View Full Version : What would a revolution look like? Just an intellectual exercise.
The Red Baron
December 1st, 2003, 02:05 PM
the red baron
Alex Linder
December 1st, 2003, 05:22 PM
I think most racists/racialists should work within the system to defend racial differences as an acceptable and rational belief about the world, and to make public policy based on this fact.
The problem with working within the system is that the System is organized around our illegitimacy. When we say that no, in fact the races are not equal, we are threatening the basis of the System, which treats men as fungible bipeds. The System is designed to exclude our views. Insofar as we can use the system against itself, we should, but ultimately we can only survive by replacing it with our own.
For instance, non-racists rightfully object that one can't judge every individual in a group based on the groups' predominant characteristics. We should accept this logic. Applied to immigration, it would work like this. You can't let every freaking piece of shit in the world into our country just to prevent from discriminating against those rare exceptions. So, we should essentially ban immigration from racially undesirable countries, defend the borders, but welcome the rare, exceptionally qualified. I think most Americans would be open to this kind of logic. And I wouldn't mind admitting one African doctor if it meant not allowing entrance to 100,000 degenerate Africans.
What Americans think doesn't matter. What matters is the opinion of the jews and NWO oligarchs who want sales districts rather than nations. Leadership is of one mind that, except for jews, race shall not be the basis of nation. All mass propaganda pushes in this direction. No genuine debate is allowed in the matter. Opposition to the NWO paradigm is criminalized as "hate." We must recognize who we are, and organize ourselves to protect our own interests, just as men have always done. Eventually we must physically destroy the jews controlling our governments. Jew control of tv and money-printing are the first facts of world politics in 2003, as they have been for roughly 100 years.
Roy Batty
December 1st, 2003, 09:28 PM
There are many different "looks" a revolution could take. But nothing will happen until the average American white is uncomfortable, to say the least. That means he realizes his back is up against the wall. Then the zhid's media control won't be a problem, because no one will be paying attention. Battling Juan and Theotis for some water and food will be the problem, and then all bets will be off. A general collapse is needed, and a general collapse is coming. All the intellectualizing that has been going on for years isn't going to amount to squat until most whites realize that they are in a fight. The jews in control know they are in a war, and conduct their activities in such a manner. When whites are forced into that realization, then change will occur. I harbor no silly ideas that this is going to be easy, or as quick as we would like - but when it happens, it will be quicker than many people think.
A real collapse means violent chaos in the streets. That means a lot of whites will be hurt and killed due to the brainwashing they've received since the cradle. However, out of that, more realistic views on things will take hold, to say the least. That's why we need to be ready. Some people worry about the armed forces, but given the make up of the real combat troops, elite forces, etc., infighting and the inevitable break up along racial lines will straighten things out in short order.
Yes, there's many other factors to consider. How would outside forces react? Would the Chinese attack us, for example? There's probably a better chance of them making a move on Taiwan, and that's not the white man's problem at this stage of the game. Let the Asians sort out their own mess, their own part of the world. Izzy firing warheads at us or Europe in outrage over the US breaking away from their tentacles is a more realistic worry. Imagine what would happen if whites simply confiscated the banks, and declared jewish holdings their own, and jews persona non grata - in effect, declaring the jews worthless? One can see why they were frothing at the mouth over Hitler. Yes, there's too many factors and variables to consider here, but nothing is going to happen until the average white is affected, hit hard. Most white people can't even connect how the Immigration Act of '65 helped open the door for today's illegal immigration debacle.
This post could go on for far too long, so better wrap it up for now. Yeah, the Southwest is a mess, parts of the South, as well as the Northeast are loaded with aware whites, but to be honest, most of "flyover" country gets a little bit of the real news, sees a little of what is happening here and there, but doesn't really know. Not yet. But it's coming right to their front doors. Most likely courtesy of a shaven headed, TB infected mestizo with an IQ just below that of a howler monkey. But they won't know who to thank for this apparition. At least not right away. But a few drive by shootings, rapes, murders, housing projects, $5 dollar an hour beaners driving $40,000 trucks, and inevitable race riots later, they'll have a better idea.
Worse is better in the long run for whites.
FREY
March 5th, 2004, 10:26 AM
There are many different "looks" a revolution could take. But nothing will happen until the average American white is uncomfortable, to say the least. That means he realizes his back is up against the wall. Then the zhid's media control won't be a problem, because no one will be paying attention. Battling Juan and Theotis for some water and food will be the problem, and then all bets will be off. A general collapse is needed, and a general collapse is coming. All the intellectualizing that has been going on for years isn't going to amount to squat until most whites realize that they are in a fight. The jews in control know they are in a war, and conduct their activities in such a manner. When whites are forced into that realization, then change will occur. I harbor no silly ideas that this is going to be easy, or as quick as we would like - but when it happens, it will be quicker than many people think.
