much as men today, right?

Twelve to 36 hours later, she feels like she needs to pee EXCRUTIATINGLY BADLY. When she sits on the potty, hardly anything comes out of her bladder except a teaspoon full of blood and pus. She has a UTI (urinary tract infection), which our Jew medical establishment says is quite Normal in women. (How come women in Europe, South America, and Asia never get them?) "A woman gets a bladder infection every time she has sex, and this is normal because women's ureters are �too short,'" chirps the Jew. Seventy percent of American women get bladder infections from intercourse. Fifteen percent of American women have had so many bladder infections from having intercourse, that the lining of their bladder is dead. Absent. They feel like they need to pee EXCRUTIATINGLY BADLY 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. "I need to pee," becomes a chant in your ear. Car trips become impossible, there are so many pit stops. And this is "normal" says the medical establishment. It's a disease that very few women ever recover from: It's called Interstitial Cystitis (or "urethritis" or "female complaints"). It causes premature aging (as waste products seep back into the body through the bladder). It causes extreme stress. It causes HATRED OF MEN and THEIR DAMN SELFISH SEX DRIVE THAT HURTS ME LIKE HELL.

And it explains why Jewesses are even worse shrews than Jew men. It also explains (together with refined sugar) why yeast infections (from abrasion to vaginal lining) have spawned a multi-million dollar business in snake-oil "yeast infection" treatments like Monistat-7. Go to the grocery store. It takes up more shelf space than the contact solution, and costs $20 a pop. Now that's profit!! Hear the clink of all those shekels rolling in? It's almost as good as circumcision -- $800 in pure profit, for surgery that takes 10 minutes on a (formerly) healthy infant.

Once the woman's health is pretty much ruined from having sex with a Sexually Mutilated Abnormal Man, she can go in for "treatments" like Macrobid, which blocks estrogen and permanently destroys her bladder lining, or Keflex, which causes psychosis and tendon-rupture, or my personal favorite, DMSO injections. DMSO is laboratory sludge discovered by accident to be a painkiller. Urologists are wont to cathetorize women suffering from interstitial cystitis, balloon up their bladders as big as they can with a pump full of pain killers, rupturing all the bleeding open sores in the bladder that were beginning to heal, and send the anesthetized patient home for the day. About a week later, she comes back demanding another pain killer treatment, in pain so excrutiating she can barely walk. Now that's State-Controlled, Jew-Run Modern Medicine for ya. Don't we love those repeat visits and easy "office procedures?" I do.

After all this, women begin to complain, "I don't enjoy sex anymore," "I don't feel like it." New groups of crackpots appear to say, "Women are from Venus and men are from Mars," and "Women give out sex to get love," and "Women like foreplay, men like sex."

Really, these women would be better off reading Sex as Nature Intended It and the semi-helpful, but not root-cause You Don't Have to Live with Cystitis. And drinking some marshmallow root tea every morning instead of coffee. And giving their worn-out bodies a few years to slowly heal.

Sex as Nature Intended It includes hundreds of candid statements from a scientific survey of women, describing what sex is like with a circumcised man, and what it's like with an Uncut, Intact man. If you are circumcised and don't bother to read this book, you will not be motivated enough to go through the year-long process of uncircumcising yourself, and regaining a sense of wholeness. You are also proving to me you don't care about the woman's experience during sex. And you are afraid to face reality -- to face your biggest problems, and correct them as best you can.



The Good News: You can repair much of the physical damage that was done to you (although not all.) When you Uncircumcize yourself, you can market your sexuality as a man with a functioning, lubricating penis. You can market yourself as a man it doesn't HURT to have sex with. That puts you in the top 10% of American men aged 18-45. (There weren't any good-looking Frenchmen or Swedes in my neighborhood when last I looked.) If you set about Healing Yourself, you will make a Wonderful Mate for a High Quality Woman, who has probably never experienced anything other than chaffing sex.

Bardamu
February 22nd, 2006, 07:58 PM
That's her, Elizabeth Bennett. All you guys who resent have been clipped, not to worry, with a strong piece of tape, and a couple of years to spare, you can induce it to come back, just pull the tube skin firmly over your dickhead, and tape it into place, until it remembers and grows back :D

Omega Man
February 22nd, 2006, 09:54 PM
Mcintosh said:

Wrong, that is nothing more then propaganda. Show me a credited study that backs up your claims. See post #50 for starters. Not that you would bother to read anything that's posted.

