As we all know, Egypts greatest ruler, Rameses II, was a White man.

http://www.sangha.net/messengers/ramses2.gif

His wife(crazy as it may seem) was a White woman also, Queen Nefertari.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/ankh/nefertar.gif

Lets keep in mind, jews, antis, blacks, retards and queers that these are not "doctored" photos or evil White man lies designed to keep the helicopter inventing black man down but actual photographs from the Egyptian library of antiquity.

Pharaonic Sun Temple Found in Egypt
Sunday, February 26, 2006

CAIRO, Egypt — Archaeologists discovered a pharaonic sun temple with large statues believed to be of King Ramses II under an outdoor marketplace in Cairo, Egypt's antiquities chief said Sunday.

The partially uncovered site is the largest sun temple ever found in the capital's Aim Shams and Matariya districts, where the ancient city of Heliopolis — the center of pharaonic sun worship — was located, Zahi Hawass told The Associated Press.

Among the artifacts was a pink granite statue weighing 4 to 5 tons whose features "resemble those of Ramses II," said Hawass, head of the Supreme Council of Antiquities.

Also found was a 5-foot-high statue of a seated figure with hieroglyphics that include three cartouches with the name of Ramses II, and a 3-ton head of royal statue, the council said in a statement.

The green pavement stones of the temple's floor were also uncovered.

An Egyptian team working in cooperation with the German Archaeological Mission in Egypt discovered the site under the Souq al-Khamis, a popular market in eastern Cairo, Hawass said.

"The market has to be removed" as archeologists excavate the entire site, Hawass said. "Other significant discoveries might be waiting to be excavated now, and compensation will be paid to the shop owners."

"We are planning to make the whole area as a tourists and archaeological site, maybe after two years," he said.

King Ramses II, who ruled Egypt for 66 years from 1270 to 1213 B.C., had erected monuments up and down the Nile with records of his achievements, as well as building temples — including Abu Simbel, erected near what is now Egypt's southern border.

Numerous temples to Egypt's sun gods — particularly the chief god Ra — were built in ancient Heliopolis. But little remains of what was once the ancient Egyptians' most sacred cities, since much of the stone used in the temples was later plundered.

The area is now covered with residential neighborhoods, close to a modern district called Heliopolis, in Egypt's packed capital.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186118,00.html

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=rameses+II/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=129vvbd4p/EXP=1141129589/*-

Almond eyes and thick lips are not white features.

It's very strange that with all the discussion on the net about the Egyptian race there doesn't seem to be any information from any trained experts. Just blacks and whites looking at pix and arguing back and forth.

They don't look black or white to me, but Asian.

http://www.larae.net/photo/england/museum/rameses.jpg

".... But little remains of what was once the ancient Egyptians' most sacred cities, since much of the stone used in the temples was later plundered..."I wonder what those helicopter-inventing queers did with all that pink granite;)

Oh, I found one. From a Skeptical Inquirer article, 1995, by Walter F. Rowe.


Way Down in Egypt Land

A key concept running through the "African-American Baseline Essays" is that Egypt was an African civilization. This means something beyond the obvious fact that Egypt is located in Africa. In the science essay, Adams repeats the claim of Senegalese physicist Cheikh Anta Diop that the ancient Egyptians were descended from central equatorial and northwestern African ethnic groups (Diop 1982). Physical anthropologists, however, do not accept Diop's conclusions. Brace et al. (1993) have presented the results of a comparison of 24 craniofacial measurements made on skeletal material from Egypt, Europe, North Africa, Nubia, Somali, India, Asia, and North America. The measurements chosen were ones that are known to be genetically controlled, but only trivially adaptive. These researchers concluded that the ancient Egyptians are much more closely related to the populations of neolithic Europe, modern Europe, North Africa, and India than to the populations of sub-Saharan Africa. These conclusions are consistent with the research of other physical anthropologists (see Brace et al. [1993] for a complete list). The inclusion of discussions of Egyptian science and mathematics in the "African-American Baseline Essays" therefore is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the biological relationships among the various African subpopulations.

Looking into this, it seems Brace is an anti-racist who uses some esoteric measurement system to put Somalis in the Caucasion race!!!

http://www.larae.net/photo/england/museum/rameses.jpg

With all due respect, Abzug, you got your head up your ass as usual. This pic/bust you posted of Ramses II from the British museum is from the 25th dynasty. Ramses II was from the 19th Dynasty. I know this is confusing for you but for some reason people from the 25th Dynasty tried to rewrite history, as they say. Hey, it happens.

