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J3115
April 7th, 2006, 05:52 PM
Marine Corps Won't Explain Jewish Star on Sabres
By John "Birdman" Bryant - Thanks Stepp


I have tried several times to get an explanation of why the Jewish 6-pointed star, or 'Mogen David' (Star of David) appears on Marine sabres, but spokesmen for the Corps will not respond. The following is one letter which I wrote, and which went unanswered:

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Sent to: PAM@HQMC.USMC.MIL 1/18/06

To whom it may concern:

I have been directed to your office for answering the question below, which was originally submitted to the Commandnat's office. I and my readers would appreciate a substantive response from a properly credentialed officer.

QUESTION:

>>The Marine sabre is decorated at its hilt with a six-pointed star -- aka,
>>the Mogen David, or Star of David, the symbol of the Jewish people -- and
>I
>>would like to know why this is so. Is this some kind of historical
>>accident, or does it represent a not-so-subtle indicia of the influence of
>>Jews over the Marine Corps, as those Krazy Konspiracy Theorists would say?
>>Beyond this, in view of the fact that the Star of David is so heavily
>>associated with Jews, would it not be in the interest of good public
>>relations for the Marines not to have it appear on Marine sabres?
>>
>>I am webmaster of a popular website which has many Krazy Konspiracy
>>Theorists as readers, and those readers will undoubtedly hang on your
>every
>>word, should you care to respond. And should you NOT care to respond, my
>>readers will undoubtedly conclude that you have Something To Hide, which
>is
>>what my Marine sources tell me you are doing on this issue.
>>
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GasMask
April 7th, 2006, 05:55 PM
The six sided star is the symbol of Satan.

Jews are Satan's kids.

antiZOG
April 7th, 2006, 07:57 PM
I had never noticed before, but my Marine Corps officer's sword, does indeed have a six-pointed star, partially hidden from direct view. It's right near the hilt.
Inside the star is the word "proved", along with a tiny, 5-pointed star.
Perhaps this is some sort of proof-mark?
My sword is labeled "Hilborn-Hamburger , New Jersey". I believe that other companies also sold Marine Corps swords. I purchased mine back in the 80's,
along with my dress uniforms.
I think the company "Hilborn-Hamburger" would be the best place to start, in order to get a possible explanation of why that six-sided star is on the sword.

Perceval
April 7th, 2006, 09:05 PM
Me and a friend visited our district's black congresswoman's office as part of the protest against amnesty for illegals and on the wall in the entryway to the office was mounted a broadsword with a huge blue and white star of david centered on the pommel (the round part at the extreme end of the sword).

Is this standard equipment for the offices of congressmen/women or is this just a nonwhite thing, I don't know?

Moose
April 7th, 2006, 10:53 PM
What is the significance of the star on the upper blade of the officer's and noncommissoned officer's swords?


According to historian Ken Smith-Christmas, a curator at the Marine Corps Air-Ground Museum, Quantico,Va., the six-pointed star on the swords was originally a guild proof called the "Star of Damascus," an Eastern mark of distinction found on swords of high-quality workmanship. Over the years, the marking disappeared on blades. Museum correspondence with sword makers such as Wilkinson and N. S. Meyers indicates manufacturers, primarily British, have reintroduced that marking on swords.

SouthernCracker
April 8th, 2006, 12:58 AM
is this on sabers that are issued to or given to marines in service, or is this something optional they can buy ?

ragnar
April 8th, 2006, 01:37 AM
is that a small representation of the world in the center of the star? :eek:

MOMUS
April 8th, 2006, 01:52 AM
No offense intended but I think J3115's phraseology cued them that he isn't important/legitimate enough to merit a response from them.

I am webmaster of a popular website which has many Krazy Konspiracy
>>Theorists as readers, and those readers will undoubtedly hang on your
>every
>>word, should you care to respond. And should you NOT care to respond, my
>>readers will undoubtedly conclude that you have Something To Hide....

But what to make of it?:confused: I find it curious you couldn't get a straight answer from the USMC itself.

If the request for info came from Billy Graham or some powerful Christian Council or such, or especially from some powerful jews....

It can certainly be argued that the symbol no more belongs on that sword than a crescent and star, or a cross or a swastika.

It can also be said that the mogen david and the latter two symbols are geometric archetypes that human artisans are naturally drawn to. Those characters were doodled by all of us as children. Thus there may be no jewish connotation to it at all.

Sunwheel
April 8th, 2006, 03:08 AM
The six sided star is the symbol of Satan.


Are you going to explain why you think this?

Herman van Houten
April 8th, 2006, 05:23 AM
Jews are the Sons of Satan. The number of Satan is 666.

It can certainly be argued that the symbol no more belongs on that sword than a crescent and star, or a cross or a swastika. And it is certain as well that zionist symbols like these show to the world that the Marines are a tool of the zionists, thereby endangering the lives of the Marines and of Americans. Swastikas that formed a part of US army signs were removed about 1940, stars of David weren't.