A real collapse means violent chaos in the streets. That means a lot of whites will be hurt and killed due to the brainwashing they've received since the cradle. However, out of that, more realistic views on things will take hold, to say the least. That's why we need to be ready. Some people worry about the armed forces, but given the make up of the real combat troops, elite forces, etc., infighting and the inevitable break up along racial lines will straighten things out in short order.
Yes, there's many other factors to consider. How would outside forces react? Would the Chinese attack us, for example? There's probably a better chance of them making a move on Taiwan, and that's not the white man's problem at this stage of the game. Let the Asians sort out their own mess, their own part of the world. Izzy firing warheads at us or Europe in outrage over the US breaking away from their tentacles is a more realistic worry. Imagine what would happen if whites simply confiscated the banks, and declared jewish holdings their own, and jews persona non grata - in effect, declaring the jews worthless? One can see why they were frothing at the mouth over Hitler. Yes, there's too many factors and variables to consider here, but nothing is going to happen until the average white is affected, hit hard. Most white people can't even connect how the Immigration Act of '65 helped open the door for today's illegal immigration debacle.
This post could go on for far too long, so better wrap it up for now. Yeah, the Southwest is a mess, parts of the South, as well as the Northeast are loaded with aware whites, but to be honest, most of "flyover" country gets a little bit of the real news, sees a little of what is happening here and there, but doesn't really know. Not yet. But it's coming right to their front doors. Most likely courtesy of a shaven headed, TB infected mestizo with an IQ just below that of a howler monkey. But they won't know who to thank for this apparition. At least not right away. But a few drive by shootings, rapes, murders, housing projects, $5 dollar an hour beaners driving $40,000 trucks, and inevitable race riots later, they'll have a better idea.
Worse is better in the long run for whites.
Good post. Couldn't of said it better myself. This is the only way whites will wake up.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 5th, 2004, 04:04 PM
3 problems with "worse is better"
1. it excuses us from doing anything-- hey dude, just kick back, the system will collapse, and everyone will become racist! Let's have a beer.
2. why should people turn to "White" if times are tougher? The US government GAINED POWER UNPARALLED during the Great Depression. The JEWS more or less took hold of the government. Quite possibly, a severe pervasive social catastrophe would stamp out ANY resistance to the current elites whatsoever.
all the jews would have to do is open soup kitchens, and people would be lining up to be bar mitzvahed.
3. If you're the person who's fucked, if it's your kid who is starving, if it's your mom or sis or wife who gets gangraped by a pack of groids, are you STILL going to be saying "worse is better?" I guess if you're an atomized particle of a human being with no connections at all, hey, you can go hibernate in your basement stroking your barrell. Whereas, if you have a family to be concerned about, HARDSHIP sucks. Plus, back to number 2-- hardship is no guarantee of success.
Angler
March 5th, 2004, 04:06 PM
Great post, Roy. I have a few comments to add...
Some people worry about the armed forces, but given the make up of the real combat troops, elite forces, etc., infighting and the inevitable break up along racial lines will straighten things out in short order.Another thing people need to keep in mind is that the US military will never be able to use the full range of its weaponry (e.g., heavy weapons, bombs) in the more populated areas of the US. This is because US military, government, and law enforcement personnel and their families will be living amongst the hidden militants! Also, the US government cannot afford to damage its own infrastructure, and once its own soldiers or police are attempting to hold a specific area, that area obviously cannot be bombed. In short, any future "civil war" on US soil will be fought as a guerrilla war, and almost all of the weapons used will be small arms -- at least in the more populated areas. It will be like Iraq, but without any bombing or use of heavy weapons by ZOG.
Yes, there's many other factors to consider. How would outside forces react? Would the Chinese attack us, for example? There's probably a better chance of them making a move on Taiwan, and that's not the white man's problem at this stage of the game. Let the Asians sort out their own mess, their own part of the world. Izzy firing warheads at us or Europe in outrage over the US breaking away from their tentacles is a more realistic worry.Actually, the US would still be relatively safe from foreign attack during internal strife because of its nuclear submarines. If the Israelis or the Chinese ever tried to nuke us, they'd be wiped off the map very quickly by those subs.
In any case, once a collapse occurs (probably due to an economic crisis), our people must be ready to seize control. We need to have an general understanding of where to go and what to do when the event occurs, and definite goals need to be agreed upon by everyone ahead of time so that the need for communication is kept to a minimum once the ball starts rolling (the internet and phone services might not be available in a severe crisis).