Wrong again the jews are not the only people who traditionally perform circumcision. Right there. Shit-for-brains lemmings certainly perform unnecessary circumcision.

That is a big if. (basic hygiene) Maybe for your crusty ass. I, like most men, shower daily.

Sorry but unlike you I am not like a big lipped nigger walking around with a primitive penis. You really are a dumbass, aren't you? Using your own logic, a lobotomy would cure a "primitive" brain like yours.
http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/images/21/open_lobotomy.gif

You're slurring your posts. Have another beer. It's almost Friday and you can soon drive your money over to the crack ho. Bet you can't wait! Fat, drunk, stupid, circumsized and mentally unstable is no way to go through life, son.
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Kaalkop said:

Most likely McIntosh is Christian Identity.

No, I think he/it could be one of a couple of things:

1) A momma's boy whose deep hatred of white women originates from the time when his own mother would bring home "johns" to suck off. Little Mcintosh was at first aroused at the sight and he would hide in his room and beat off as momma sucked the indians and eskimos and truckers of Western Canada.

When she brought home niggers, something changed in little Mcintosh. Perhaps it was the odor of nigger sweat intertwined with his mammy's own sweat, lingering for days on end in the family living room as little Mcintosh sat on his couch watching intregrated Saturday morning cartoons and kids shows such as "Jonny Quest" and "Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp".

Little Mcintosh really hated this mother but after all, he's a momma's boy and a momma's boy knows that momma can do no wrong. So he instead focused his anger in another direction: Towards the various young white women he would meet. Having no class whatsoever, the momma's boy approaches the targat female and lays down some jive line he's seen on B.E.T.

A normal female sensing a loony tune, tells him to take a hike. She and others like her become "BITCHES". Suzy Rotten Crotch however digs the goofy dolt and takes him back to her place after a couple of beers. These women who invaribly do not want a relationship become "CUNTS" and "WHORES" (What the fuck is causing my piss to burn? wonders he). In his narrow circle of life experiences, there are no other types of females. There is a very good likelihood that he will eventually assualt, rape and possibly kill one or more of these women.

2) He could simply be a self-loathing cut-dick jew who can't piss straight ever since the Rabbi cut it.

SMG3000
February 23rd, 2006, 08:35 AM
That's her, Elizabeth Bennett. All you guys who resent have been clipped, not to worry, with a strong piece of tape, and a couple of years to spare, you can induce it to come back, just pull the tube skin firmly over your dickhead, and tape it into place, until it remembers and grows back :D

Well I don't know about her suggestions, but it does work. I did it (and still do it) and it works, even though it sounds incredible.
While you don't get as good as a replacement as the original tissue, it is still worth the trouble. I never heard of anyone who restores commenting that they regretted it, or that it wasn't worth it. Since at least a few hundred thousands of people seem to be doing it in the U.S., wouldn't one of them mention if it didn't work?

You don't realize what it is like to restore at least substandard tissue down there, it is awesome. It is best to use taping methods that compell the thinner inner skin to grow fastest, as that is much more springy and erogenous.

SMG3000
February 23rd, 2006, 08:38 AM
You were planning to clean a woman's genitalia, and needed a manual to do it? :D


Ew! Hell no. I think the problem was that she was Korean, and the instructions were in Chinese.

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 09:33 AM
Hahahaha is right. See

How large do you think the average penis is? That link is so full of shit I can not believe you posted it.

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 09:42 AM
Omega Man, like the average white trash moron you can not have a simple argument without ranting on about bull shit claims.

See post #50 for starters. Not that you would bother to read anything that's posted.

Right, since another so called WN linked/posted the information it must be true, I mean what does a PHD count for these days anyways when you have the internet?

Right there. Shit-for-brains lemmings certainly perform unnecessary circumcision.

Seriously you might want to look it up.

You're slurring your posts. Have another beer. It's almost Friday and you can soon drive your money over to the crack ho. Bet you can't wait! Fat, drunk, stupid, circumsized and mentally unstable is no way to go through life, son.