In the future you might want to find out exactly WHEN certain busts were made. That way you can count upon it being an accurate reflection of that particular king's features were. Ya follow?

Lemme post a picture of Ramses the 2nd's mummy. That way you can be sure of what he looked like. Umm, he's not an asian or black or mexican or jew or paki or anything else. He's a red-headed White guy and there is no...I mean no scientist that disputes that. You got it. dummy?

http://www.aegypten-fotos.de/luxor/ramses_8.jpg

With all due respect, Abzug, you got your head up your ass as usual. This pic/bust you posted of Ramses II from the British museum is from the 25th dynasty. Ramses II was from the 19th Dynasty. I know this is confusing for you but for some reason people from the 25th Dynasty tried to rewrite history, as they say. Hey, it happens.

In the future you might want to find out exactly WHEN certain busts were made. That way you can count upon it being an accurate reflection of that particular king's features were. Ya follow?

Lemme post a picture of Ramses the 2nd's mummy. That way you can be sure of what he looked like. Umm, he's not an asian or black or mexican or jew or paki or anything else. He's a red-headed White guy and there is no...I mean no scientist that disputes that. You got it. dummy?

http://www.aegypten-fotos.de/luxor/ramses_8.jpg

He looks like Ghandi and Ghandi was not a European. My pic looks like the same guy as the black and white photo that started this thread. I don't care what you say, they all look like Asians except for that red haired pharoah, he looked white to me.

http://www.rainerbinder.de/pics/promis/Gandhi.jpg

With all due respect, Abzug, you got your head up your ass as usual.

Yup. He's also using pan-African sources on a WN forum. Typical Abzug Behavior.

Yup. He's also using pan-African sources on a WN forum. Typical Abzug Behavior.


Whites are not slant eyes. That is not from a pan-African source, that is STANDARD. I don't need experts to tell me what race somebody is, because I grew up in white America where every child knew these things.

I denounce Loring Brace (whatever) as a crackpot or jokester who was messing up whites and blacks with his racial groupings.

Whites are not slant eyes. That is not from a pan-African source, that is STANDARD. I don't need experts to tell me what race somebody is, because I grew up in white America where every child knew these things.

I denounce Loring Brace (whatever) as a crackpot or jokester who was messing up whites and blacks with his racial groupings.

I agree. I was on a somewhat upscale list (Upstream) a few years a ago, and Brace would occasionally, offer some jew-approved PC semi-science there. So, I would use caution where Brace is the source. On the other hand, there must be a few things he got right if you remove the spin.
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Whites are not slant eyes. That is not from a pan-African source, that is STANDARD. I don't need experts to tell me what race somebody is, because I grew up in white America where every child knew these things.

Pan Afriques use it to bolster BS. Also, those aren't slant eyes they are almond-shaped, which was a standard artistic technique in the Bronze Age that even shows up sometimes in Minoan Crete and Myceneae.

If you get a chance, go to the Egyptian Museum in Berlin. This is where they house the famous bust of Nefertiti and lots of others, many unnamed and unfinished. You will not see this stuff online or in books, except, of course, Nefertiti. It'll cure you of ever thinking these were negroes or asians, trust me.

Guess why you'll never see these highly European looking Egyptians in the National Geographic. Just take a wild guess. Partly maybe because these busts and statues were gathered up by a government that went out of business in 1945. A government that was trying to tell the truth about race and history, the very last government that told the truth about such things, as a matter of fact.

I've seen Nefertiti in National Geographic. I have a 3 foot long shelf of books on ancient Egypt, with plenty of pix of these half jew, half slant-eye folks you are so eager to claim as your relatives!

I've seen Nefertiti in National Geographic. I have a 3 foot long shelf of books on ancient Egypt, with plenty of pix of these half jew, half slant-eye folks you are so eager to claim as your relatives!

Why have 3 feet of books about people you hate? Is Allen's Middle Egyptian Grammar among them? Can you read their words? There's no way to see them as muds once you can.

Good on you for having the books. Now get beyond looking at the pictures and you'll learn something.

Just to keep things straight.

Nefertiti was the great wife of Akhnaton, the goofball pharaoh (1379-1361 BCE) who tried to convert Egypt to monotheism.

Nefertari was the great wife of Ramesses II, pharaoh for about 67 years (1304-1237 BCE).

But, I'm sure every one already knew this. I just watched a PBS on Ramesses. He lived for 96 years. He looks like the picture above, because that's what 96 year old men look like when they die. Leanardo Decaprio will look like that if he makes it to 96.