Donnie in Ohio
October 12th, 2007, 08:20 AM
The problem with working within the system is that the System is organized around our illegitimacy. When we say that no, in fact the races are not equal, we are threatening the basis of the System, which treats men as fungible bipeds. The System is designed to exclude our views. Insofar as we can use the system against itself, we should, but ultimately we can only survive by replacing it with our own.
What Americans think doesn't matter. What matters is the opinion of the jews and NWO oligarchs who want sales districts rather than nations. Leadership is of one mind that, except for jews, race shall not be the basis of nation. All mass propaganda pushes in this direction. No genuine debate is allowed in the matter. Opposition to the NWO paradigm is criminalized as "hate." We must recognize who we are, and organize ourselves to protect our own interests, just as men have always done. Eventually we must physically destroy the jews controlling our governments. Jew control of tv and money-printing are the first facts of world politics in 2003, as they have been for roughly 100 years.
Alex, you wrote this almost 5 years ago. How does it read to you now? How much further have we went down the slope?
Mike Cooper
October 12th, 2007, 02:03 PM
War is always more infinitely complicated than you can conceive of, it's a trillion particles in chaos but all you see is a whiff of smoke, 100 million minds engaged in the struggle for their own life, and you aren't even fully conscious of your own mind's workings in the midst of the chaos.
the starters of wars are evil men, stupid men who have no talents or graces, they hate both sides and want to see children of both sides dead and in ruins.
steven clark
October 12th, 2007, 03:35 PM
James Howard Kunstler (THE LONG EMERGENCY), a big peak oil guy, made an interesting prediction. He said the northwest might easily become under asian influence because it would be at the mercy of Chinese or other asian forces that would use their ships to raid or control the ports. I wouldn't worry about foreign invasion, but rather if the system here becomes too weak, it would ask for the UN or the other powers to 'help intervene'. Chinese in San Francisco or Seattle as UN peacekeepers. Perhaps a Euro force in selected cities on the east. Cubans in Miami. Like the western powers did the Chinese empire when it was collapsing, everybody got on board to nibble away and suck some commerce while they could. Groups like the NATO and UN could easily be used as levers by the corporations to keep control. Certainly Mexico has no real military power, but it would go as far as it could if backed up by foreign money. It all depends, as we know, on how much the Americans would allow their country to be bargained off.
Mike Cooper
October 12th, 2007, 04:16 PM
He said the northwest might easily become under asian influence
are you kidding? the northwest might come under asian influence? The Chinese lobbyists write your freaking laws. You think like a caveman. Nuclear weapons are only there to extort money from other people in business transactions. Rich people want to die alot less than you do.
HighPlainsDrifter
October 12th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Let's look at some tactical points:
1. President Bush has stripped the armed forces from the U.S. This includes the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and National Guard. He's sending them to the other side of the world (inaccessible areas of Iraq & Afghanistan) so they aren't readily available here. The excuse is, that he has to conduct a nonsensical war and doesn't think a draft would be popular.
2. There's an ammo shortage in the U.S. Even the local cops can't get much ammo:
Ammunition Shortage Squeezes Police
Associated Press | August 18, 2007 (from military.com)
"...
An Associated Press review of dozens of police and sheriff's departments found that many are struggling with delays of as long as a year for both handgun and rifle ammunition. And the shortages are resulting in prices as much as double what departments were paying just a year ago.
"There were warehouses full of it. Now, that isn't the case," said Al Aden, police chief in Pierre, S.D. ..." (the article goes on to say that almost all calibers are affected)
3. The young White adults have reached the acme of brainwashing. Alex Linder and others already have reversed the tide of the propaganda war. The Duke rape case was the high tide of ZOG brainwashing, the propaganda "Pickett's charge" of ZOG. A Jewish detective cooked it up, seeing a delusional Nigger stripper (even the other Nigger stripper, plus ATM & cell phone records, exonerated the White men), a well-known schizophrenic, as his chance-of-a-lifetime to shaft the Aryan. Then the Aryan public prosecutor, Nifong, saw it as HIS chance-of-a-lifetime to help the Jews and ueber-Niggers hang themselves. Nifong was crypto-NS; he was channeling Heinrich Himmler. Nifong did almost as much for White youth, ideologically, as Rockwell did. ZOG is locking up every White orator in sight (Hale, Zuendel, Lindstedt, Strom, Walker) on absurd charges, but we've still got Linder, Lauck, Schoep, Miller and 6,000,000 more where they came from. Another crypto-NS, channeling Himmler, is Angela Merkel. That's why the German government put out that book promoting father-daughter pedophilia: it's time for ZOG to die in Germany, too, and that book is part of Merkel's effort to slay ZOG; it's like a satire of ZOG.