Unthinkable
April 8th, 2006, 10:48 AM
I wouldn't carry it.

MOMUS
April 8th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Yes the six-pointed star and the swastika are ancient symbols but only one of them is anathemized and outlawed.

Don't you think there might be complaints from "certain people" if the Marine Corps swords had swastikas etched into them? Or crosses? Or crescent/star?



Here is what I said earlier:

It can certainly be argued that the symbol no more belongs on that sword than a crescent and star, or a cross or a swastika.

It can also be said that the mogen david and the latter two symbols are geometric archetypes that human artisans are naturally drawn to. Those characters were doodled by all of us as children. Thus there may be no jewish connotation to it at all.


The Star of David is not just a Jewish symbol. It even predates Judaism. Just like a Swastika does not always mean the NSDAP.

Herman van Houten
April 9th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Even if you love kikery and all of its symbols, it is obvious that this star of David on their sabres endangers the lives of the Marines. ZOG doesn't care. They figure out it's good for jews.

J.P. Slovjanski
April 9th, 2006, 09:19 AM
Jews are the Sons of Satan. The number of Satan is 666.

And it is certain as well that zionist symbols like these show to the world that the Marines are a tool of the zionists, thereby endangering the lives of the Marines and of Americans. Swastikas that formed a part of US army signs were removed about 1940, stars of David weren't.


Hey dumb, retarded, drooling fuck- the six-point star is not originally Jewish, it was appropriated by them. Maybe you also think that Ulster was created by the Jews because they have a six point star as well. It also appeared as a British naval rank as well.

Honestly you ought to be taken outside and shot in the head for your retardation.

Herman van Houten
April 9th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Even if you love kikery and all of its symbols, Slowjewski, it is obvious that this star of David on their sabres endangers the lives of the Marines. Slowjewski and ZOG don't care. They figure out it's good for jews.

Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 9th, 2006, 10:11 AM
Are you going to explain why you think this?He's obviously got the Mogen David star mixed-up with the pentagram. But then again, I've noticed Gas Mask has a tendency to get quite a few things mixed-up around here -- maybe as a result of his knocking back a pint or two of MD 20/20 before he reads the posts? :p

J.P. Slovjanski
April 9th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Even if you love kikery and all of its symbols, Slowjewski, it is obvious that this star of David on their sabres endangers the lives of the Marines. Slowjewski and ZOG don't care. They figure out it's good for jews.

Incredible. Just incredible. The idea that in your head the above sentence may make any sense it all just floors me. And you jackoffs wonder why I say you are a bunch of fantasizers and an embarassment to our entire race.

The United States Marines, which have been attacked in numerous wars in history, are now MORE endangered because YOU just realized that there is a six-point star(much like the start of ULSTER), on sabres that they DON'T EVEN CARRY INTO COMBAT AND YOU HAVE TO BE AN NCO AND HAVE YOUR DRESS BLUES JUST TO CARRY ONE EVER!

Read that again moron. Do it. You need to read everything at least five times before EVER replying with something that is not a total non-sequitur. No forget it. Go to the cabinet under your sink, find the bottle that says DRAIN CLEANER, and drink up. That is the ONLY way that you will ever do our race any good whatsoever. Every SECOND that you continue to exist on this material plane, another white girl hooks up with a negro. YOU are LITERALLY causing that to happen with your monumental stupidity. YOU are the reason Jews control the media. You're sheer mental illness is what brought down the twin towers.

Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 10th, 2006, 06:41 PM
And you jackoffs wonder why I say you are a bunch of fantasizers and an embarassment to our entire race.

Just who, exactly, are you referring to?

J.P. Slovjanski
April 10th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Just who, exactly, are you referring to?


Any fucktard like 999 that believes he is "fighting the Jew" online.

J.P. Slovjanski
April 11th, 2006, 02:32 AM
That's really rude and nonsensical J.P.

Awwwwww it's "rude". You know what is also "rude" and "nonsensical", an anonymous little fucktard who likes to accuse everyone who disagrees with his idiotic theories "Jews", even though he/she/it/ has not once in their life had ANY physical contact or interaction with someone actually politically involved. In other words, it is perfectly comfortable living in a fantasy world where they imagine that they are somehow "fighting Jews" from the comfort of their living room. Then this fucktard has the nerve to come in here and insist that now the USMC is now somehow in MORE danger because they happen to have a six-point star on a SABRE THEY WEAR ONLY WITH DRESS UNIFORMS!

Yes, invading Muslim countries isn't enough to put the Marines in danger; as soon as those Muslims find out about the star that insurgency is going to skyrocket! Gee I wonder if the ULSTER DEFENSE REGIMENT is now in greater danger too, along with all the Protestants in Ulster!

Oh wait a minute now..999 is one of the fucktards who believes that it is the JEWS who are actually literally killing many of our soldiers in Iraq right now...wait, wouldn't the Jew star make them friends? Damn, it's really difficult to comprehend the fantasy logic of a retard isn't it?

Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 11th, 2006, 12:26 PM
Any fucktard like 999 that believes he is "fighting the Jew" online.Fair enough. I really don't know what 999 thinks he(?) is "fighting online", but I do know he's got this ridiculous habit of yelling "jew! jew! jew!" at damn near anything that moves. Seems as though whenever someone posts anything even remotely critical of a Gentile, no matter how trivial, there's Agent 99(9) sniffing out the jew's hand in the matter. Very annoying and tiresome it is.

Momus brings up a good point however. As much as this little six-pointed star on the Corps' sabre may go unnoticed by all but the Marines themselves, it's a foregone conclusion that jewry would pitch an absolute shitfit if it were a cross or crescent star that was emblazoned below the hilt. Maybe not publicly, but I'd bet shekels to bagels they'd do their utmost from behind the scenes, as is their wont, to have it removed.

Oh, and just one more thing: What the hell is a "fucktard"? :confused:

J.P. Slovjanski
April 11th, 2006, 01:12 PM
A fucktard is short for "fucking retard".

ouphe
April 11th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Interesting. I did some research and found this (http://web.archive.org/web/20010617220703/http://www.jewishmarines.com/trivia/) little tidbit:

During the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln commissioned a Jewish man named Zendt to design the USMC Sword. Because Zendt was Jewish, he included a Star of David (Magen David) on the Sword. Today, the Star of David still appears on the Marine Corps NCO (Non-Commissioned Officer) Sword, just below the hilt.
Note: this info comes from the now-defunct site jewishmarines.com that also claims, among other things, "Though not widely known, Jews have been a major part of the Marines since the Corps' inception."

Also, Slovjanski is right for saying the sword is never worn on the battlefield. It goes with the dress uniform and is only used for formal or ceremonial purposes.

My Mom still has most of my Dad's military gear (mid-to-late 60s Vietnam-era stuff). Next time I visit her I'll have to take a look at his sword (if it's even there).

From that same link I also learned, incidentally, that Gene Hackman is a jew.

ouphe
April 11th, 2006, 03:33 PM
Momus brings up a good point however. As much as this little six-pointed star on the Corps' sabre may go unnoticed by all but the Marines themselves, it's a foregone conclusion that jewry would pitch an absolute shitfit if it were a cross or crescent star that was emblazoned below the hilt. Maybe not publicly, but I'd bet shekels to bagels they'd do their utmost from behind the scenes, as is their wont, to have it removed.Yep. And the populace would remain clueless.

I remember last Christmas, scanning through the channels and stopping on The Bill O'Reilly Show. He was talking with some Florida Christian pastor about the removal of Christmas symbols. O'Reilly says, "They removed the cross but the menorah was allowed to remain. I just can't figure out who is behind this." The pastor responds, "Neither can I, Bill. Neither can I."

I kid you not, that was an actual (albeit paraphrased) exchange on national television between a Harvard-educated talk-show host and a man who is supposed to be educated on spiritual matters.

Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 11th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Yep. And the populace would remain clueless.

I remember last Christmas, scanning through the channels and stopping on The Bill O'Reilly Show. He was talking with some Florida Christian pastor about the removal of Christmas symbols. O'Reilly says, "They removed the cross but the menorah was allowed to remain. I just can't figure out who is behind this." The pastor responds, "Neither can I, Bill. Neither can I."

I kid you not, that was an actual (albeit paraphrased) exchange on national television between a Harvard-educated talk-show host and a man who is supposed to be educated on spiritual matters.Can't say I'm surprised in the least. It's one of the primary reasons I killed my televtz in Oct. '04: ball-less bastards such as these, who know better, refusing to name the jew, even with the obvious staring them straight in the face. Of course, they've got a perfectly logical explanation/excuse for this cowardice -- their precious careers are at stake, the survival/well-being of their race be damned.

Just a couple weeks ago, someone started a thread in "This Just In" where a local govt employee somewhere in the Mid-west had the "insensitivity" to place a plastic Easter bunny on display in a public admin bldg. of some sort. That's it -- just the harmless little bunny by itself. No "Happy Easter", no crosses, or anything else with religious connotations that might somehow "offend" those of another faith (read, jews). After complaints were received, which of course remained "anonymous" :rolleyes: , the superiors of this racist/anti-semitic hater of a bitch had her remove the bad, bad, bunny.

Not only that, but at the end of the article brief mention was made of another rabid anti-semite who had the sheer chutzpah to decorate his/her office during X-mas season with -- ready for this? -- poinsettias! :eek: No little Santas on display, no nativity scene, no "Merry Christmas" signs -- just a plain ordinary house plant. Seems as though displaying poinsettias, these plants being "associated" with X-mas, was enough to warrant a search & destroy mission being deployed to annihilate the offensive flowers by our ever-vigilant jew overlords.