Sorry but I do not drink, I would love for you to come out here to alberta so I can see you working on service rig and actually accomplish something in your life and/or help out the economy.

Pixi
February 23rd, 2006, 10:27 AM
I mean what does a PHD count for these days anyways when you have the internet?
My magic 8ball tells me that you do not have a PhD. My magic 8ball is never wrong.

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 10:36 AM
My magic 8ball tells me that you do not have a PhD. My magic 8ball is never wrong.

I never said I did, I hate the fact that everyone thinks their opinion is right because they have some stupid little link that is full of wrong information that supports their outrageous cliams.

aussieboy
February 23rd, 2006, 11:03 AM
Thank heavens we do not genitally mutilate as many children in Australia as in other countries.

We have less jew doctors than the US.

We have plenty of water in Australia, and you can bathe or swim as much as you like. We are not dirty jews in a desert.

Ask you son whether he wants to be mutilated when he is a consenting adult, at the age of 18.

Anyone who commits this barbaric act on a defenceless child should be locked up in prison for a long time. This is savage and vicious child abuse.

Pixi
February 23rd, 2006, 11:11 AM
I never said I did, I hate the fact that everyone thinks their opinion is right because they have some stupid little link that is full of wrong information that supports their outrageous cliams.

Picking up on sarcasm isn't one of your specialties, is it?

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 11:14 AM
We have less jew doctors than the US.

The jews have nothing to do with it!

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 11:15 AM
Picking up on sarcasm isn't one of your specialties, is it?


You think, when I have been lied to my whole life.

Pixi
February 23rd, 2006, 11:18 AM
You think, when I have been lied to my whole life.
That's no excuse. I've been lied to throughout my whole life as well, and I still have a decent ability to recognize sarcasm.

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 11:22 AM
That's no excuse. I've been lied to throughout my whole life as well, and I still have a decent ability to recognize sarcasm.

Since that ability is such a high priority.

Pixi
February 23rd, 2006, 11:35 AM
Since that ability is such a high priority.
I hardly think that you are one to lecture me about high priorities. :eek:

Mcintosh
February 23rd, 2006, 11:43 AM
I hardly think that you are one to lecture me about high priorities.

I guess now days I can only use what I have at my disposal and since money is not an issue with me I see it as irrelevant.

aussieboy
February 23rd, 2006, 10:20 PM
The jews have nothing to do with it!

If you normalise a barbaric religious practice by pretending it is a medical practice, then you normalise the perverse jew religion.

grep14w
February 23rd, 2006, 10:59 PM
How many remember the series that ran on early VNN by some woman who claimed the male foreskin could be grown back. Step by step instructions were included. What was the name? :D :D :DAre you claiming that it can not be grown back? Because there are a lot of men who are "growing it back" so to speak, who would not agree with you; nor is this a new phenomenon. If you read your history, you will learn that back in the Hellenistic period there were a lot of Hellenized Jews who were embarrassed about being circumcised. They went to Greek gymns to exercise, and since they had to exercise naked, they wanted to get rid of their circumcision so they employed this "foreskin stretching" technique to "grow" their foreskins back. It was partly against these Hellenizing (that is to say, civilizing) Jews that Jewish religious fanatics like the Maccabees rose in rebellion against. So Elizabeth Bennett is entirely correct: you can "grow" (so to speak) your foreskin back, and people have been doing this for thousands of years. It's hardly a big secret or a "controversial" notion.

grep14w
February 23rd, 2006, 11:07 PM
That's her, Elizabeth Bennett. All you guys who resent have been clipped, not to worry, with a strong piece of tape, and a couple of years to spare, you can induce it to come back, just pull the tube skin firmly over your dickhead, and tape it into place, until it remembers and grows back :DI fail to see what is so funny about this topic.

If I had a choice I would not have wanted to be circumcised. I don't care enough about the topic to bother "growing" it back, since though the skin might "grow" back, the bundle of nerves that was once there are gone, and are gone forever and cannot be grown back.

This is no laughing matter and I find people who think it is funny to be frankly a little sick. Routine, non-religious, non-medically necessary circumcision of infants is a crime against nature at best, and a symbol of our mental and spiritual enslavement to the Jews at worst.

In a healthy white nationalist community anyone performing routine circumcision on infants would be rotting in jail, not earning six or seven figure incomes.

aussieboy
February 24th, 2006, 12:38 AM
I fail to see what is so funny about this topic.