Enkidu

Why have 3 feet of books about people you hate? Is Allen's Middle Egyptian Grammar among them? Can you read their words? There's no way to see them as muds once you can.

Good on you for having the books. Now get beyond looking at the pictures and you'll learn something.

I never said I hated them, I just said they weren't white. Their words are semitic, aren't they, how is that going to help your argument? And I did learn to read a lot of them one summer, I have all those Budge books with the hieroglyphics and the translation. Some interesting stuff and a lot of rubbish.... I haven't looked at that shelf in a long time, I admit.

As I may have mentioned before, I also have Sigmund Freud's book where he argues that the Jews were a remnant of the cult of Akhenaton under Moses, an Egyption priest, and I thought he made a very good case.

Their words are semitic, aren't they, how is that going to help your argument?
Ancient Egyptian (and its later versions, like Coptic) is a hamitic language, not a semitic language. A differrent language group entirely.

Just to keep things straight.

Nefertiti was the great wife of Akhnaton, the goofball pharaoh (1379-1361 BCE) who tried to convert Egypt to monotheism.

Nefertari was the great wife of Ramesses II, pharaoh for about 67 years (1304-1237 BCE).

http://www.canadianchristianity.com/film/graphics/annebaxter.jpg

Thanks Enkidu!

Nefertari: In Cecil B. DeMille's 1956 version of The Ten Commandments was played by Anne Baxter at her most fuckable.

Curiously these two women were the subject of an interesting debate about fashion on an egyptology forum about 3 years back now, maybe 4. Nefertiti is often seen portrayed wearing the famous gauze dresses that exposed the breasts just like the Minoan women (same era; think the Snake Goddess statue). But when Ramses' wife is depicted about two generations later, she's wearing an outfit that wouldn't be out of place on a nun or a Victorian nurse.

It figures. Nefertiti lived when times were flush and it was beach party on the Nile time. When it was Nefertari's turn to be queen, the Bronze Age was ending, times were grim and the fashions showed it.

I hope everyone also knows that The Ten Commandments is fiction, whether in the Bible, DeMille's movie or Freud's hilarious theories. There would be no Hebrews until centuries after Ramses and Nefertari died. There were no Hebrew slaves in Egypt and no great Plagues on Pharoah's house. All that wonderful baloney was dreamed up centuries later in Babylon, a different age entirely.

Excellent trivia has been coming out of DeMille's movie, though, since 1956. It's where the line "who do you have to blow to get out of this movie" comes from. It also starred Debra Paget at her most fuckable, when she turned Elvis Presley down a few years later he didn't stop hunting for someone like her till he found Priscilla, who's a ringer for Debra.

DeMille was part Jewish himself yet the picture contains the single most "antisemitic" portrayal of a shifty yid ever put on film, including films made by the Third Reich. That's Edward G. Robinson as Dathan, which is so incredible you almost forget about Anne and Debra, but not quite.

PS: I turned it down, Enkidu. I'm in for a few more years, but it was a nice daydream for a few months... I'm sure I'll be kicking myself in the ass about over in a few more.

He looks like Ghandi and Ghandi was not a European. My pic looks like the same guy as the black and white photo that started this thread. I don't care what you say, they all look like Asians except for that red haired pharoah, he looked white to me.


That photo of the mummy depicts that very red-haired Pharoah!

That photo of the mummy depicts that very red-haired Pharoah!

http://www.iiipublishing.com/citilord.html

Ah-so! Him looky Chinee to me!

The picture I saw of "red haired pharoah" was a painting, and there he looked white. Well, whitish, anyway.

http://www.iiipublishing.com/citilord.html

Ah-so! Him looky Chinee to me!

The picture I saw of "red haired pharoah" was a painting, and there he looked white. Well, whitish, anyway.

Oops, I had a good picture of him looking Chinese, but I lost the url.

Itz the same Pharaoh Ramses that the Bible alleges was responsible for letting the Jews escape from Egypt - after the jew had done what it has always done - brought down plagues upon the people and country hosting them.

The Pharaoh in question can still be peeked at in the darkened confines of the Cairo Museum - the Pharaoh ramses is the only Old Testament figure that you can still see in the flesh - so to speak.

When I visited that museum, his highness looked a bit the worse for wear........................
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Regarding the French scientist who claimed the hair was red and he was a Caucasion - maybe, maybe not. All the time I was growing up there were mind-blowing "scientific" claims coming out of Russia- bogus - and nowadays France seems to be the nation of weird science stories.