4. The U.S. Air Force has partly rebelled. The likeliest explanation for the Louisiana B52 nukes scandal is that the ZOG faction couldn't force the Air Force to nuke Iran and that mission was aborted, through mutiny or countercoup, depending on your point of view.
Conclusion: ZOG is out of time. They've set up some kind of D-Day invasion and the main landing is coming soon (D-day couldn't wait until '45 because German flak and jets were getting so good that even Oppenheimie's few puny A-bombs wouldn't have defeated Germany then; besides, the Germans could have retaliated with at least a few V2-borne radiological bombs on English and Soviet cities, plus nerve gas). The Mexican vanguard is here and the main Chinese/Israeli force is coming.
When almost all the traditional military, including the National Guard, is on the other side of the world, the cops have few bullets, and the White kids are as Niggerized as they're going to get, it's time for ZOG's trap to snap shut. It's now or never for ZOG. The number of traditional military can't go any lower, the cops never will part with their last few bullets, and next year's crop of kids isn't going to believe in the Holohoax as much as this year's.
Subrosa
December 4th, 2007, 04:35 AM
Great post, Roy. I have a few comments to add...
Another thing people need to keep in mind is that the US military will never be able to use the full range of its weaponry (e.g., heavy weapons, bombs) in the more populated areas of the US. This is because US military, government, and law enforcement personnel and their families will be living amongst the hidden militants! Also, the US government cannot afford to damage its own infrastructure, and once its own soldiers or police are attempting to hold a specific area, that area obviously cannot be bombed. In short, any future "civil war" on US soil will be fought as a guerrilla war, and almost all of the weapons used will be small arms -- at least in the more populated areas. It will be like Iraq, but without any bombing or use of heavy weapons by ZOG.
Actually, the US would still be relatively safe from foreign attack during internal strife because of its nuclear submarines. If the Israelis or the Chinese ever tried to nuke us, they'd be wiped off the map very quickly by those subs.
In any case, once a collapse occurs (probably due to an economic crisis), our people must be ready to seize control. We need to have an general understanding of where to go and what to do when the event occurs, and definite goals need to be agreed upon by everyone ahead of time so that the need for communication is kept to a minimum once the ball starts rolling (the internet and phone services might not be available in a severe crisis).
I think this is the most spot on analysis I've read here yet. The most likely scenario.
The ZOG has never been in a weaker position right now and we have never been less prepared. A little frustrating, to say the least.
Eventually we must physically destroy the jews controlling our governments. Jew control of tv and money-printing are the first facts of world politics in 2003, as they have been for roughly 100 years.
This is a must, but we have to gain control of Media no matter what it takes. Whoever controls the flow of information wins.
Subrosa
December 4th, 2007, 04:46 AM
Any revolutionary movement must have a Media Group within it, with Units in New York, LA and DC. It's sole mission in life would be to shut down the jewish propaganda machine. This Group would be working closely with the propaganda arm of the movement.
Donnie in Ohio
December 4th, 2007, 04:58 AM
Any revolutionary movement must have a Media Group within it, with Units in New York, LA and DC. It's sole mission in life would be to shut down the jewish propaganda machine. This Group would be working closely with the propaganda arm of the movement.
Media, local government, Legal system.
In any future "Mad Max" scenarios, Jews are target #1. Wherever they are found.
Subrosa
December 4th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Seems to me that jews would be target #1 just due to the fact they are so prominent in targeted areas. I myself want to get at the collaborators though. That is where their true power lies. Once it becomes too dangerous to collaborate with the jews they will become easier targets.
Donnie in Ohio
December 4th, 2007, 05:43 AM
Seems to me that jews would be target #1 just due to the fact they are so prominent in targeted areas. I myself want to get at the collaborators though. That is where their true power lies. Once it becomes too dangerous to collaborate with the jews they will become easier targets.
I had a buddy mention that it seemed that almost all the Hollywood writers who are on strike he saw protesting on the 'Vitz were Jews.:D Many wearing yalmulkas.:mad:
I do think the average 'Kwan is more aware of the Jew than he was say...25 years ago. It's because the Jew is, as always, overplaying his hand.
QuikSilver
December 4th, 2007, 08:18 AM
The revolution would look like something as described by William Pierce in the Turner Diaries.
That is under the assumption that whites actually get organized.
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