If I had a choice I would not have wanted to be circumcised. I don't care enough about the topic to bother "growing" it back, since though the skin might "grow" back, the bundle of nerves that was once there are gone, and are gone forever and cannot be grown back.

This is no laughing matter and I find people who think it is funny to be frankly a little sick. Routine, non-religious, non-medically necessary circumcision of infants is a crime against nature at best, and a symbol of our mental and spiritual enslavement to the Jews at worst.

In a healthy white nationalist community anyone performing routine circumcision on infants would be rotting in jail, not earning six or seven figure incomes.

I would hope that there was some comfort for those who have been mutilated to have.

The genitaly mutilated are scarred for life.

So much was taken away from them.

Some hope is better than none.

Loss is something that inspires a range of emotion from disbelief, to anger, to hate, to acceptance, yet we must all take action to ensure that this loss must be prevented now.

Mcintosh
February 24th, 2006, 09:55 AM
If you normalise a barbaric religious practice by pretending it is a medical practice, then you normalise the perverse jew religion.

Since you will not listen aussieboy I think I hear a dingo eating your baby.

Bardamu
February 24th, 2006, 10:15 AM
I fail to see what is so funny about this topic.

If I had a choice I would not have wanted to be circumcised. I don't care enough about the topic to bother "growing" it back, since though the skin might "grow" back, the bundle of nerves that was once there are gone, and are gone forever and cannot be grown back.

This is no laughing matter and I find people who think it is funny to be frankly a little sick. Routine, non-religious, non-medically necessary circumcision of infants is a crime against nature at best, and a symbol of our mental and spiritual enslavement to the Jews at worst.

In a healthy white nationalist community anyone performing routine circumcision on infants would be rotting in jail, not earning six or seven figure incomes.

Well Grep Ive never worried much about being circumcised myself but I agree enough with antis that I wouldn't do it to my own sons. But to the funny part, that would be anybody crazy enough to listen to Elizabeth Bennett's preposterous advice. Lighten up, brother.

Mcintosh
February 24th, 2006, 12:05 PM
You circumcised "sexual cripples" out there need not try to put your boots under her bed.

And you un-circumcised "bacteria traps" need not allow a woman to have access to that disgusting cheese head.

Mcintosh
February 24th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Nice come back, post a stupid picture then log off.

Mcintosh
February 24th, 2006, 12:22 PM
I'm right here. How long are you going to run interference on VNNF?

Then why did your indicator say you were offline? Maybe it was clogged with cheese?

SUNOFSPARTA
February 24th, 2006, 12:32 PM
Judge to decide on circumcision for boy, 8


Ya,leave it to another guy in a black dress.Priest/Judge what's the difference.

lawrence dennis
February 24th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Maybe this is what Shakespeare was alluding to.... (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22merchant+of+venice%22+%22pound+of+flesh%22+penis&btnG=Google+Search)

Pixi
February 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM
And you un-circumcised "bacteria traps" need not allow a woman to have access to that disgusting cheese head.
Why are you so certain that uncut men are disgusting and cheesy? Don't Canadian men shower?

Pixi
February 24th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Then why did your indicator say you were offline?
"Invisible" is a good mode.

Maybe it was clogged with cheese?LOL.

Mcintosh
February 24th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Why are you so certain that uncut men are disgusting and cheesy? Don't Canadian men shower?

Humans in general are filthy and when you factor in human stupidity like the average person has I could not imagine what would be growing in their pants.

Now days if you are a competent person it does not really matter if you are cut or not but say 1000 years ago it would have been allot better for every male to be circumcised.

Johnny Boy
January 24th, 2011, 07:00 AM
Let me make a salient point or two here.

While circumcision is usually not necessary it is somewhat advisable from a cleanliness standpoint for little boys. Naturally as they get older with health classes in high school and of course the dating environment it really becomes a non issue.

Now let me relate a rather funny related experience. Back in the early 60's I served aboard the USS Enterprise and along with 2 other nuclear powered surface ships and we made an around the world cruise without refueling. Well one of our ports of call was Australia and to avoid problems a lot of the married sailors got themselves circumcised to avoid marital problems. The medical department was amazed at the number of chaps requesting to be circumcised. But in retrospect it rather makes sense to me. Personally I give these guys a lot of credit for going through that uncomfortable somewhat painful procedure to insure their fidelity.

It wasn't a problem for me though because I was single and my mom was a nurse and had me circumcised in the hospital before she brought me home. So far I survived fairly well and I'll be 66 next groundhog's day.

Now in relation to this 8 year old if there's no medical or religious need for a circumcision then I don't think it should be done, it's a significant trauma for an 8 year old who's not yet an adult and doesn't understand all the why's a wherefores of circumcision. I'm almost beginning to think this whole thing is a dispute between the parent and the kid is just unlucky enough to be in the middle of the battle. Kinda like a friendly fire casualty in battle.

That's my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, now don't you.

mael
January 24th, 2011, 10:43 AM
There is a reason why uncircumcised males are called cheese heads, you might want to read up on it.

Those who don't (know how to) wash might become 'ripe.'

Male or female, they can both stink.

Circumcision is only very rarely necessary. The male genitalia is as it shouuld be and does not need surgically altering.

- Same as excision for females, circumcision is most usually simply barbaric genital mutilation - and torture.

mael
January 24th, 2011, 10:49 AM
Hahahaha 15 square inches!

* It's about the size of a postcard.

mael
January 24th, 2011, 11:02 AM
How many remember the series that ran on early VNN by some woman who claimed the male foreskin could be grown back. Step by step instructions were included. What was the name? :D :D :D

It can be done ... I'm sure of it. It just takes a lot of patience and also a fair amount of discomfort and potential embarrassment.

I'm sure it's worth the effort. It won't be the same of course ... the natural foreskin releases chemicals which should keep the knob free from infection, as well as lubricant for ease of penetration.

People (like me) who got pretty much 100% of the foreskin lopped off would require much more time to re-grow the skin over someone who still has some loose skin around the glans.

* Out of four boys I was the only one who got cut!:( My mother said the doc said it was too tight - really??? A bit late now though.

Interestingly my brother, who is 47 got the snip a few months ago. I don't know all the details but for some reason his foreskin became tight and it was painful/impossible to have intercourse. He didn't want a surgical operation and I said he should try to get it trimmed over lopped off. But the specialist must have convinced him and he was operated on. So yes! Sometimes something goes wrong and it's a good job that it can be treated.

Much better for someone to have consented to circumcision knowingly, and that the op' was performed under anaesthetic - unlike babies.

Darius Appleby
January 24th, 2011, 11:54 AM
Excessive tightness of the foreskin is known as phimosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

If phimosis in older children or adults is not causing acute and severe problems, nonsurgical measures may be effective. Choice of treatment is often determined by whether the patient (or doctor) views circumcision as an option of last resort to be avoided or as the preferred course. Some men with nonretractile foreskins have no difficulties and see no need for correction.

Non surgical methods include:

Application of topical steroid cream, such as betamethasone, for 4–6 weeks to the narrow part of the foreskin is relatively simple, less expensive than surgical treatments and highly effective.[20][26][27] It has replaced circumcision as the preferred treatment method for some physicians in the British National Health Service.[28][29]

Stretching of the foreskin can be accomplished manually, with balloons[30] or with other tools.[31] Skin that is under tension expands by growing additional cells. A permanent increase in size occurs by gentle stretching over a period of time. The treatment is non-traumatic and non-destructive. Manual stretching may be carried out without the aid of a medical doctor. The tissue expansion promotes the growth of new skin cells to permanently expand the narrow preputial ring that prevents retraction. Beaugé treated several hundred adolescents by advising them to change their masturbation habits to closing their hand over their penis and moving it back and forth. Retraction of the foreskin was generally achieved after four weeks and he stated that he never had to refer one for surgery.[8][22]

Serbian
January 24th, 2011, 10:43 PM
There is absolutely no medical reason for this disgusting barbaric semitic practice. Mutilating you dick is not the Aryan way.

mael
January 25th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Topical steroid cream? Hmmm?! :cool:

Darius Appleby
January 25th, 2011, 02:18 AM
Topical steroid cream? Hmmm?! :cool:

It would make any skin thinner and easier to stretch.

Not really suitable for any application other than a tight foreskin.